Falcom Thread

The worst part about NISA "localizing" Ys VIII, is I can't recommend it to EOP friends anymore. Which is a damn shame, because it was my GOTY 2016.

I was going to, but decided against it. Something about starting the thread like that didn't appeal to me. Maybe it's because I don't feel the heartbreak, since I only just started playing Ys 1. I feel sorry for everyone, though.

Josep I know you're in here, you fag.

What?

XSEED spent years building up Ys in the US and now they get to watch NISA reap the harvest?

This is the literally being cucked. Not to mention that NISA is fuck it up undoubtedly. I suppose I'm not buying it anymore.

Yup, this is how Falcom thanks xseed for giving them brand recognition in the west.

For some reason this picture came to mind right away when I heard. XSEED is one of the few good localizers (Rockin' Android is okay I guess, I've played some of their stuff) in business, and it's really disappointing to hear about them being treated this way.

So is NISA going to brick my Vita now too?

They aren't happy about it at all. No one is.
I'll be importing the fucker. I will not be giving NISA any money.
Guess the only good thing to come of this is that we can continue to spread awareness of shit localizations by shit companies. But not like this. Not my Falcom.

it's OGRE

Reminder if you buy this you're literally a souless monster with shit taste, because NISA is incapable of translating without (((localizing))).

When this morning I've read that Ys VIII was getting a PC release I was fucking happy, then I've read that it was published and translated by NISA… fucking Christ.
I'm just going to pirate it, and it pisses me off immensely.
Hope that XSEED will get to publish something good later in the year.

Well, my id sure as fuck is accurate of how I feel inside now.

Now we know how liberals feel after trump won. I'm literally shaking right now.

It's probably safe to assume the worst case scenario: Trails is doomed.

If XSEED couldn't hold on to Ys, I don't see them having much chance with any other Falcom games.

Cold Steel III is next, and you know it.

I know, this shit put me into an autistic depression. I fucking went outside to cool off. I just sat in a snowbank and started drinking for 2 hours after the announcement.

If it's on PC at least I can pirate it. Although I won't like it when altina starts using dank memes.

You are willing to have the game and potentially more Falcom properties butchered just so you can pirate it?

If falcom betrays me by going with nisa, i'm not going to cave in and buy it, that'll just tell them that they made the right decision and continue to use them. It's a screwed if you do, screwed if you don't situation.

If you hate NISA releasing the game I strongly dislike it why not doing something like complaining to Falcom or at least complain to NISA that they mustn't fuck it up?

Also steam page is up

store.steampowered.com/app/579180

Wow, I had no idea people would be this devestated about Ys.

What on Earth makes you say that? Ys is one thing, but XSeed are the only localizers masochistic enough to touch Trails and it's massive fucking scripts.

This can't be fucking real

I have absolutely no intention of giving my money to NISA.

I've seen nothing but despair. Seems if you're deep enough to play Falcom games, you know to avoid NISA

If you're not devastated by this news, you never really liked the series in the first place.

As much as these posts reek of PR, Tom seems to imply that Kiseki games are safe for now.

I wouldn't abandon all hope just yet. Remember that Nisa had the whole Play, Doujin! catalogue to choose from (I think) and went with the two lowest hanging fruits, Gensuo no Rondo and Fushigi no Gensoukyou, instead of tackling the far more ambitious (and far less shit) Genius of Sappheiros. They might just deem it not profitable enough.

Still, what a disheartening turn of events. I come here like once per month to check on this thread; while it's probably not the worst turn of events regarding Ys 8 as a whole, it can hardly get worse localisation-wise.

oh boy its ogre, anyway there is no way in hell i will ever buy anything from NISA.

Wanna know ana ddition fun fact?

Kondo himself said that the future of the Ys series depends on how Lacrimosa will perform outside Japan.

Fuck

Gonna need a source on that one user

Check esterior.net or its twitter account. I think it was said there, since it translated a few questions from the shareholders meeting.

Fresh from the ovens

I rather the games never get localized again than have NISA touch them.

I can say with certainty if a company wanted to they'd cut the script hard to make sure they don't spend too much time on it. You know all the NPCs with side stories? Gone completely and will only have one line of dialogue through the whole game.

I wonder how falcom would react if people did that burn their products stuff, that otaku do when they get pissed off.

I mean, going to that extreme is really fucking dumb.

Trying my best to teach the people in floofy's extralife stream to not just blindly buy into Ys 8's "localization" is very difficult.
Enjoy is a stretch of a word when coming from NISA.
At varying degrees of quality, of course. I want quality and not quantity. I can wait longer if need be, I'm not a total slut who needs it all at once.
Madness, I tell you.

FUCK FUCK FUCK
why

What's something I can tweet to Falcom in japanese. I don't know nip but I want to tell them that NISA is shit and that the American fanbase of the Ys games fucking hate NISA.

That would require us to people to either A) buy it(stupid) or B) raid stores and then take pictures of it, which sounds idiotic and possibly self-incriminating. This doesn't go into the fact of how that sort of thing is completely insane.

Did you remember to show them what NISA has done to other games they've localized?

私はちんぽを吸うが大好き。

He's talking about Japanese fans burning and smashing brand memorabilia they already own. Figures, posters, books, DVDs, etc. Too bad all my Falcom stuff is digital.

What does that say?

I love to suck dick.

Very funny.

Oh, I misread as him suggesting we try that to see how they react. But yeah, I know how the Japs do, crazy, the whole lot of them.

But seriously though, How do I let them know?

It's already too late for Ys VIII.

That being said, Falcom has English speaking folks on staff. You should probably be fine pinging them in English. They even accept international orders through their online store, with English support.

