Shin Megami Tensei Thread

Fuck Persona.
This is an SMT thread


I'm currently doing Twisted Tokyo but I think I'm going to ravage the post game dungeon because I am lvl 99 and farmed some incenses. I have a nice Demiurge with all Rs/Dr but I want to get an Alice and a krishna for best party.

Just grinding at the post game is comfy as it is. I kind of want to try the Steven boss fight but >DLC may just cough the two dollarydoos because the game is fun

Fuck the whole persona-tier power of friendship thing the game decided to go with though.

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How do you feel that Nanashi is the strongest videogame character in existence?

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Demifiend all the way.

SMT IV isn't even SMT. Get out of here you faggot.

Nanashi exists in the SMTIV fanfiction which exchanges the mainline's rather Dante's epic poems lore with Gnosticism - mainly because they were already using Gnosticism as the basis for Persona 5 (also general hackery).

It also makes Satan a part of YHVH, makes there be nearly infinite YHVHs, Satan is negro Squidward that got his hand caught in a door, the archangels are hellish abominations, and What'sHisFace from SMTIV is some kind of messianic figure that's even better than Aleph and Demifiend.

No, Nanashi exists in a bubble of stupid all its own and is utterly divorced from the actual SMT mainline story which ended almost anticlimactically with SMT3 Nocturne.

Or maybe Raidou Kuzunoha, since at least that game has a proper Louis Cypher (by another name).

Lucifer is a woman. No.
But it'd still be closer to a final installment of the mainline series than either SMTIV filth.

SMT is dead. Now there is only Persona anime garbage.

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I feel like he should kill himself after killing whoever designed him.

THE GAY COMMUNITY?!

Demifiend is overrated as fuck, Nanashi is either a faggot or a massive edgelord, YHVH is a narcissistic vindictive sociopath, Satan is nothing but a judging machine, Demons can be bros but most of the time they are assholes, Angels are always despicable, humanity either did nothing wrong or everything wrong depending on the route you take.


Use Alilat for support, Matador for phys attacks + pierce phys, and Inanna for magic attacks.
Fuck the YHVH fight, the Samurai are worthless and always, ALWAYS, buff yourself and debuff your enemies, unless you can OTKO them.

I wonder if your first image has a high res version. It looks so wild how he's just there riding the chaos. I love it, it's like the doom's cover.

pic related is the best I've found

It's the best I've found but there must be another version because you can tell it's cropped and the logo put there.

We are all aware Nocturne is much better than 4

But I enjoyed 4 gameplay wise. The tracks were also not bad for not being shoji meguro.

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His friends actually outleveled him years ago. Now he sits in some corner writing fanfic where he kills them.

I see so many people using Alice, Krishna and Inana or Shiva though. Why Alilat over Krishna?

I too loved the complete butchery of the press turn system, and the removal of defense as an intrinsic stat.
It made it so much cooler!

He can do so much better. But he can make any game good it's like Yuzo Koshiro so it's hardly an excuse to say the game isn't trash.

I agree with you that smirk was silly, but at least they balanced it in Apocalypse to be less broken. they even added Magaon/Smile Charge and made Hama/Mudo actually part of the meta.

Let's face it, Vit made the game to easy because everybody stacked mag/vit. they even reduced how powerful stats were and made mag less broken. 999 mag or 400 mag is a small difference. It's not like DDS were you get 99 mag early game and the game is a joke

Demifiend is most powerful SMT MC, second to Nanashi.

You're right it's not like you would be able to 1 shot YVHV if he wasn't damage gated, and the entire second half of the game is just 1 shotting bosses with OP as fuck smirk pierce skills

oh wait no it is

nice meme user, but you only get pierce on smirk skills on Severe Damage tier spells, which you get end-game.

You reach YVHV at level 85-90. Unless you grind you won't one-shot since there's level difference. He's 99

They changed the way mag works. Mag doesn't give you MP. even if by some reason you checked a guide or fused for an hour to get anything with early severe damage skills at level 75, which is still one-tier below final dungeon (cosmic egg) you wouldn't have the mana to sustain yourself unless you spend 220 App points in mana party recovery. Even then, your MP pool would be low for bosses.

Considering you get concentrate around level 75 as well, you're not 1shotting after second half of the game, you're one shotting at the near-end of the game.

