Aleksandr Dugin

Is he secretly /ourguy/?

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bigthink.com/paul-ratner/the-dangerous-philosopher-behind-putins-strategy-to-grow-russian-power-at-americas-expense
youtube.com/watch?v=y5LNpP18DNg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostrategy_in_Central_Asia
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Fuck off. /ourguy/ is Bordiga.

When the Italian fascist gov. let's you out of prison willingly, you're probably not a threat.

Romanian "intellectuals".

Are the Brits still blaming Russia for Brexit?

Yes.

getting sick of these "our guy" threads now tbh

I don't see why not.

National Bolshevism is a bridge from left to right

this

fuck off Holla Forums

How is NazBol really all that different in theory or practice from all other nationalist communisms, specifically Labor Zionism, the Bund, Juche, Viet Cong, Bolivarianism, Ba'athism, Black Panthers, Rojava, the Zapatistas, and all others?

wtf are you talking about kid?

They're indigenists first, libertarian socialists second.

By now they're just radical social democrats with Maya cultural overtones.

creation of an Eurasian front

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they did what they can, now they are protecting their achievements. there is no circumstance to start a over-all resistance until the victory in todays world. everyone is under the spell. even that zapatista revolution was not supposed to happen. it was a small miracle.

They're still revisionist from a Marxist perspective. They're also nationalist.

MY SIDES

you have to be a marxist first to become a "revisionist". and thank god they were never clamied to be marxists.

Dungin is actually Holla Forums's guy
Wait, Holla Forums are actually Dungin's guys

Dungin ruining the world is the only conspiracy I can believe in

This. Marxism is too good for socdems.

Maybe read his shit first before talking garbage about him like Holla Forums

THANK YOU.

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marxism is too autistic for the people who are not poisoned with western positivism and their inevitable authoritarian mindset.

Bordiga is useless. Dugin isn't a SocDem.

do you even read kid?

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Positivism is shit.

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Leftists trying to refute Dugin are intellectually dishonest

Marx is literally the father of the new wave right-wing atheists.

How can someone who has superseded Hegel and Feuerbach be positivist? Empirical presentation of facts on the structure of economy (eg Capital) isn't positivism.

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The Romanian woman in the video is insufferable. "mag-ah-ZAEEEN"

bunkermag.org/fourth-political-theory-alexander-dungin-review/

I know, right? How the FUCK is Dugin a fascist, and how the fuck is 4PT anything close to fascism? Juche and Ba'athism are much close to turd position than anything Dugin advocates.

Fuck off back to Holla Forums.

note to self: if a legit revolutionary movement ever starts again in my lifetime: kill every ideologist, leader, intellect trying to be the spokesman of the movement they do not belong or trying to direct them to get into power. if we can do that, there is literally nothing, NOTHING to stop a revolutionary movement which rises from below.

ITT old Holla Forumsyp tactics of normalizing their challenged "thinkers" in the place of actual leftists, report the overt Holla Forumsyps and move on.

0/10

international turd position

yeah and nazis were socialists. doesn't mean shit.

Who gives a fuck if a socdem does? They intentionally contributed to the ideological and material conditions for movements that murder or silence most of the consistent lefties.

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"if I don't call myself a fascist just because it was defeated and out of fashion I can't be a fascist. you don't have a right to call me a fascist even though I literally do and say everything what fascist did and said with a little bolshevist twist. because I don't identify myself as a fascist. learn my adjectives first you cuck! stop triggering me!"

nice try Holla Forums keep the hustle

Please report the fascist apologists for fuck's sake

This. Mods need you to do your part to handle the Holla Forumsyp spam.

I havn't apologized everything. I'm not even a fan of Dugin, but the fact I actually read shit and try to understand the authors intention makes me somehow Holla Forums. OP asked about Dugin so I posted his fucking theory. Nothing more.
Just wow.

*anything

You should had made that argument before and posted some criticism of your own

Can you read?
.. but I understand, you hate tankies so you wanna nail someone and claim that they are from Holla Forums. Well I won't post theory here again, no matter from whom. Congratulations for ruining this board. Hint: AnFems are more likely from Holla Forums than fucking MLs.

