Hey Holla Forums

Yes its worth it. Don't forget that a PC has more purposes than just video games.

PC has a higher entry cost, but you'll end up saving money in the long run over consoles.

You could be right, but the general consensus appear to be on the cheaper built that can handle almost everything nowadays.

Also I dont do rendering or other heavy CPU works so it would be really just power for videogame, and if its not used then its money lost.

Why the hate on the PS4 ?

refer to logical increments. Get an Intel CPU, Nvidia GPUs are better supported by developers, buy cheap, used even like from ebay. Look up benchmarks for games you want to play on the hardware you're considering buying. Chances are it will run the games perfectly fine. You can get a $600-700 PC and it'll be fine for years. You may want to wait a few weeks, AMD's releasing their competitor CPU and it may drive prices down for Intel hardware.

A lot of PC purists have weird hateboners on things for no real reason. I just hope you don't end up like that.

I'm having the same issue. I just lost my hard drive on a 2013 gayman laptop and decided to just work 100e for a new one instead of getting a 800-1000 good laptop, because I've noticed that I've been mostly playing non-fancy indie shit for the last few years or classics or emulating handhelds and 90s consoles. Graphics aren't that important, performance more so, but I can't really think of many games that take a toll that I'd like to play.

anyway thanks you all for the opinions.

What are you even on about, do the good ones have a resolution lock?

You got me worng. I meant that there is no new AAA title with proper gameplay, proper tits and polygon number. Japanese bouncy boobs physic would be nice too.

I feel you, lately I was playing .io games and I realized how much I was falling in misery. Also with a good computer I will be able to play dorf fortress for longer befor death by FPS.

Just wait until you have enough games to justify upgrading. At least wait until Zen comes out, because processors should be a little cheaper. You don't really need a gaming PC to play most PC games, just the graphically intensive ones.
Don't get the PS4 unless you're absolutely sure it's worth it. It's not that it's bad, you can just get better consoles for cheaper.

Whats a good GPU thats still compatible with 6pin power supplies? Mine don't do 8 pin.

I got a Nvidia 1050 ti, and it's more than adequate at handling new games. I tested out the RE7 demo at max settings, and it runs just fine. And that costs about 150-160$. So yeah, lower end isn't a problem.

RAM is cheap, Hard Drives are cheap. Solid State Drives are kind of expensive, which is why I would suggest getting a cheaper SSD for your OS and favorite programs/games, and use an HD for the rest.

Don't skimp out on the power supply, though. Bad ones can explode.

Sure go for it. There's plenty of unoptimized games that might be worth a try, you will need a good machine to bruteforce them.

$1500 for a complete system? Is that a lot? I spent well over 2k on my system that includes

I view this as pretty much mandatory to play most games, including the unoptimised and shitty ones, at over 60fps. Well over if possible, since with the 144hz monitor they look better and feel more responsive. As well as good booting and loading speeds, with plenty of hard drive spaces for memes.

I currently have a 1200€ computer, bought it august 2016. I couldn't decide on a gpu yet, I wasn't sure if I should go with the new rx460 or the 1080, but decided to just wait for the rx490 so I just put a old ass 50€ gpu into it.

At first it's a blast, but with time you get used to it and suddenly it feels like you are using a old ass mid range computer again.

I don't know, maybe it's because I rarely play games, but it just felt like a waste of money.

The GPU is the main component in a gaming computer. As long as everything else meets the min specs for a game, the GPU will be the bottleneck. So if you didn't replace that you are gaming on a mid range computer, and pretty much everything you bought was a waste of money.

Currently I've got a computer with an i5 3570k (4.2GHz), 16GB DDR3 RAM, and an R9 290. I'm looking to upgrade my CPU when Zen hits, but that'll mean I'll want to get a new mobo and RAM. I'm thinking about just making a whole new build at that point, if the only things I can really keep are my GPU, my case, and my HDDs. What should I do?

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Recently built a RX 480 / 6600k build. It runs everything like a dream, and yet I still feel like a fucking retard because I still find games I could play on my old craptop more fun than new AAA games.