That's good information. Maybe I'll order it from there with a note saying I'm playing in a language I can't understand because it's preferable to the hack job NISA will inevitably churn out.

We discussed this last thread. A PC release can NOT save you from NISA because they fuck up art assets during localization so bad that it's not always possible to mod the original back in. See: Criminal Girls, Ar Tonelico 2.

Just to play Devil's advocate here, there's Japanese text support listed for the PC release. He's probably safe on that front.

I stand by my thoughts that the PC version is the whole silver lining, here. NISA have been decent at worst with their PC ports so far.

Honestly, I think this is the best way to go. That way you prove "tangible" interest in their product while also making them aware of the situation.
I'll likely do the same; thanks for bringing this point up.

Also, I'd like to mention that most of Ys VIII's UI is already in English.

Wrew finally we'll get new Falcom releases on PC. Xseed didn't port anything, what clowns.

The Japanese text is indeed going to be a life saver for those who want to play the actual game instead of NISA's version, but if they alter art assets, like that one girl's sexy outfit, then that's something that's unlikely to ever get uncensored.

It's worth noting that the only games that NISA have overtly censored have been NIS properties. They've had text shenanigans, of course, but I'm personally not worried about them censoring Ys.

Also, I don't know why but I feel like dumping some Ys VIII screenshots about now.

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Tryin but they're just wavin it off.

Where were you when Ys got BLACKED?

Pretty sad I understand that Falcom is a company who makes games for money but Nisa. Hope Kiseki is safe.

I won't let them violate Renne and Tita.

A very good point, many localisers already do this. Treehouse is the most infamous one. And if you complain you're just a loser weeb who needs to learn Japanese.

At the end of the day normalfags outnumber us a thousand to one.

twitter.com/EritachTTV/status/833020250618810371

Might be of some help.

$150

ONE HUNDRED and FIFTY DOLLARS

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS?!

Sons of bitches KNOW I want that more than anything else! Dammit!

b-but muh statue is, like 100 dollarydoos. I seriously would just for the BLADE deck tho. That is if I weren't a shameless whore.

I feel really down about this whole thing.

On the one hand, i'd rather burn my own money than give even a cent to nisa.

But on the other, with what said, I feel I need to support this series if I want it to continue.

I said in the previous thread this timeline ain't too bad, and I still stand by that, but fuck me if it still doesn't contain its own fair share of kicks to the dick.

I'll probably be a massive faggot anyway and buy it, but only begrudgingly.

Isn't this what you guys always wanted?

If you just can't restrain yourself go for a preowned copy. I would really advise waiting a month after release and watch if anything happened to the game before declaring your purchase so soon.

I feel ya, but the future of Ys, and other Falcom games for that matter, probably depends on this game's success in the west.

On the flip side, if nothing else, nisa seems to have a larger reach than xseed, so maybe I won't have to worry about that.

No, actually we just wanted more. More.
No one wanted this.

No one. No one wanted any of this.

Yep, there are plenty of dipshits out there who don't know how bad NISA is and will buy out of ignorance. You personally shouldn't subject yourself to their hackjob while also paying them.

Hey guys what if NISA got the rights for the best ys game instead of XSEED haha it would be funny right

why did someone make a new thread

'Cause I must have missed the link. I deleted it.

Trying to nab my prize?

Why does Adol look like a total fucboi now, and not a seasoned grizzled veteran adventurer?

Why does Adol have to be some sort of extremely badass motherfucker outside of one's taste?

Since the very beginning Adol is supposed to be a kind and nice guy with a never-ending lust for adventure. Anything more than that it's just the game adding its own flavour.

Ys Seven is currently the latest title chronologically.

8 takes place 2 years before 7.

Y tho

There were three years between 5 and 6 so it's filling in the gap.

Ask other Japanese companies why they do that. My theory is that sometimes, they don't expect a game or series to be as popular as it gets, so when they want to move forward, they have to do something that helps fill in plot holes, so we end up getting interquels. the only issue is that we end up seeing the main characters end up with better stuff than what they had in older installments. In Ys' case, they tend to make remakes of older games which end up being more advanced than recent installments (for the most part).

Estelle has Cassius Bright for a father, an uncanny magnetism and understanding of other people, and is possibly a Demi-Goddess.

Rean has prodigal blade skills, a dark power that that pushes him beyond his normal physical limits, and a mecha.

Lloyd has a dead brother.

What else does Lloyd have?

Well, his harem powers are on a similar level to Rean's, though I still think Rean has the edge there.

Okay, i can understand why people like YS or Xanadu, they have action to make up with terribly generic setting, but why the fuck you are into Legend of Heroes and Trails series? Those games are boring as fuck.

The writing. The combat is pretty great for a TBJRPG. Admittedly they can be slow to get going, but it's to really build up the world, which is great and really feels like a living evolving world thanks to an abundance of detail and NPC dialogue, and make you care about it before shit hits the fan. And when it picks up, it's great especially thanks to the base set. I know I too hate the "Oh yeah it gets good like 12 hours in", but I feel like what comes before is comfy, not that big of a slog.

Trails is on no one's schedule but its own. It's true, people with short attention spans will be turned off, but those people who like world building and pure lore and continuity porn, Trails has no equal in video games. Most of us have no problem when the game takes things slow because we find the whole world interesting. When you look forward to seeing what even non-critical NPCs will be doing next chapter it's a safe bet the game isn't going to bore you. And the fact that we get this invested means that when shit does go down, it's 1000x more effective in another game when it hits the fan. The games are deliberately paced, but you have to be willing to go at that pace.

