What do you think of Bernie Sanders?

A genuine demsoc, not a neoliberal sellout like many alleged "socialists".
Still doesn't go far enough.

I do think the reaction to his campaign shows the limits of reformism, but I still voted for him and I'd do it again.

SUCC DEM

This is your brain on neoliberalism, folks.

Allow me to correct your post:

good luck waiting for your socialist revolution in the US of all places

He's ok. But like others have said, here in Europoorland he'd be pretty centrist.

My post espoused First Worldist reformist social democracy you deluded infant.

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What the fuck is kasich doing in that pic?

It looks as though he is euphorically devouring baklava.

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He's one of the parliamentary "socialists" described by Sorel.

Sorel was proven right when he betrayed the proletariat to support Hillary Clinton.

A 1%-er who hearts the Nordics.

Fuck off socdem.

Wow it's almost like Holla Forums's strategy is to push the left further "left", outside the realms of physical possibility / normie acceptability.

Social democracy is not leftist.
At least you're honest. Socialism is not going to happen in our lifetime in the first world.

And it won't happen ever if neoliberalism wins. Keep dreaming you nostalgic fruitcake. I'm here to correct the course.

Fucking cancer.

Thanks for the insight, Karl.

kek

reddit

Define "status quo", Heraclitus.

But reddit's your home, tankie. I'm actually a good poster here, you're a white noise punchline.

If you know anything about Marxism then why do you support reformism?

Fuck off

Because I know about Marxism and its offshoots, such as Orthodox Autism, Autist-Autism, and Autist-Autist-Autism. I read outside of what has been suggested to me by memes. Marx is essential, but so are about 100 other thinkers.

Also, I'm actually proletarian, so you know, that helps. Now. Fuck off back to Holla Forums

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The only workers you want to "help" are white ones.

Ethetical exploitation memes belong on reddit.

You mean the imperialism loving cunt? Reformism doesn't work. Reformism hasn't worked. Reformism will never work.

GREAT MEME FRIEND XD YOU SURE ARE DOING A GOOD JOB AT DEFENDING YOUR POSITION.

I don't feel the need to defend my position to the likes of a "tankie", deal with it, or stop being a worthless reject. Your choice.

Bernstein was a worthless, useless stooge of imperialism who took an opportunistic line during the period of the imperialist war rather then adopting the revolutionary anti-imperialist stance of the Zimmerwald left.

Go fuck yourself. Talking utter shit.

Revlefters are barely Turing passable.

Okay

Social democracy has improved the lives of millions.

Oh and the few non-whites who live in the exploitative countries.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

You can only think and talk in memes. The only smart ones out of you are either Holla Forums psyops or wonderful autistes like Stalintrip. How do you live with the embarrassment?

"I don't have an argument so here have some laughing"

Not even a reformist, but fuck off Jason.

Cognitive dissonance comes naturally to liberals though, I suppose.

Bernie Sanders deserves the respect of anyone who would call themselves a socialist.

He is the only hope America has.

Are you stupid?

Does porkies crums taste better with or without his "cheese"?

You're a living joke.

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While I barely agree with this, I'd bet the board is being raided by reddit. Possibly from r/sandersforpresident (maybe those who overlap with r/socialism) due to the top post on sandersforpresident.

Hide tankie posts. Ignore tankie posts. Do not respond to tankie posts.

Hey, at least Sanders has read Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky unlike most of Holla Forums

Don't you fucking start with me scum.

Reminder that you thought proletarians didn't own computers or have the internet in 2017. kys class enemy

Uphold Bernie Sanders Thought

Normally I'd agree but it's good target practice now and then.

What the fuck does that even mean?

Target practice is for ranges not imageboards.

Get fucked you filthy leftist rat.

kek I was at the frontlines of the meme wars for Trump. I'm enjoying watching him betray you and dismantle US hegemony right now actually.

checked, all fields, and mods delete this plz

He said months before the primaries that he'd endorse shillary if he lost. Plus she even took more than half of his campaign promises to get his wing of the party to vote for her. I wish Hillary had won so Sanders would've hold her feet to the fire in the Senate.

We'll see that when he's bombing the shit out of Iran. US hegemony can never be destroyed.

China? HAHAHA have you heard of a blockade? No I'm sure China will be a navy leader by 2030 kekekek.

Russia? Yeah you weren't even a challenge during the cold war days and it's not as if you're going to take any land from nato.

Russia i siding with us now anyway. They don't like fags like you.

& & here.

Protip: I understand you like Bernie, and think that it'd be nice for Bernie to get a little internet-lefty cred if people here got behind him, but the more you shill him on this board the more he'll be hated.

There is so much wrong with this post, I don't even know where to begin.

You're the same as a sjw

Shit, that should be

(You) & (You) & (You) here.

We'll see. Shadilay, brother. :^)

What's with all the Bernie bashing?

He didn't run to win, he ran to get his policies out and spread leftist ideals. He made such a country like the US embrace the word Socialist.

He's another run of the mill Capitalist who can speak well to the crowds.

The US is so far from this, you have no idea.

axctually the US is so far from this, I'd bet we are closer to once again having McCarthyism then we are to Bernie (as much as I'm loathe to back him) being pres.

Wew lad I only made three posts in this thread, and the last two were pretty obviously jokes

pic related

People voted Trump because Sanders wasn't the nominee and Shillary was recognized as too cozy with Wall Street.

