Post your political compass history

Political compass history thread

Used to be a libertarian almost to an cap level.
The became a centrist and stopped caring
Then basically still a centrist but authoritarian.
Then I was a nazbol.
The a tankie
Then a trot/market socialist.

I first really got into politics/economics in early 2013. I was a bit of a lolbertarian then, believe in the free market.

2014 I moved to the left economically, became a social democrat/social liberal I guess.

Early 2015 I started reading lots of socialist/anarchist/Marxist works, became a bit of a Corbynista

Late 2015 I had an alt-right phase, got drawn to the idea of NazBol/3rd position crap

This year I've snapped back out of it and I'm a Lib Soc.

I've always broadly been left wing economically and distrusted elites.

used to be an anarchist but i couldn't handle the lifestylist punks anymore
it actually made me an authoritarian

Nice.

horseshoe theory is real folks

this is a lie

was a fash when i was like 11-13, just like every dumb Holla Forums classcuck kiddie but it grew out of me

Guys this is going too far. The political compass is a tool to constrain your thinking. The more you buy into it the more powerful it gets.

Started out as a collectivist nazi but without idpol obsession with race and fun, then I swallowed the green politics pill which exposed me to social democrats and more left-leaning politics.
By 2015 I was confidently submerged in marxism and a communist. Since then I've gained more libertarian views and realised that egoism is the real collectivism.
Feels pretty sensible.

I've been very close to the bottom left since about four years ago, even when I considered myself a liberal and then a social democrat.

That's why filteries is better imo, gives you more choices

How do you all change your political leanings drastically as the years go on? I have been the same politically since high school. I couldn't imagine changing my beliefs every year.

If you're not exposed to very much you will passively absorb whatever surrounds you. When I was a kid as far as I knew only the two right quadrants existed.

This shit is still spooky af you guys. Especially drawing arrows across the graph.

I read a lot

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social democrat -> commie

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Was raised by left but still "liberal" parents, then discovered the left is a lot more than standard democrat rhetoric. But yeah aside from that major leap my opinions don't really change too much but just become more refined and nuanced.

there isn't such a thing as authoritarian socialism tbh.

what the fug?

Voted Liberal Democrat for Nick Clegg, was always a social libertarian who believed in public services and the higher taxes for the rich meme, but I never understood the real difference between capitalism and socialism, I thought it was a spectrum, in fact it's a line. So for a while I was all about the Green Party and I still support a great many of their polices but About two years ago now I learned about the difference between proles and the bourgeoise and from then on my life was changed forever. Now I'm anarchist communism or die

I don't get how people change so drastically.

I've never been right wing in my life. The most right I've ever been is soc dem.

Left my shit posting flag on

I was a lolber/Ron Paul-ite as a teenager to my early 20s. I started going left after my experience with the military when I was 26 and now I'm 30 and I am now a socialist…I guess, I don't know what flavor of lefty I am. All I know is that Capitalism is the problem and I still believe a state should exist.

I was only a right wing libertarian because I was only concerned about NSA and stuff.

Seems like a lot of people here started off as lolbertarians (myself included) when they were teenagers and slowly became more left wing as they got older and experienced work and so on

red one is right

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Sort of socdem (status quo) to quasi fashy to lolbert to no-theory socialist

yeah, makes me laugh when i see people calling communists teenagers

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Went from normal socdem to far left and more liberal

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nice flag


why did you turn into Kim Jong Un?

My entire life I've been far in the bottom left, right where they would place Kropotkin, even when I hadn't heard of Kropotkin and anarchosoc.

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I am top upper middle class and live in a super rich neighbourhood. Got really fed up with all the backslicked, neo-liberal bullshit that was going on here and thought they we're totally uncurable and we needed a global holodomor.

People are too stupid too make their own decisions. Unfortunately, that's also true of anyone who might end up in charge of a tankie dictatorship.

I'm surprised by the amount of people on here who started as conservatives. Most people start as liberals, so it really is very interesting.

Thinking of politics as a spectrum/continuum, no matter how many axes you include, rots your brain

rate me

It's not a lie. I used to be an anarchist as well, in fact I probably identified with anarchism for a longer period then I have ML.