I can ask the same. I can assume you like neptunia, but your picture may just be coincidental. Trails nails it in making you give two shits about the world you are in and not just the main party. You care what happens to Liberl at the end of SC because you've been helping people out for upwards of 100 hours across both games. I found myself caring about who got elected in Ruan after the incident. I found myself caring if Bose was going to be annihilated by the dragon. I cared about what happened in Zeiss. Coldsteel I found myself caring about Trista since that was effectively my home for hours. I was infuriated by the events that led to the incident in Celdic and the incident itself. If a game can illicit these strong feelings, I can proudly say that the game wormed it's way into my heart.

I love how Falcom wasn't afraid to give the protag's of Sky and Zero/Azure something that wasn't a basic bitch sword. Don't get me wrong, it fits Rean as a character, but I'd like to see more less common weapons being used. Yunica using an Axe made my dick diamonds when playing Origins and Adol is from a time in which swords were the staple, I can imagine what would happen if they gave the next protag a pair of Katars or, hell, Chakram.

My biggest problem is how everyone dresses in Ys 8, I get there was a change in character designers, but still
So Falcom is trying to tell me that everyone wore standard 90's fantasy garbs and armors in all Ys games leading up to V with the exception of MoC, only for everyone to dress like modern JRPG characters in 8, and then to go back to being dressed like regular fantasy characters in 6 and Seven? Shit's confusing.

I may have been mistaken, but I thought Dana's piercing form used katars.

Haven't played Ys 8 so I wouldn't know. Thanks to NISA, I might never find out.

I also thought her Style Change was PS4 version only, meaning no one has. It was previews I was looking at. I thought she was using Katars, but it might have been dual daggers.

-Sean Chiplock

He also said that the Orbal Bike was best waifu, because it didn't require any liking before it let you ride it.

First girl rule, every time.

Sean seems like a cool guy. He knows Alisa is shit which makes him cool in my books.

Just dont read his twitter if you want to keep that feeling, fam.

More like best slut, since it lets you double team with with whoever you like.

That shit pisses me off so fucking much you wouldn't believe. Sadly the only example I can think of is some sports/romance anime called Suzuka I watched years ago, probably just because it pissed me off that much.

Even his AMA shows him as kind of a mixed bag. Doesn't mean you can't appreciate his points.

I saw Sean say his favorite was Millium because she reminded him of his fiancee. smh

Oh my.

A reminder there's now weeb vidya to talk jap games without normlafags >>>/wv/

Jesus Christ. Thank fuck fore Emma and Fie's evasion

I think this is the best approach.

Within a week, people will know how shat on Ys VIII is.

After that, if they did well (all of my fingers are fucking crossed. All my toes. I'm crossing my dick and my balls too), then you can pick it up. Otherwise just pick it up pre-owned or get it from a Steam sale if you still want to support.

If it's really bad, gotta pirate.

You cocky fucker.

I still get flashbacks.

First phase killed me 7 times, second phase 13. I fully admit to fouling through the game and having no idea what the fuck I was doing. I'm much better now though.

I really regretted neglecting some of my party when that fight came. I had focused pretty much entirely on Laura, Fie, Emma and Sara before that point, so everyone else was under-leveled and had shitty quartz set ups. I clutched it somehow.

Waiting a week seems fair enough, though we'll probably have enough evidence before it's even officially released.

By the way, anyone tried contacting Falcom about this? If nothing else, it's possible we could get them to hold nisa's feet to the fire for their localisation.

A real American hero should just go set fire to their offices. Falcom demands sacrifice, and burning NISA to ashes is the best option.

Same issue. My last save was over an hour later and I HATE when I lose that degree of progress. Though I do appreciate what they were going for. I always dislike when big bosses show up and everyone in the party rushes in and then half of them disappear for the fight. But due to the amount of customization and the way Arts work, it's fucking expensive and needlessly time consuming to try to keep everyone up to snuff all the time.

That's a situation where the outcome is too unpredictable to be worth it. It doesn't mean XSeed would get loc rights back, they could give it to 8-4, or another company. Not to mention that XSeed could refuse to localize on principle if they believed that doing would be giving the person who burned NISA what they want. They're upset, but their conscience probably wouldn't tolerate it. There's other things, and I know you're being facetious, but you never know what kind of madman browses imageboards.

One user sent a tweet in mildly mangled Jap. Another user said English could be fine for e-mail, considering their interest in bringing the game westward. Hearing that their choice of localizer is questionable from enough people could raise some flags. Just be sure to send evidence along with it. Easy to read evidence.

Some have said the future of YS could depend on how 8 does in the West. Surely they don't mean the series as a whole, right? From what I hear, YS is very popular in Japan.>I had focused pretty much entirely on Laura, Fie, Emma and Sara before that point, so everyone else was under-leveled and had shitty quartz set ups.

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How difficult is ys 8 to navigate with no rune knowledge? I can't seem to find an english guide anywhere.

Brown Dana looks so good

This is a game you really want to know what's going on.

But there IS a chance that they will, and no matter how small that chance may be, it's far better to have that chance than to have NISA.
Would anyone outside of here even realize the motive? One little seemingly random act of arson that burns a few weebs is hardly front page material.
And the best part is, that NISA will never touch any game ever again.
I know you want to, user.

Uhm Millium is what, 12-13? Where is it legal to hit that? For research.

Burch voiced Millium

I like her personality but she's nowhere near waifuable range. Burch brought her down even further.

Alisa is the worst romance, but I think Millium is the worst girl.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about the people behind the games? To this day I have no idea what the CFO of Falcom's stance is on comfort women in Korea during WW2 and I don't want to know. People always disappoint: the less you know about them the better.

There's nothing wrong with not caring. I just posted it to show that he and a good deal of others have something in common that I find funny. I would've posted his opinion on the VA industry, but that's not related to the thread.

Apparently some areas of Japan have an age of consent as low as 12-13, but apparently there's more to it than that.

