Did Heroes of the Storm flop? Why?

What sort of retarded ape-like noodleman body does that marine have? Do you have any clue the fucking should dislocation wearing that shit armor would cause?

It's almost like niche markets are a real thing.

it's almost like people don't actually enjoy ASSFAGGOTS and their perceived popularity is just inflated statistics. also no new porn opportunities.

They are trying to get OW players in it by giving away OW skins to people who can endure 15-30 games WITH friends, which is horrible on itself.

what? i thought it was doing well for itself.
i appreciate it for trying to do away with (some of) the things that make assfaggots suck. it manages to be more casual but simultaneously more interesting than the majority of the market.

Tychus is supposed to be xbox hueg

This is the only one of these games that I play maybe a dozen times a year at most. I'm not tryhard enough that I care about all the minutiae of the gook clicker extremes of assfaggots, but occasionally this is fun. It's still an assfaggot so it of course is mostly nofun.

T don't want to talk about this game here though. Honestly the game is just not worth talking about.

High barrier of entry. Anyone with the patience to learn ASSFAGGOTS is already playing ASSFAGGOTS. League players have already grinded 1 game for champions and are stockholm'd into never leaving all that progress behind. Dota players like playing Dota, if they wanted a more casual game they would already be playing LoL.

I'm pretty sure it's still growing, abet at a slowish pace

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It's almost like oligopolies are a real thing.

Get dumpstered more, shitstain.

because they didn't add in Fenix yet.

yeah, just what the hell are they waiting for?

some characters are unbalanced as hell

I don't know what you're doing but I play pretty casually and I can always afford the new hero. They rebalanced the quests so you're always going to get "win 3 games" or "play 8 games" if you don't have them. You can earn at least 1.2k every 3 days from quests and another 1k from the brawl each week.
But I don't buy every single character either. Samuro is the most boring dude in the world and I don't care much for Varian so I have almost 50k gold saved up for BlackThorn or Zurvan the second they're announced.

But this is true. Diablo is fucking retarded right now. Ragnaros and Thrall do too much of everything without any weaknesses. Most of the healers are awful garbage. Tracer isn't good but it sucks because a lot of characters can't do anything but wait to die if they end up alone with her. Raynor is still bugged so his ultimate will wipe your whole team single handedly in under 5 seconds while vaporizing any buildings you might have had.

Pretty much this. Didn't help that Blizzard were lazy as fuck with it's development. It's ranked mulitplayer system ripped was from Hearthstone at first before being changed at a later date. Also despite a June 2015 release (when it left "Beta"), it would be another year until an unranked draft mode was added. The high price of new characters didnt help much too (10 USD). In short, Heroes of the Storm had no chance of ever being a big hit. It fills the niche for a more casual ASSFAGGOTS with shorter games. It won't ever be anything more than that though, no matter how hard Blizzard tries to push it as an "E-SPORT™".
That being said it is my preferred title for the off chance I do play ASSFAGGOTS. The game has some good ideas but also a lot of bad ones.

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Varian patch was pretty good balance wise. Ragnaros patch went a bit too crazy with the reworked EQ/BL/Dibbles
Great for me 'cause I play all of them

I'd rather deal with ASSFAGGOTS than travis posters.

god help you if they have a morales while youre stuck with brightwing. the ones that dont suck are game changers.
i think there arent too many dead weights in the game considering theres 60 characters, but supports do have a higher concentration

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There's no mention of the game in their latest financial results
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ftfy

But he's awesome!
You literally do nothing but stand around people and passively heal them, giving movespeed just because.
He's great because you can disrupt a lot of their plays with polymorph which already makes him far more skilled than any other healer and his Ulti with the winds is amazing to cockblock faggots.
You spend the entire game feeling like an asshole that did nothing but make the other guys miserable and yet you'll reach the end and see absurd healing on your part.

Everytime

you can just polymorph morales and then murder then shit out of her like your team should be doing everytime anyway.

