What hope is there for the modern left...

What hope is there for the modern left? The state of Swedish socialism makes me depressed and more and more people are leaving the moderate welfare ideologies that were popular. At the same time, liberalism is growing rapidly.
Is there actually anything we can do for the left? (Both globaly and in Sweden)

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Do not despair

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Also the Podemos in Spain (though they sometimes pander to idpol) are getting traction.

What's wrong with the Vansterpartiet?

Also I'd be more worried about the Swedish Democrats

They desire an open border which I have many problems with. We don't have room for more people. The ghettos that have been created for the immigrants has led to a new culture which is extremely sexist and racist towards us Swedes. There have been an increasing amount of rape crimes where the rapists have said the reason they did it was because "Swedes are so disgusting".
The Swedish Democrats are misslead, but no fascists. They have spoken several times about helping the Swedish workers. I'm sure a lot of them are closet-comrades.

Forgot to add
The most immigrant populated cities (like Malmö) have places where the police don't enter because of immigrants beating them up in groups, or just destroying police equipment.
Also, a lot of the immigrants are Liberals or just straight up An-Caps.

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form a cell

Fascists always do this. They make grand appeals to the workers then stab them in the back to help their rich masters.


Well I agree that multiculturalism is pretty shit and only exists to perpetuate divisions.

Just like commies tbh famalam.

To me its almost inevitable that left will win this game when you think about technological advances and globalization. The most important thing nonetheless is to never lose hope but to keep pushing and pushing until final victory.

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Right, because being an illiterate starving peasant was so much better.

The rich can flee if they want. In fact I'd prefer that, send them all to Antarctica or something. They're nothing without their wealth and property. And good luck escaping under world communism.

gee i wish. thats atleast better then being neoliberal sellouts

You sound like you're an upper middle class, coffeshop revolutionary, white kid. Everything you said was FriaTider tier shit
kys


Literally nothing in this post is true, people.


t. libing in malmö

The strategy for socialism in Sweden should try to emulate the more restrictive immigration policies of SD, as many left-leaning people turn to SD as they wish for less immigration but have no leftist party to turn to for such a thing. When it comes to labour, the policy should take note of how the state promotes a perpetual class war in which trade unions have to negotiate with capitalists for scraps, and instead argue of course for the replacement of capitalism not only as a way to emancipate the working man, but also as a response to the issues that swedes are most concerned about.

Revolutionary socialism in Sweden won't happen unless the conditions (as history always shows) are bad enough for it to actually happen, and the best way for it to happen is to elect the Sweden Democrats, who will weaken the welfare state (read: sedative) and agitate leftists around the country, as well as former voters who would potentially be disappointed with their rule.

it would probably be groups like Nordfront that would gain from a revolution tought

If you keep covering everything in your disgusting Soviet nostalgia, there is no hope left for us.

If immigrant communities actually establish police-free neighborhoods and attack police who enter then that's pretty based

I suspect you just fell for nazi propaganda though

There will be high demand for socialism when automation really kicks really in. All these unemployed people have revolutionare potential.

Leftists should do the same tbh

they attack firemen and the ambulance too.

Also I doubt a lot of poor Somali immigrants are an-caps lmao


Agreed


Could you provide some evidence that this is a regular occurrence?

Yes. Join a party and help it on its groundwork. Party membership in Scandinavia generally has been terrible over the last decade. We also need to strengthen our grip on unions, we can`t allow them to de-politicize themselves and get away form our grip.

And the reaction from the left that would grow out of Nordfront's bullshit would counteract them. It really depends on the type of failure that SD would bring.

The regions of sweden run by socialists as I was told by a Swede is that they look like a dump. Someone needs to teach them how to not be retarded.

Wew, then it's confirmed, the socialists in Sweden only run dumps

Voted for Dan Koivusalo last election, how about you?

International solidarity is one of the main tenants of socialism, the problems with Swedish immigration policy is mainly that it gives legitimacy to the Sweden democrats

Olof Palme skulle vara besviken kamrat

Li Anderson

The left is dead. Something new will rise in its place, but it won't be called "left" except by its critics. There is growing support for (lacking a better label) "good" policies such as UBI, financial regulation, greater protections for workers, greater public spending, and drug law reform. The left has just permanently tarnished its own image by getting overrun by liberals and id-pol.

My nigga, e du Finlandsvensk?

Fenno-Swedes who aren't leftists like here because she is a young, charming, intelligent and female. Lots of people I knew who are a bit centre left said they would have voted for her if they could.

This basically sounds like American social liberals, AKA the democrats in five years, I don't think this should be confused with the left.

I think the policies you are describing is the natural sort of policies that center left parties will be doing in the near future, I don't think it has anything to do with the left.

Do you have any ideology? Because if I didn't know better I'd think you are a "pragmatist" liberal

what a qt

ikr :D

Nej.

I can agree with that, she is something that party is going to need but I would rather want to put end to the tradition where new chairperson of the party is usually the former chair of leftist youth.
I can`t really stand with her on matters of nuclear energy,UBI or immigration but that`s just my preference

=THIS IS NOW A QT BUT POWERFUL LEFTISTS THREAD=


She isn't perfect, but who is?

POST LEFTIST QTS

Immigration controls would be a start along with UBI and reduction in work hours. We have a massive oversupply of labor in first world countries so there's no real reason to support more third world immigration outside of >muh feelings.

It isn't enough to just institute immigration controls, you need to kick out the ones that are already there

[citation needed]

jacobinmag.com/2015/09/sweden-social-democracy-olaf-palme-assasination-reforms/

Ever heard of a thing called social democracy?

Instead of citing professional liars with an agenda, why don't you ask the Swedes themselves?

Yeah, those are the guys who killed Rosa Luxemburg, right?

Natsoc/Nazbol is the solution

nazis pls. Your protectionism is nothing compared to the force of international capital.

It doesn't matter if immigration restrictions actually work. You aren't going to have success in electoral politics on a platform promising more third world immigration. If it's important to you that this is preserved, you should probably just eschew electoral politics altogether.

old white people don't live forever