I hated Millium at first, but grew to like her in CS II, which is something that occurred with a lot of characters(the growing to like them more in CS II part and not the initial hate, exactly). I think Burch is fine in this. Her usual problem is a wooden performance(Rise) or cunty and displeasing to the ears(Cassandra Cage), and her performance as Millium is neither of those. Depending on your opinion of her pitched up voice, which in my opinion is her best shown with Millium and Rei.

I do like all the girls in CS, it's just that I think characters like Millium are at the bottom.

Though I personally don't like Burch as a person and hearing her voice grates on me.

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Hmm. That's usually something I might do on the second playthrough, where I'll just plug in my headphones to the PC instead of the console.

My thing with her doing child voices is that you can have a child and not have it sound like theyre ramming a pipe into your ear which that is her every child role. I just dont think she is a good VA at all and brings down the people around her

missing out, tbh

Then you would be missing out on the games ost.

I don't make the charts. Would you like to make a chart?

The X68000 always got the best ports of games. Hell, there are X68000 arcade ports that are better than the arcade versions. For example, the port of Bosconian has a soundtrack with a few tracks composed by Yuzo Koshiro.

I'm considering just saying fuck it and ordering the jap version of Ys VIII and playing through the game with a translation app. It will probably be more accurate than the actual localization that way

I already heard it on my first playthrough. And I'll usually have the ost on my PC.

No it's fine everyone has their hobbies, I see a lot of it in anime: this personality cult about voice actors and directors and what not. I guess I'm just too autistic to relate/care.

Don't get it from Play-Asia. They're charging $75 after that promotion going around, and you can get it cheaper AND faster from Amazon.co.jp.

I just checked, and amazon has it for around 6200 yen (~$55) after shipping, and their shipping is equivalent to EMS.

Don't get it from Play-Asia.

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No. For 90% of the time the dialog is fine, if a bit awkward. It's just that the other 10% can range from having really bad grammar to the text spilling out of the text boxes, but even then it's always easy to understand what's going on. For officially released games from the mid 2000s they're unacceptable, but if you've spent a good amount time with fan translated games, you've probably played much worse. Here's a video of the section of LoH III where the translation is the most noticeably bad(or at least that's how it seemed to me. Maybe I just got used to it later in the game), to give you an idea of whether or not you can handle it.

This is more like a Visual Novel with gameplay attached to it. And since I am not an employee of IGN, that is not a bad thing.

The Trails series has more dialogue then basically any RPG series ever, by about threefold.

The music is pretty much ruined, the gameplay is worse, the visual are sad compared to what falcom was running at the time, and the translation sucks. They basically made the same game but you couldn't have fun playing it.

Looking back at the time it would have been a good idea to get Hudson to port it since they did a great job porting Falcom games for the PCE and I don't think they were bought by Konami yet.

Trails is very, VERY dialogue heavy. To the point where almost every NPC has a story that develops as the game goes on. There is a lot of dialogue explaining the world, each NPC has their own plotline/dilemma, etc

I decided to pirate the jap vita version, don't worry.

Federal AoC is 13 but the actual lowest AoC is 16 because prefectures set their own AoC, i'm not too sure why the government one is so low, I think it's just so if a prefecture wanted to that could theoretically go as low as 13.

Alright then, if you just want to play it that's fine. I hope you enjoy it, user.

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Don't forget YS 8 importers you need to share that CS3 art book.

Please no

I already got a knife in the heart from the announcement, don't twist it.

I'll be sure to take pictures.

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Rixia Mao got added to Akatsuki no Kiseki

I want to see her butt on PS4 in CS3

Falcom games on sale at GOG

gog.com/promo/20170220_weekly_sale_kawaii_sale

It'd be too fat. Your PS4 wouldn't be able to process the amount of ass she has.

I will gladly sacrifice my PS4 to see it.

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What is he, gay?

Off topic, but have any anons here played it? Is it any good? Is it Dangan-type crazy, or does it play itself more seriously? Or is it something else entirely?

If you like watching school kids being brutally dismembered and pulverized into hamburger and/or going insane, sure.

He does. There's even dialogue about it in the game.

Lloyd isn't known as the best pussyslayer in Trails for being gay, user. Also this

What? Then party order matters to trigger it?

I don't think it matters. Then again, I was mostly running around with Rixia as leader, though I don't think that's how Vent Active Voice works.

So I've played Oath in Felghana and now I'm playing through Memories of Celceta and wanted more games like those. I was thinking maybe the Xanadu games how similar are they to those 2 Ys games? I also eventually wanna go through and just play all the other Ys games and was wondering what is the best way to play YS I&II.

It doesn't matter, it only happens when you enter a certain vent. Lloyd is about to tell her then decides to keep it to himself.

Why the fuck is NISA still in business? Every time they "localized" any game they touch it, for most of the time, bombs. Can someone please explain this bullshit?

NISA is a jewish invention designed to make sure any games that might succeed without a jew corporation backing them that will jew the content for them will instead fail.

NISA is the american arm of NISJ so they can just ask for a giant inflated budget when they put out NISJ's games to cover their losses. They also buyout a bunch of distribution rights for other people's games. Like NISA distributes all of Atlus' stuff in Europe now or they did until recently I can't remember.

I know P5 is being distibuted by Deep Silver, and I think Cold Steel has NISA distribute it anywhere that isn't NA. I vaguely remember an user seeing it on PSN and posting it many threads ago.

Sounds more like guro than fun. No thanks.

But NISA has a track record of releasing games with game-breaking bugs that weren't in the Japanese versions. Why are companies still risking the western versions of their games being rendered unplayable? Are they cheaper than other localizers or something?