Calm the fuck down autismo
You contribution was good but some dumb stuff flew over your head, its nobody's fault we're into paranoid mode
If you care to post Dungin's shitty book posting some criticism of it will make people more receptive to your ideas

Yes

Dugin is hardly classcucked. He acknowledges the evils of neoliberalism.

Dugin is the kind of intellectual who will pick out this post-modern pastiche of every single mystical, edgy or nonsensical idea and mash them together in a pot pourri. No wonder Putin loves him so much, he expresses the post-modern rule of power in the zany sense that Victor Pelevin describes in his novels describing Russia after the fall of the USSR.
In another way Dugin is very typically both very "Russian" and very "un-Russian" in his national philosophy. He is most Russian because he expresses the Spenglerian "magian" soul better than anyone, Christianity, third Rome,and the typical Slavic atavism of Russia. One the other hand he is most "un-Russian" with all of his Malthusian geopolitical planetary thinking, which he inherited from the Bolshevik intelligentsia.

Thus you have the modern contradiction which is modern Russia, Dostoyevsky versus Tolstoy. This guy was born in the wrong era, he would have been better in the company of Rasputin and Alexander Bogdanov.

So no he is not our guy, Russia is an ecosystem better left undisturbed.

This.

Can you explain this?

No.

qz.com/871975/aleksandr-dugin-putins-favorite-philosopher-is-a-big-fan-of-donald-trump/

From my understanding Dugin actually likes the Bolshevik revolution, because he sees it as the Russian answer to Western modernity. You also have Stalin as the a national "father" to Russia, kinda like Ivan the Terrible, reforms and survival at the price of purges and suffering. Second I think that his geo-political ideas are nothing new. The Bolsheviks believed that the key to the fall of Western capitalist order, was not only an ideological defeat that would happen the contradictions of financial capital matured, but also in fomenting national independence movements in the developing and third world. Baa'th Syria and Egypt are obvious examples, as well as all those anti-colonial movements in Africa and Latin America.

As for Bogdanov, I see him as this kind of Bolshevik "Rasputin", an idealist mystic on the outer fringes of Russian bolshevism.

Dugin is to the right what Foucault was to the left.

Fucco wasn't even a leftist.

So basically Dubin is Russian Soros, got it.

no

Still employs fascism using old soviet rhetoric as a thin coverlet.
Fascist are classcucks.

He was a Maoist for a while and then became a straight-up neoliberal.

yes

Trump is an useful idiot to nazbols so ofcourse Dugin shills for him

She calls Dugin a "satanist" because he's into the occult and thinkers like Rene Guenon. So dumb.

Of course.

bigthink.com/paul-ratner/the-dangerous-philosopher-behind-putins-strategy-to-grow-russian-power-at-americas-expense

youtube.com/watch?v=y5LNpP18DNg

Eto Алексáндр Гéльевич Дýгин

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this. Trotsky went on vacation with no problem there too. They never did it with good old gramsci.

Pretty sure that's John Zerzan.

Why does this make me feel all warm and fuzzy?

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One should strive to understand and know all things. Especially if they are on the far left, it gives you more of the ability to actually give a meaningful critique. Calling Dugin a fascist is like calling Evola a fascist.

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Why is Bordiga relevant?

Leftcom's poor grasp of memetic science would indicate otherwise

Explain. Every Bordigaist I know is an obnoxious LeftComm.

Their inability to force a meme on an image board would suggest their edgy crypto-ML big guy is of little utility in subverting the overall discourse.

lel

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I see.

marx lampooned the new-wave atheists before they even existed, and never despised religion like you retards believe.

He's influenced by Heidegger and Carl Schmitt.

Dugin is hyper right wing from an eastern European perspective, he is also very into tradition and orthodox Catholicism.
He wants to make allinces with any groups that are anti west and has promoted the euroasian ideology.
Supposedly he has putins ear, but who knows how much putin takes him seriously.


I would like to see dugin and zizek go one on one at philosophermania though

I'm guessing Dugin and Zizek would agree more than they'd disagree.

