Future of mainstream vidya in 2017

2017 marks the 10 year anniversary since the decline of vidya. Will this cycle of marketing being more important than the actual product end? 2016 saw a lot of backlash against this with shitty games like NMS, SFV, Deus Ex: MD, nuDogs2 etc.

Vidya will forever remain on a state of shit limbo where games just get worse but people are never going to complain. Like movies.

No. I think we did good this year. All the sjw shit games got low sales

I can't watch this video without huge sense of irony.

AAA is dying, but not because people are suddenly going to start ignoring marketing or buying into hype. That's always going to be around and meaningful.

What is happening is that more people are realizing that it isn't worth buying most of these games on day 1 and are choosing to wait for a sale or just placing things they already bought more. The problem is, many of these AAA titles from big Western publishers are dependent on big day 1 sales and then getting ~20% of those people to buy the season pass later on. That clearly isn't happening anymore for most of these titles, so that formerly successful model is going away, at least on the scale that it has been at the past few years.

Depends if you consider Battlefield 1, Uncharted 4, or Overwatch SJW games, because those were three of the few successful big titles in 2016.

To combat this, you can bet your ass AAA pubs will force devs into doing more microtransaction bullshit.

This. Also the kikes are overloading their shekel making machines so hard that even casuals are starting to notice and instinctively disgusted by it. Take Tranny or Deus Ex: MD for example. Full retail price then bunchload of DLCs is not going to cut it any more with this shit economy, and eventually people will scrimp and save. We might be returning to the 90s soon within a decade or half, era where small-medium devs will pop up like mushroom after the rain and maybe we will get good games by then.

I just want DMC5 to be announced so it can disappoint me and then i'll finally lose my last reason for living.

The industry has grown to the point it has effectively split in two. One side is AAA trash fueled by lies and marketing while the other is smaller studios that actually like vidya.

The AAA side is dead and never going to return to the days of old when AAA devs also cared about vidya.
The smaller studios are growing as more gamers realize AAA is gone, this is leading to more great games of higher quality and budget.

Let me try to list good games that came out in 2016:

Let it Die
Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun
The Dwarves
Tyranny
Dark Souls III
Divinity: Original Sin 2
I am Setsuna
Stranger of Sword City
Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2
Sid Meier's Civilization VI
Master of Orion: Conquer the Stars
The Banner Saga 2
XCOM 2
Battlefleet Gothic: Armada

This year wasn't that bad.

AAA isn't dying, the market is stabilizing.

Fixed.

Seriously nigger?

An below average finish to the series if you ask me.
More competent than Civ5 vanilla but you're better off playing Endless Legend. Research bonuses were a mistake though.
Shit and you should be ashamed for liking it.
This I can agree with if the balance is kind of ass.

Are you trying to derail a thread by making a list that's populated by a majority of games that are very poorly received on Holla Forums?

Because

Still in early access.

you only listed one game

good god pc gaming is a joke

Since you are doing the Holla Forums is one person meme let me add that Holla Forums has shit taste and doesn' like anything

XCOM 2 was pretty good aside its hit/miss chances. Its literally the only serious problem of the game, and its easily fixable by mods.

You are the cancer killing games. Die nigger.

Only people who never mod their games complain that mods can fix vidya.

What's more likely is that AAA games made by western developers just won't be made unless they will be guaranteed big hits with the ability to make endless bank with premium currency micro transactions. Everything else simply won't be greenlit.

Effectively, this will amount to a massive culling of AAA game quantities, and what makes it through will have a significant element of the game designed to accommodate endless micro transactions.

Deus Ex:MD is the perfect example of a game that tried to adapt mid development to this nw reality by adding on that Breach mode and adding a bunch of paid cheats, but the problem was that since most people weren't interested in that, it didn't generate money, and the single player wasn't substantial or interesting enough to justify buying it day one for enough people, so it bombed. They likely won't make another one, and if they do, I guarantee that the structure of the game won't resemble the other games in the series.

Shit's fucked brehs, games will never go back to being a niche hobby, as the internet becomes more and more commercialised and accessible this will only worsen. The war against SJWs seems to be going in our favour so that cancer might clear off eventually, but the cancer in a suit and tie will shit up AAA videogames forever more.

People who turn themselves into makeshift employees to "mod" games in order to make them playable are the niggers of vidya, of which you are one, and are sending a message that it's ok to release broken product.

I come from a time when mods were meant to make good games better, no shit games playable. Now go back to playing Skyrim and Fallout you fucking stupid nigger.

Still hoping that THQNordic bring back AA studios. They've done some good work so far, in terms of updates, remasters and releasing things at good prices.

Want me to show you my mod list? The game's strategy layer is fucking shit outside of the map traveling from region to region and events.
I can continue listing if you really want me too.

Your kind killed indie/small budget gaming, you're even worse.

