Highlights - 5 new acts - Removal of cruel and merciless difficulty - KILL THE GODDAMNED GODS
Current League Breach.
Ending on 3rd March. Nothing much to say here apart from it's ending
Upcoming League Legacy.
Starting 3rd March. League gimmick: every goddamned league ever you can do again. Also legacy items available. Details here: pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1834597
I hadn't played this game since before the Dominus fight was put into the game. I'm in the mines now, about to fight Koam soon. I'm kinda just picking up things in the passive tree that seem useful, so how fucked am I gonna be in cruel and merciless?
Grayson Walker
Do you have a learning disability
Lucas Bailey
Well it's not just evasion and armour being shit, ci is way too strong, evasion can't evade spells and armour can't mitigate non-physical stuff, but CI can tank it all. a few things that can kill you late can outright ignore block and dodge too, like bearers and volatile. Actually I'm not too sure about bearers.
Jordan Gutierrez
You'll still die if you stand in the middle of a bearer pack and wait for them to explode. Otherwise yes you can tank a few.
Brandon Sanchez
This pic seems highly inaccurate Shouldn't the ex be 60~ times bigger?
Jason Hall
that picture's shitty
Zachary Gutierrez
So how about this fix for CI
The idea would be to kind of even the playing field for ES so that ES isn't OP by being able to tank huge amounts of ele damage. Although at that point, you might as well just do across the board nerfs to ES values.
Jackson Hill
wow way to go you managed to ruin CI
Dylan Rivera
Thinking about Flicker Strike ranger. Accidentally used it on an off build and liked how it felt with splash. I actually own an Oro's Sacrifice, apparently I that?
I have Snakebite gloves too, but I see oro's deals no base physical damage; does that mean the poison it adds is based on the phys/fire portion of the attack? Should I just go +elem% and crit instead? Is it better to get crit chance or damage? What about attack speed?
Aaron Watson
I'm about 99% sure that you won't do any poison damage with Oro's unless you can convert the fire to chaos damage somehow.
Landon Gutierrez
That's what I thought. I wasn't sure but wanted to check just because I'm basically making a Frenzy build
Ayden Parker
If you decide not to go with Oro's, don't go with a phys 2h, go DW instead. But Oro's is fine since it has pretty good base damage and built-in frenzy generation.
Ian Wright
FUCK
Grayson Ross
Yeah but we get THREE league features we've seen before in 12 days!
Jack Young
Is there nobody that makes wacky class mixes to have fun on this game rather than being min-maxing diablo tier niggers?
Jaxon James
Some people find min-maxing fun
Connor Sanchez
It looks fun and I'll probably play it but I've been getting excited thinking this shit dropped in March.
Nathan Cox
I like doing "wacky class mixes" that can actually clear shit.
Benjamin Brooks
Figure it out… You're almost there…
Go back to reddit you stupid fuck.
Jonathan Davis
>Wiki specifically says that only hits that deal phys/chaos can poison
David Edwards
welcome to Holla Forums
Jaxson Reyes
dude what
Alexander Fisher
Wiki specifically says that poison scales off of physical and chaos damage. Item only says it adds poison to all your hits. At no stage did it say that it changes the damage types which poison scales off of. This is reddit-tier wishful thinking retarded logic. Never invent additional rules that are not written in the text just because you think it would be "fitting" or "useful" that way. The abilities do what they say. No more. No less.
Ryder Edwards
The 10 Meme ballistas build started like that and ended up being actually good. Some even ended up being OP, like the wormblaster builds. And both were made by the same guy
Gabriel Gonzalez
ice herald worm build was invented by someone, that guy just took credit for it.
Ryan Brooks
I tried the old man class and made it summon skeletons and shit. that was pretty fun, but it was a long time ago
Ayden Miller
If you're new enough to the game that you can't design a viable endgame build on your own, then without a build guide, your character will not survive through Merciless, and especially no chance at end game maps.
You'll likely just hit a wall and have to make a new character and follow a guide until you get the hang of it.
James Cruz
They were, very briefly, 1.2 to 1.5c, at around the same time that 1ex was like 14c, which seems to be in that image too. Last I played, everything under ex were becoming worthless, and from day 5~ onward in each new league, it was like 80c:1ex or higher. In perandus I remember it being like 180c:1ex for a while, in sc at least.
Jace Martinez
This will be you in cruel/merc. I made this build as a joke between friends: every decision I made in the making of it was made incredibly drunk, so it turned out exactly like a brand new player's build.
Bentley Cox
Breach ends on the 27th of February, not the 3rd of march.
I normally play hardcore but I'm gonna go softcore for this upcoming league just so I can actually try out all the broken shit. What's a good dumb build I can try that won't be stupidly expensive?
The +int is desireable? I know it adds a small amount of ES% but that makes a big difference?
Cooper Butler
For my particular build it is, but fuck it, I'll at least try for a t1 int roll too.
Josiah Russell
not at that low a tier
sure, if you're solo self fouund.
Hudson Reyes
5int=global 1%es. Also armor is not so bad now. You can easily hit +30k with the brass dome. 2500 hit will be reduced by half!
Camden Hughes
you have over 100 chaos why are you asking retards on Holla Forums if you should consider wasting one whole fucking regal and a scouring. Come back when you roll good digits. good luck user
Andrew Johnson
lrn 2 count fgt.
yea, flicker is retarded.
arc is shit. if you want to go for lightning damage go templer/inquisitor and use spark or ball lightning. maybe a mjölner arc build could be made viable, but that would take some serious theorycrafting.
Aaron Cox
Ark hit target once and in short range. Spark can hit target multiple times and in basically unlimited range. And they nerfed mjolner because fps/server problems. They even nerfed coc discharge while it was not the top tier build anyway.
Daniel Morales
i know they nerved mjölner so that it only triggers one spell at a time with a cooldown of 0.1 seconds, but thats still 10 casts per second although admittedly on a three link. if nothing else it could be a decent map clearer.
Matthew Cook
You can just cast it yourself. No benefits unless you doing some silly hybrid build.
Samuel Bennett
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Nathaniel Murphy
The mods/devs are also sjws for the most part now and censor all sorts of shit. This was great at the beginning but now i hope these cocksuckers fail. How could such a good game be allowed to be ruined by retards ill just never know.
yea crown of eyes and atziris foible would probably be mandatory. i just like mjölner because its so much cooler than the purple dildo that is cospris malice. but it looks like its time is past.