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From what I've seen, NISA can apparently get away with doing it cheaper than others and guarantee being able to do it faster. I also don't think most Jap companies care about the West as more than a periphery demographic or at the very most, a second chance in case the game bombs in Japan for whatever reason, similar to American movies and Chinese audiences. Apparently the West is what gave Bayonetta a sequel, but that's hearsay.

Yeah that sounds right I think Atlus dumped NISA and are now having Deep Silver distribute all their European stuff because NISA was incompetent and kept taking at least a year from the NA release to get games out in Europe. I can see NISA putting out XSEEDS stuff in Europe as well in fact just today I was shopping for a physical release of Celceta and the european one had NISA's name on it.

I honestly don't think most japanese companies actually care about the quality of the work or even take into account that a localization can effect sales. I mean think about it most of the time when a game does poorly in the West they just stop localizing it completely how often do they switch? At least since NISA got YSVIII because they undercut XSEED I doubt they'll have the budget to censor any assets. It also might result in less editorial on the script unfortunately it will increase the chances of game or machine breaking bugs.

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My fucking dick.

I'M FUCKING READY.

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Is Chloe an 8 Leaves practitioner?

Nice.

That huge ass CS3 party choice by the end of the game doesn't feel as far-fetched as it used to.

She's from Ruan and dropped out of Jenis to become a Bracer. I'm not sure where she would've learned it from. 8L1B is still a young school and it's practitioners are treated as rare finds.

Y'know, if you think about it, Joshua was the harem protagonist of Sky, and we just ended up playing the route of the red-headed twintailed childhood friend/not blood related sibling from her perspective.

He made panties wet but he was always going to be faithful to Estelle.

She is self-taught, from what I hear. Her style is unique. That said, she is hinted to have have a bit of past we don't know about yet.

Yep, those other two Stahlritter Knights and Duvalie are in Ao as well. You fight them before you fight Arianrhod.

Randy flirts with Duavlie and it throws her off her speech.

Of course he was, Estelle was best girl and the canon girl the writers wanted you to get with, since she had the most scenes. Plus like I said, Joshua is playing her route.

Do they have names? Their lack of visible eyes cause me to doubt.

Ennea and Ines. From what I understand they have far less…personality than Duvalie does.

I'm not one to complain about boob-plate, but damn is that some next-tier boob-plate ridiculousness. I mean, shit, just look at it!

Just looks like a Stahlritter thing to me.

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Like father, like son?

What are you implying?

By the way, I'm playing CS 2 again, and apparently, there's different scenarios. You can either go straight to the mine, or to the Schwarz Drache Barrier first. I'm shocked, and wondering if I missed anything else like that.

Although I wouldn't care if she wasn't waifuable. Just give me Claire, Laura, Sara, Fie and Emma and I'll be fine

Also looking forward to see if any of those new girls are waifuable, like this one, especially.

Unless Arianrhod leaves the society, or Rean joins Ouroboros, and possibly the Stahlritter, that can't happen without breaking Duvalie's devotion to her lady. Or maybe Arianrhod could kick her out or order her to join them for whatever reason.

The reward is AP and being able to talk to Margarita early.

Wasn't there supposed to be a CSIII story in Dengeki Playstation this week? Where could I find the scans of that?

According to the moderate but of googling I did, not a thing has bed. Uploaded about it if there were. It's 633 or something right? Apparently they're re-releasing Danganronpa as 1.2 with 1, 2, and ADG, apparently.

This is why I got that info from, fyi.

I'm not seeing anything from beyond Dec. 20th, but I can't read this shit. So either it hasn't been uploaded yet, or there isn't any. I searched "閃の軌跡3 電撃", for reference.

Well the kanji for it is definitely in that blurb, but I'm not seeing anything either, and people are usually pretty prompt with that shit, so it's likely there was nothing. Sad.

Anyone have that image everything NISA fucked up?

That it is, perhaps it's a preview for the next issue.
TL;DR Ouroboros is planning a revival, The Grandmaster is likely not Cassius, and Osbourne possibly has the Time Sept-Terrion and used it to revive himself.

And since now's as good a time as any to talk about it, so far we've had the Gospel Plan, The Phantasmal Blaze Plan, and we know that these are merely steps toward the Orpheus Final Plan. Unless they intend to take the word Orpheus and change its meaning, this overall plan is intended to be a ressurection of some kind. CS II spent some time setting up Ressurection related plots, with Osbourne and whether or not he was, Zephyr trying to redirect their Boss, and, in my opinion, I feel they're setting up to revive Crow in some manner, even if only temporarily. I need to wait for the 3rd to be sure I fully understand the Gospel Plan, and from what I've gathered, the Phantasmal Blaze hasn't been fully explained yet, so we need to wait for CS III.

The question is what would Ouroboros be trying to ressurect. Some of the members seem to have backstories that would display a desire for ressurecting someone(Walter and his Master, Luciola and Mr. Harvey, Loewe and Karin), but I don't think that's quite it. It could be Aidios. This seems to conflict with the theory that Aidios is the Grandmaster, but we have no idea what exactly the Grandmaster is or looks like, so it is possible that they live a partial existence, and are seeking to become whole again.

If I didn't know better, I'd think it was all just Cassius trying to bring his wife back, but that would just be insane. Also, if Osbourne did ressurect himselfi assume he did it with the Time Sept-Terrion.

Someone with the magazine just confirmed there's no Sen 3 in it. So I have no idea what that ad was about. Maybe just a mistake.

AMA with Tom on GOG forums at 6:00pm UTC. Which may have been half an hour ago.

gog.com/forum/general/xseed_interview_bringing_japanese_games_to_the_west_fb8fd

It started half an hour ago. Still going. Tom is the Loc Producer of XSeed, by the way.