>>>/ovens/
>>>Holla Forums
>>>/cuckchan/

You seem to have a hard time understanding that indie games are simply games released without a 3rd party publisher.
I know the SanFran faggots are determined to make everyone think that only "progressive games" are indie but that isn't the case.

For example ARMA 3, Squad, Eve Online, Amnesia, Mighty No. 9, Hotline Miami, Assetto Corsa, Mount&Blade and many, many more are all indie games.
inb4 you don't like those I have listed therefor you couldn't ever possibly enjoy any indie game

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Its a parody user

Yeah, that's right.

This tbh. We need a Marxist revolution. Holla Forums won't save you!

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THIS IS NOW A MARXIST THREAD ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE THAT IS NOT WITH THE PARTY IS Holla Forums AND TO BE IGNORED

Nigger you did not seriously imply that as being a good game. If so, kill yourself. Indie gaming is garbage right now like AAA gaming. Gaming as a whole is garbage.


Yeah, you are. And you can leave.
>>>Holla Forums

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Much of this anguish around AAA doesn't extend to Eastern Europe and Japanese development due to how much cheaper labor costs are.

The future of interesting and engaging game development will come from those areas, as well as smaller AA studios and large-scale indie studios in the West.

Western AAA development is simply too expensive to justify all but the biggest projects.

Never played it, I generally don't like Jap games it's just one I remember half of Holla Forums liking when it released but no one has talked about it since.

Oh I see, you have brain problems.

top lel.

I thought you commies were all against oppression and shit. Not very tolerant of you. But it's not surprising that cucks have no consistent beliefs or principles.


Nigger, why are you bullshitting? Nobody liked that piece of shit.

That's rice, the newfag says others have brain problems.

It was shit, and a complete failure commercially and critically.
Holla Forums got hyped for months and then it was torn away from them in a day.

It was pretty funny to watch, actually.

Anyways, thread is shit, it turned into Holla Forums vs Holla Forums.
What to know why it was derailed? Because one user posted a joke image, then some newfag from Holla Forums who just came in on the last boat from Reddit hasn't seen that image before, and took the bait way too hard trying to fit in.

Also, TS, I didn't know it was possible for you to post without namefagging. Could of at least tried for a VPN, though. >>11559489


hownuru?
Holla Forums was actually pretty hyped for it, but the cracks started to show a few months before release. A fair few anons were still stupidly hyped to the end.

Nigger shut your fucking yap. Everyone here was hyped for it failing. You must think we were anticipating DmC too you newfag.

Most of us have that hardiness already to steamroll over cucks like you.

Oh, sorry.

I must of mistaken those threads that kept hitting bumplock in a under 12 hours being 100% ironic shitposting.
My bad, thanks for Correcting The Record.

Literal Reminder that all of modern video games problems result from capitalism.

The list goes on.

this is mostly a PC gaming problem. PC gaming is cancer so, anyone with a brain avoids it like the plague.

OP, delete your thread, it's beyond saving.

This tbh

Thank you for correcting the record Inafune


Fuck off commie cuck

Seeing this thread is already a train wreak I'll take the bait.

PC gaymen covers everything from Todds lies and SJW trash to German bus simulators and RPGs with actual RPG mechanics.
It's the only platform where a game can go from development to release without ever needing to be approved by a suit concerned with profit margins.

A lot of that shit ramped up on cucksoles. You can thank 360 owners for buying into shit like Horse Armor. No PC, back then at least, could fall for that

I'm sorry, you didn't seem to catch what I was saying:
I saw MULTIPLE threads hit over 300 replies in a relatively short time frame in which people were hyped and praising the game and it's devs.
I was being ironic in the post you replied to, and implying that it is extremely unlikely that dozens on anons managed to make all those posts sarcastically.

Post proof that people here were hyped for it you liar. Because I'll tell you right now that once they brought that cunt Dina on board and they locked discussion of the game on kickstarter, NO ONE was hyped for that shit game, and that was pre-exodus. By 2014 mn9 was a laughing stock

Who saves screen caps of the daily grind that is anons making a shitload of popular threads before a release?
You clearly weren't here at the time if you don't remember the volume of hype that was going on.

why? marketing is what gets the product sold, not the technical side of it. all the pre jobs-death apple products were pretty well made and the marketing for it was just a bonus. jobs knew how to make a good product and he knew how to exploit marketing to his advantage

Please God let it happen.

It's funny because a third of those aren't even PS4 exclusives.

Also what the fuck happened while I was gone? waited for posts so I could read a bunch of them later

Wew lad. That's some top quality bait there.
Next time, try lowercase when typing out a board name, else it's too easy to spot.


I know that feel.
Every time I post the thread either derails from people taking eaasy bait or no one responds at all.

But didn't you read in your e-mail newsletter from Kotaku?
Gamers are dead!