Evan Morgan
Indeed. I wish you could make interesting builds and not think about efficiency. Yes, there are a lot more viable options but still, whole thing is dictated by efficiency only.
Michael King
Don't talk bullshit with current clear meta and unplayable HC only proper and fun thing in this game is taking an idea for a build and trying to make it work.
pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1606509 Found this quite amazing way to make discharge plus Mjolner work. Resolute technique gives zero crits. Romira's Banquet makes that every non crit gives power charge, any crit consumes all charges but you don't deal crits. Voll's Devotion gives endurance for all consumed power charges, which you get by Romira's and waste on discharge.
Aiden Foster
thats actualy sounds pretty decent. i might try that next league, especialy since volls devotion should go down in price alot because it can drop again.
Tyler Torres
Cost a lot and dont have any benefits. Any dagger could do a better job. Without crits you cant do power overload/noncrit discharge deal much less damage. Discharge has biggest crit to begin with. Cost a lot, require a lot of stats, dont do anything better than anything. And voll devotion is used in every discharge build. Also Its 2.5 now. 250ms cd instead of 100ms. Cheaper to just stack crit and voll protector and just self cast it with gajilion crit chance from powercharges.
Camden Nelson
Same thing happened with war thunder.
Nolan Flores
Fuck I thought it was long ass time ago. Still it seems like most viable way to do Mjolner is discharge. Resolute + Romira was quite awesome idea, but like you said going crit will most likely win. If you even want to use Mjolner at this point, Malice would be better because it scales with ele damage and crit. If you even want to trigger it, GGG added special -35% damage to make it not viable.
I hate it. Why the fuck all interesting stuff in this game is getting nerfed or forgotten. Meanwhile we have stuff that is clearly overpowered and not given counter mechanic or nerfed. Remember when Blasphemy wasn't here and people actually used non-curse auras and creative ways to use curse on hit? Me neither I haven't seen non-blasphemy curse since blasphemy was introduced. Even Contagion doesn't work because it doesn't hit and cannot be used with curse on hit because it doesn't hit. It doesn't even spread curses when you add curse on hit on your essence drain.
Gavin Campbell
And an oldest idea.
FPS issues, server issues. Mainstream way. Orb of storms is the best way to trigger elemental overload and put 2 curses and to trigger el equilibrium. Popular and easy doenst mean the best way. Stop confusing popular and best.
Gavin Carter
Yes but then it is weak on non-equlibrium you still have to cast one more spell that is not as reliable as instant auto cast on every enemy near you.
Liam Collins
Fuck me I'm retarded. This is what you get for creating threads in a hurry and not double checking. Thanks, fam. You may call me a faggot now.
Henry Stewart
You're one of those imbeciles, aren't you?
Kayden Morris
I wish PoE ran on my toaster craptop running linux
James Kelly
Hey, that song is pretty good and fitting. What is it called?
Alexander Reyes
Ever since i played wurm, I completely drained my autism reserves and they haven't gone back up one bit.
Noah Johnson
I never pick a character back up after a long hiatus, just make a new one.
Benjamin Martinez
I followed your tip and made a duelist that i plan to use with a bow named "FeatherweightTwink" I also remembered how much I wanted to dick Nessa.
Leo Gonzalez
It's amazing how badly a game that looks like that runs.
Nolan Rivera
Why does PoE have such retarded balancing, early on it's piss easy, then suddenly the game will start throwing increasingly sadistic shit at you, and then there's just a threshold when everything becomes an insane fuckfest where you are basically required to exploit the mechanics as much as possible in order to do any progress, and if you didn't assign all skills and gems in a perfect manner you're fucked permanently.
why this is not fun
Christian Morales
Casual. But I must admit I should just pirate Rimworld before Legacy League instead of sitting here making 3rd version of essence drain.
Another Casual.
Jonathan Brown
it's not exploitation if it's the intended to be that way
Julian Garcia
Do people really not know you can reset passives ? It's not like orbs or regret are even expensive or overly rare ffs.
Wyatt Allen
An ex wont even get you a full respec
Caleb Reyes
if you need a full respec you might as well reroll, if you fucked up your tree in some way and you are not just completely new and have some idea what you are doing the respec points you get from quests should be enough.
Matthew Diaz
What gain is there from having respeccing carry any cost?
Blake Taylor
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Cameron Taylor
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Angel Cruz
that's wrong too but i wasnt talking about it
Parker Brooks
Not going to be happening anymore in the future. You will want to finish the story just for that last god power.
Charles Fisher
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Ryder White
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Asher Brown
also, it's hardcore
Levi Roberts
>BR
Asher White
Okay so my flicker strike just started A4 and is shit. No damage. Having raw elemental weapons and no phys is very hard for leveling from Ranger
Survivability is an issue too. If i have charges i win. If not I have to rely on a fortified frenzy to build them, even w poachers mark blasphemy. I have 800 life and resists but i melt, no armor or es and only 30% eva
How fix
Anthony Nelson
Did you try getting less shit gear on poe.trade?
Owen Garcia
Get more life and resists on gear, that's about it if you're on a planned build path.
Ethan Lee
I recently turned on Hardcore. I recommended some noob to take 6% energy shield nodes as they are worth it. In response I gotten that it is hardcore and I should just oneshoot everything from two screens away instead of making a tank. Later I decided my character will be better on Softcore. First thing I see in chat is random person suggesting to some noob to take survivability. You are not destroying my world view.
Angel Myers
Go do lab, ascend to Raider, get Way of the Poacher, never run out of charges.
Mason Jackson
You SHOULD be 1-shotting nigs from screens away on any HC non-melee, but you should also have as much fucking HP and ES as possible to avoid getting bullied by bosses, small areas, or projectiles. ES nodes themselves are a bit iffy, I guess, especially early on, but HP nodes and ES gear are basically necessary.
Adam Parker
Well of course the guy was joking but it funny how guy stuff works right now. Most viable way to make a tank is on Softcore.
Sebastian Gomez
Git gud This game is not fun because you are always trying to find good gear the sockets the right gems like a crack fiend trying to find a rock in crush dry wall.
Fuck the game RNG bullshit, its a carrot on a string to keep you playing and slaving away until your deluded enough to pay for their INCREDIBLY expensive skins or effects.