2011 was a muh free market libertarian
2012 i was an ancap
2013 became an ancom
2014 still ancom
2015 started wondering around in socialist ideology limbo, didn't really know which ideology really fit me best
early 2016: was switching off back and forth between calling myself a trot, council communist, etc
summer 2016: autonomist
now: Maoist Third Worldist

Trumptard/10

Nah, I don't like Trump. I preferred Hillary over him. I didn't like her either.

You obviously loved one of the main candidates in the american election. It's not obvious which, however.

first i was like
but then i was like

That's the funny thing, I didn't like any of them. Not Bernie, Hillary, Trump, Gary, nor Stein.

What made you think that way?


;_;

Well, you know, the graph you posted

(it was ironic)

As do most europeans
American politics just suck ass

Yeah, obviously, but what about it?

Yeah, obviously, but what about it?

the political compass is a cylinder isn't it?, well, i mean, im in the intersection where im so anti-autoritarian, that im being autoritarian.

"Feminists and christians are so stupid ha ha ha."


"Why can't people do what they want and buy what they want MUH ATLAS."

>(Stopped care about economics If I had to say I was a socdem but I went FULL SOCIAL LIBERTARIAN SJW)

"Why can't people get gay married if they want? if we all smoked weed we would all chill."


"If we got rid of the state everyone would would be better…right?"


"Feminist is useless if it isn't tied to class struggle. What how will we ignite class struggle? Idk."


"We can ignite class struggle via the vangaurd and a desire to build a proud and strong country for our people."

How was my progress comrades?

You went to shit once you became 15

The fact that most people on this board only started getting a political ideology 2-3 years ago is very telling

Daily reminder if that if you don't believe communism transcends status-quo bullshit then you are already the type of counterrevolutionary that would've fought the Bolsheviks.

Pretty good. Get rid of Naz-part and read a few more books. Usually that happens on its own within the next years. At least it did for me. So far you're about one year ahead of me. Good luck comrade!

2011 - Liberal
2012 - Liberal who understood that communism wasn't autocratic dictatorship, but viewed it as always ending up like that, because muh hooman nachure.
2013 - Started to sway left into social-democrat territory
2014 - Started changing some views about feminism and other idpol related stuff. Started reading the manifesto in 'bout August. Ended year as a 70% social democrat. Bought three commie shirts (before I knew how shit Trotsky and trots are)
2015 - Finished the manifesto, was politcally dumbfounded and politcally lost. Came across r/communism and the CPGB-ML on youtube and saw their extreme rhetoric about Stalin *not* being a baby-eating demon god, tried to see if their evidence was shit, it wasn't. Came across Unruhe, became third-worldist. Developed my views about idpol and embraced political correctness. Dumped Unruhe. Finished State & Revolution, considered myself a leninist. Got to chapter 5 of Capital and haven't read since. Ended as basically a leninist.
2016 - Started reading mao, started learning about worker's history in the USA, laughing at Trump's dumbfuckery, abandoning various vestiges of liberalism within myself, read more mao, learned about left-communism, laughed at the dumbfuckery that are left-communists (The bolsheviks were bourgeois counter-revolutionaries), learned more dialectics, Trump gets elected, get banned from r/Fullcommunism (no reason stated and never replied to me), start to criticize myself over idpol, realize that maybe idpol isn't that great of an idea, come to Holla Forums on a whim, abandon idpol within 1 day of coming here. Ending the year as an anti-idpol MLM, non-third-worldist.

Mao was a complete idiot.

2010:Liberal(16 y/o)
2011:Communist
2014:Libertarian
2015-now:Fascist with some libertarian traits

Translation: "I was always a fascist and my commie phase consisted of not reading actual communist literature like Bordiga"

Isn't the last one kind of a contradiction.

Well, I belive in freedom of speech.
Thankfully, fascism can be flexible, so, no, it's not a contradiction.

I dunno how you all have such fantastical political journeys but mine is rather simple. I was a progressive who understood wealth class as the single greater determinant in life since I first thought about politics in high school. Always had pretty authoritarian views on the government's role in sustainability (one-child policy da bes) and environmental protection which this awful biased test has always sucked at teasing out. Then I finally got off my ass and learned what Marxism is after that cultural marxism bullshit during GG, and the transition to socialist has been pretty painless. I'd say my authoritarian tendencies have been mildly reduced after learning how and why the soviet models failed. I'm certainly not a communist because I'm unconvinced that communes can protect the environment against the tragedy of the commons in the absence of a regulatory body like the state.