At that's only if you're a cuck playing on normal difficulty. If you're not playing apocalypse mode of course the game is easy.

Neutral to everything, resists Light and Dark, gets Null Phys it doesn't really matter, though, Almighty affinity.
Krishna is weak against Dark, and you want to avoid giving Press Turns to bosses in Twisted Tokyo.
That's one less slot for skills.

Shiva is a worse Matador (Matador gets Andalucia), Inanna resists everything and does a fuckload of damage with Concentrate+Raging spells.

Thanks user. Time to fuse

don't you get stratagems that allow you to give affinity to your demons in twisted tokyo though? do affinities even matter at the end game?

Demifiend was normal kid who without showing emotion willed demons of the highest order to do his bidding and fights gods just standing there with demons who want to follow him. Lord Gemone even had something going for him and OPM had a comical work out that made him powerful but demifiend just was.

naw, go watch what are laughably called speedruns. They do that to fuck and back.
Basically the entire system is broken in half the second you get charge and smirk because there's.. a single boss that resists pierce and 2 that resist phys

Oh, a piece of advice.
SLAP ENDURING SOUL ON EVERYTHING, GET A FUCKLOAD OF BERSERKERS AND FUSE THEM.

(Checked.)
If you're willing to grind stratagems to get everything to +9, be my guest. However, you need to stack resists and avoid weaknessses.

She's pretty strong but Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him.
And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.

I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu.
I’m definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye’s spinach.
I’m talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye’s spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.

journeyman is stronker

That's a funny way to write Item Dispenser

nanashi and flynn are godslayers so they are very strong against gods and demons but a human should be able to kill them since their godslayer power wont really work on them

Demi-Nigger is basically SMT's Lone Wanderer. Why are people complaining that Law and Chaos are now equally shit instead Lucifer being a fan-fic of Paradise Lost Lucifer? Everyone said that DeSu1 is less of Chaosfag wankfest then the 8th day fucks it all up.

I dont mind that chaos is a false flag but what i dont like is that lucifer being apart of satan which is a retcon because both have existed at the same time in the past

Demonee-Ho is strongest. 100% success rate.

Biggest issue with 4 is how easy it is to steamroll the game, don't even need to know any autistic fusion chains for good abilities, just naturally playing the game you will get demons with amazing skills that you can 100% pass on to your next set of demons.

The SMT2 implies that Lucifer was part of God so reverse Piccolo. The original MT goes as far as making him a Messiah. Law and Chaos is basically Bethesda tier.

Rerolling until you get the abilities that you want has always been a pain in the ass. Just letting you choose was an improvement.

Pretty much the only thing that 4 really improved.

Where do I buy that wonderful statue?

Yes it has been a pain in the ass, and it is why it discouraged it because it got really annoying really fast. AND there was a limit to how many skills you can pass on. Now there is no limit and you can pass on any skills with 0 effort, which makes the game way, way easier.

With exception of shit like weapon or mouth skills (which aren't the big skills to pass on except shit like fog breath+war cry, but with how easy it is to get debilitate and then pass it on to every demon ever, those skills are also useless).

Like the heroes of SMT I and II he's at a disadvantage to someone like the demi-fiend because they can't learn demon skills, they are reliant on their equipment and their natural skills.

The advantage of making it easier is that you can do more complex things with fusion than before.

And immediately getting what you want is just better than wasting an hour and still not getting exactly what you want.

There are better ways to limit this than to make you waste your time. They just haven't done it yet.

SMT:SJ was more a throwback to the series' dungeon crawling roots. I really like the stat system of SMT:SJ. It is my second favorite stat system in an RPG.

Yes, which is where the issue of the game becoming to easy comes from. Because like I said due to the fusion changes, after a mere few early game fuses you can eliminate bad or meh skills entirely, and just pass on the same skills to your next round of demons for forever.

Atleast before with fusing skills you could potentially be fusing a pool of 20+ skills (with a sacrifice) onto a demon with like 2-3 slots open. So very quickly you would say fuck it, I want 2 or 3 of these 5 skills and I will call it good enough.