Xavier White
Why would anyone buy those shitty cosmetics that do nothing but add MORE particle effects? I bought two stash tabs with gabencardbux but I don't get people buying the horrible cosmetics.
Nicholas Evans
I can answer this. To make Templar playable. After 10h of playing I could no longer look at his thighs.
Michael Flores
How effective do you guys think a vampire ranger build is? Basically, i'm picking up everything that increases my physical damage, togheter with everything that increases my life leech and life leech related stats, togheter with multiple projectiles as usual, togheter with hematophagy. I also have iron reflexes because if i'm going to invest so much in health regen i might aswell dump evasion. Then since I also have so much strength i got iron grip. I'm thinking about getting blood magic but I have quite a few things that require a lot of intelligence.
Ayden Flores
Or boost APS and use LGOH
Lots of phys = lots of damage with the usage of auras
Also i would consider bleeding
You get the int from items. its easy to get around 200 int from rings and shit to use level 20 int gems
lol, okay
Thomas Perez
Can't wait for new league to start. As always, THIS time it will be different.. I will plan a build, follow it and have fun :^) .
N-not go totems, reach level 70 and through public parties and then quit..
I wont even go HC this time, so I can actually play the game for once.
Austin Ward
Only terrible thing about PoE are the insufferable dipshits it seems to attract.
Jeremiah Miller
I accidentally pressed apply on the build so i just went with it. I'm fucking immortal. Although I haven't tried anything actually hard yet.
Isaiah Young
Oi, ZiggyD here, boosting the price for shit items into unbelievable heights because GGG fondles my balls.
Connor Clark
Hm. Try Apex, if you can finish with 0 deaths, thats enough for a rough build. You can polish it on the way to 85-90.
Jack Long
Or, you know, you could just get a decent amount of leech and go Vaal Pact, which would be flat out better?
Benjamin Jackson
Wasnt this nerfed?
Evan Phillips
Yes but VP is still extremely strong. Especially crit builds tend to go for it, and if you're going for bows you might as well go crit since it's so easy.
Juan Price
Hm. Tornado Shot/LL/Vaal Pact … Lioneyes Glare until 70 something or until you get a better phys bow. What do you think?
Christopher Gray
I imagine you mean life leech. LL usually stands for Low Life, which you probably don't want to do unless you have a shavs and some really high ES gear lying around. But yeah, that's fine. Could also go Point Blank and get a Chin Sol if you want to live life a bit more on the edge - I did a Point Blank crit Ice Shot Berserker a few leagues ago and that was hella fun.
Wyatt Hernandez
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Charles Watson
I haven't played this in years Anyway I'm level 68 and i just tried scepter of god alone. I take way too much damage to survive on some of the bosses on the 3rd floor. My main attack is ice shot with GMP, then I have the hatred aura on and also herald of Ice. I have puncture for the bleeding debuff and barrage for single target. My gear also increases ice-related stuff. (this is all from an old build). My other skills are the flame totem and vaal summon skeletons. I'm starting to remember what i tried to do with the old build I had which got wiped by some update, I wanted a ranger that was a bit of everything. It worked pretty well, the aura was welcomed by team mates, I used the skeletons and the totem as minions and i had some aoe/single target damage. I just wish I wasn't so squishy but I'll start investing into more evasion nodes which will pump up my armor and then also on some hp nodes.
Jayden Ortiz
See, this is where a lot of beginners make a mistake. You want your build to be focused, using one or *maybe* two main skills at most. no yes
Zachary Sanchez
we argued that to death in the last thread and we agreed that you are retarded.
Noah Anderson
What else to expect from a rotemonkey? They're barely sentient as is.
Justin King
Not best use for Vaal Pact but it is so close to Ranger you might just take it.
Right now low life is pretty much CI build without CI and Shavronne. Chaos is not big enough problem for immunity to be worth it when you can get 1-2 more auras and low life status. You essentially want LL every time you play CI. You can respec from CI to lowlife using ~10 respec points.
Sebastian Bennett
Why does noone use Uul-Netol's Embrace? Is the low attack speed really not worth getting for bleed on hit and bone nova?
Alexander Allen
Guessing there are so many better weapons for whatever 2h attack is meta these days.
Robert Sullivan
Negative attack speed means it's only good for eq, but eq with such high hit damage oneshots everything so they don't even get to bleed to activate the axe's bone nova thing. The weapon is just anti synergy with itself, not to mention an atziri's disfavour can have almost as much damage and can also eq, and a starforge can have more and use other skills, I mean, sure these weapons are much more expensive but you're probably better off with some rare axe.
John Price
Why does GGG still do those "press tours" in San Francisco? Do they still think game journalists are relevant, it's just obnoxious to attempt to get your players to go to several sites to get information on upcoming content.
Aiden Green
they go to SF to fuck murrcan hookers and to feel important talking to all the "journalists"
Isaiah Cooper
Pretty much this . It is technically one more gem compared Cast on Melee Kill as you could put faster attacks in it to counter negative attack speed. Problem is Cast on Melee kill is not really that useful compared to proper AoE.
No wonder Brevik joined GGG.
Ian Ross
You could probably get free hummers from any local tranny in SF. Guess they have some connection to the SF clique, but I can't imagine that it really gets them any more players.
Robert Peterson
Get your Raider ascendency for the charge generation. I'd also swap to a different curse and use Blood Rage instead to help build frenzy charges. Until you get the ascendency you should probably not be using flicker strike. When I leveled my Hezmana's Flicker Raider at the beginning of Breach I used a different melee skill until I was able to do the labyrinth. Reave or Lacerate are okay filler choices or you can use a namelocking melee skill with a melee splash gem.
You shouldn't use a skill like flicker or discharge until your character is at the point where charge generation is consistent.
Evan Watson
Sponsored events, is my guess. They don't get to pay for the venue, trip over, hotel, booze and announcement party. Game journalism is just another place for high school kids (mentally) to write some essay and then party all night.
John King
I know how good LL is, but I doubt he wants to do a low-life bow build when he clearly isn't very experienced at the game.
Henry Scott
It was just random info after I wasted 4h today to theorycraft that Essence build. Really taking CI can be quite risky if you don't know what you are doing. LL is just another step after that.
Noah Rodriguez
Okay, thanks. I don't make melee characters so i dont know all the tricks. Like i said survivability has been tricky and damage in general has been sparse.
I'll see how i fare later tonight with other shit then.