But now you can record all your gameplay and encode sweet mp4s.

Maybe for a few weeks while they move the stock before filling every orifice with ryzen.

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I have that case. It's bretty gud, nice and roomy. Plenty of space for cable management so it's noob friendly too

As a PS4 owner, yes, yes it is that fucking bad

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
it better be at least 2400mhz cause if it ain't.. Wew

Is that all?

I can already tell you likely paid way more for everything listed than you aught to have.

Just spend ~$700-800 on the components, rest on peripherals. Upgrade slowly over time.

Just get the following:

- last gen i5 on firesale prices
- entry level motherboard
- 8 GB ram
- Nvidia GTX 750
- 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD
- used monitors

all for less than 500 buckaroos.

You can even be a game developer.

Only reason to get PS4 is if you like Bloodborne, Gravity Rush2, Star Ocean 5, and Last Guardian. Everything else will be on PC.

Honestly
No, there's no reason to gt a current powerhouse since there's really nothing worth playing that requires it.
You can get a system you'll be perfectly happy with for

Why bother buying a modded console when you could just buy a powerhouse PC and emulate?

It's worth it to have a capable PC, not so much for native games, but for emulators and encoding webms. If I were you I'd wait until summer and get midrange AMD parts after their GPUs refresh.

Dubs of truth tho

RX 480 better card value tho

Dont
OP, get a 480 or a 1060 (6GB)

What for, ryzen is coming out and the radeons are a better bang for buck than the overpriced nvidias.

=$2891 AUD > $2176.76 USD

I got it from the cheapest online retailer possible. It was a number of years ago, maybe things are cheaper now, and maybe hardware is cheaper in 'merrica, I still doubt you could get all of it for $1500

Into the trash it goes.

my shop is already clearing stocks of ddr3 ram and not at really great prices and not restocking it again so it might disappear even before price drops

I built more or less the same computer for less than $800. $159 for a mATX z87 board, holy shit.

The meme's proven true, sorry lad. In any CPU-bound situation 2400MHz has 10-20% gains over 1600MHz and dual channel has the same gains over single channel.

I bought one with a bonus I got at work a couple years ago. It's basically all the disadvantages of a PC with none of the advantages, unless you consider getting a random weeb game 6 months sooner than PC owners an advantage. And despite all the wank over the controller, the DS4 is terrible.

$1000-1500 is excessive if you don't want to play modern games. Putting the money towards a good monitor isn't a bad call though, if you're playing older games go for a high refresh rate (this will help avoid either screen tearing or fucking around with vsync and fps limits).

I want to upgrade my case any good deals for quality?

If you have to buy everything then 1000 is more than enough

pcpartpicker.com/list/GwWLyf
this set up is pretty much perfect, so i've been told

lmao
Go ahead, do it. Wear it like a badge.

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so the key components are all spot on then?

No games, shit performance, paid online, yeah that all seems pretty good.

Dump the second SSD and replace it with a HDD or two.
Spend less on the GPU and more on the CPU + Mobo, GPUs drop in price much more quickly and the Mobo in particular is what will prevent you from upgrading easily.

I mean it's hard to go wrong with them these days, there isn't much choice.

Replace the 212 with a Cryorig M9i if you're really dedicated to the idea of a budget fan on a $300 processor, a Noctua otherwise.

Holy shit this board truly has been taken over by reddit.

Are you implying only reddit has money

Only reddit would spend more than 1000 whatever on a pc

No. Only reddit would be retarded enough to spend more than 1000 on a pc build when you can easily get everything you need starting around 400. My build cost $600 because I'm not a fucking retard like you.

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A fool and his money are soon parted.

Well, enjoy your 300€ gayming mobo and 32 ram

That color scheme triggers me but whatever.
Get a case that isn't shit user.
No. Boot M.2 drive is good though.

pcpartpicker.com/list/CQ833F

Haha holy shit this is retarded.

If that's what this retard wants to spend then I don't care, I just modified it to make it less retarded.

