Reminder that idpol is the one thing we need to fight as leftists...

I'm not the guy you replied to but

There are plenty of inequalities, although they stem from class and historical inertia more than anything. The proper critique of liberal idpol isn't "[identity]ism is over", but that liberal idpol doesn't address actual issues, instead manufacturing controversy for the sake of commodified news (clickbait and the like).

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Aside from this excerpt being more or less explicitly reactionary, what is wrong with either of those things you predict? The age of consent varies a lot throughout the world. In parts of the western world its 18 and in others it's 14. The bigger picture here is that sex will become less taboo and get demystified (the overindulgence in byzantine identity is part of this process). As for autism, it's a poorly understood phenomenon and for a lot of people it's not really a problem and it's a perfectly fair claim that calling them disabled or sick or whatever is demeaning. For the autism thing, it's important to understand the context, that AUTISM BAD hype is so intense that parents avoid vaccination because they'd rather risk the kid dying of polio than having autism.

No, capitalism is the one thing we need to fight. idpol has been a distraction from that, both as something to support and something to fight against. We must organize against capitalism. We must educate and arm as many people as possible.
So fuck off Holla Forums

I happen to have done research on autism for my phd, and you have no idea what you're talking about. At least remove that flag and call yourself what you are, an ignorant liberal

as for autism, it's a poorly understood phenomenon and for a lot of people it's not really a problem and it's a perfectly fair claim that calling them disabled or sick or whatever is demeaning

meant to quote this.

you don't seem to be able to grasp what reactionary is. then again you probably haven't read theory

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Cool now post something that addresses anything I said.

Freaking out over the democratization of sex and gender theory is reactionary, yes. You don't have to think that liberal idpol is correct to appreciate that people have the freedom to do it.

>>>/reddit/

These are meaningless, they are buzzwords, they are feel good issues, they aren't even real issues, they are immaterial and have nothing to do with class struggle. People aren't "freaking out" about these things, they're telling to fuck off for obfuscating and playing redirection games with the real issue and the only issue - class.

Fucking what?

I don't think this kind of thing is particularly important compared to class, but it does directly relate. Gender roles and the like have been strictly enforced by the ruling class throughout history, along with all sorts of other ideology. People being free to self-determing any aspect of their lives is strictly preferable to being forced into conformity with the ruling class's paradigm.

How is the following quote not freaking out over dumb kids grappling with sex and gender in a context where authorities on the matter don't really exist anymore?
Here is something I think will happen, I think that in 10-15 years when trans-queer-non-binary special snowflake/mental illness rights are a done thing,

This thread is an absolute failure, starting with this faggot of an OP.
What? The way this is worded is completely ambiguous. On one hand, it could mean that we should get rid of the identity politics, but on the other, that we should be utilising idpol. Doesn't this prove, then, Žižek right that those claiming to live inside a post-ideological world are utterly liars? That when we try to escape ideology in our dreams we find ourselves most concentrated thereon?
Not only is the premise stupid (reddit being a horrible place with unusable, hideous looking UI, and tumblr which seldom serves more than an echochamber) but now you also have ITT people telling others to gb2 >>>/leddit/ and so on. Who the fuck cares? I would rather those people come to their realisations about the most dire of circumstances on their own, rather than have to fight against a stacked deck of insane mods, and 'diplomatic' relations where we secure a place, albeit a hidden one, on reddit and tumblr. No, fuck off and eat shit.

Yeah just forget about all those economic struggles and focus on some teenagers ridiculous reddit post/tumblog instead. This is why Holla Forums is stupid.

Go away liberal trash.

If you read the bootlicking on /r/socialism right now, they’ll call an insistence on class being the paramount issue a “distraction” or “infighting”. The fact is, class actually has taken a back seat to liberal struggle in many communities. They criticize the “brocialist canard” that these issues will largely disappear under a truly equitable society or that these issues are best tackled after the revolution, but their arguments amount to immaterial hand waving — they just have the authority to silence these notions.

Socialism does not need black people, or women, or disabled people. It just needs workers and revolutionaries. Choosing socialism to advance your group is the real “distraction”.

These discussions are presented as “intersectional”, but that doesn’t change that they aren’t fundamentally socialist in nature and therefore shouldn’t be the primary concern of socialist communities.

This is never clear. Discussion of identity politics is done in leftist spaces for its own sake. These are the same people that will alway prioritize voting under bourgeois democracy to real insurrection. If they wish to abolish capitalism or the state, it is secondary to their desire to advance the group they see themselves a part of.

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One can wish for a better world…

Unlike you, our movement isn't defined by the white suburbanite

Don't you fuck hookers since you don't have any game and lied about being a politician's assistant or some crap

It was not a lie fam.
I was in the youth council until 2015.

In addition to being in student unions regional leadership and in the party`s regional government.

Yes.

You're not even a bureaucrat

How impressive

hahahaha

I worked briefly on city's cultural committee in 2016 and I am employed by the city currently at it`s art gallery so technically…

You're a basic bitch?

kek he's a racist socdem that can't get girls

basically Holla Forums

No, you're thinking of capitalism. idpol is just one of the forms of politics that obstruct the fight against capitalism, but it's not the one thing we should be fighting against. That's fucking stupid, our goal isn't to eliminate idpol it's to eliminate capitalism, idpol just gets in the way of that but eliminating it will not be what makes the world a better place.

I would rate my changes of getting into the city council as very high, specially since I also do have expirience in working with the said council form 2014-2015 + working in the cultural committee for 3 odd months in 2016.

We will see who is laughing then.

Me still

what country is that?

Underrated post.

What specifically do you do at your job? And what country?

Thanks comrade

I have been responsible for sales in art galleries that my uncle runs(mostly the ones in Kouvola and Lappeenranta) for past 3 years. Without his letter of recommendation I could have never secured a job form the city(or worked on the cultural committee) and their only art gallery.

Finland.

As for your first proposal to the council:

MANDATORY ESCORT KISSUS

M A N D A T O R Y

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But my specific role and work that I actually do tends to change(at least when I work for him) form setting the gallery on site or securing space for the gallery itself. Our latest project has been with orthodox church in Finland where we get use their spaces in monastery of New Valamo and church of Lappeenranta where we donate 50% of our sales to the churches forgein aid.

Ah, ok. No offense, but all you do is art dealing? Is this like an avenue for something more serious politically?

This

Not really, we don`t sell nearly any modern art(or political) since its value tends to change with the times too much. Our sales are mostly based on already dead artists who are well recognized and who`s art is a good format of investment for the bourgeois.
It has very little to do with my politics and I do it mostly for the cut that I get form my sales in addition to my salary.

I would like to privatize the art museum that city has and increase the amount of secondary education by re-opening 2 highschools

Do you plan on going into serious politics someday?

And also side question: What would you say the current political landscape is like in Finland? Rising fascism? Are leftists doing well?

I applied already for municipalital/city council elections for 2017 and party accepted my application.

Nazies are rising their head a bit, but anarchists have been reanimated form their seeming political death in 2008 when their major political paper the rebel worker(kapinatyöläinen) came to its early grave due to its early grave. As for parliamentary politics it seems that center party that is currently the largest one has permanently moved to the right and left has been dying a slow, painful death. True finns have been losing their popularity and since their failure to take over unions 2012 they have been going even further into the economic right, but their popularity has dropped form 23% to miserable 16%

Also union membership is in strong decline but it has been stabilized into 72% of all workers being unionized. Most leftist parties are still hurting form the last government where every other party with exception of the true finns were in. Later as government started to collapse greens left first, left alliance soon followed.

Don't mock us no-game fags pls :(

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