Evan Anderson
Why can't next week come sooner.
Aaron Hughes
Standard has fuckhuge prices because people have more currency. Always compare prices relative to each other instead of looking at absolute values.
Kayden Moore
don't buy anything in standard, just wait for next league to start, just a couple of weeks more, hell league specific uniques will be cheaper in that league, both because of the legacy shit and because of perandus.
Alexander Robinson
I know that, but that doesn't change that I've never played standard and I normally throw away currency at the end of a league, so I only have 5ex and like 200c on standard. One of the pieces of equipment I need to try out what I wanted is like 30ex minimum on standard (though only 3~ex on breach, but breach means I'd have to grind).
Alexander James
Actually, fuck it: if anyone here has a taming+emberwake, pls respond.
Grayson Perez
This is actually what happened in D3. There was few legendary items compared to absurd amount of gold that accumulated without having any way to lose it, even D3 hardcore was extremely safe to play. What is quite baffling they decided to fix it by removing action house 3 months before leagues started in D3. Now D3 have leagues that would fix entire action house and unstable economy problem but any player trading is removed.
Look Embarwake is quite cheap but Taming is legacy item. I doubt any of faggots here got it and even if they did I doubt your anal virginity would be large enough price for it.
Jayden Williams
emberwake is cheap as shit, and it's probably better to buy the taming component rings than the whole thing, or at least that was the case in breach for some reason, I doubt anyone would just give their taming away
Jayden Lewis
If you do decide to swap out Poacher's Mark and do Blood Rage, you may consider throwing in Warlords Mark instead you can also do elemental weakness or one of the element specific curses to try and get your damage up. The leech is better than poacher's and it will give you endurance charge generation for a CWDT+Immortal Call+Increased Duration setup which will help with survivability.
My flicker build took a lot of experimentation to do and even then due to the nature of flicker strike there will always be the fear of random gibs. I ended up focusing on physical damage and swinging down towards the duelist area of the tree to get that and life/leech that really isn't available by Ranger/Shadow areas.
John Richardson
Tamings were available during perandus, weren't they? Either way, yeah I'll probably just wait for next league.
Daniel Foster
Don't think you can get Taming from Cadiro, but you could get the component rings for it.
Cameron Mitchell
Apparently you can chance the components on an appropriate zana map mod
Brayden Morales
Apparently Oros is good because of the frenzy on kill or whatever (which is why im using poachers). I have some devotion towards max charges (5) and grabbing the life/mana leech on attack group by duelist.
Despite that i am considering just getting some phys nodes. Even quecholli is failing without that oomph from the tree
Luis Wilson
It's frenzy on ignite, and it's amazing. It can single-handedly hold infinite frenzy charges, just need to sacrifice doing any phys (and thus phys nodes).
Lucas Jones
sooo the only boss that you're getting your ass handed to is the phoenix? seems good
Luis Butler
phoenix atziri and the map mod that makes mobs immune to elemental status effects.
Jordan Torres
Well, you see a large area at once because of isometric view, and it's all the complicated and screenfilling spell effects and animations that are the largest burden on performance. Not the textures of NPCs.
James Johnson
What's wrong with the cosmetic skins being expensive? They have to fund the continuous development of the game somehow, because the actual game itself is free for everyone. You know, like the development of THE SIX NEW ACTS INCOMING. If they were getting less money, we would be getting less content and less improvements.
Jose Jones
yeah, it must be that
Brody Phillips
I have a feeling a lot of the acts will be reusing assets from their respective areas; but maybe not. Act 5 should be entirely new.
I'm okay with the last half being remixes though. It's a fun feeling when games "come back" to old areas, and asking them to completely design all new tilesets for every fucking area of every zone would be obtuse and pointless; I expect about 6-10 new tilesets added to the game, though.
Tyler Fisher
I never liked things like this. As far as I can tell, it has two great damage mods, but for two separate damage streams. What spells actually use weapon base damage?
John Johnson
They don't, they would be attacks otherwise.
Lincoln Moore
I watched gameplay footage of Act 6 and it looked nothing like currently existing Acts
Luis Thomas
Alright, Holla Forums, r8 my proposed legacy scrubcore build. Did I make any seriously retarded mistakes or or is any of my pathing suboptimal? Am I gay?
It's a 2 handed mace stunner designed to get pretty okay top ends and hopefully get relative stun durations. The plan is to get Maroi Equis and two Rapid Expansions with Slayer's high aoe and Ground Slam the world.
Mahooiee Elquis is usually really cheap right? I remember two handed maces being super cheap all the time in the last few leagues and considering how double dip is still gonna be super popular I expect it to be. But then again softcore market is usually screwy.
Leo Wright
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Ayden Fisher
God damn it, thanks user.
Kevin Price
Anyone know if you can add an item filter based on map tier?
Joshua Richardson
Alright you memeloving fucks, here's an item filter I made to make maps more visible
Funfact, they actually added a lot of new tilesets during the Labyrinth and Atlas of Worlds update. If you check out maps, they're already testing out mix and matching tilesets. Eg. Mesa is actually mixing Kaom's Path + Desert minus the filter but it's not immediately obvious. Quarry I don't know where they got it but I'm guessing it's the Mines tileset set outdoor. And so on and so forth.
Marohi Erqi is a good cheap weapon, but it won't last you until later maps. Get a good rare coronal maul (you can easily get one with 500 dps + for around 20c), or get kongor's undying rage. You could also build around that new maul coming, Tidebreaker. It gives endurance charge on stun and is pretty cool overall.
Carter Parker
What the fuck am I seeing
Christopher Ross
Is it worth running a filter to look for best-in-slot base whites, even if I'm not looking for anything in particular?
Lincoln Reed
Those leech nodes are worthless, you should be running warlords mark on blasphemy for your leech(and additional stun chance). You also don't need unwavering stance when you're life + armour. You hardly ever get stunned. 12% phys dmg is better than 4% attackspeed unless you're stacking attackspeed (by the starter duelist nodes). If you wanted attackspeed you shoulda gone raider instead.
Sebastian Wood
You're better off buying a white from poe.trade than looking for one with high ilvl. The time you spend sorting through all the shit white items is time you could have spent farming that one chaos it'd cost you to buy it.
Mason Evans
How do you know which to go for?
It's obvious when using LL - leech proper with big hits, and on hit when using attack speed, but what about for generalized damage?