The demonica is the real strong one here. SJ's protag basically ends up powerful as fuck because he accumulates combat experience and his suit reacts accordingly. Now imagine Demifiend wearing a demonica.

journeyman could still beat him

At least he can get gun skills. Too bad he can't pick which ones to use and has to choose from a pack. SMT I and II's heroes couldn't even use skills at all but had to level up INT to avoid failing at every negotiation and MAG to increase their resistance (not that in mattered if you had a lot of HP) or in SMT II's case to beat Michael Jackson in the dancefloor

He seems to be the only protagonist that can fuse demons anywhere. If SMT x FE was a thing, I imagine his special ability is in battle demon fusions.

Apocalypse nerfed a lot of thins demons have affinities for certain skills so skills they are good with do more damage and have less cost while it not good to put skills on them that they arent good with. debilitate was also nerfed to have a ridiculous cost so you cant just spam it. many skills were nerfed and some buffed to only have effect when under smirk status like salvation. mp healing was nerfed so the highest amount of mp you can heal with an item is 150. the skills that do phys repel and magic repel were nerfed cause they have high cost and the enemy can cast skills to take away the effect

even Shiva's physical resistance was nerfed

Yo which one should i start with?

Like which game, sorry

Nocturne is considered the best if you just want gameplay.
If you want story go in order 1,2,3

4's self contained and is bad so don't bother

Nocturne (PS2), Strange Journey (DS) Digital Devil Saga (PS2) or Persona 2: Innocent Sin (PSX/PSP).

I don't remember ever leveling MAG in SMT for the hero. Like 75% of my stats went into VIT, 15% into LUK, and the last into INT. Just put him in the heaviest armor, give him a multitarget gun with status bullets, and let him facetank everything while you blast the enemies with electric magic. He'll never fucking die, and that's the best you can do with him since he's not going to have any fucking impact on any goddamned battle ever.

huh? im out of the loop here

Just got announced for the Switch. There's also another 3DS game coming out.

I truly hope they go back to dungeon crawling for the handhelds
set out to make a Strange journey that just looks nicer
its all I really want

you can see in apocalypse they kinda tried to impliment some more mechanics like the stupid knife thing so its not so open worlded but it just doesnt work as well in 3D, I want full grid dungeon crawling

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not to worry its not gonna be out for like fucking 3 years so by the time it is the switch will have a price drop or at the very least have a couple games

eeeeh, but it will still be a gimmicky piece of shit with a bad screen and horrible controls.

well yea but so was the DS when it first came out

Is this from a manga? Or is it just another porno comic?

can we just agree already that smt is a shit series for weaboos and a shit rpg with broken mechanincs that either make it stupidly unfair(hello there demon/beast eye/mudo/maha instakill out of nowere) or stupidly easy(smirk ;),apps, magatamas); with laughable simple philosophy and that it should have never got pass the snes era at most

Here's your (you)

Granted older SMTs are imbalanced but the game is still fast paced fun and the press turn system in nocturne/DDS is excellent

Debating SMT "canon" with games Okada had nothing to do with is a ridiculously dumb idea.

But if you really want to go there, Imagine had by far the most versatile protagonist who could probably beat anyone in a fight.


They labeled it "HD Project", so there's no plans to keep it exclusive to the Switch. At least not yet.

where is kaneko nowadays?
i cant find shit when i search him up nowadays.

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but is he working on any video games?

I wouldn't hold my breath, but if they're really looking to give SMT's 25th anniversary the respect it deserves, they may get him involved.

I would also guess he may lend Capcom a hand if they keep Dante's old Devil Trigger for the next DMC and/or MVC.

Doomguy is just an average soldier. That's why he's awesome, because he claws out of the scharzewelt while giving the finger to both angels and demons.
Unless you're a faggot and go Law or Chaos
But you wouldn't disappoint your superior officer, would you?

Why are Fatlus fans so cancerous?

Nocturne is good starting point if you aren't planning playing first two SMT games. For the most old SMT fags persona 2 was the starting point. For middle fags who started SMT fagging on cuckchan back in the days persona 4 was the starting point.

So its not really that terrible.

Is anybody playing Soul Hackers? I'm replaying it, it's my fourth time playing through it. I've played through all the other megami tensei games, but this one's my favorite (with the exception of Persona 3, which I dropped instantly, and Apocalypse, because I'm never giving Atlus money again now that they've turned everything into a casualized anime shitfest).