The vast majority of players are in europe

do you have any actual criticism or are you just shit posting? i never under stood why people go into the threads just to post reaction images and talk shit. and if you say "because it's fun" then get the fuck off Holla Forums since apparently that not a valid reason to like shit on this board.

It doesn't serve any particular demographic, the game isn't as casual as League of Legends nor is it as deep as Dota2,

As long as Blizzard keeps sponsoring Tournaments it will remain alive but it will never reach LoL/Dota numbers and the second Blizzard stops supporting it the game will die.

It's funny to think that Blizzard rejected Icefraud when he pitched Dota to them, even before LoL was a thing, the market would be so different.

It's got the shortest matches. That's the selling point they go for.

I only care about the minority posting here though.

ASSFAGGOTS

Doesn't change the fact that they're fighting an uphill battle. I guess it serves them right, now they know how every MMO developer felt when going against WoW.

And again, the second they stop supporting it the game will die and I don't think it can be fixed with just money. Dota2's International was 20 million this year and yet LoL still has a bigger playerbase. So I guess they're fucked.

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i see your flag and you raise good points, but the numbers just arent there considering hes not really any more disruptive than any other support.

i just dont understand the meme where morales is easy to kill comes from. just how are people speccing her? okay sure, shes no li li when it comes to casually strolling out of danger without a care in the world, but thats the entire reason you would pick li li.

that would be a good selling point if people understood why that was. the selling point should be "action, maps and objectives" because short matches are a byproduct of those things.

Never mentioned anything along those lines.

I miss playing Dota casually on the WC3 days. Does anyone know if it's still active?

Flag is a remnent from other threads, damn thing is persistent.
Point still stands, Brightwing is like playing the game stoned, you just stand there being usefull and having fun while at the same time requiring some more skill with fast reaction times for your polymorph or your teleport.

Doesn't Morales only become hard to kill if she specs to get healing from her beam too? Because otherwise, she has her grenade to avoid people, a shield that does nothing and that's it for staying alive. And considering she needs to be very close to help people, that means risking herself far more than most other healers.

This was the thing I liked about the game when I play it, "laning" phase is done in 2-3 minutes at most, less if you want to try something different. After that, the fight is all over the map not just for minions and farm but merc camps and whatever map objective there is.
The burden of knowledge is much shorter, yo just gotta know the heroes, not an entire item shop and how it interacts with the heroes. You can pretty much start having fun and understand what's happening very fast.

And yet you still get a lot of variety for the things you can do and play as. Abathur has a very unique playstyle I fucking love and Zagara, along with every other "siege" hero is great and something rarely seen in similar games.

Brightwing does sustained healing and has a instant cast point-click CC. Does great vs enemy dive compositions. Only lacking burst healing. Also has a global teleport.

Medic being impossible to kill depends on her team. If they can't break your frontline you win.

The game has different maps, something both Dota and LoL don't have.

It has the lowest barrier of entry of all ASSFAGGOTS.

What a terrible, horrible thing for a game to be easy enough that new players can pick it up quite easily. Just think about how great and sucessfull it would be if it required 600 hours until you finnaly understood what was happening?

It'll still be supported as long as they got the IP and money to spare, even if it's fucking shit, look at this old trailer, it reeks of fucking ego.

Morales is sort of hard to kill because you really need to commit to killing her. 40% damage reduction is really no joke and she restores HP out of battle as fast as Marudan so poking at her doesn't do much. Of course she needs to be standing right next to her tank or dps to do anything so just diving her is a stupid move most of the time.