Isaiah Green
If you do everything right in most cases, you shouldn't have to use more than one attack per pack, that's why dmg > attackspeed.
Stacking attackspeed on stuff like raider with tons of frenzy charges and skills that require several hits. Bladeflurry poison combo for example.
You also usually spec into some attackspeed on many builds really late late into the build just QoL when you shieldcharge/whirling blades.
Takes no time to program an item filter that automatically does it for you, once you know how.
Angel Roberts
How many hours do I have to put into this game before people will genuinely believe me when I say I don't like it?
Christian Perez
I think he meant that the screen will explode into whites, making it pointless.
Dylan Perez
Zero. If you don't like it then you don't like it.
Michael Perry
depends who you're talking to. If you're talking to some diehard fanboy, you can never play enough. If you're talking to a normal person 1-2 hours. It's not like it's a unique or good game
Josiah Perez
If you're going life, you ALWAYS need the scion life wheel. Life has been shafted for the longest time now, and you need as much life as you can get. If you want to crit, you need WAY more crit than you currently have on the tree.
I'd go something like this for life-based iceshot: poeurl.com/3CN
Christian Reed
I didn't like Diablo or Diablo 2 or Neverwinter Nights or any Diablo clones and when I played this when it first released I didn't like it in any capacity whatsoever and even having said all of this with extreme sincerity I still have a dare-I-say "friend" who pesters me to play for the upcoming league of whatever-the-fuck
Is there a way to make it stop or am I going to have to kill this man?
Luke Martin
No, no way at all. He's pretty much going to be unable to believe that anyone could dislike the game without being a "nasty troll". Honestly just change the topic or ignore him, I have a friend who plays warframe constantly and I just make fun of him for dumping money on it until he gets mad and leaves whenever he brings it up.
Anthony Perry
He seems to think that for some reason I'll enjoy the game just because he'll be inviting me to his circle of friends.
Jackson Mitchell
if you have less than 20 i will believe you because you probably havent gotten to the endgame yet and the leveling is a bit shit. ive known a few people that hated the leveling process but no one who hated mapping. im glad they are reworking that in 3.0.
Daniel Cook
I don't care about the leveling.
I hate the control scheme on a fundamental level. I hate the mechanics. I absolutely hate everything about how the game plays.
Brody Hill
Then why are you here? You don't like it, and all you're doing is wasting your time posting about it when everyone else enjoys it
Justin Bailey
Path of exile is objectively a bad game, like all Diablo clones it's a glorified slot machine. This fact attracts a lot of people, like a casino, but also the game itself ticks some boxes that makes the game more tolerable for the rest. For me it's building characters with uniques since the game has somewhat well structured mechanics (Bonus points if it's an original idea) and playing with other people (Which goes nicely with the former). If either was missing I wouldn't touch this game with a ten foot pole.
Jaxon Powell
maybe arpgs just arent your genre then.
Camden Gutierrez
Why are you even here? Just to shitpost?
Ryder Sullivan
Mapping was hot garbage that involved rerolling shitty maps until the game decided to grace you with a non-ass one. In fact the only part I really like about the game is the mid 30s-mapping because you get to play your character and not have to worry about constantly rerolling gear to get decent gear.
You're just gonna have to ignore him or something then, if he's your friend it's not worth cutting ties just because you don't like a thing he likes or vice versa.
Grayson Adams
Honestly PoE have stiff enough controls for aRPG I would believe anyone who don't like it. Tell you friend you hate aRPGs and send him this to describe how much.
Christopher Scott
Well then, just tell your friend to fuck off if he asks you to play. It's that simple. If he gets triggered by that then it's honestly on him, not on you.
John Robinson
on most maps i just alch and go, unless its a particularly high level map i need returns from.
Cooper Nelson
How can you have a build so shitty that you can't run like 90% of map mods?
Connor Johnson
High level and need returns or Reflect are the big 2 usually. Some builds reroll on Cannot leech, and that's just how bad RNG decides to hate you. It's just awful, not to mention around then you'll start really hurting without a 5L for your main, which can be another pain to get the right colors on.
Really I just hate endgame because there's just so much RNG involved. Barring that grinding masters and then even more currency which is just boring.
Levi Gomez
Did you even read my post? I like the game for some personal reasons, that doesn't stop the fact that IT IS a bad game. Because at its core, it's not more than a slot machine braindead grinding mayhem. You run through maps as if monsters weren't a thing, which by the way is literally intentional as mentioned by GGG's "TV in the background" shitstorm. There is practically no difference in what build you run, or what uniques you have, you will explode the screen anyway in the end, just in slightly different ways, and hope you get some good drops for no reason other than OCD because you are already done with the content. It's completely understandable for people to not like this, people try to pass it off as if this game was super deep, but once you take the building aspect away, end game gameplay can be achieved by a 10 year old. That's why it's so popular.
Angel Mitchell
Because any JRPG is more than a walking simulator with story
Brayden Barnes
So? Most JRPG are also terrible games.
Noah Fisher
Right, so reducing a game or genre to "it's just an X simulator" is incredibly retarded because at their core, every single fucking game is a waste of time.
No retard, what I mean is that your mind literally shuts down when you play these games. There is no thought or skill involved for most of your playthrough. A game that requires no concentration at all can't be a good game, pretty much by definition.
Julian Phillips
Oh yes, I also forgot to mention I got vaal pact. My health will probably regen really quick since I have so much leech and my main attack is an AOE. In the future i'll try to get the piercing nodes
Austin James
Well pretty much any spell that is great with Cast on Melee Kill for that 20% more spell damage on top of. Also 100% increased fire damage if you've been hit recently on top of the added fire on spells is enough for people to take it even if they don't plan on using the weapon itself.
Charles Turner
With this you only have 126% life from the tree. That's nowhere near enough. Even if you grab t1 life on all your gear, double life coral rings and a legacy kaoms, you still are at risk of being oneshot from bosses.
If you dont want to spend that many points on life I'd suggest going CI. Its safer, stronger and generally better.
Dominic Morris
You could do something like this guys CI blastrain build.
You wouldn't use the signal fire quiver, and you'd get those ice pen nodes, but otherwise its pretty much the same.
Thomas Perez
Not going dodge when you're life+evasion is also a tremendous waste.
Jose Evans
Indeed. But with this low hp its irrelevant.