I'm putting all points into Luck for the protag, and distributing Nemissa's points evenly. I'm also playing with the difficulty raised to hard, first time I've done that. Wish I had done so sooner!
Someone had told me that the Finnegan encounter is the exact same fight regardless of whether or not you face him by yourself or with Nemissa's help. Total lie. He only summons five demons when you fight him with Nemissa, taking Nemissa along is the easy mode. Solo, he summons like goddamn 11, as soon as you kill one, he replaces it. That coupled with the fact that not many demons around that level have any healing skills made it for one fucking brutal fight, it was the most fun I've had in months. I had to retry five times. When I finally defeated him, he had killed every demon I had in stock and it was just him and I for nine turns. I think he would've beaten me again if it weren't for my stupid high Luck letting me dodge 95% of physical attacks.

this picture genuinely makes me want to kill myself. i get sick to my stomach when i see how big of a fanbase devil survivor 2 has.

Coming up at the end of my second P3 playthrough. Its been a blast. Who is best girl and why is it Yuko?

I never finished that shit weeb game. It bored me to tears by the time November kicks in. It's repetitive garbage and I'm not even talking about the girls. Dating Sims are cancer and in this case your choices are:
Garbage the lot of them. And Aigis can go fuck herself. She was a nice addition combat wise but she was more out of place than a dog wielding a kunai. I mean fucking girl cyborgs? Keep your shit fetish contained in games where it actually makes sense.

I dropped it when I realized it had a repetitive pattern

This is just as accurate as calling all japanese cartoons for "pedophilia"

What spell path of Nemissa did you pick.

I hate it because SMT4 and final were so shit that it's just the last bad taste it gives me.

Electric due to the fact it gives you Almighty skills later down the line.

Guess that was a silly thing to ask, if you've played the game through a few times then it is an obvious choice to pick electric for that reason.

>that feel when Arthur became human like
I wasn't ready for those levels of feels during that ending. Fuck SMT4 and the cancer it spawned. It just goes to prove that all 3rd party games go to die when they move to exclusively Nintendo. Feels real bad when smt3 was the last decent SMT game we have gotten.

no thanks.

user, why are you trying to ignore facts? Persona jumped the shark when they decided that demon negotiations were too hard and instead gave us a mini VN with dungeon crawling elements.
Try to defend P3P, I fucking dare you.

Who fucking cares

It's dogshit. Don't forget this time the gimmick SUPER HEROES. Oh boy if the american media didn't beat that to fucking death here comes japan thinking they could catch on to those coattails. The series is dead. I want some PC ports of 3 and SJ HD instead of new filth from fatlus, the queers behind persona.

No. Nanashi and Flynn beat YVHV. no one has beat YVHV.
Your only argument can be the demi fiend never had a chance to show his power level against YVHV
Your second argument can be Null:All
But either way Nanashi beat YVHV and that makes him canonically the strongest

You might as well say GT is cannon as well. Only time will tell if the smt4 cancer was so bad they had to recon the entire thing just like Dragonball had to.

DDS/DDS2 came after SMT3

It's canon whether you like it or not user.

It is, much like demi-kids is now canon thanks to SMT4. The hilarity of completely invalidating the other games canons is that it made all SMT games canon within the same timeline now. Yes absolutely all of them.

So much like how SMT4 is a flaming pile of shit that you should feel bad for paying for. Apoc made it canon when before it could just be written off as self contained shit.

Fuck, I just got done replaying SJ and replaying SMT3. I forgot about that series and now I feel like shit because of it.


I never said it wasn't cannon. I just said it's cannon for now. Japs love to recon shit if the jap fans hate it as well.

The hero of SMT II did the same thing, the only difference is that he didn't have the option to reinvent the universe and went the route similar to the bonds ending or whatever it is called in SMT IV: Apocalypse. Besides, YHVH isn't completely dead yet, Nanashi is still warned in the ending where he recreates the universe that messiahs from other worlds will come and try to take it back, it isn't too far fetched to say YHVH from other universes won't try and send fuckers against him.

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Wew lad!

How was what Aleph fought in SMT II just an avatar of YHVH?

Even if Aleph won against YVHV, he was cursed to suffer endlessly. It's implied he's the photographer guy in SMT3 and he's cursed to observe the world, like a man counting every grain of sand on the beach.

