True story of a 90% white, 85% Christian country governed by far-right conservatives that happens to be my home.
42% of under 7 children live below the poverty line. 30,000 children are in systematic poverty in a nation of 9 million. 150,000 children live in a home without a toilet of its own 200,000 live in one without electricity 50,000 experienced hunger in their lives
Extreme poverty is on a steady rise ever since Socialism collapsed in 1989, it actually accelerated since the takevoer of extreme conservative Fidesz.
45% of all voters supported the ruling party almost 7 yrs after its rise to power, and 4 yrs after it started completely dismantling the corrupted liberal democracy we had.
Once a society hits rock bottom, and middle class evaporates, ther is no one to stand up and fight. Even though there is no special assistance to the country's large Roma minority let alone anything like affirmative action, and in fact they experience housing segregation on the level of Missisippi, white Hungarians continue to become poorer by every year. Adn in fact they are more likely to accept the ruling nativist ideology as they cannot access public education anymore, and keep the corrupt and increasingly wealthy and powerful nationalist oligarchy.
Hungary is good for one thing: Redpilling Holla Forumsacks and trumpeters as well as Brexiters. Feel free to use it as a nationalist "muh Venezuela.
the problem with all post soviet countries is that they were all fucked hard by crooked privatization after the iron cutrain fell. Nowaday, western compaines are here in post commie land making money, but we arent getting richer and the money is flowing away from the countries to these companies.
we went from soviet colonies to american and german colonies
Josiah Davis
this fucking waste of spcae from Sheffield for example is talking exactly like our government politicians, so he basically adovactes for a system described above. he needs loads of Hungary factsheet retweets tbh. to shut his shill mouth up.
Caleb Sanders
>crooked privatization as opposed to?
Ethan Nelson
Holla Forumsack response
Elijah Lewis
No this is their "response"
Any nation that is east of Germany isn't white. Hungary isn't white. It's not white. There are no Caucasians.
Bentley Gutierrez
it's worth it
Daniel Garcia
LOL
Adam Young
we wuz kangz! triggered!
Benjamin Jackson
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Chase Ortiz
so this poll is legit huh?
Stay strong Magyarbro
Blake King
What would be not-crooked privatization? Only giving everything to profit-seeking companies that "genuinely care"?
Joshua Stewart
Is there a source for this?
Ryder Watson
it is, we had market socialism though under chairman Kádár i owe like 80% of what i have materially and intellectually to that system tho and shit is getting so bad that far-right oppositionist Jobbik increasingly embraces soft-Strasserism to use Socialist propaganda before the 2018 election campaign. "it was better under Kádár" is like "Hello, how are you?" in this country.
Christopher Thompson
I visited Hungary a few years ago. Everyone in the countryside was very nostalgic for the Soviet days whereas everyone in Budapest was a fucking neoliberal.
John Martin
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Jace Lee
Budapest is trashcan-worthy for all its Murica-worshipping cunts the countryside on the other hand needs to be better educated in basic Marxism. there is a yuge cognitive dissonance there since you would hear "its was bettern under the Russians - Soviets" and "Gommunism is murder and theft" at the same time.
Ryan Clark
fixed
Matthew Cooper
Is there a distinction between communism and Russian rule though?
John Wilson
But Hungary isn't white. Magyars are steppe nomads.
Parker Price
wew lad
Zachary Rogers
Dunno man they look like any group of ethnically dutch kids where I'm from. (but then again, "ethnically dutch" doesnt even exist)
Isaac Sullivan
genetics is legit, it just doesn't support racial hypothesis
Mason Hall
No, it's because Budapest is literally the best place and rural areas in Hungary are same as any other full of reactionaries. We don't need communism here again.
As for OP, do basic maths.
Only .0033% children in systemic poverty Only .0166% in home without toilet of its own (because we have communal, YOU IDIOT) Only .022% live without electricity, which was worse under communism Only .0055% in Hungary ever go hungry (WORSE IN USA AND MANY WESTERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES)
Simply put, wow, it's fucking nothing. There are countries in the west worse than this, the US itself for example by their own statistics. Worst about these statistics by reactionary idiots like OP is that they forget all the good things again like how many people can actually own cars and homes now compared to past and many other quality of life improvements since that time. The reactionaries are just nostalgic for old days because through their ignorance like the rural idiots who cannot into basic mathematics like OP.
yes, if they get more gibsmedats they will integrate and succeed because that has definitely worked elsewhere in Europe
Brayden Parker
pretty much
nearly all our factories, basic service providers, major areas of agriculture were privatized and/or closed
The city where I live we pay the heating bill to a Russian company, the electricity bill to a French company, the local newspapers are all owned by a single German company, our mobile service and internet provider are German too, we bank in western banks, we import food at lower prices (and lower quality) than what we already have and distribute them in English, Austrian, and German malls, while letting the local shops and farmers commit sudoku.
Our infrastructures are crumbling, most EU aid goes into corrupt pockets, like you see playgrounds, museums etc. getting 1mil euro from the EU and you see that what was really built cost its quarter at best, we had an excellent national train network that was left to rot (its most profitable branches privatized, ofc), inflation is constant since the regime change (when I was a kid an icecream cone cost 0.20 HuFt, now its 300 HuFt), the money spent on teachers, nurses, doctors are not following the inflation rate, these people work in horrible conditions and our most educated people and (around 40-70% of) youngsters leave the country to work in the west instead for better wages.
Meanwhile, if you ask a Hungarian right winger, he'll tell you that this is all because the communists (they call the neolib party communist), if you ask a liberal, he'll tell you that Orbán (Fidesz) is communist too.