Mason Perry
Well that is problem instead of giving some good armor node with additional phys reduction to make armor viable they decided to include all life nodes in there instead. God I wish armor would be as good as evasion or ES.
Instead of cold res/evasion just take life/evasion from beginning of your tree. Besides this it is actually very good. You have a lot of attack speed, projectile, jewel nodes to take for last 30 points, you can just go for duelist for more of everything from there. One suggestion I have would be taking Vaal Pact, instant heal.
Also poeplanner.com/ you will have instant info how much bonus stats you have here.
In the end its mediocre build with no good qualities. You cant win if you use mediocre build with no prospects of insane damage potential.
Samuel Clark
How to make the build good: 1. Go CI 2. Either go elemental overload or grab critmulti+powercharges 3.get dodge
das it mane
Grayson Price
woops
3. if you go life, go dodge as well *
Elijah James
Why CI in specific? Is chaos damage that important?
Camden Bell
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Angel Hernandez
Chaos Damage is most unimportant damage type. It is usually over time and therefore without damage spike. On top of the fact only few enemies uses it.
Reason to take CI is you get much more health by investing into ES instead of Life. Problem is Chaos bypasses energy shield, so you should either take unique with "chaos damage doesn't bypass energy shield" or CI for immunity.
Hudson Hernandez
Yep. You have no idea what are you talking about.
Zachary Murphy
What I said is wrong? Ok I will admit I might have said something wrong about chaos but this is main point about ES, there is more of it.
Aiden Long
Is there a build that's as good as, and as lazy as the fishymancer from D2?
Brody Cook
Well if you haven't made it to the endgame mapping phase then you don't really know what the game is like. It's objectively a really good game, definitely the best Diablo-like ARPG, but of course it isn't for everyone. It's very multiplayer focused unlike most other ARPGs.
Benjamin Clark
Should I really give up on the generic elemental res/cold res/evasion nodes? What if I do what you say but still keep them, I'd go a little bit overboard on points but I'll just have to level up. Even if I don't take survivalist, using those nodes to get to the side with dodge nodes instead of going north would mean I lose 10 dex but spend 1 extra point and have 6% extra generic elemental res and 20% more evasion.
Hunter Brown
fuck i mean 24% more evasion.
Xavier Turner
You will be able to get max res from gear. One max res is nice but not really worth it, same for more evasion. If you want, take them. For me it is more worth to have 2 extra points.
Nathaniel Myers
I do nothing but wacky make-it-up-as-I-go self-found theme builds, and I manage to clear cruel with all of them, and clear merciless with ~20% of them. I find it the most fun way to play, since you don't know ahead of time whether it will be successful or not - you have to figure out what's working and what's shit as you go and try to course-correct as best you can. Using carefully planned builds, or "official" builds from some guide, removes any question. If you go cookie-cutter, you WILL clear everything effortlessly. It's good if you just want success, but how boring is that? When you use someone else's build, they're playing the game more than you are at that point.
Parker Davis
It's popular because the gameplay is insanely good and well designed
user. Why are you taking Unwavering Stance on a Witch? Just get the Eye of Chayula fam. Also, >not taking the ES nodes at the start. Those are worth a lot more than taking int nodes.
Pick elemental overload, drop chance to freeze shit. Its useless. Pick melding circle. Assassination is not going to work without any other crit passives. You also need to pick nullification. You kidding me?
Logan Johnson
No fuck it, this is like staring into abyss. You are taking 20 points for unwavering stance, resistances, 1 jewel and weapon ele damage even through you won't use weapons.
Thank god. It actually works.
Luke White
Occultist ascension for chaos resist penalty on cursed enemies with hierophant ascension for double totems and additional ES from mana. One of the few worthwhile scion combinations.
Jack Moore
What totems? You dont need more than one. Less es than occultist will give. And occultist give you profane bloom. And btw abyssal cry is not a spell.
Logan Perry
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Liam Bell
Breaches.
Jacob Peterson
Because those are going to be everywhere in the future.
Tyler Collins
With triple beyond in fact.
Christian Perez
Trickster exists btw.
Noah Jenkins
It does? What's it good for?
Parker Torres
R8 memebuild I'm planning on trying out next patch.
Camden Nelson
Lets see. It gives shit tone of flat ES and bonus dodge. It has a lot of cast speed. It gives nice bonuses for damage over time and all recoveries, including mana. And free frenzy generator for more dmg and cast speed.
Lets see… What skill uses a lot of cast speed but benefits shit tone from damage over time and could use bonus for mana because it is channeled? I know Blight.
The sunder and mortar can also double dip you. They arrive at almost the same time at certain distances.
Justin Reed
So stupid that there is no corrupted counterpart for that ring.
Justin Evans
What do you mean?
Gabriel Walker
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Benjamin Taylor
One that does the same but for curse and is supported by blasphemy.
Jonathan Anderson
I stop my builds at 110 points. Anything after that is just bonus that may or may not come to pass.
Juan Cox
Just dropped this from a strongbox. Seems spicy
Jaxson Wilson
boring/10.
Levi James
Just vendor it
Luis Lopez
Nice ring, dont listen to that fag.
Caleb Clark
wew. So do we have an Holla Forums guild going?
Adam Foster
It's dead, and there's too much chance that people will just steal from it. Maybe a steam group instead :^)
Carter Lopez
I mean muted not banned
Oliver Lee
Its dead. But as last alive officer I cant leave it. On the other hand its not like poe is a social game to begin with.
Jayden Foster
You actually put shit in the stash? Kek, most of what i have is stolen from guild stashes from retards.
Well yeah but it's good to have an autism chat and an easy way to team up with anons.
Jose Clark
Who else is there? It can't be just you
Aiden Sullivan
Alone. But I had a chat with some guy in past few weeks.
Bentley Taylor
Sign us up fam, nothing can possibly go wrong.
Ian Baker
Whatever happens, don't listen to the voices in your head user.
Christopher Cooper
Nicks? or /w Gloddk
Jackson Garcia
I got memed on by the hotpockets so I probably can't accept but my names are "PleaseBangMyWife" and "ItHasNoFuckingPauseMom", i also have a duelist called "FeatherweightTwink" but he's on the breach league and i don't plan on using him.
Mason Morgan
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Aiden Hill
If i make another character the name will be "PleaseClap"
Chase Sanders
I saw your shitposting cunt.
John Price
Sent a whisper, get online cunt
Connor Walker
Someone posted a build which gave like 96 skeletons, can someone please link to previous thread or repost that webm?