Either way Nanashi is god-empowered by dagda, pierce, lvl999, mag 999, he's stronger in both gameplay perspective and story-wise, given he can resurrect anytime thanks to Dagda while Aleph cannot


Face it,generic shonen power of friendship character is stronger than aleph

It's flat out stated in the TDE

I DID IT YOU FAGS
SINCE THE LAST ATLUS THREAD I BEAT DEMI FIEND
FUCK YOU YOU GAEA RAGING FAGGOT

Lucifer never says "It's Aleph!" he just says he's a cursed man. The player is putting 2 and 2 together, hence implied. Just because the game states something which can be linked to something else by theory doesn't mean it's a fact.

DDS Demifiend takes 40 fucking minutes. good job. I was too lazy to grind to 99 in the first DDS
Also technically you didn't beat him, he was just toying with you. If he ever finds you a threat (he sees you nulled an attack) he just gaea rages. On top of it all the track played is just his normal battle track. It's great

Congratulations, now you've just got to play DDS2 on hardest and you get a thing that I forget what it is

Dubs speak the truth. Thinking otherwise just leads to deviant art tier faggtory like the sonic fandom.

Found this post on wizardchan. Completely agree with it.

"I'm what you might call a megami tensei super fan, I've played just about everything Atlus has ever touched because nothing else fills the hole like they do. I've replayed the same shit three or four times, not even because I want to, but because I've tried other turn-based games and they were too easy. About the only thing else that's managed to come close is Wizardry 8 and some rogue-likes.

Anyway, as someone who's played all of the games, let me just say completely frankly and with no room for interpretation that the games have all been absolutely braindead as fuck, just as much so as Pokemon, since around 2009. The very last game they made with semblance a of depth was Devil Survivor, and I'd argue that the fucking abrasive as fuck anime/persona diarrhea that's shoved in your fucking face almost makes the great gameplay negligible.
And yes, I do realize that Strange Journey came out after Devil Survivor, and yes, I do think it's fucking Pokemon in terms of difficulty for anyone who's not a retard. I autobattled through boss fights for Christ's sake.
And to the guy who thought it was stupid that the games are critical of all three viewpoints: it didn't used to be that way till the normalfag invasion ruined everything. And I agree with you that it's terrible.
There used to be canon endings in which the writers were clearly biased towards, and if there was no obvious "canon" route, then at the very least all paths were agreeable to some capacity, but that's long gone and I think Strange Journey is the one where they really dropped the ball and made it most obvious that there is no winning with these guys anymore and they're just trying to be edgy. If they couldn't make it more obvious, they have the Chaos protag criticize the Law protag for her use of divine brainwashing, then does the exact same thing five minutes later. And normalfags who have played no other SMT's consider this good writing.

After Strange Journey, it was just a steep decline downwards. I'd recommend the series if you're one of those depressed wizards that oddly romanticizes shutting your brain off and practically playing non-games like Animal Crossing, like as if that's the "true" wizard way to be anti-intellectual and never stimulate your mind or body. Modern megami tensei is for you if that's the case! Shut your brain off and let the moe anime character archetypes take you away in a nonsensical psuedo-philosophical journey filled with battles impossible to lose!"

Amala Ring that boosts all stats by 10.

I ended up having my backups (Gale and Argilla) with Close Call on, and was careful to kill all his allies before a demon with dormina got summoned. That way I could Ragnarok and deploy, forcing him to
And then just deploying back Heat or Cielo.

I agree with it. SJ had its flaws, although it is still enjoyable and still intellectually stimulating if you go for it without any knowledge of the game. Remember, it's a DS game not a console game, and it was also a low budget project. You have to be fair when criticizing it.
I completely agree with him after that point though. Anything past SJ is anime/moe-shit. I'd say SJ is better than Desu because it has no anime moe shit.

But what he states is true. They need to go back to their roots. Fucking casuals.

I find that hilarious because of the series was such a Chaosfag wankfest. Don't forget that Kaido in DeSu1 essentially got a demon for crying about losing a handicap battle that was his idea in the first place.


Blaming Nintendo. Not Sega. Besides Persona started the normalfaggotry.

At least, SMT:SJ begrudgingly implied that the Neutral ending is the best.

SMT 2 was exclusive to the SNES before it was remade and megami tensei was NES exclusive.
It went with Sony and Sega during the PS era and PS2 era until it came back with the DS.

