Are Maoists just… dumb?

Are Maoists just… dumb?

It might be because they're obsessed with idpol, but every single interaction I've had with a Maoist online (here or - god forbid - on /r/socialism) has featured them just… not getting it. I swear there's something about the ideology that just engenders confusion disguised as intellectualism.

Anybody had a similar experience?

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Mao was a colossal moron, so it makes sense that would rub off on them. We're talking about a guy who initiated a genocide of sparrows which resulted in insects eating all the crops.

But that's literally all of them.

Seriously man.

was his writing basically an attempt at mobilizing peasants, tribal groups, and victims of imperialism in an anti-capitalist way without specifically focusing on a critique of capitalism?

No they are just third world peasants and anti-imperialist (but not anti-capitalist) bourgeoisie.

What kind of gommunist are you :DD

No. He wrote about mobilizing against capitalism in industrial societies and the different tactics necessary to mobilize against capitalism in colonial and semi-feudal societies.

Why is knowledge of Maoism so weak here? I'm guessing it's because edgy reddit larpers have latched onto him.

I'm not disputing that Maoists can kill people. They're clearly pretty good at that. They just aren't so hot in the brains department.

m8 you just said maoists were limited to edgy teens. You're clearly not in a position to critique Maoist theory.

Have you ever spoken to a Naxalite?

I honestly believe that Maoism is a revisionist ideology tbqh:
marxists.org/reference/archive/hoxha/works/imp_rev/toc.htm
enverhoxha.ru/Archive_of_books/English/enver_hoxha_reflections_on_china_volume_II_eng.pdf
revolutionarydemocracy.org/archive/chinecon.htm

Well, of course! It's something other than Trotskyism.

Obnoxious Anti-Maoist reactionaries are nearly as awful as rich Maoist American kids.

t. """leftcom"""

You do realize they have also put out Marxist theory, yes?

Read up on Anuradha Ghandy. There's also Yogendra Dhakal Hisila Yami if you're interested in the Nepalese Maoists.

*Yogendra Dhakal and Hisila Yami

t. """trot"""

Oh great, time to get out my pickaxe.

How am I not a Trot for not liking Maoism, m8? It's pretty much the opposite of my ideology within the Leninist sphere.

pls no bully

Pls no PermRev

nothing can stop the permanent revolution

I'll accept that when it actually starts. Any day now…

all of the bully

it's already happening

it's been happening since 1917

I'll be a spectre myself by the time it gets anything done. Rojava (even as a symbol) won't be enough to pose an actual threat to Global Capitalism.

The fried chicken revolution?

we're in your states

we're in your politics

we're in your daughters

I think there are actually pretty decent writings from Mao and I honestly believe Mao was a decent leader until around 1956.

The problem is Mao over time became high on his own success and completely delusional.

First major disaster was the Hundred Flowers Campaign. It is this campaign where any Maoist supporter has to admit Mao was full of shit and was just a Machiavellian fuck who only gave a shit about himself over his Socialist views.

Then you have the famine coming in from shitty as fuck moronic policies from 1957 onwards, as Mao got high on his own success from the cooperatization and industrialization of farming. The lead up and the GLF are perfect case studies of people who don't understand anything just winging it as they go. The GLF was based entirely around folk nonsense and no science or risk analysis whatsoever.

Sino-Soviet split is probably one of the biggest events of the 20th century, Mao high on his own hubris basically fucks off the USSR and all it's advisors, scientists, engineers. This is probably the single event that most doomed the 20th century Socialist experiment from a geopolitical standpoint. Imagine if the USSR and China had stayed close allies. They would probably be the strongest states in the world today.

This leads up to the Cultural Revolution. Now in fact, I'm actually sympathetic to the Cultural Revolution. But Mao let it descend into massive mob violence, supressed any culture he didn't like and didn't provide any real leadership. This led the retarded shit like "MAGICAL MANGOS!" and Red Guards slaughtering eachother by the tens of thousands and children beating to death their own parents.
The Cultural Revolution I think is the perfect example of why you don't try attempt Socialism in dirt backwards near-feudal countries with barely functioning education systems and a population made up of uneducated peasants. The CR was just mass mob violence.

Maos writings are surprisingly decent. But as the saying goes "Mao was the worst Maoist".

How many layers of dialectic is this?

Why? The leadership of the USSR was shit awful and seemed to regard stagnation as the highest virtue.

It depends. Maoism, like Trotskyism, for a significant period of time (particularly following the Sino-Soviet beef of the late 60's) was basically a codeword in the West for "Leninist revolutionaries who reject the Soviet Union and Stalin". So there are a few Maoist individuals who had their intellectual formation in that 60s-70s period who are pretty decent. Mao himself wasn't a bad theorist.

But the Maoist organizations who survived, at least in the West (I know nothing about those Indian Maoists or whatever) are literal cults. Bob Avakian is everyone's go-to example but there are creepy groups like that everywhere.

In my country they were known for a while due to their "critical support" for anti-imperialist Al-Qaida. They have no purpose other than to embarrass the Left.

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