Accelerationism

Hopefully Zizek is right about Trump.

Who am I kidding? He isn't Accelerationism doesn't work.

Who /accelero-posadist/ here?

Accelerationist flag when?

A few resources.

#ACCELERATE MANIFESTO for an Accelerationist Politics by by Alex Williams and Nick Srnicek:
criticallegalthinking.com/2013/05/14/accelerate-manifesto-for-an-accelerationist-politics/

#Celerity: A Critique of the Manifesto for an Accelerationist Politics by McKenzie Wark:
speculativeheresy.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/wark-mckenzie-celerity.pdf

Nick Land's post on Accelerationist resources:
ufblog.net/acceleration/

Monoskop page:
monoskop.org/Accelerationism

VICE (fuck them but still) interview with Steven Shaviro:
vice.com/en_au/article/is-consuming-like-crazy-the-best-way-to-end-capitalism-050

When they add the Posadist flag

All of the former revolutions in history, socialist or not, were preceded by a harsh socioeconomic climate and an agitated populate. Accelerationism just makes sense to me tbh.

ebook

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No, I'm not a nihilist.

shaviro.com/Blog/?p=1174

This is also a good read

noice

from link

its possible to be a nihilist without being an idiot. n1x doesnt represent even a miniscule fraction of nihilists

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Yes I'm an accelerationist. No, it doesn't just mean making shit worse to provoke a revolution. That's stupid and it doesn't work.

Actual accelerationism has nothing to do with provoking a revolution and everything to do with changing the material conditions underpinning capitalism such that capitalism can no longer exist. In the current era that means automation. Amazon and Google are better accelerationists than any of us here.

Google and Amazon are giant producers of proprietary software.

As much as I despise proprietary software, a lot of the underlying computer science theory ends up getting out even if the implementations are kept secret. They can't patent the maths behind particular neural network designs.

If your goal is revolution alone, successful or otherwise then sure, acceleration seems like the best option.
The thing is, no revolution has succeeded in the ways we'd have liked them to.

OP here. While I agree with this statement, are you more for getting to the singularity faster or getting to the socialism faster?

I vacillate between them myself. Less suffering if we were to go toward socialism first, but if we go toward the singularity first the more stable the change will be.

Thoughts?

Automation will certainly make everything worse. I don't think you have thought this all the way through.

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Then why have them at all then?

id argue that the emergence of the internet has given all of us a medium through which we can raise class consciousness, since it allowed us to free ourselves from state media

youtube.com/watch?v=gi6I0K2PJrw

Nice intro talk to Accelerationism

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Trips of truth.

I'm somehow hypnotised by the girl in those pics.

In a sense; I don't believe in actively making the prevailing system worse, but I do believe that the system worsening is inevitable and thus does not require leftists to sabotage it. However, I do think it is paramount that leftists properly capitalize off of a system in decay, as a decaying political and economic system is not sufficient by itself to replace it with an alternative – the elite will cultivate a Metropolis-esque state if they are not met with sufficient opposition.

Pretty ironic that a black flag is asking when something has ever worked.

cybergoth girls are, same with candy raver girls. It's got to be all the bright colors, pics related.

Why not make this worsening faster?

I don't think we're exactly able to predict how the capitalist market will adjust to change, nor can we conceptualize how long these changes will persist before a lefitst alternative is made viable. We might as well stand in solidarity with those who can benefit by reform, while accepting that reform that alleviates pressure from some is not enough to stop the dialectic in motion.

If our engagement with modern politics is simply "let's make shit worse," it's going to be hard to sell our ideology to the workers we allegedly wish to help.

This is a mis-characterization of what Accelerationists believe. You need to read more about the movement, while not completely definitive, The Accelerate Manifesto is a short and good to read treatise about it. You can find it here

This video posted is also a good walk though, though much more informal. That is here

n-no?

No. Too risky.

muh symbolism

I think it's riskier to allow time for the populace to normalize any further their wage slavery. Put the absurdity in the open before people have a chance to think that we've always been at war with Eastasia. Make them reactionary to the excesses and injustices, but then have a better way available.

sorry video is here

Won't automation just mean that the capitalists no longer need the workers for anything and can abandon them all to starve to death?

globallearning-cuba.com/blog-umlthe-view-from-the-southuml/marx-on-automated-industry

globallearning-cuba.com/blog-umlthe-view-from-the-southuml/marx-and-automated-industry-revisited

Yes, that's why I've been pushing AnCap thought. It's the fastest.

Can anyone here name any revolutions as a result of accelerationism?

Well as it's a new direction, not that I know of. But my knowledge of revolutionary history is a bit lacking.

Although Marx seems to have the thread of it in his thought.

But, in general, the protective system of
our day is conservative, while the free trade
system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism
of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the
extreme point. In a word, the free trade
system hastens the social revolution. It is in
this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen,
that I vote in favor of free trade.

Yeah, the following revolutions:

And here we have the results of accelerationism in Germany.

Way to go, chucklefucks!

It was actually going to work eventually. Why do you think the Americans got involved? They wanted to make sure than Germany was placed back into the hands of global capital.

Nice straw man you have there. I would hate for something to happen with it.

From Accelerate Manifesto:

I am.

My take on is that any collapse that occurs due to acceleration won't cause revolution unless it is accompanied by a New Story to enact.
The old story will just reframe itself unless something more desirable is know by the masses. eg. 2008.

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is itme even real or are we fools for thinking that sequencial order is for cucks?

Can you re-translate that using a different translation service?

Germany was in the hands of capital. WW2 was just an imperialist struggle caused by the growing communist movement and the failure of capitalism

je vrijeme čak i stvarno su mi budale su razmišljanja sequencial red je za cucks?

The point is that these crises do allow the "old story" to reframe but force some to adopt a "new story" due to no longer accepting the narrative (by choice or not). Accelerationism wants to make the crises so absurd that it's more jarring for more people allowing for more "radical" thought.

The more absurd the crisis (and resultant reframing), the harder it is to reframe in a way that people can accept.

There already is a new story available, Bernie's campaign and the internet are allowing people to see socialism it for what it is, the new story.

Note: I'm not saying Bernie was the best alternative (I voted for him through gritted teeth), but it is the best thing to happen to leftist movements in a while. I'm also not saying the left is at a critical enough mass yet, but accelerationists believe that capitalism is going to kill itself. And the way you educate people up is through showing them how fucked up the current system is.

Rip the bandaid off as fast as possible.

lol well played.

But actually, can you rephrase.retype what you said here

just shitpostin'

youtube.com/watch?v=3klabW-pptk

Comrade Wolff's thoughts on Trump. Shit's goin' down yo.