Hell,one can argue that still isn't exclusive because Purseowner are still Sony exclusives besides Persona Q.
Think before you post user.

Like all games?

Journey man is stronger by sheer willpower and determination

Why do that when you can be a fanboy?

I TOLD YOU SMT IV:A WAS THE BIGGEST, DUMBEST CANCER OF ALL SMT

I TOLD YOU THIS SEMI-GNOSTIC, ALL-STUPID TRIPE WAS THE FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN

THEY RAPED SMT TO DEATH! THEY RUINED THE LORE! THEY MURDERED THE AMALA UNIVERSE CANON!

SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI IS DEAD AND THESE TWO GAMES BUTCHERED IT ALIVE!

This is what SMT IV fans believe.


Well said, DubsAnon.

Son, let me tell you something about how broken Hitoshura is…

top fucking kek, this is what Nocturne babbies actually believe.
Persona is such an advanced form of terminal cancer it really isn't even cancer anymore, it's evolved into airborne ebola. Why? because at least cancer isn't fucking contagious. Now that Persona has thoroughly destroyed Atlus leaving nothing but a rotten bloated corpse in it's place, it's seeking out a new host. Now Persona cancer has infected Falcom too with the LoH's and Xanadu series suffering from all the telltale symptoms. Only time will tell if they can recover.

yhvh is dead in massacre. there is no more yhvh. nanashi is the new yhvh of his universe. massacre completely and utterly gets if rid of yhvh which is the whole point of going massacre. in bonds yhvh can come back but since he has been observed by humans he wont be as strong anymore.

user no, the


No way. I refuse to believe this. Cite the source.


THEY JUST DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH PERSONA 5! COME ON!

ARE YOU SERIOUS?
ARE YOU BLOODY SERIOUS MATE?!

Neo-Atlus is a maggot-filled husk

Please stop the anger is tearing through my flesh

what gets you mad? the fact tat he is the god of his universe or that what i said was wrong?

This is true, but even though SMT4 is essentially Patient 0 for mainline SMT it's still the jackass that caught the airborne ebola and decided to take a plane trip back to his country despite the damage he knew it would cause.

Persona is the source, but SMT4/A is the reason why mainline SMT is bleeding from its pores and filling its pants in seizure.

To be fair, Xanadu doesn't have the dating sim elements or theming of Persona. It doesn't look half bad, though I'm not used to a man using a chain-whip weapon in 3D before. Outside of Castlevania I only remember babes using that kind of weapon.

No, you're correct in regards to this cancerous fan fiction by Neo-Atlus but mainline SMT ended with either Nocturne or Strange Journey or Devil Survivor 1

I just don't want to think of it anymore.

do you agree that the final boss was fun and probably one of the better if not best atlus final bosses?

No
I couldn't have as much fun as I could have otherwise if they didn't savage the lore, insult the source, ruin potential and utterly rewrite EVERYTHING that had been established about YHVH and the Great Will.

Numerous games, man. Not just mainline SMT but classic SMT titles into the offshoots. Raidou Devil Summoner 2, Digital Devil Saga, etc. all had links back to the original mainline series. Each of them featured either the great manipulator Lucifer Louis Cypher Blond Boy/Man or they had allusions to YHVH or the Great Will.

People like to huff and puff about "muh fan theory" but the Amala Universe (basically a collection of "worlds" wherein each installment and game, even offshoots, are their own worlds with their own overruling main myths, and the Great Will overseas all of this as OUTSIDE of the Amala Universe and Lucifer can screw around in any world at any time for his own ends - so even he is not constrained by the rules) was pretty much established by Raidou 2, the re-re-rerelease of Nocturne with Raidou replacing Dante (makes more sense) and far earlier than that - DDS.

Then they know-nothing limp-pens come in and ruin everything. Why not make Devil Survivor a proper SMT mainline game? It has everything to be a proper successor to –
NOPE! WE NEED POWERRANGER FLYNN AND CO. AND WE'LL RAPE THE LORE AND SAVAGE THE AESTHETICS OF SMT BY USING MULTIPLE ARTISTS TO DO THE DEMON WORK
Okay, that was terrible. How about we do something new, maybe something like SMT-2 where
NOPE! FLYNN IS MESSIANIC AND ALL THE HEROES ARE MESSIAHS NOW!
what
AND THIS PUNK LESBIAN IS GOD AND GOD WAS ACTUALLY THE DEVIL/DEMIURGE CHIMERA THING!