Also that is missing pierce nodes, so it's worth considering dropping some stuff to get those. Ice Shot kind of gets away with not getting pierce but I'd recommend it anyways.
Levi Myers
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Owen Lopez
All dem garbs
Brody Sullivan
what loot filter is that, nigga?
Gabriel Taylor
My own, I've been working on it. Why?
Jason Murphy
Im looking for ranger build which is easy to level and good in endgame. Any suggestions ples
Wyatt White
I like the transparency with a border.
I'm not a fan of shit like neversink which dumps thick solid colors everywhere. that's not to say I don't like the use of colors, I just think they should be more subdued.
Juan James
see Though keep in mind
Though that depends on what your definition of "endgame" is, since when I played this Shaper wasn't out yet. Does T15's just fine though.
Caleb Price
See
This keeps the traditional colors for map drops and rarity, but adds a subtle fade and background every 3 tiers so you know which maps are shit. Tier 1-6 are smaller, as well.
Henry Gonzalez
Honestly this looks great for bosses but it's probably shit for clearing trash since skeletons are retarded.
Robert Bell
Where should i go in skill path? Down or top?
Juan Scott
I feel like I'm wasting my currency on maps… I spent a bunch of alchs buying maps from Zana for atlas completion, I'm sitting at 55 complete or so and not seeing any new ones appear so I've stopped buying as many, which is good.
Usually when I do a map, it's around T7-9, and if it's one I like, I'll drop 4 chisels on it and alch it. If I have extra sac fragments, I might toss one or two onto the map or vaal it if it has good mods, but overall it just feels like I'm losing traction with that.
I can get ~110% quantity and I use +qty gems as well, but eh
Daniel Ross
Do not trade with npc trade with players. Wasting currency on yellow maps is useless. You spend more time rolling them really.
Charles Howard
Like said, don't waste chisels on mid tiers, only reds. Same for sac frags and Vaals, really.
Carter James
Dont chisel yellow maps. Chisel reds or when you get higher level only chisel T13 and above. When you alch a map don't reroll with a chaos unless you are swimming in them or the roll is absolute shit and even then only try rerolling it once. Better to just save a shit roll map for a character with a build that can handle it. Only vaal a map if it is red.
Always be picking up rares for chaos recipe to keep your total chaos count high and hammers to do chisel recipe. When you need alchs just trade for them with the excess chaos to other players. As soon as you can sustain red maps alchs and chaos start to be less of a problem. I think I usually stop doing chaos recipes all together when I can sustain T13+ as I am getting regular chaos and alch drops along with the occasional divine or exalt. From there you just have to trade with players to keep your currencies high as you should be making enough from drops to do so.
If you are having trouble filling out your atlas you can always sell 3 of the same map to a vendor to get a map 1 tier higher thats next to it on the atlas.
Kayden Thompson
Also pick up stone hammers and shit like that. A quality 20% stone hammer/gavel/whatever they are called + any map sells to a vendor for a chisel.
Dylan Lopez
Rock Breaker
Wyatt Reed
Waste of time really. Unless you are dirty poor.
Anthony Sullivan
Hope rides alone.
I seriously didn't know that item existed and if I were willing to have literally 0 attack speed I'd consider it. Might make for some good comedy, though.
Yeah I really should be taking damage over those two attack speed nodes considering stun thresholds.
Thanks for the help, brahs.
Elijah Kelly
In fact you cant get rich without trading. Doing all the small stuff is good, but without selling good shit you will remain poor. And by doing poor jobs you will stay underpayed. I think 100 chaos orbs is a good start to changing habits. Purchase a good weapon and make a moneymaker build. A lot of builds require just 50c weapon. Like that molten strike axe. And start running red maps like crazy. Or uberlabs if you are slayer. Also running dried lake actually has a lot of advantages over low tier maps because you can run it without wasting any time on roling mods on a map. Yes, you will lose 20% more items compared to map, but if you can run it with sufficient speed it still will be more beneficial. Unless you are ready to invest in maps with good cards like spider forest(or whichever drops HH card). But trading is still the king. However try not to sell shit that cost 1 alch or less, try trading 1c items at least. But its not really hard to gain them anyway. If you dont know what to sell try comparing item with unique items of the same slot. If your item is better that uniq than you most likely will be able to sell it higher than 1c. Jewelry/belts can sell really good more than 1ex easily. And install good loot filter.
They just released mace just for you. And -aspd is nothing to earthquake builds.
Sebastian Ramirez
Okay, thanks anons. I'll try to hoard a bit harder. I do make use of the Chaos recipe, I have a few sorted tabs to just dump shit in. I noticed jewelry tends to be the limiting factor, since amulets are rare.
I don't generally trade with players, I usually drop some uniques on a tab with 1-2c cost and just wait. Actually just yesterday, I was about to sell an Agnerod staff, and someone told me it was worth 10c - but they didn't buy it for my low price because they were on the wrong league. I CBA to keep up with all the meme builds and currencies, so I mostly just solo
If you have a ton of the shit tier essences you can use them on white ammys or rings if you aren't getting enough of them to drop.
Isaac Hughes
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Angel Cook
It's not good because it has both life and ES. But, it's worth using for a while if its better than your currently equipped rings.
Isaiah Taylor
I basically filled in anything I'd possibly want to get. The far-reaching life nodes I'd only get when necessary, and I'll only get jew sluts if I already have/found a good jew to stick in them. I do a lot of leveling-by-need while playing, anyway, so in a build setup I see what's possible to do semi efficiently.
Aiden Bailey
If I had a hybrid build would be any good, or are there better options?
Is it worth using regrets to change my 5% life nodes into 6% ES nodes? I might also need to burn about 4 passives to reach the middle ES group
Jace Davis
Well the problem with a life ES hybrid build is that what do you use for reserving auras then? Mana? Then you have to invest a lot into mana regen, which is even more out of potential damage, and you're already hurting your damage by taking a lot of both ES and life nodes. You sacrifice a lot of damage by making a TOO tanky build.
David Kelly
Ohey time for new bread.
Gavin Price
It's page 13 dumbass
Oliver Gray
By dumb luck, my RF totems consume 0 mana, so reservation isn't really a problem for me; I occasionally use 50-70 mana to cast a dual curse or resummon my golem. I have about 6800 life+ES total now (though ES scales much harder)
Nathan Ramirez
Good feels
Adam Diaz
Also I have 2 Wings of Entropy and 3 Dyadus Should I just vendor?