If he weren't retarded he would wait for Ryzen, not spend $200 for overpriced 2x16gb ram sticks, and in retrospect unless you're trying for 4K a 1080 really isn't worth the price when a RX480 or 1060 does great at half the price.

But if he wants to waste $1500 then it's his decision I suppose.

You can always opt for a last gen GPU. Snagged my 980 ti for 300$. Even the processor, My I7 2600K runs everything fine, you will only notice a significant difference if you play arma.

That is unbelievably idiotic. 16 GB is already a meme as is.

with your MOBO

I spend 6+ hours a day on my PC, you're seriously retarded if you can't even spare a few hundred dollars or so to get a better rig that will place games smoother, be a lot quicker with loading and will last a lot longer before you have to upgrade.

No I'd say 16gb is the comfortable maximum that most people aren't gonna get hindered by, unless you use Chrome :^). 32gb is for dick waving, 64gb is if you just have too much money.

that's true, 8GB is functional but 16GB is preferable to lots of breathing room

Fuck you're a pleb.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

1000-1500 is a good range with a monitor and peripherals
wait for zen like everyone else who isn't a doofus
Holla Forums is retarded, don't ask for advice on here when it comes to parts. ocn, lurk
don't buy a prebuilt

3. that case is ugly

Personally OP i built a more beefier computer recently so I could play everything on ultra high only to find out who cares about new games.
Now I emulate a fuck ton of old games that look better than they ever did on their respective consoles.
Feels nice running a WiiU emulator at 4k with 8x anti aliasing at 60fps.

Seriously at least in my case being able to run things properly feels great and not having to spend 300 dollars on a new system every few years really helps keep the catalogue big since eventually no matter what PC will have Everything and it's gonna last you much longer than any console will.

Plus in a lot of ways you can cut back your cost of your PC by stripping things off other pc's such as keyboards mice and monitors cases everything allowing you to spend your money on better pieces for your rig because while you may not have the money for it now you can make due with what crap you can find from friends and family. Then there's always the piracy option too.

Can't tell if you're being a parody, but…

8-900 is a good range if you include peripherals

God damn you're probably one of those faggots who buys "gaming" brand hardware.

i'm not a mindless consumer, fuck off

your price range may be spot on though. let me check, i am not familiar with US prices to be honest

Depends, if you're fine with owning a system that's malware infected from an OS level, enjoy paying 5 bucks for an executable because it's marketed as an app, and love nothing more then playing the same games you played before remade to cater better to the Halo/Call of Duty audience you are making a great purchase.

No one has said anything about Windows 10 user. Let alone BUYING it

Only if you're retarded.

I kinda get what you're going for, but at the same time it's a crime to pump 500+$ in a GPU only to run games in DX11.

Considering the first step is accepting that there's advertisements baked into your start menu it's not a huge stretch.

Not that there's anything wrong with being retarded.

alright smartypants
800-900 does buy a pc for 1080p60hz
it depends on the expectations of OP and whether he's actually into this shit or if he thinks he is
many people build a bleeding edge pc only to use it for 2 weeks and get bored afterwards and sell it 6 months later for half of what they paid

You're partially right but what really matters is the timings. Having tight timings does lead to better all-around cpu performance, whereas lots of bandwidth only really matters for bandwidth-intensive tasks which are very few (gaming is not one of them).

Complete bullshit, stop talking out of your ass.

Oh I agree, that's why I just Use Windows 7 for gaming and Linux Mint for everything else DX11 can go fuck itself it hardly makes a difference. Hell thanks to Vulkan if games move towards that I wont even need 7 anymore.

user you are right many people do end up doing just that. But where do you think we are?
This is Holla Forums not the break-room at work. And if OP is that retarded I don't think he would come here for advice.

user I think you're confusing DX12 for DX11.

Ah my mistake I am, point remains that Vulkan is just as good as DX12 from what ive been seeing.