Page three of that AMA and a wall of text appears with a faggot whining about lewd things in jap media. Can't get away from these fucks.

I have a gog account that I never use

Anything you want me to ask?

I took a skim and that fag's a full SJWeeb.

Trails the Third update. Try asking if he can say anything about SnK 3, even just their thought on it, if they're excited, If they're full of dread.

Thanks, user.

AMA over. Please return to you regularly scheduled programming.

I've been busy all morning. Did anything interesting come of it?

Tom's full anti-DRM, Senran Kagura is not in the foreseeable future, XSeed always tries to get Jap, sometimes it works, sometimes contracts fuck them, a little bit of business, and Trails the 3rd news on March 10th. Go to Facebook page for more constant updates.

That's what I got out of it anyway.

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Wasn't the question about Senran whether it'd be on GoG or not?

Shh, I'm encouraging him to read.

And posting this.

Didn't this game already come out in 2006?

gog.com/news/xseed_interview_bringing_japanese_games_to_the_west

this was on GOG before the AMA

Whoever makes the OPs seems to misunderstand news a lot :^) It's delayed on vita only. It's been out for PC for years and is out on PS4 now. (with the blood censored for whatever reason)

What was the final word on the first image? "Still Rean?"

Because for some reason, now I start to think of it as Rean going turncoat, and trading his Ironblood colors for a Crow theme. That he's going to revive the ILF with Class VII.

Whoever that character is has an orbal gun, so I don't think it's Rean.

I think we found out that the back of the coat was different, so it's not Rean.

Definitely not Rean, so I was right.

What makes you think it's an Orbal gun?

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Xanadu is a slower, more diablo-like approach. I've only played Next, but Next was really good regardless and I'd recommend it.
Origin is a lot like Felghana but with three different characters all with various bosses, playstyles and upgrades. It's really, REALLY damn good. Ark of Nephatism is on the other side of Felghana, which is to say it's the predecessor and in my opinion not as good, but still worth a playthrough.
For Ys I & II I suggest either Chronicles or Books(the PCengine ports) but they aren't the OiF combat system.

By the way, how's Celceta?

It plays like a slower 7. Too much plot.

I haven't played 7 either

So how are the Ys anime adaptations? Are they at least watchable?

If they're anything like the Trails in the Sky OVAs, no.

The hotsprings scene and this gif were the only good things about the Sky OVAs.

I want to suck Kloe's tits

I want to share a nice bath with Kloe and wash her back.

I want to kick Estelle right in her stomach.

fug er rite in da bagina!

I want to lovingly fuck Estelle while Joshua watches

NTR is never ok; feel ashamed.

There is only one cure for NTR

Is that it? tineye only brings up the same image on other boards.

No there is a whole comic, forget the name but it is Chinese.

That does sort of look like the gun in his right hand.

Well fuck it might as well be Crow at this point. I was hoping they weren't going to bullshit his death, but I guess we're past that. I'll see how they handle it all before passing final judgement.

exhentai.org/g/628602/25efdc9d66/
caution:gay

can you at least drop a name because i'm not downloading the thing or whatever to get past the crying panda.

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San Se Fang - Wang Er-Xi ― Night Stories from a Chinese Studio

my dick thanks.

you lost or something?

are you? Holla Forums is hetero fuckboy

Holla Forums as a whole is at most vaguely bisexual on weekends, don't kid yourself.

Yeah it was me, I was contemplating about buying it digitally with a big discount and giving money to nisa or not getting it at all/importing. In the end I've got Tits SC.

It'll probably be like how Zephyr is resurrecting their boss, or how Osborne survived

It's already confirmed that Erebonia has two Sept-Terrions. We know one controls the system that runs the Divine Knights (with Witches and Gnomes and all that) and the other is probably tied with resurrection. Makes you wonder how many people might get brought back. The prospect of resurrection has been in play since The 3rd. It's one of the reasons they hit Weissman with the Pillar of Salt. They didn't want to take any chances of him coming back.

NISA can't do their "localization" shit forever. There has to be a point where both NISA & NISJ are at the verge of bankruptcy because NISA fucks up too much with their shitty "localization" and NISJ can't give them anymore money because of said verge of bankruptcy.

For a moment I swear I thought I was in the wrong thread. This shit is no Falcom.

Got "The Ashen Chevalier" today. Doubt I'll try going for the first CS's platinum trophy, since my PSNow is starting to wind down, and I'm not sure how much else I want to play on it.

So, anyone have substantial thoughts on the latest release of Ys: Origin, and whether or not I should get it again?

I liked how Osbourne survived. It drove home that no matter how hard Crow tries he'll never beat Osbourne. I was hoping that instead of using resurrection, they'd do the sane thing and give him some kind of bulletproof jacket. Considering he knew the risks of going out in public and everything. It shouldn't have mattered if, prior, he believed that C and the rest were dead there was still a massive movement going on that could not have been easily taken care of. Precautions still should have been taken, imo. The outcome for 2 would be the same with Rean taking on that revenge for Crow while being locked in with Osbourne, but now that there's the prospect of Crow coming back, it's sucking a lot of enjoyment out of the story for me. but we'll see how this all pans out.

So I watched a few gameplay videos of that Tokyo Xanadu game that's coming out this year. Am I the only one who thinks it looks like it plays like the .hack series?

Maybe he already knew how to resurrect, that WAS his bulletproof jacket. He probably already had it all planned out. Down to Jade Rook

15 hours left to buy the games on GOG

What the other user said, maybe there was a reason he wanted or needed to be ressurected, and a public execution helped his plans along. We can only speculate, since we're not even sure if he ressurected at all. Hell, we don't even know if anyone WILL be ressurected. It's still only hypothetical, though the creation of the Salt Bolt does imply possibility, it could also just be a pre-caution. Crow could just be a ghost that haunts Rean worse than V's death did. Zephyr are only looking for a way, they haven't found one. I could see a theme of "letting go" arise from this.

