Specific Leftist ideas

I like this board, but we are all theory sometimes.
ITT we propose specific ideas to start the slide left, I'll start:

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Tbh this is even more larp-y than the theory threads. None us will have the power to put any of these ideas in action so what is the point

maybe so, and maybe some of us will become more than chronic masturbators.
What is the point?
cmon man, thinking is good

As an ex-military guy, you have no idea how much I want this. Contractors like those private security fucks gouge the military.

Eisenhower warned us, we didn't listen.

Not policy but rather self-improvement

let's expand on this…like a rally? That just ends up preaching to the choir.

I'm not sure, but I'm thinking something less about ego-stroking ad more about getting people information. Something like going to that general strike or an occupy-like event and tapping into misdirected rage against capitalism.

Say there is 500 of us, there is bound to be a select few that will push through and reach a position of power.

Subversion is as important of a method as revolution.

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Spitballing here…..
Conferences on worker co-ops:How to start one, what help is available
movements to raise the minimum wage
Awareness of people like Corbyn (i know), who have policies in mind like forcing a company to offer right of first refusal to workers before selling or moving
Normalizing the left, get rid of the spectre of the USSR

I said we need to self-improve, not become sputtering autists who scream "opportunist" between mouthfuls of ravioli.


Yeah those are good ideas, the point is to bring information and ideas to people who wouldn't have access to them and get them starting to turn left. Things that don't abolish capitalism but better the material conditions under are good, as if implemented it allows us to build a stronger base when the time comes for revolution nd better our current material condition.

I think dumping the specters of the 20th century are really important, USSR, Catalonia, and everything else filed and it's time to move on.

Op should had called this policy hread
We should have more of these, they are good for people who isn't much into theory

I think that the state should offer different type of public education and let children chose them, traditional public education, militarized, scoutism, faggy education where there is no schedule, trade preschool.
And education should not be mandatory

what is the benefit here? I think we all agree that a well-educated proletariat is necessary for change. How can we insure this without education?
I accept that the current education works hard to instill cappie values, but wouldn't this just make things easier for the home-school crowd?
OK, I will call it policy thread in the future.

good point, if we could build a party that is not explicitly socialist, but founded on discrete issues, who would become viewed as a friend of the working class, we would have a voice when the time for real change comes.

Its just a thing I like to think about but the real thing is more complicated
My mom and her brothers are teachers. A thing I've discovered talking with them is that the objective of school is not to teach childrens basic science and humanities but to socialize them in a clashing enviroment But schools today fail at both things, children aren't learning anything at all and aren't becoming good citizens
The question should be, what do we want from public education and how do we guarantee it succeeds?

Good question, I would say literacy, math, economics, history/geography, and basic electrical knowledge
Idon't think there are any guarantees, but if teachers, like the rest of the workers, have a democratized work experience, they will help with that. Or is this too cute?

Now what about the question of health care? Personally, I believe first aid and medicine should be taught at highschools (as a seperate subject to science). I also reckon following a somewhat similar (but obviously improved) form of medicare.

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works#toc26

Capitalists and bureaucrats see healthcare as an industry — a way to extort money from people in need — and also as a way to appease the population and prevent rebellion. It’s no surprise that the quality of the healthcare often suffers. In the richest country in the world, millions have no access to healthcare, including this author, and every year hundreds of thousands of people die from preventable or treatable causes.

Since poisonous working and living conditions and lack of healthcare have always been major grievances within capitalism, providing healthcare is generally a chief goal of anti-capitalist revolutionaries. For example, unemployed piqueteros and neighborhood assemblies in Argentina commonly set up clinics or take over and fund existing hospitals left defunct by the state.