They're largely the same really, AMD only made mantle because they were desperate wanting to not be the underdog and one of the things necessary for that was a decent API. The issue being how microsoft reached market monopoly with direct3d and being heavily incompetent because they are microsoft and also don't care about the quality of their products, and khronos group being incompetent due to how all of it's members have conflicting interests with all of it's members. When AMD put out mantle it was obvious it wasn't going to stick but they allowed both to cannibalize their API into something better. In fact there wasn't word or rumours of a new directx or opengl until AMD pulled the plug on mantle.

Unless you have the cash to replace parts that break, just get a better laptop or a psp or something

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Holy fuck i didn't see it, he actually bought windows

Yeah if you like wasting large amounts of money on hardware that's been outdated for like 6 years.

Contrary to what you think, you don't have to reply to every thread you browse. Don't post some bullshit that you know is nonsense just because you have to make a post.

Enjoy the backdoors and spyware that comes with your pirated copy.

If you download "Windows 7 1337 hax0rz edition" from TPB then you probably will get a virus and be part of some botnet but only retards download OSes from torrent sites nowadays.

Do you actually believe your own shit so much you think others will?
Or are you just so bad at internet security that you cant figure out how to get a proper torrent.

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This works for Windows 7 and 2008R2, and you might be able to upgrade to 10 with it for whatever reason.

Also if you don't want backdoors and spyware, you shouldn't be using Windows on sensitive systems.

I jewed it from college and it still works. Getting certain updates to have certain programs work is way harder on pirated windows.

u wot fam

You can still update though windows update also if you want since windows loader blocks that pirate check one so i don't see how updating is harder.

Heres a good PC Build for $1338.46

pcpartpicker.com/list/392w8K

PCPartPicker part list: pcpartpicker.com/list/392w8K
Price breakdown by merchant: pcpartpicker.com/list/392w8K/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($147.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($96.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 8GB GAMING X Video Card ($244.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($115.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1338.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-27 10:48 EST-0500

are you retarded? the computer won't even use half that wattage.

I always buy a PSU so that when I Crossfire cards I dont have to worry at all as I give a 300 Watt breathing room and 2 480's being 515w. If he plans on doing only one card I would go lower for a 750 or hell an 650 but I its only a 20-50 dollar difference.

OP here with different ID probably (Im traveling atm).

Wow you guys really gave me loads of info.

I decided I will go with the 600 Pounds (UK yup) plus 150-200 for good monitor.

I will wait for ZEN to come out even if it means Ill have to suffer and wait lil bit more without a proper gayman PC.

for power I will buy something overkill like suggested since I had problems with PSU in the past frying my whole PC.

Dubs of thruth I will buy an RX 480.

don't buy "overkill"
buy quality
watch out for ripple and cap quality. don't buy dated group regulated designs. don't buy a brand, buy a product that has been reviewed by a reputable specialist with proper equipment

Feel free to look up the benchmarks.

PSUs tend to be the most efficient and have the best part life at around 50% load but user is right, 850w for that is overkill.

I only will because you didn't and you still feel the need to talk out of your ass even though you know what you think is based on nothing. Have some pictures.
Taken from
techbuyersguru.com/gaming-ddr4-memory-2133-vs-26663200mhz-8gb-vs-16gb?page=1
anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell/7
Everything is within the margin of error or otherwise the same, and everywhere you go get more results or benchmark yourself you'll see the same thing. That is unless it is a non-gaming benchmark where some things do benefit from better memory.

None of these are CPU-bound situations. Techbuyers tests are console ports running at 1440p and max settings on a video card that sometimes can't even push 60fps. The Anandtech test is the weirdest thing I've ever seen someone try to pass off as a representative user case. A seven year old card running four modern-ish games at a ten year old resolution but max settings, followed by two eight year old cards in crossfire doing the same. The only time they ever become CPU-bound is on the Dirt 3 crossfire test, and you can tell because suddenly there's gains for RAM speed.

If you're gonna post whatever benchmarks you find off google do me a favor and at least find one that bothers to show CPU utilization.

You can use a molex to gpu power adapter