NIS used to make good(ish) games that were then anally devastated in localization by the US subsidary of NIS, NISA. Then they apparently tried to pull some fuckery with overwork/firing and rehiring their vet devs at reduced cost and denying them a pay increase they were supposed to get (rumors from 2ch that appeared to be substantiated when the entire Disgaea team left NIS). Those people jumped ship to IF/CH and NIS lost the people who actually made the decent NIS games.
I can only assume NIS, in a fit of rage, dumped a bunch of money into NISA to fuck up as many localizations as possible assuming they could do so and come out ahead due to the growing
crowd that has recently grown to retard strength proportions.
Sadly not really NIS didn't realize that this crowd, while significantly larger than actual fans (read as "people who actually buy video games"), doesn't actually buy games after they require they be censored to shit in "localization".
The remaining issue, one that is most likely keeping NISA, and by extention NIS alive, is that a lot of Nip companies release their physical collector's editions through NISA in the west because most of them don't give a shit about markets outside of Japan and they see that as free money because the people who do buy collectors editions tend to not want to "miss out" just to make a statement.
Falcom is probably partnering with NISA because they presumably got a deal that offered several times the speed a smaller company like XSEED could reliably pump out due to the staff size and projects they already have. Falcom doesn't give a shit because they don't care what Non-Japanese markets want or think, they only see
If and when the game fails they will just blame it on "The West" not wanting the series and stop licensing them for release in English again for a few years and then get bitchy when people have to "pirate" their games to play them and the cycle repeats because, again, Nips don't care about Non-Nips.

sage for massive OT text wall

The amount of vapid cunts I saw that said "I don't care of the localization is bad, once we get dual audio"

I would take HORRID English voice acting and superb localization with zero censorship over the opposite any day.

Realistically a lot of localization companies hire the shittiest ("cheapest") VAs they can find because they want to pretend people want the game in English with voice work rather than wanting a game with accurately translated Nipspeak. By hiring horrid VAs on the cheap they save money and pretend a lot more effort went into the game than actually did. They can claim they didn't get the license for the Nip voices but I'd rather have no voices and actual effort put into text than have to deal with the same tired forty year old smoker voice play a little girl for the three thousandth time.
The Anime industry has the same problem, they tend to hire people that put literally no effort into their work, don't fit the fucking character at all, and/or do the same fucking voice over and over before cutting the content in stupid ways. Then they wonder why they don't sell anything or people dislike their "work" after they've cut it to pieces and changed the actual intent of the line thirty times.

Secondary contractors can NOT operate Divine Knights, but can board them with the Awakener.

New extremely blurry image from a magazine. No idea what the magazine actually says. I'm getting…concerned about the number of new characters we're seeing, though.

Damn, who's the guy on the right. Could be the one in the image that we speculate about.

Also cute green girl is always cute, no matter how blurry she is.

I can't tell if he has a uniform jacket like the other students or if he's supposed to be someone else. The picture is too blurry.

Looking again, the shoulder pads don't match up with the coat the guy opposite Rean is wearing. So if that is him, it's him wearing a different outfit. Sadly, it looks like he's another Class VII newbie to me, which with Tonfa-girl, Green-hair, Altina and Sword-Boy makes five. I'm getting increasingly concerned this game is going to just be about a new Class VII and will shaft the older characters.

I really, really don't want them to go back to the school formula. I was fine with it once. But now I want to finish the story of those characters and Erebonia. I don't want follow another group of young kids out of their depth who keep getting rescued.

Guy on the right panel looks like Roxas, but that'll probably go away when the image clears. Probably an Enforcer.

I think if we do, it'll only be once with Rean in the role of the savior. I highly doubt the older characters will get the shaft for the new guys(or specifically a new set of teenagers with attitude, like what MKX kind of did). There's already a lot of ground that's been covered, and they still have a lot of character loose ends to tie up. If anything, the kids may be setting up the future Calvard storyline to back to.

Plus, their class is small anyway, with Tonfa, Dual Wield, Green Hair, and Altina. They can't soak too much.

I don't mind if it's a class, especially if Rean is a teacher or similar.

I also don't mind that we're getting new characters. The story of Class 7 is pretty much over, they just have a few loose ends to tie up (I'm mainly thinking of Fie/Zephyr, and Emma/Witch things, others are more personal [Alisa, Jusis] or they don't have loose ends [Laura, Sara, Gaius, Machias, Elliot]).

Basically at the end of CS2 most of Class 7's stories are over but Rean's continues, and he has new people in his life. So if most of them do end up coming back, I won't mind if they don't have such a huge spotlight.

Laura's isn't done. She still has the Sandlot/Arianrhod stuff.

Oh yeah, that's true. I wonder how that'll come into play.

I still think she's her mom.

I hope we get to see Sharon interacting with Joshua and Renne, with Estelle and worst-girl having a nice girl-talk about pulling their loved ones out of dark places.

If there is stuff to be had. I think she and Duvalie definitely need a duel before I'd say her story is over. Then there's that S. And her mother, who's suspiciously gone unmentioned when pretty much everyone else has confirmed status.

Gaius' story doesn't really end because he still hasn't found a way to keep his homeland safe from the affairs that go on outside of it. Nord could still easily become a battlefield between powers. Elliot's going to music school, and is accepted by his father, so his story was done by the end of CS1. Machias I can see trying to enter the government. He's seen that not all nobles are elitist pieces of shit and that he can get along and be friends with them, but whether that works out for him isn't that big in the grand scheme. Sara is more character revelation than development. And there's still plenty we don't yet, but she can stop anytime. Millium is developing her negative spectrum of emotions with the end of CS2 being the first time she ever cries, but that's also mostly a personal plot. And Crow's story is pretty much done, even though it ended in failure. Scarlett's still around though, so she'll probably try to kill Osbourne again.

gematsu.com/2017/02/ys-viii-ps4-japanese-box-art-teases-new-character

Man, if NISA fucks this up, it's going to hurt.