We have 1 Eurocommunist party that exists only to get European Left moneys, one Stalinist nostalgic party that is ridiculed by many, and basically that's it now.
Kayden Sanchez
was just about to post this
Jace Collins
that would be Balpárt and Munkáspárt respectively, right? kek
Ayden Watson
Why don't you take this to Holla Forums yourself and make your argument instead of hiding here like scared rats?
Leo Edwards
i wanted comrade criticism and input before that, cos i dont think of myself as a fucking oracle, faggott.
Carter Cox
Plz
Hunter Morales
No, Munkáspárt 2006 and Munkáspárt.
I didn't count Balpárt (because they are idpol garbage).
If you are so confident in your case, why not make it here? Oh, what's that? You can't argue without the backup of a ban-happy mod team and 200 nazi teenagers?
Jason Hughes
In what alternative reality?
Aiden Bennett
they are pretty hopeless, but i think the idpol meme just got too far on this board. Balpárt is basically the Hungarian micro-advocacy of Varoufakis's Diem25, tbh, not shit-tier theoretically.
Julian White
wut? you realize you can be a feminist without idpol? you can be pro-lgbt without being idpol too maybe kill yourself?
Henry Harris
Anyone who would compare Hungary to Venezuela is an irredeemable retard who have never live or been to Hungary. There's no mess slaughter of Hungarian pets so they can feed themselves and all the retardations of OP number less than a single percent. He needs to kill himself for being such cringe embarrassment.
Jaxson Richardson
what makes Balpárt idpol?
Kayden Robinson
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Jaxson Rivera
the comparison is not literal and word by word, you one-person autistic cringefest
Luke Myers
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Joshua Diaz
good fucking grace, lurk moar, newfag
Grayson Martin
Are you following their communiqués? Are you familiar with their members? Are you on their e-mail list?
Michael Wilson
30,000 children are in systematic poverty in a nation of 9 million. 30,000/9,000,000= 0.0033 *100% = 0.33% of the entire population is children in systemic poverty.
Ryan James
People here eat animal carcasses instead, from the trashcan, or simply steal not to starve. Huge fucking difference.
Aaron Murphy
damn that sounds really bad
Isaiah Harris
Do you live in your basement or something? Go outside. It's great.
Stores are fully stocked of goods, people are well dressed and fed, and the worst thing that can be said is shitty tourists from countries like UK and France being stupid pricks as usual.
that's like every second-third kid in poverty, you math genius
Liam Lee
Holy shit, you really are one butthurt steppe-nigger.
Jayden Miller
Because it is literally better statistically under the new system. It's idiotic as the retards in Russia crying back for the Soviet Union. Even Putin himself said that anyone who wants communism back has no brain and you can see it just by looking at the statistics from past and present. Nothing is perfect but singling out Hungary alone is fucking retarded. Now stop moving goalposts, you reactionary loser. It's over.
Jayden Hill
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Jaxson Butler
It's literally not.
Andrew Barnes
just goes to show how many huntards are on Holla Forums. the rabbit is out of the bush, as we say it here.
James Powell
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Isaac Barnes
hungary was better off under our rule
t. turk
Connor Moore
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Easton Hughes
wow. Really didn't get the impression when I was in Budapest. I did end up drunkly shouting my admiration for comrade Stalin in the streets during a pub crawl, and learned that Hungarians weren't that sore about communism, and lots were with me… a few days later I spent a day travelling shitty hungarian rails and spent a long time at a station in the middle of nowhere, possibly Gyekenyes. it was rural, and there was stray dogs and soldiers walking around with AKs, but somehow I didn't see the poverty.
Leo Sanchez
I don't remember the turks abolishing unemployment or maintaining a public health and education level that competed with the West.
Lincoln Brooks
didn't Hungary take loans from the west during the commie times?
Hudson Williams
I always laugh at the children here crying about capitalism while benefiting the most from it. If you can post on this board, you're not the kind of person Marxism is meant for. Pajeet in India living on less than .50p a day while working the factory of western exploiter of cheap labour is who is it meant to be helping. When people who actually lived in former socialist nations call you out, you just stick your fingers in your ears like that leader of Greek socialist party who wears designer clothing. Virtually all the modern left especially the SocDems is just spoiled bourgeois LARPing as proletarians.
Joseph Adams
Holla Forums bickers over who is white all the time, it's pretty funny
damn, sounds bad
Holla Forums really is full of rich kids then isn't it? no wonder they're all right wing
no problemo
2009
Can't imagine much has changed. Especially in Russia and Ukraine with the situation over the last few years.
Carson Brown
meanwhile, in reality
Nolan Rodriguez
LIES
Landon Johnson
try harder faggot.
James Martin
didn't Hungary take loans from the west during the commie times?
Josiah Hall
At the very end, yes, basically it was the regime's way to make sure to maintain the highest living standard possible under the soviet model to avoid '56 happening again.
Don't be fooled, tho. After the regime change, our dear capitalist parties took 10 times as much loans in 4 years than what the commie part took in 20.
Henry Brooks
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Luke Bailey
b-but Holla Forums told me the communists lived in opulent mansions
>Second, in communist countries, productive forces were not organized for capital gain and private enrichment; public ownership of the means of production supplanted private ownership. Individuals could not hire other people and accumulate great personal wealth from their labor. Again, compared to Western standards, differences in earnings and savings among the populace were generally modest. The income spread between highest and lowest earners in the Soviet Union was about five to one. In the United States, the spread in yearly income between the top multibillionaires and the working poor is more like 10,000 to 1.