Ayden Davis
check price and vendor if they're like less than 2 chaos, they're all probably an alch
Ryan Green
This scorching ray cwc icestorm build I found on the forums is insane so far. I'm only in act 4 cruel, but I am breezing through leveling faster than I ever have before.
Elijah Hall
Does it use The Whispering Ice + Pyre? Mine does, and it's fucking rad.
Blake Flores
Wow, definitely worth blowing up a bunch of regrets. Went from about 4500 life+es last week, gained about 5 levels, kept my gear about the same, and went to about 6720 total; my life scaling went down to like 1.55, but ES is now in the 3.10 range, making it twice as good to get on an item.
I don't think I need Immortal Flesh for phys resistance anymore, so I'ma grab a chain belt rare I guess
Blake Taylor
What do you guys think about poison/bleed as a build? I've noticed a few skills and items that seem to be based around it.
that is actually really damn low you're missing like 80% especially if you're melee, but it's not 1.2k es low, your gear must be dumpster tier, how much es do your chest and shield have?
Parker Morris
You should probably take 3-4 points out of the foresight cluster and grab the Melding cluster next to the jewel socket you took, then throw an Energy from Within into the socket. That will net much more ES.
Otherwise you have 151% which is a little low but with Discipline and a decent shield/chest you should be much much higher than you are.
Lucas Wright
I got a Tabula in the chest, and I figured out I'm getting about 3.05x scaling off ES. Not ideal.
Don't worry about it though, this was just a junk character I whipped together to see what would happen, since we're probably getting a reset next patch
Angel Sanchez
Yeah. I feel like I have been playing wrong all 300 previous hours I have in poe
Not sure what your build is, but you probably won't even break 30k dps with such a build. "CI Ice Witch" sounds like a very generic build, and it doesn't sound like you're going to cheese anything.
What skills do you plan on using? Any uniques? I just realized you haven't even chosen an ascendancy…I'm guessing you're really new? What kind of build are you looking to make exactly?
Maybe try something more like this? I'm really not sure what you want to do specifically, but crit is REALLY good, especially with cold spells, since critical strikes (basically) guarantee a freeze (except on things with tons of health).
Logan Parker
Also forgot to mention: try to get Energy from Within jewels in those jewel sockets. They're kind of expensive, especially at the start of a league, but really good.
Carson Hill
Sadly in the current meta the only way to make ice damage viable for endgame is to convert it to fire so you can benefit from ignites and double dipping.
Jason Smith
Luckily, there is a ring that does that for you.
Jace Bell
Brap someone make new trhead i have many questions to ask and shit!
Andrew Garcia
Holy kek i just found that ring. Looks like i'm to give some ice burns around.
Benjamin Flores
I wish conversion wasn't iterative. I understand why they flow from Physical->Fire->Chaos or what have you, but imagine the possibilities if you could do something like Fire to Cold or Cold to Physical conversions.
As it stands, because of how its implemented, half my builds end up doing fucking physical or fire no matter what I try
Nathaniel Smith
Mods don't like it when its not page 13. :^)
Connor Perry
Can confirm. Even a reputable thread like /agdg/, I got a few hour ban for remaking it on 11, and admitting it
Camden Peterson
have fun mate.
the thing is just that of the three elemental damage types fire is just objectively superior in every way. ignite + double dipping means you deal more than twice(way more) than you would with the same damage modifiers with another element. the only way to make lightning damage viable is to use retardedly op items like hand of wisdom and action, and the only way to make cold viable is to convert it to fire, which is just fucking stupid. and dont even get me started on converting fire damage to chaos, and killing shaper in 10 seconds just by abusing the double dipping you get from chaos damage, increased duration and poison. shit is beyond broken and has been for ages because they are too afraid of the community bitching at them to fix it. Its not just unbalanced, its unbalanced to hte point that it literaly deals 10 times the damage anything else in the game could ever achieve.
Chase Gonzalez
Eh, permafreeze freezing pulse seems viable I'm using cold>fire conversion on my current build though
Brody Sullivan
So for example, if I stuck a Poison support on Fireball, it can poison, but it would scale off the (non-existent) phys/chaos damage; it would need to be converted to Chaos damage, and then poison would happen, right?
What is it about poison that double dips? The fact that the initial hit and DoT usually scale off the same thing? I know one of the curses does stupid things with it.
Actually, speaking of Fireball, I recently learned that it doesn't break on chain, but it still does AoE on impact, someone said to use it with Cast on Crit. Seemed kind of funny. Although, aggressive triggers for damage seem hard to use, since I imagine you'd want to slap your farming thing in a 5-6L for maximum effectiveness
Elijah Hernandez
Nevermind I suck cocks.
Do not suck cocks, it is not the Karui way
Gavin Williams
Get in here niggers.
Cameron Barnes
permafreeze is useless because instead of freezing enemies you could just insta kill them. and most bosses are chill and freez immunde anyways.
jup, you need chaos damage to poison. for example with consuming dark dagger which converts 30%.
The double dipping works well for example with firestorm. its a duration spell, so the more skill effect duration you have the longer it lasts, but skill effect duration also increases your poison duration. so 20% skill effect duration means 10% more firestorm damage, so the poison damage scales of 120% damage and is in turn increased by 20%. Same goes for chaos damage. if you have 20% increased chaos damage every single hit from firestorm deals 20% more damage and the resulting poison scales of the resulting damage and is then again scaled by 20%.
So lets say you deal 100 damage per hit and have 100% increased chaos damage. you deal 200 damage on the hit, 8% of that is converted to poison, so that 16dmg*duration and that is increased by the 100% chaos damage, so you end up with an initial hit of 200dmg + 32dmg*duration. So if you increased your duration by lets say 50% and the base duration is 2 seconds you deal 32*2*1.5 = 95dmg as overtime damage that is applied by a spell that in turn lasts longer with increased duration. you can get absurd amounts of damage that way.
Eli Rogers
Disregard that, I suck cocks. Actual link.
Henry Powell
Actually very few bosses are immune to freeze.
Anthony Fisher
realy? i though most bosses in red maps are immune.
Angel Martinez
Immunities are mostly a T16 guardian thing and mostly as a balance fuck you to ignite and poison specifically.