There's at least ten things wrong with box art's composition, and I don't know where to start.

I do wonder who mystery girl is, tho.

The power creep in CS2 is a bit retarded. Rufus can't just be a genius strategist, he's also a total badass. Most of the secondary characters are like this and it becomes fucking absurd in the finale when every character you beat is holding back or has some hidden power. Can any moon speakers confirm whether this escalation started in the Crossbell Arc or if it's new to Kiseki?

I believe you fought Campanella and Arianrhod in Ao and didn't even need to win those fights, just to demonstrate how powerful they are.

That shit pretty much started in TiTs didn't it? I mean pretty much all of ouroboros are OP and always "let you win".

There are a few characters like that in Crossbell, but not as many. Rufus was baffling to me, though. His stomping of the party seems so weird and random. At least the other got proper build-up to their power.

At first I really found Trails in Sky boring but it really grows after some hours into it, it is really a comfy game.

I might actually give a try to second chapter if it goes on sale dos it get better compared to FC? Also anyone know if the final chapter is coming to the west?

It clearly started in TiTS, but there are so many more of these characters now. In the finale of SC allies don't show up to keep the enforcers you beat busy while you progress forward.

Thank you. Rufus is by far the worst example, excluding McBurn.

SC is one of the best JRPGs ever made, so yes. The 3rd is coming soon but it's not a direct sequel from what I understand, more of a side story with vital world building and lore.

Trails in the Sky SC is basically the orgasmic payoff of plaything through and appreciating FC, because it's the game where shit actually happens. It's a fantastic experience from start to finish, and if you eventually fell in love with FC, then SC is gonna take your for one hell of a ride.

Yes please.

Thats kinda weird, I just hope the SC concludes what happened on FC if thats the case.

That's pretty much how I felt playing FC, it was all a build up for something even better, glad to hear SC really delivers, btw not very familiar with Falcons RPGs in general, does the lore of Trails connect with the other games series(like Ys) in some way?

Trails in the Sky SC is basically the orgasmic payoff of plaything through and appreciating FC, because it's the game where shit actually happens. It's a fantastic experience from start to finish, and if you eventually fell in love with FC, then SC is gonna take your for one hell of a ride.>>12030301

Nothing outside of a few wink-wink nudge-nudge references that are just for fanservice. Trails has tons of continuity within itself, though. In fact, I can't think of a single series that has more.

It's not like anyone puts any effort into box art anymore anyway.

Adol's beloved sister Adoline.

FC is the buildup and worldbuilding, SC is the payoff.

I think the only other series that has a proper continuity within itself with returning characters and whatnot, is Yakuza.

Given that he wasn't just a strategist and was the strongest/most secretive of the Ironbloods, that's probably what they were going for. Him being this secret superpowered ace in the hole? It makes sense that his power and status are suddenly shown rather than having buildup. Also him being the Jade Rook working for Osbourne all along, just paints Osbourne as a much scarier villain to me than anything we've faced so far (though I haven't played Zero/Ao and 3rd yet)

That said, I really loved when the "powerful good" came in to fight the "powerful evil". It felt like "Oh good, powerful characters who actually DO something helpful to the main party/story outside of mentorship and working offscreen".

In that sense it feels a little more believable, because Rean and co. are a bunch of kids accompanied by Sara (the only person with remotely any kind of superpower level among them canonically, but still not on the same level as people like McBurn).

And about the holding back thing… Like I get McBurn because he hasn't found anyone to unleash his full power against, and Duvalie holds back because she's prideful. But Xeno and Leo have no reason for holding back. You could make the argument that they don't want to harm Fie so that they held back, but then when they realized she (and Class 7) were plenty strong, they decided to put their job above Fie on their priority list.

On that note, is St. Astraia uniform Altina is wearing? Or "just some black dress?"

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Nah man, it starts back in SC. You never really win against an Enforcer(except when Zane suddenly mans up and takes Walter down), they just stop fighting you. Angel Weissman is stopped only because he was weakened by Loewe's demon sword and Loewe ramming a Dragoon or something into it.

I kind of like it. Sure there comes a time getting saved becomes a bit annoying, but I like the idea of having so many powerful characters around. Considering the stakes and the shit we get involved in, it'd be dissapointing if Junior Bracers, New Police Officers, and Military School students would be able to beat big bads involved in ancient conspiracies. I like the idea of that monstrous power being available to anyone so long as they work hard enough, have the best tools, or are just talented enough to have it. It's real like that.

She's wearing the same uniform. Lighting is just shit on that pic. I'm pretty sure some user has a better pic of her running in either Crossbell or Ordis saved.

Yeah almost every enforcer fight in TiTs ends with with the stereotypical
If there is one thing that triggers my autism in JRPG's it's when you kick a bosses ass only to have the cutscene afterwards show your party losing.
The other thing that annoyed the fuck out of me in TiTs was the cognitive dissonance with bracer ranks , where your constantly told C-tier bracers like Anelace and her crew are so much stronger and more capable than you despite the fact the opposite is true in actual gameplay and the fact you whip their ass in the arena, and you saved the entire country as junior bracers whilst they did fuck all.

Almost time for a new thread. Any OP updates fixes?

The only thing I can think of is the Ys Origin delay news is wrong. It was only delayed for the Vita. It's already out on PC and PS4.

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