This image is exactly the same as it was when I took it back on 4chan in 2012 or something.

i still agree with some ideas of bookchin, kropotkin and proudhon. I just can't imagine Anarchism as a viable alternative to capitalism if they are not organized under stronger leaderships like cnt-fai was.

One's an anarchist and the other's a tankie. They hold each other in high esteem since they came from the same guy but their differences always lead them to inadvertently sabotage each other's schemes alternating every episode.

the argument sound pretty good tbh.

Well I had a mixed start, I was heavily influenced by the Lolberts at the very beginning in 2009, Then I considered myself an Agorist, but I hated that the Ancrapie side was infested with proto fascists and Pinochet lovers.

then in this year, I finally realized that private property is theft and violent, and that capitalism is fucking slavery, and the workers must be the full recipients of the profit of their labour, I really like the Idea of market socialism.
I haven't de spooked myself so I still have some moralfag views.

Wouldn't you be on the left-liibertarian side then, not the right? Where you are now would be like a minarchist.

Went from a left-dem to a direct democratic market socialist

I feel like I'm a little bit more leaning to the left now a days, not by much, but a little closer to the middle.

I no longer want to associate myself with The Lolberts and the Ancraps in any possible way.

and no I'm not a minarchist those guys tend to be closer to the middle horizontal line.

20 hours in MS paint.

Very center to slightly left of center to bottom left area to bottom left corner tbh

yea, but gimp tho. fuck the botnet that's MS.

This basically in terms of the pic

I think I might actually hate you

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r8 mi dic

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Does anyone else have a similar history? Republican to Libertarian to Liberal to Left-Libertarian?

2008 was the first presidential election I could sort of comprehend, my parents are super Republican so they told me John McCain was better than Obama, I believed them because I was too young (11) to reason.
2009-10 I was starting to reason for myself more (even though it wasn't always good reasoning) because the election had gotten me to pay attention to social issues, but I still pretty much agreed with my parents on most things.
2011 the 2012 presidential election kicked off and because I spend way too much time on the internet and was a Republican I see Ron Paul and how dank he is; begin to identify as a libertarian
2012-13 I keep reading into libertarianism, realize I'm a fag, start reading Rothbard, become hardcore AnCap, watch Stefan Molyneux; at this point I'm indoctrinated and it has horrible fucking affects on me, I was really obnoxious
2014 realize I need to grow up a little, beginning to dawn on me that I'm not really thinking for myself, realize holy shit college is gonna be hard to pay for maybe the gubment could help me a lil? Gary 2016 I guess
2015 realize libertarianism was a pretty big scam, fed up with how they become a puppet of Stormfags by jumping on the anti-SJW bandwaggon, when a big reason I was a libertarian was because I like fags, and because the real world hits me hard; Bernie is kinda cool because college is hard to pay for but socialism doesn't work right? I guess I'm just a liberal
2016 Bernie got me to question capitalism, I can't afford college, I get a job and realize wage slavery sucks so I start browsing leftypol and reading and listening and watching a fuck ton of leftist stuff, realize it makes sense, it rekindles my rebellious spirit from Ron Paul days but is actually consistent

I'd like to note that my personality was never really that of a Auth-Right or even that much of a Lib-Right, I've always been a pretty compassionate and flexible and passive. I couldn't stand how right libertarians showed so little compassion for marginalized people, so I thought they just "didn't get it", but I think that libertarian left fits with who I've always been.

long journey but you made it fam

so you are 19?

I wonder how old is the average poster of Holla Forums

Not that guy, but I'm 24 soon and I'm pretty certain I'm older than the average poster which is unfortunate.

this is like saying you're a horrible baby killer but every now and then you pet a puppy

The political compass has the bizarre effect of placing even the most statist of vanguardists in the lower left corner. The thing is that every communist is ultimately an anarchist and would like to live under the communism that follows socialism. Nobody wants to just stop at the dictatorship of the proletariat. Sure, it's better than what we have now, but every commie really wants to live in Star Trek communism.

Yeah, I'm 19 now. Imagine me as an obnoxious high school Ron Paul freshman, lmao. I know there's a lot of underage people here (because I've met them) but personally I don't mind that much because the Alt Right has a head start on young indoctrination due to their monopoly on meme culture.