Watch how Sanders gets a group of trump voters to give him a standing ovation about the economy.

youtu.be/dvNkdakBexU

Once trump fucks over the economy and causes the next recession, then we'll be seeing a huge surge in the movement.

I've already said that I only half-heartedly back Sanders, and that comes with a bad taste in my mouth.

My point still stands though, we are closer to McCarthyism then President Sanders. If you take out the red scare bit one could argue that the US is already there.

Liberal and spineless social democrat
Have plenty of those in europe
But at least left leaning

If bernie were like 10 years younger he would probably be the next up to control the party.
He got railroaded hard by the establishment and the DNC, the neoliberals are still trying to hold onto power even though they lost to trump.
I think the best thing bernie can try to do now is to build a movement and try to create young proteges, and clean up the DNC of neolibs.

Clintonism is a massive failure, she lost to obama and trump, anyone arguing staying the course is an idiot or corporate cock sucker

I will say, both bernie and clinton got outclassed by an orange clown who just walked in said " make america great again, mexicans are rapists, build a wall" then gave everyone free hats.

I dont know if bernie would have won, but he was more in tune with the populist rage going on through out the world right now.
And the corporate media trashed him when he would go to the rust belt and Appalachia.
I dont know if the bern man would have won but he has a way better chance than Hillary

#notmycomrade

New Deal socdem bullshit isn't leftism, it's capitalism in one of its most brutal forms.

Under the meme that "socialism=government doing stuff" while never even hinting at the means of production. Now we have great porky-approved "socialists" like Elizabeth Warren, because that's what he did to the concept. He didn't popularize the the concept, he's a misdirection agent he popularized a bastardized capitalist ideology called "socialism." That's all he's ever been good for, whether it was redirection of anti-establishment sentiments right into support for Clinton, or redirection of socialist terminology and ideals right into capitalism.

Communist logic

Wer hat uns verraten? Sozialdemokraten!

He is Senator Slick Entryist. I still wish he had the balls to walk away from the dems at the convention, but seeing him be the only one doing shit after trump won I forgive him.

so what do you call yourself nowadays if youre not interested in a violent revolution as a means to abolish capitalism, but want to make use of democratic processes such as worker strikes and forming politcal parties if not a social democrat?

A social democrat.

I agreed a lot with what he said. However I think this election is a wake-up call for the dnc.
Hopefully next time they'll take a different approach, or perhaps there will be more than two parties.

Either way this town hall meeting with Sanders is a good watch:

youtube.com/watch?v=ggUI7ERz1dU

no he wouldn't, his open rhetoric against banks and rich people would make European """"""""""""""""""""socialists"""""""""""""""""""""""""" cry.

He was the best choice for the American elections but he isn't a socialist and he's not my comrade.

You would think it was, but all the establishment dems have just borrowed their heads into the sand and started spouting McCarthyist conspiracy theories and engaging in literally no self criticism. They are now trying to destroy Keith Ellison using the same smear campaigns used against Corbyn (antisemitism, unelectable etc) and put in charge Perez, one of the architects of the Trans Pacific Partnership.

Sadly hope of this is slipping by the day. These establishment pieces of shit even if they lose this month, will sabotage the party on purpose to make sure the New Dems are back in power by 2020. It's going to be a repeat of Corbyn and Varoufakis.

It is and shows how easily Socialist messaging can cut through to reactionaries when simply explained it to them in ways it would effect their lives. Too bad the Establishment have basically labeled Sanders and Ellison as public enemy number 2 after Putin.

Liar.

Tankies are the most closest to nazis when it comes to social policies though

You guys really need to kill yourself, this place is just as insufferable as Holla Forums

Thanks for the hot dialectic, don't let the door hit your megacephalic cranium on the way back out

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Calling Sanders a Socdem isn't giving him enough credit tbh
If you read anything he said before he ran for president it becomes pretty obvious this guy was trying to be a slick entryist

Doesn't remind you of a bunch of "socialists",
Tsiparis, Gysi, Corbyn? No? You guys never learn.

A man can dream :,)

Also:

I refuted naive Marxism in your absence. Sorry you didn't get the memo over on reddit.

This is beyond shitposting, the inconsistency reaches a new quality. You could call it diarrhea.

Left-populists are almost as bad as right-populists with their appropriation of leftism and then making the left lose credibility with their turncoat faggotry inherent to their populism. All they're good for is bitching in opposition and even then they're just sad.

I'd like to say I missed you Koba, but I'd be lying of course. Oh, I refuted absolute idealism, and AW proved Marx didn't even turn Hegel on his head, so that's basically that. Might as well commit your library then to the flames, as the ashes may make good fertilizer, when we socdems force you petit-bourgeois scum out of your comfy tenures and make you tend to the eco-feminist garden we've replaced your squalid little hovel with.

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Stay mad, Marxbots.

'80s Bernie was pretty good. 2017 Bernie is a dead hollowed out shell.

By protocol, replying to shitposts should be done with the text "sage" on the Email field, unless otherwise stated.

There are non-shitposts on leftypol?

You got me there, I almost always sage everytime I post because of the shit tier quality of nearly all posts on this board. Browsing this board should be done with heavy sanitary equipment, unless you're willing to acquire ugly diseases from all the diverse shit.

Underrated by socialists, overrated by normies

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