But then she's not very good in the first place. She isn't making people invincible like Medivh and it's not impossible to just outdps her healing. Any character with a stun or silence fucks her over way harder than a character like Rhegar or Furion since their skills automatically work over a long duration.

sure, thats a very important talent. theres rarely a reason you wouldnt take the shared healing. intensive care is never going to be important, if youre worried about a single target getting murdered thats what safe guard and grenades are for and if youre THAT concerned you can get bioshield and just think one step ahead.
the really important thing is how you spec her grenades. whoever you want to sit out of the fight is going to unless you miss. how you want to go about these upgrades depends on the matchup, but in general you want extra knockback and 2 charges. occasionally the slow can be a hilarious snagging tool, if it comes down to that.

emerald wind does great against dive comps but making it difficult to initiate is practically in the job description for anyone in the support class.
but im glad to hear that i just suck at brightwing and somebody out there is getting use out of her. or maybe morales is just a better tard wrangler. when brightwing does work it is satisfying.

also the best mount in the game is the jew which poor brightwing cant use.

not Overwatch

No.
The game is great and has a huge playerbase, it's just that V hates it because it's not autism lane farming simulator and because it's Blizzard.

its definitely not overwatch, they didnt give tyrande a butt reduction and the maps are actually fun

seconding this. I miss the old dota

The only real problem was that the WC3 engine was really bad at handling 10 players at once - so the game would stutter and freeze and people would timeout all the time. But Dota 1 certainly had more charm than Dota 2, sure. I miss it too.

Morales, like nova only seem hard to kill in quick match. with a competent team, they are pretty easy to counter against.

step out of the circle faggot

kill your self

I thought about giving this game a shot so I tried watching some gameplay videos to give me an idea of what to expect. Every fucking video I found completely killed all of my enthusiasm. Why does every faggot that makes videos on this game have to over analyze this shit?

take any old assfaggots. replace the items with talents on level up that modify abilities or improve the hero. 2 ults to choose from per character. abilities damage/healing/shield scale with levels usually 4% per level. exp is shared globally for the team.
there are destructible mini fountains around most 'towers' that regenerate your health and mana by a certain percentage over time with a bit of a cooldown between visits, as well as restoration orbs dropped from certain lane creeps that provide a weaker similar effect.
defeating neutral creeps recruits them for free, they will march down a nearby lane and attack.
there will be skirmishes throughout the game very early on because of the strong emphasis on objectives. essentially, this is the one you play if you enjoy interacting with the enemy team and wished it happened earlier on.

Shit balance (Stealth heroes get away with murder, some heroes like Sonya and Gazlow are really fucking terrible), no option to choose a map, maps suck and aren't fun, game feels rushed for esports, forced esport shit that backfired, sleazier than LoL, terrible roster, really terrible skins and colors that are half-assed and incomplete, sleazy microtransactions that make Lol's pious, and the fuck awful grind for any hero. Talent gating also put a major dent in the game, and it was a year too late when they removed gating. It's so soulless and horrible I cringed from nearly every extra thing the characters said when you click on them too many times (Nova is the biggest offender). It uses the shitty SC2 engine as well.

This is what happens when you don't listen to legit feedback from testers, only listening to fanboys who are sucking your dick, hoping you'll plug their shitty gaming careers/streams. I tested the Alpha, and despite the problems, it looked like a fun game; then the Zagara came out, and all Hell broke loose.

It's funny how Blizzard tried to make a copy of what somebody took from them, and failed at it. The kicker was this was supposed to be a chill af game to play until Bobby Kotick and Chris Metzen saw the Dota and Lol money. Fuck them for ruining HoTS.

This game's entry is a joke even for the hardest hero. The real problem is you can pick a hero, but you're pretty fucked in solo queue (it's worse than Lol's and Dota's).

Fuck with your bait, sjw-fanboy-shill.

Assfaggots are no longer the main trend. I don't think anyone wants to play anything that isn't Dota/LoL UNLESS it has a super cool gimmick to it that breathes some life into the genre.
In other words, MONDAY NIGHT COMBAT 2 WHEN

battleborn was a giant fuckup

Battleborn was not MNC. Overbotch is not MNC and neither is Paladins or Gigantic or Paragon or SHITE.