24 guy here - I highly recommend you get some work experience if you haven't already. Makes a big difference on your views compared to a lot of the uni students here who haven't been employed for (I was one of them)

Did you read my original post? I've been working the same job all year. It's hell but hopefully it will make me less of a dipshit when I do go to uni, which will hopefully be next fall (fingers crossed)

Holy shit yes. Actually being a worker gives a person a practical insight that studying just cannot provide.

I'm surprised that so many people saved or remember their old results.

Gradually moved from soc dem to anarchist, then Trot last year. Now I don't know. Trot, Luxemburgist, or anarchist depending on most convincing thing I've read lately.

I'm 27

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12 years old.

What's wrong with me? (I'm the second person you replied to).

here.
my nigga

Be honest.
Fascism is explicitly anti-(Classical)Liberal.
They were in practice New Dealers with Ultra-Nationalist characteristics.
You don't need Fascism to be a racist prick, most racists in the 19th century were Liberals.

Mussolini had some classical liberals as managers of the economy, so…

You sound like a mutualist, which is left libertarian. Unless this was hyperbole.

We need more commies in the ranks of the military to be honest.

I'm 25 user.

Just keep being an Anarchist and we will tear down the state and everything will be fine!

28.

Well, they are

Good to know I'm not alone. A lot of hate for market socialism here.

Same here.

Lolberts being anti-authoritarian does make them potential lefties, at least at heart. They just need to realize that the capitalist workplace is a dictatorship. The problem is that people think work is some kind of abstaction: the capitalist brings capital, the labourer brings labour, a miracle happens and magically everybody has new wealth.

done

Leaning towards market socialist here too.

Really interested to know why tbh

It really allows for the best of both systems. There are still things to watch out for though. Wish a good market-socialism thread could pop up and not get derailed by Holla Forumslocks, statistics, or tankies.

Lurker from 8/pol/ here.

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The test is designed so that if you get any result other than the green quadrant it means you're beyond hope.
You don't distrust the state enough and you love capital is what this tells me.

books?

I'm not posting with what I actually managed to score on the test, just where I think I should be.
I'm actually at (-2,-4) now for example. I'm actually "unbiasing/normalizing" the test results, if you want.

Do you people even know what mental integrity is? What the fuck is your fucking problem, you fucking fucks?

Started out a mellow lefty, went straight to the edge the moment I started seriously considering politics. I try not to think about the likely possibility that most tankie cunts bashing me for lacking ideological purity were probably fascists and/or memetarians just last week. Well, at least they have zeal.

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t.14yo castrist

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Oh, a Holla Forumstard with some brains, let's read what he says.
Okay, let's stop reading what he says.

But they aren't. They're fascists who are simply too cowardly to admit that they don't care for freedoms and will take what they want because they can, or are too stupid to realise that their deception is obvious to spot.
That's precisely why they support capitalism, you stupid bastard. Memetarianism as a whole is nothing more than an offshoot of fascism which calls its tyranny freedom and hopes that this deception can continue forever.

Let me guess, you're a tankie, right? Tankies always keep finding excuses for memetarians.

actually reads theory

Yes,I know it's paint autism, but it should give you a better understanding.

started off as a normie

Then I went full idealist conspiracy nut
Then I started reading theory and joined the party
Around 2015 I was enthusiastic as fuck, and proud about being a communist. I felt great
in 2016 I did really big shit for the party, but the stress from the party, my job, and my family ruined me, it made me soft. I have read a lot more theory, and because I put it to practice this year/last year I have a lot more knowledge than some idiot student

NOW - I basically sat out on a lot of party actions because being arrested would put my family in liability and they aren't doing too well right now, and because I am the most able of the family it has fallen on me to financially and morally support it. I just feel bitter and read Marx these days, and I hope things calm down so I can get back to party work.

Chilean, 20 y/o

Was mostly apathetic in 2011 even with the student protests and all, I was normie as fuck and mostly didn't give a shit about politics. I remember I was fervently pro-death penalty for murderers and rapists though (a view I'd still hold if the justice system wasn't so shitty)

By 2013 I was kind of a hippie anarkiddie

In 2015 I joined a M-L org and that's about it

should've stayed at 17, no one gives a shit about "building a strong nation" nowadays since people are totally alienated by their jobs, and thus an appeal to national identity is not something that could spark class struggle in most of today's capitalist nations. Better uphold labor demands.

te apuesto a que eres un comucuico

Don't all utopian ideologies?

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Fucking attention whores turning even fucking communism into a venue of showing off. Fuck off.

damn that nigga made it to the third volume…