Dude I'm roundabout sperging at this point I can't take it I'm so pissed.

I see your point.

Was Dante the one who was in Nocturne originally and they replaced him with Raidou, or was Raidou there originally and they replaced him with Dante?

I had thought it was the latter. Or that maybe it was a regional thing.

the original nocturne didnt even have the labyrinth of amala then they made an updated release with dante in it. devil summoner 2 came with a nocturne that had raidou in it, japan only

Oh. So it went Original -> Maniaxx/US Version -> Raidou/Japan version?

There's no other information about SMTV. The guy just confused SMTV with Persona V.

Yeah
Original → Maniaxx Featuring Dante (Japan/US) → Raidou Edition (Jap Only)


I hope so. I really don't need any more Persona molesting SMT, especially """"anti-hero"""" superhero shenanigans

SMTV is the super hero one for Switch.
Persona V is super hero too, but it's less cape shit and more dick tracy.

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Fucking sweet. I'll see if I can get it printed in gloss and frame it. Even if you negatively criticize the demifiend or don't like SMT3 you have to admit that image is badass. He's just standing there with that calm face arms up like he's surfing the demon hoards but a look closer shows he's being carried by the four horses of the Apocalypse.

Source please.
And don't say it's because of Odin's design.

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Source on what? Watch the fucking video.

user, why are you trying to embellish truth and create subtle lies?
Holy fuck no.

Emulation of p3p means you can fast forward battles, also Margaret's challenges are cool

Damn, the 3DS project is still unrevealed. They're really taking their fucking time.
What do you think it's going to be? I personally hope they're remaking one (or all) of the SFC games (again).
Although a Strange Journey 2 would also be nice.

That reveal trailer they had on the switch when they announced it as a new SMT project? Because there was nothing notable there. Was there another trailer?

What are the best games in the series to start with?

nocturne, digital devil saga, devil summoner raidou kuzanoha. persona games are good too but if you admit that you like that then people will tear your head off

Will SMT5 have a PC release? Will it let you play as a cute grill?


Masakoados Magatama only protects against the elements in Nocturne.

Nocturne or Digital Devil Saga on the PS2.

Strange Journey on the DS

And I'll even say Persona 3 although Persona 2 Innocent Sin is a better one in my books.

forced myself to play through it once. Actually fell asleep on multiple occasions from boredom. It had a few good parts but Tartarus ultimately is the only thing remotely fun about the game. If I want to jerk off to anime TIDDYS I browse tumblr

yukari best girl benis :DDDD

Did you even play the game? It does what it says on the tin: NULL ALL *except for Almighty

it doesnt null earth though since earth didnt exist in nocturne

Even if you try that, simple fact is that Null All means, literally, All.
Nuclear, Earth, etc. Nulled.
Only Almighty attacks are damaging.

Lucifer's BS attack Megidolidyne from Devil Survivor 1 would, if Demifiend wasn't amped enough, decimated him. Other than Almighty, Masakados is invulnerable.

Take it into any game at any time and the function would be the same: Null All.
Nanashi might be the best in his fanfiction game, and fair enough, but in the realm of SMT mainline - if we count gameplay resources as part of a character's power level - Masakados makes Demifiend indomitable.

But we don't typically count that since that's just "Naruto with rinnegan and thrice tailed jutsu with uber shingantensei" tier. Demifiend as he is in DDS is typically what is considered canonical, and though he's ludicrously OP there he's at least defeatable.

I can't imagine going after him with only one type of attack…

In some games Nuclear is a replacement for almighty.

in the dds boss fight he could only be hit by almighty and earth and this is the same boss fight that made masakados and the demi fiend canon. demi-fiend is null to all but that doesnt mean he is invincible because he can be damaged by someone that has pierce

Nanashi gets Pierce: All.

OH Well that shut me up. Nicely done, it's been too long since I tried him. Guess I was wrong.

I also forgot about pierce.

I guess Smirk could break the indomitable Demifiend.

In some games, Nuclear and Almighty coexist, P2 and P5.

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I'm just saying that the people that try to justify the fact that Demified is stronger than Nanashi because of Null: All are retarded.
And Nanashi can still Crit Smirk Demifiend to win.