During the Spanish Civil War, Barcelona’s Medical Syndicate, organized largely by anarchists, managed 18 hospitals (6 of which it had created), 17 sanatoria, 22 clinics, 6 psychiatric establishments, 3 nurseries, and one maternity hospital. Outpatient departments were set up in all the principal localities in Catalunya. Upon receiving a request, the Syndicate sent doctors to places in need. The doctor would have to give good reason for refusing the post, “for it was considered that medicine was at the service of the community, and not the other way round.”[40] Funds for outpatient clinics came from contributions from local municipalities. The anarchist Health Workers’ Union included 8,000 health workers, 1,020 of them doctors, and also 3,206 nurses, 133 dentists, 330 midwives, and 153 herbalists. The Union operated 36 health centers distributed throughout Catalunya to provide healthcare to everyone in the entire region. There was a central syndicate in each of nine zones, and in Barcelona a Control Committee composed of one delegate from each section met once a week to deal with common problems and implement a common plan. Every department was autonomous in its own sphere, but not isolated, as they supported one another. Beyond Catalunya, healthcare was provided for free in agrarian collectives throughout Aragon and the Levant.

Even in the nascent anarchist movement in the US today, anarchists are taking steps to learn about and provide healthcare. In some communities anarchists are learning alternative medicine and providing it for their communities. And at major protests, given the likelihood of police violence, anarchists organize networks of volunteer medics who set up first aid stations and organize roving medics to provide first aid for thousands of demonstrators. These medics, often self-trained, treat injuries from pepper spray, tear gas, clubs, tasers, rubber bullets, police horses, and more, as well as shock and trauma. The Boston Area Liberation Medic Squad (BALM Squad) is an example of a medic group that organizes on a permanent basis. Formed in 2001, they travel to major protests in other cities as well, and hold trainings for emergency first aid. They run a website, share information, and link to other initiatives, such as the Common Ground clinic described below. They are non-hierarchical and use consensus decision-making, as does the Bay Area Radical Health Collective, a similar group on the West Coast.

I also propose that chemists and pharmacutical companies should be linked to up to the hospital, and can still sell medicine, only the wealth is distributed amongst the workers (to each their own according to their need etc)

Interesting…don't really like the part about alternative medicine ( I like double-blind tests), but it goes to show that healthcare does not have to be a commodity.
Interesting, but is research one of those few things that would work better centralized? Or with the leftist structure, would they be more inclined to work together, sharing profits throughout the infrastructure?

Yeah the alternative medicine part is pretty stupid, but I did do a copy and paste of the link.


I think there should be more specific sets for research facilities, which I also believe can be linked to the hospital in some way. For example, there'd be research facilities for specific types of cancer, and every two weeks there'd be a meeting as to the progress they do, and democratically they can decide what may need to be done, as well as providing mutual aid to each other.

I'm more inclined with the working together, but sharing profits could help in regards to the "each to their own according to their need".

Also, reducing the prices on quality medical appartus's would be helpful. With more workers control there'd be a greater rate of products made.

I also suggest a form of cadets programs. (though this can be voluntary).

Sports should be centred around archery, shooting, fencing, some form of boxing and other forms of athletics.

Same with the NHS in the UK, It's forced to pay thousands for pills that it has the capacity to produce itself yet it can't because it can't train people itslef a contractor has to do it (and the only contractor allowed to train people belongs to the same conglomerate that the drugs company belongs to, go figure)

Even if theu're not an end in themselves, it can't be streesed enough how impotant it is to develop the cooperative model. We'll never be able to have people collectively managing anything without prior analogous experience.
Within capitalism frame, that would translate into a favorable tax regime for cooperatives.

Even if they're*
how important it is*

Rather than max salary, why not make it that you can't earn more than a percentage of workers income? Wages go up with profits.
Destroys capital despite productivity increase.

Ii this "transitional program"?

Reasonably-looking demands that cannot be fulfilled under Capitalism, which leads to dissatisfaction with the government and (hopefully) violent revolution.


They are good for everyone, I think. Theory is dead without practice.

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That doesn't work
Porky's don't make money from their salaries but from the profits of investments, those are not tied to their salaries.

In market socialism an enterprise should not grow after certan point, like anti monopoly laws they will forcefully split the enterprise but more criteria needs to be tought
For example american comic publishing houses are small as shit but in the comic market there is an olygopoly, how is the law supposed to look at this?

None of us run a country my dude.

When bailing out a business convert it to a co-op and bailing out a bank convert it to a credit union.

Because the MIC paid shills to tell anyone who questioned them that they were unpatriotic and WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM?