I see anarcho-communists here making fun of ancaps, but don't realize they're equally deserving of ridicule when they themselves are also anarchists.
It's the most embarrassing political concept to be popularized by the first world. It's not a coincidence only sheltered, white babies wearing red and black like Shadow the Hedgehog swear by it. They yearn for excitement, to look "cool" in front of their peers like the pathetic narcissists they are, so they follow an ideology that has no basis.
These state produced, molly-coddled "anarchists" babies are complete cancer and need a spanking.
Meme away, child.
Samuel Hernandez
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Joshua Evans
couldn't agree more
Bentley Barnes
Nice blog post, where do I subscribe?
Dominic White
Agreed. Ancoms are as foolish as Ancaps. The state is a necessary apparatus for any civilized, productive society.
Julian Ward
Fight me IRL fgt.
Zachary Rodriguez
Why are you on Holla Forums?
Blake Martin
Are you this fucking dense? I'm a Libertarian Marxist, I understand Communism perfectly fine, I'm just not stupid enough to be an anarchtard. Get off your high horse and realized that just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they don't know what they are talking about.
Samuel Thomas
Communism is also stateless you tard.
Joshua Lewis
I'm not a Marxist and I'm still disgusted that you would call yourself a Marxist. At least fucking read Marx before you call yourself a Marxist.
Gavin Flores
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Hunter Brooks
Communism can never be stateless. Get over it. There's nothing wrong with a direct democracy based state enforcing basic human laws (No murder, rape, etc.) and redistributing resources evenly among the population.
Hudson White
So you're an anarcho communist?
Interdasting
Tyler Garcia
Things like the Paris Commune and Catalonia were still infinitely better than anything authoritarian "socialist" shitholes ever produced during their lifetimes.
Dominic Fisher
What definition of state are you using exactly?
Lucas Murphy
You can call it whatever you want, but I wouldn't call it abolition of the state by any means. It's my understanding (might be strawmaning here, but this is what other Ancoms have told me) that Ancoms would advocate for total abolition of state, and then have local councils to protect the area from outside threats.
Adam Cook
I would describe it as a governing body spanning an area of land that it claims for either itself, or the people.
Sebastian Wilson
From Google: State: a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.
Adam Wilson
And what of an advanced communist society in which all own their means of production and can produce things for themselves, thus lessening the chances of conflict for resources to near-zero levels? What of a society in which no-one can be hurt due to amazing technological progress?
Anthony Roberts
Whole post is an ad hominem
Communism is by definition stateless lel
Xavier Mitchell
Ancoms generally understand a state to be a governing body that claims its own legal existence against and separate from the population that comprises it. It's that one tiny little part of the government claiming a priori legitimacy and then enforcing this with mass violence that we go against. It's pretty generally understood that some form of direct democracy is the only way to avoid this while maintaining widespread social order (and separates collectivist communists from individualist communists who are less keen on wider social order)
Xavier Thompson
>looking up a definition for a word after having an argument about what the word denotes
Christian Lopez
That's all fine and dandy hypothetically, but I would still want a governing body so that the local rapist couldn't walk around having a field day.
Elijah Hill
Also this picture is evidently people from the third world you fucking idiot.
Pic related was just an anarcho baby,
Grayson Williams
OK, how would a governing body stop the rapist specifically? Can you walk us through the process?
Connor Wilson
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Cameron Baker
That's not how semantics arguments work.
Gavin Ross
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Andrew Flores
What part of "from Google" doesn't make it clear he/you just went and googled a definition to be able to give one? It's generally a bad idea to start arguing about something if you don't first get people to use the same definitions for their terms, but it's a whole different level if you are making arguments without even having your own definitions.
Blake Cruz
At what point is a state required in this process?
Cooper Jenkins
Literally explained my exact definition here And then asserted that my definition was correct here
Alexander Ortiz
Sectarians get out.
David Brooks
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Justin Williams
Perhaps it's just a different perspective, but I feel like there is no way that it could be done fairly without an (unbiased) state.
Nolan Howard
Exactly.
The left wing ideology doesnt work without extreme authoritarianism.
If you dont believe me, take a look at a little something called a history book.
Dominic Morgan
This is what anarkiddies actually believe
Carter Bailey
The M-Ls are here
Jeremiah Williams
We've pretty well derailed the thread into a semantic argument at this point, my nigga.
This argument takes the same form as "there is no way to behave morally without a moral God."
John Reyes
There is a reason you have to look in a history book for authoritarian communism and not the news paper
Caleb Jenkins
No its means direct worker control of the means of production.
Christian Mitchell
Taken strictly, there's nothing about anarchism that actually says that can't or even shouldn't happen.
Jaxson Johnson
That's socialism. Anarchism is the abolition of hierarchy, which ultimately includes a hierarchy of workers over non-workers. In anarchist or full communist society, production is determined by everyone.
Elijah Thomas
Anarchists don't understand the definition of a state.
A state is a tool of oppression of one class by another. If you only have one class, its not a state in the marxist sense.
Jordan Taylor
No socialism is a state society attempting to bring about communism either by vanguard or by vote.
Anarchism specifically does not have the socialist stage.
What I described is collectivism.
Daniel Sullivan
What an incredibly vague definition.
Aaron Foster
Using my stunted definition loaded with ideology, obviously you are wrong.
In that case, the institution of banking itself is a state.
The police are a state in themselves
Caleb Kelly
why do they all look like shitskins?
Hunter Murphy
Read a book.
Wyatt Peterson
because they are first world babbies
OH NO WAIT THATS WRONG
Matthew Williams
op's image back story:
anarchists from Egypt revolution, they were fighting heavily in the streets, organizing people and occupied then burned down Muslim Brotherhood's hq, risking their lives while op is sitting on his ass in his mother's home, shitposting. nice pic selection op, they are pretty based.
btw:
good try ayncrap, try harder. 0/10
Kayden Perry
That's because you are a retard who doesn't understand what is anarchism and you wasted 5 minutes or less on reddit or wikipedia reading about it. Anarchism is not "no rules" nor it is "no state". People that say otherwise are retards such as yourself. Anarchism is a political theory which advocates the abolition of central government(state=/=central government) and hierarchies. A place with no rules, chaos, lack of order it's called anomie. Do you understand the difference?
I do not wish to end with the state, because the state is something which will for ever exist. The state is everything, it's the people, it's the cities, the land, the government, the corporations, the institutions. I wish to end with central government and representative democracy(democracy where peopel atre called to participate only every 4 or 5 years). I believe the more descentralized power is, the better it can serve the populations. I believe in a political system of city-states with direct democracy, where people from the city know who their elected leaders are since they were born, what have they achieved in life, because they're all from the same place. It's easier to fight corruption, it's harder to prevent corrupt people to have power. I believe in natinionalism and isolationism from other cultures. So this city-states dispite having all their own government, they would still be linked together through cultural ties, such as language, thus forming a full nation.
Marxist and other cult of personalities lovers fail to reconginize that massive centralization of power is corruption. Having a proletariat dictatorship is corruption. For me these people need to be reeducated into becoming decent and productive members of society instead of being blind followers of heroes. Because there are no heroes, there are no perfect leaders.
Bentley Hughes
I fully agree: OP did not do research. He could've used words like Anarcho-Fascism.
You also didn't do your homework, if you think Marxism is all about "perfect leaders".