You can only post ITT if you are a worker

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If you don't got a job, be fucking grateful.

english teacher reporting in

I've done kitchen work, coffee shop, labour, retail and currently personal trainer.

I work on the oil patch in western Canada.

future Commissar reporting in
i worked for a major US political party last political cycle

Being a barista isn't a job?

21st century coffee shops are bourgeois AF

I'm a shopping cart pusher, is that proletarian enough? I get only about $12,000 a year.

Ya for the customers, in a lot of places I see the proles behind the counter don't look like their having a good time at that chic coffee shop but maybe I'm wrong.

Walmart?

A lot of the customers are proles pretending to be bourgeois.

There is very little real SNLT left. The Singularity™ is bullshit, but we are going to hit an inflection point (probably within our lifetimes) where computers and AI will be able to replace humans in almost everything. Most SNLT left will be DIY level stuff. We're heading for an automated future. Whether it's capitalist or communist will depend on whether capitalism collapses and/or the people get "woke" fast enough to course correct before the machines make proles redundant and the bourgeoisie just kill all of us.

proletariat AF

Unemployed construction worker here.
Taking pride in alienated labor is pretty fucking lame. And if you don't work you're still a proletarian as long as your not a property owner.

what about neets who live on gibsmedats based autism
they're essentially leaching off the state

Both of these are true. Starbucks is where service job wage slaves overpay to get the prepackaged bourgeois artist cafe experience. Yeah theyre stupid as fuck but most of them arent even petty bourgeosie just moderately muh privileged students.

And baristas are just people who need a job. Some of them are obnoxious classcucks who take their """barista""" profession seriously but most are just people in the uniform.

Im a general contractor b t w, in case anyone mistakes my solidarity for a triggered barista

No, a grocery store.

I guess it's not as bad as it really could be. The people who call in are usually nice and patient. My boss is fairly lenient. My coworkers are alright, even if I can barely relate to them. I can decorate my cubicle.

I've only been here for a few months, but it just feels sort of hollow to me. I spend most of my time at work dicking around on my phone on Holla Forums since there's no way in hell I'm coming to Holla Forums on my work computer so why the hell do I need to be there 40 hours a week?

Stay warm out there comrade

Holy fuck I used to work at Starbucks, the manager was so obsessed with Starbucks. Man, I hated working there.

But youre not even in the minority. I have 2 friends who work there because it is a decent job (read: available job with reasonable hours) and they despise starbucks and the people who frequent it far more than i do

Once the means of production are liberated they will learn to contribute. The state is the mechanism of exploitation that the bourgeois use to leech off of the of the proletariat by alienating our MOP. Their economy isn't made to employ everybody and it uses job scarcity to keep the wages and demands of the workers low. People need to survive, even if they aren't producing alienating value for the ruling class. Don't blame NEETs and artists, blame capitalists for taking away our potential to craft our own destiny with the resources that belong to us all.

Thank you I will, it can get quite cold in this time of year.

Cosmetics store retail worker chiming in.

All of this (except that I work at a gas station).

NEETs are part of the reserve army of labor (scabs if you want to say so). As much as they may say "I'll never work" they are part of the proletariat and will one day either be forced to work for their benefits, work because said benefits or parental support has disappeared, or be sent to prison and be forced ro work making products for Whole Foods.
This much becomes apparent when you work minum wage retail. Sure, folks flow in and out, but the class of marginal workers is always there and always plentiful enough that you can be fired over petty shit and someone else will be there next week.

These niggers can fuck off.

Thinking blue collar work isnt the backbone of the American Economy today… Please go shovel your own shit.

Long live the IWW

Its not fucking fair

But would you seriously deny that industrial work has largely been replaced with service jobs?

you're producing labor value, so it's work

What the fuck is wrong with baristas?

Are inventors and innovators.

They aren't.

Barista detected.

Wow the tankie is the one showing solidarity for once

I can even argue that some prostitutes are proletariat. As are most pornstars.

Didn't I alienate NEETs or something?

Baristas are workers too you retard.

You are not the boss of me!

V9k glorious NEET is here and you can't do anything to stop it.

Also of course prostitutes and pornstars are wtf? Goddamn marxbots.

My understanding of class is it's not the job any particular person is doing at any particular time, it's the role they play in the reproduction of the system. Baristas are code for neoliberal shills, idpol anti-worker class warriors, who infest population centres.

I didn't realize baristas owned the means of production.

Barista. Worked since I was 16

Some guy said on another thread than Worker in English only aply to blue collars. Do you also abide by this

No, because barely any manual laborer jobs are left.

No. If you don't own the MoP you're a worker. Dividing the working class based on income or some nostalgic fetishization of early 20th century labor conditions only serves to aid the ruling class.

That is not a socialist understanding of class.

Working for a wage makes you a worker. It doesnt matter if youre a coal miner or work on the top floor of a corporate building. Being a worker isnt an identity based on aesthetics and lifestyle, it is your RELATION TO THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION. That is not saying that certain proles do not suffer much more or our better suited for resistance. It's just a fact about class association using a vaguely Marxist or socialist system of definitions.

Newfag here, what are the MoP? I assume that means Means of Production, but what would that be in practice today?
How can that mentality be used in the information era? I strongly believe that something like facebook should be in the hands of the users, would that be an example?

Then the user controls the means of production, doesn't he?
Do you mean open source software?

chupame el pico

Yes, a shame it hasn't taken off more.

I ask about the MoP in regards to facebook because I used to work for a smallish company managing online presence.

I'm somewhat new to all the theory, in 2016/17 what is the MoP generally? Excuse my poor phrasing.

No wonder you're such an insufferable faggot, I hope one of your students stabs you.

If you are an owner of a small business (like a gas station/hardware store/barber shop/etc), then you are bourgeois by definition since you own your own means of production to earn an income. This isn't really possible anymore (because of crazy regulations and Monsanto butting in) but if you owned your own farm to make a living then you are also owning your means of production.

You forgot one piece of it. You have to also employ someone under you to work the MoP that you own. If a person can work the entirety of the business (as in they don't need any help) then they are not bourgeois

There is a gray area however. Some small businesses are entirely operated by family and friends or actively accomodate and train new employees as apprentices that are well paid and have a say in the company - the power relation is still flawed, but these small shops and producers operate in effect more like cooperatives than corporations and I wouldnt consider them an enemy but rather a demographic to be won over.