Why supporting the israeli imperialist pigs who oppress the palestinian people?

Why supporting the israeli imperialist pigs who oppress the palestinian people?

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This has to be the only antifa group on earth that supports Israel

Not at all

Those must be Infiltrators or some stupid lame ass liberals.

ah, the antiDeutsche

they're a joke

1) is that the same group

2) it appears yank antifa is a different beast to British antifa

I literally don't know a leftist who supports Israel, hell even my liberal family don't like Israel, all the SJW hate Israel too. Who the fuck is this guy? I think he's just one butthurt Jew tbh

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Also that meme is hilariously retarded

It's a German guilt thing.

They're very prominent in German ANTIFA. Even German anarchists will say pro-Zionist things every so often.

Antifa is like 90% liberal teenagers.

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Why does the German left feel "guilt" for Nazism, isn't this collective guilt supposed to be reserved for liberalism?

It seems like the German left is cucked

dumb dumber antideutsche antifa

Germany does not have a left, instead they have a sizable number of liberals who like to LARP as leftists.

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ok i know these people are fucking retarded
how can they support bombing of the country the live in?

They are retarded but to be fair, Bomber Harris did nothing wrong.

Take off that Lenin hat neocon.

really? wiki says they only number in the hundreds

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Because they're uneducated liberals

Voted the most LGBT-friendly country

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What did I say that was a lie? Typical homophobic communist.

zog lizard neocons gtfo!

That is actually a very common pro-Israeli talking point, used by both liberals and conservatives. It comes in 2nd place after "the only democracy in the Middle East."

Because Israel treats sexual minorities better than ISIS does well, except for this guy, I guess we are supposed to look past all of their crimes.

We are supposed to look past the crimes of the Jew and concentrate on the remaining Feudal and Fascist dictatorships? Das ist unthinkable!

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legit leftwing issues there, m8y

israelis do not genocide palestinians. palestinians want to genocide israelis and israelis are trying to prevent that.

settlements is not meant to force palestinians out, the plan is in fact to integrate palestinians within israel as an autonomous region and force them into accepting that using the settlements because palestinians do not care, accept or negotiate in any peaceful manner for a two-state solution and instead bomb themselves up, and if you stop the bombing and build a wall, you're called apartheid.

israel is a necessary and undoubtedly positive state because it allows jews their emancipation and protection. this is important because antisemitism is an elementary fact of capitalism, in jews all the bad things about capitalism and the world are personified (banks, rich, manipulative, behind the doors, big business). antisemitism will always appear and get stronger the worse the economic realities of people are and jews are prepetually threatened wherever they are since due to historical reasons they fill the roles within capitalism that people are the most jealous and hateful of, and points within capitalism that people fetishize as "the oppressor" rather than understanding that even your local bakery is capitalistic and exploits you and that banks are just that on a big scale, and inevitably so in order to keep the awful system functioning.

Holla Forums, the french situation with antisemitism, every random muslim's obsession with jews causing 9/11 and everything else, even random black lives matter people being antisemitic makes a fairly strong point for that.

this is just a very short summary you are all retards i dont even want to be here bye

IdPol cancer
Jews are god tier capitalists
Integrate them in a Jewish ethno-state with their fucking symbol on the flag even though it's been their land since more than a millenia.

Also, Jews are nowadays the most muh privileged group in the world.

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Religious extremism is a consequence of western imperalism, which leads to an identification of religious ideology with the struggle against western imperialism, since everything related to the oppressors value system, i.e. liberalism, is rejected.

While I do not support current Israeli politics, I show full solidarity with the Jewish state since I acknowledge its unique role in standing against German nationalism, fascism and recognize that the Jews are being threatened by hundreds of millions of people.

Who's paying you?

the jewish state funds the jidf. they get private support from rich zionists too

Not the worst left-wing movement by a long shot. Their main thing is that they reject the idea that leftists should take the side of whoever is the most anti-american/anti-Western, and tend to see Marxism as being part of the enlightenment tradition. From this they tend to side with Western liberal democracies over fascism or theocracy or shitty "socialist" dictatorships- opposition to them from tankies sortof ended up with them taking a stronger pro-Western viewpoint in turn. They originated around the reunification of Germany, as there were a spate of lynchings and attacks against foreigners, and came to the conclusion that just because someone is working class doesn't mean they can't be regressive as fuck- if a group of socialists took over any given state it wouldn't result in much changing, because racist (etc) attitudes are too ingrained, and that the main struggle for communism is cultural- and as Western liberal democracies are some of the least likely to gulag political dissidents, tend to support Marx's idea that liberal capitalist democracy is a required step towards socialism- and that theocracies or dictatorships are a step backward.

They only really still exist as a counter-balance to the maoists and other scum (who are more dangerous and more retarded). I like how they make people read Adorno and Friends, I like how they strongly oppose Third Worldism and related ideologies (because those things are fucking cancer), and they do a good job of stopping idpol (except when it comes to supporting Israel).

because i'm not a neo nazi

So you are basically saying IdPol is more important than class struggle. If they are so much into Marx as you claim they are they should at least know the basics. Even if I'd agree with their premise - where is the hard racism and antisemitism in Germany of which they see as their big boogeyman? I don't see it.
This is absolute classcucked cancer. They are literally making Holla Forumss meme of Cultural Marxism real.
Aka buying the NATO meme of being the "good guys" and muh human rights. Oh and btw, in the US of the 50s you'd be gulaged if you were a commie.
This is literally the ONLY THING they borrowed from Marx and sort of the only one he was wrong about looking at historical reality.
If by scum you mean actual communists, yes.
top kek, Adorno would have called the cops on them.
Class struggle is not fucking IdPol. Supporting Imperialism because of muh muh privilege is.

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If someone thinks they can just take over the government and socialism will just wonderfully appear like a transformation scene from a magical girl anime, then they are wrong, and we've got more than enough examples of tankies fucking everything up trying to do that.

Personally, I would rather live in the West than in Russia or Nepal or somewhere where I would be locked up for being a trap and sucking dick. They're not the good guys, they're just marginally less shit for workers and oppressed people than most other places. The strength of capitalism is that it is flexible- it manages to assimilate and consume the viewpoints and struggles of those it exploits into itself, repackaging these into a consumable identity. Unless leftists can articulate a vision of the world that is equally as adaptable, leftists are screwed. Preferring to be in a society that doesn't gulag me over one that would is fine.

I don't really agree with them on Israel, but they made me realise how spooked everyone is over the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: in some "leftist" groups advocating for fascists like Assad or what have you is considered okay, but if someone advocates the idea of a two state solution or whatever they're considered to have a viewpoint that needs to be suppressed. Wishing Israel didn't exist and sticking your head in the sand is taking attention away from worker's struggle and building solidarity between workers in both Israel and Palestine. Basically, the idea that "if only THE JEWS didn't exist in the middle east, we'd have socialism and puppies" is a Holla Forums-tier argument and is detracting from the bigger issues specific to Israel/Palestine and the middle east more generally.

Basically, for all their flaws, they do a good job of showing how regressive and fucking retarded tankies are. The idea that people should side with whoever is the most anti-Western, instead of siding with workers, is fucking retarded. I don't mind them as long as they're directing their energy and attention at undermining and fucking with tankies. I just wish they didn't go so far and fly Israeli and American flags and shit, because nobody listens to them when they see them doing shit like that.

Anti-Deutsche made my purge list long ago.