1: it doesn't have enough depth to hold people the same way any of the really popular assfaggots do
2: it doesn't make people feel special enough - the entire team levels up at the same rate, so that one player carrying the entire team doesn't get to feel like a special snowflake i actually feel this is a good thing but then again i hate assfaggots so
3: wasn't marketed as hard as blizzard is capable of marketing something, especially if they wanted it to be the Next Big Esport Thing
4: all opinions for or against blizzard aside, it's objective fact that their team has lost that spark they used to have to make great games. i felt that HOTS just felt empty and shallow and "wrong" somehow and i can't be the only one
5: not enough sexy female characters, ergo not as much population-increasing porn

Half of the costume/skin ideas they have are fucking shit.

They are so out of touch sometimes its retarded.

They should thank their lucky stars for their Pixar Team Fortress 3, it probably saved their ass.

Well the problem is that the only characters they can really bring to the game are characters from any of their existing franchises, since that's pretty much the whole point of the game. So they can't really make any new waifu-bait, only bring in old ones.

There's always skins, but like dubmeister said, most are pretty shit.

I agree with your other points though (even if I think "depth" in ASSFAGGOTS is laughable). I also agree that team leveling is a good idea, mostly so that you can do the intuitive thing of actually helping your teammates as opposed to the autistic last-hitting shit.

I generally hate ASSFAGGOTS, but HotS is still the only one I can tolerate, mostly because a game only lasts 15-20 minutes so I'm not spending for-fucking-ever in one match. Even then I rarely play it more than like an hour every couple months, mostly just to break up some monotony.

It was a disaster, say what you want about ASSFAGGOTS/MOBAs/Dotaclones but they do have some kind of value in the insanely complex ways that all of their mechanics can interact from game to game and thanks to the garbage control scheme this is pretty much their only value. HotS removes those complex interactions which makes it absurdly boring since there is absolutely no enjoyment to be derived from it.

Even hardcore Blizzcucks will admit that HotS is dogshit and that's pretty damning coming from the faggots that goy out on Hearth$tone cards, Overwatch $kins, and their WoW $ubscription.

thats my point. it could have been

Should have kept it as a SC2 custom map the way it was originally planned.

Course they figured that custom maps were hard to monetize, and that fell through. They still tried it with the Nova missions stuff though.

I've really got to disagree. The balance isn't THAT bad. It tends to mostly be bad when a new hero comes out or in Quick match. Heroes like Sonya and Gazlowe are also rather situation. If you're playing quick match, and not unranked draft, then heroes like nova and zeratul will likely seem better than they actually are.

I think Nova is pretty good with covert Ops, basically making her a better Murky. Just sucks because she's useless at objectives and only has one viable build (one in the chamber).
Zeratul is a real terror in quick match for sure. You can't outplay shadow assault if you have an unlucky team composition and even if you do void prison is still one of the best skills in the game.

I'd agree that things are more balanced than not but when someone is OP they're really OP.

There's no reason to use Sonya or Gazlowe when others do their job better. You only proved my point that the balance is really bad.

The heroes were designed to be situational, there shouldn't be a hero who's good in every situation and map. In Black Hearts Bay, Sonya is a very good hero in that map. Mercenary Lord at level 4 allows her to take camps, and still do damage. Leap at level 10 is a good engage and excellent at helping to burst down squishies. Don't play enough Gazlowe to give an opinion about him.

But how exactly? In Quickmatch, the team compositions can be awful and unfair to one team or another. In ranked games, Nova and Zeratul aren't chosen often because there are other heroes who provide far more utility. this appleies more to Nova than Zeratul because nova has no escape, and can only really help out in team fights and nothing else. Countless heroes counter their stealth like Kharazim or Tassadar.

Dota 2 and LOL are better, but thats not saying much.
Also

Gazlowe used to be really good with jungling and getting mercs because he can keep himself alive (He had one good ult for sieges). Nerfs made him almost unplayable on any map because other heroes do his job better. Quickmatch is such a bad mode because you can't fully use a hero thanks to everyone picking heroes blindly. Who thought a Russian Roulette version of all pick was a great idea?!

overly simplified and boring

i like it because i like making the best with what i have.