Actually, the second cold war started when russia invaded georgia.
And the reality of america being in the middle east has to do with something called heartland theory

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History

Later, in 1919, Mackinder summarised his theory as:

"Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland;
who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island;
who rules the World-Island commands the world."
(Mackinder, Democratic Ideals and Reality, p. 150)
Any power which controlled the World-Island would control well over 50% of the world's resources. The Heartland's size and central position made it the key to controlling the World-Island


This is what the globalists are fighting about.

Sure, anything but global capital

Why?

They're both PoMo as fuck but claim to be anti-PoMo.

what the fuck are you talking about, it is a legitimate strategical are of importance

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard


The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1998) is one of the major works of Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski graduated with a PhD from Harvard University in 1953 and became Professor of American Foreign Policy at Johns Hopkins University before becoming the United States National Security Advisor during 1977–81 under the administration of President Jimmy Carter.

Regarding the landmass of Eurasia as the center of global power, Brzezinski sets out to formulate a Eurasian geostrategy for the United States. In particular, he writes, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger should emerge capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America's global pre-eminence.

Much of his analysis is concerned with geostrategy in Central Asia, focusing on the exercise of power on the Eurasian landmass in a post-Soviet environment. In his chapter dedicated to what he refers to as the "Global Balkans", Brzezinski makes use of Halford J. Mackinder's Heartland Theory.

also this is what lies behind the anti russian madness of the powers that be, of course they cant come out and say it.

I read that book back in Poli Sci 400. Fucking Neocon Bible.

It`s not me every time.

Dugin wants to put together a Eurasian union, and it happened.
The neocons want to prevent russia from taking the heartland and challenging americas monopoly on power.
Once you realize this, a lot of whats happened over the past decades make more sense.
It also explains the frothing at the mouth of neoliberals and neocons at russia after trump won

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostrategy_in_Central_Asia

I remember hearing about this stuff about 10 years ago when 9/11 conspiracy videos were a thing, specifically that the whole "war on terror" was really just a neocon political strategy to secure American dominance over Central Asia and the Middle East, starting with Afghanistan/Pakistan, going up north to Central Asian nations like Uzbekistan, and westward towards Iran and the Arab World.

Ahh, yes, my favorite yu-gi-oh card

well, as time goes on, doesnt it seem more true, what with the complete hatred the establishment has about russia, russia trying to form a euroasian union, etc

No doubt.

Hes an "enemy of enemy is friend" person but hes not a nazbol.he wants some weird orthodox russian superstate….

Yeah, he wants Finland to become part of Russia.

Wasnr Bogdanov a technocratic person though?

Only more cray cray. Dugin is a geopolitician.

Cause its cute and dugin sempai wave3~

His fourth political positoon takes shit from.the third political position aka fascism he calles it fourth position to be PC for Russia given open fascism.still is hard to promote.

He got fired from his position at moscow state uni, so he might have lost infkuence

1: PNAC wasnt exactly hiding their geostrstegic outlook
2. Brezinski is a Pole with his own biases which inflience US foreign policy (read: poles being russophobic, dude was raised by army officers during the right wing dictatorship that the polish state was interwae)

Really the wars are to keep China from getting access to the oil directlt

Directly or as part of some union?

How is it fascist?

what did he mean by this??

did he have to chop his head to put his hat on?

Nah, Zizek actually endorsed liberal "Western values" over reactionarism a lot of times so they would probably disagree in almost anything

Only in comparison with "eastern values" which he finds reactionary (like Buddhism and Islam).

Dugin is quite fond of Sufism and Shia lslam.

Yeah but Zizek's critique is mostly leveled at white liberals who fetishize Islam as some super-progressive ideology, not Muslims themselves.

Kai Murros is definitely /ourguy/ too.

youtube.com/watch?v=zimFdbGo2uc

jej. A friendly reminder that fascism is not exactly consistent. Furthermore, Bordiga's PCI was already decimated by the fascist government and he was basically allowed to live on his exclusively, under heavy surveillance, and literally everything published in his name in the 30s and 40s was released in England. Because he was censored in Italy and not allowed to publish. Gramsci was targeted because he actually was the shadow leader of the Italian anti-fascist coalition and was, in concert with the German fascists, designated one of the larger ideological scapegoats of the International Cultural Marxist Jewish Cabal(tm).

damn that nigga be SPOOKED