WEW

This isn't cuckchan

yes, and turn it into something even worse. we would be inundated with shitty, shallow games that would only serve masses of plebs at an incredibly simple level just like what we see with modern FPS games or the leagues of open world early access survival games.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

there would be no reason for innovation if all you're doing is shitty out an abundance of products made simply to barely satisfy ones need for pleasure and fun. not to mention that video games probably wouldn't even exist in the very same manner as they do under a capitalist model because of the fears garnered from perhaps replicating the same manner of the culture industry that is practiced under capitalism, which seeks to give people only world distracting comforts or some other reasons.

Coomunism fails in the aspect that all work is rewarded equally.

Why would I bother going to school and getting a doctorate to practice medicine if I can get the same/similar pay, rights and chances as someone that works at a checkout?

I don't remember the hype because there was none, it was only hyped for failure, newfag. Why are you lying too?

you have very strong misconceptions about what the practice of communism actually involves. if i cared more to read more stuff on communism, i would have bothered typing up why you are wrong and what you are wrong about. but, i'm not. all i can tell you is that you are wrong about communism (in regard to absolute equal pay)

what the fuck am I reading
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And do you mean fake hype aka viral marketing? Your new is showing. Fuck off back to cuckchan and then go kill yourself.

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m8 you wouldn't even be given a choice, if you were smart enough to be a doctor that's what they'd force on you whether you like it or not, or you're thrown in a gulag

lol b8

I know that it's not purely about equal pay, I read all the posts Holla Forums post correcting the record, have no fear.

Just one of many reasons why it never works. The dissolution of rewards for more difficult activities and of removing a companies influence over the population and giving it all the the government is wrong.

Also, I'm not condoning companies having power over the citizens of a country, what should happen is governments and corps should fight each other and leave the citizens alone, but multiple companies with control over different aspects is better than a singular entity with absolute control.


He wasn't wrong in his statement, though. I did butcher the aspects of communism into a strawman.

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I'm pretty sure he's baiting, after all he appears to be an Apple fag:

Irrelevant really, quit the mainstream scene a few years ago.

Still it is a little sad to see it all go to hell. There was for instance a time when I had respect for Bethesda and Rockstar.

Probably bait, but I enjoy responding to it, only if the poster posts more.
Anyways, Apple was good before the iPhone, and their desktops used to be amazing back in the days of OS 9. OS X was fine up until Yosemite.

user, you deserve a gold star.
Thread is gone, though. We should have another one tomorrow.

Holla Forums is only marginally less deluded than the mainstream leftists who think communism is some kind of equalist multicultural paradise where they are free to be homosexual and useless and get whatever they want without doing anything when in reality communism only functions as an intense nationalist closed border state where no one leaves or enters and every single one of these tumblrinas would be rounded up and shot

Communism seems to be in an upswing in the US since Americans realise capitalism means they have to compete with the rest of the world on equal terms.

Like god emperor Trump said: companies have a fudiciary duty to protect their shareholders, not provide jobs for Americans.

Would you guys be willing to pay more for a better game? Maybe the problem with games is that it's not profitable enough at $60. I would have gladly paid $100 for FFXV if it came out complete.
FFXV took 10 years of development for me to see recycled animations and recycled lines throughout the whole fucking game. What a disappointment.

13 year at the most optimistic. 18 for the more pessimistic.

Fuck no. Those games being "not profitable enough" is their own damn fault. What is making them so expensive is NOT in any sense of the term making them better.

That's because Soros is funding and paying people to "protest". See, it give you the illusion that Commies are rising up big time while only the fools think they truly are. When one of them argues you will come to understand that they know nothing and want the current system gone, which we all can agree is shit.
If you then say Trump wants exactly the same thing they'll start to think for a bit.

The cost of producing a game with our current technology got substantially cheaper not more expensive and yet they got more expensive while the quality is degrading

At $100 bucks you'd still get the same piece of shit game

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Then you must understand how retarded the leftists truly are. None of them will survive under a Communist regime.

all of these anons assume the publishers and studios see themselves as being in the vidya business. They don't. As far as they're concerned, they're in the entertainment business. Concurrent with your 10-year decline of vidya has been a massive shift in "entertainment" spending and ad impressions among young people away from movies and television. The vidya industry thinks they're going to capture that money as well as broaden their reach beyond young males, hence the colossal bullshit we've been suffering through for 10 years. They're basically burning other people's money with the promise of "we hollywood now". And it's not just the profit potential… it's the political and social power as well.

The shit wont work because young people pirate a lot of shit and watch Netflix. Video game "storytelling" is a retarded meme and pretty much a dead-end unless devs unfuck themselves and actually ask themselves "how can storytelling in a game actually work?", but they can't do that because the result would likely be something radically different than film and these fucks have already committed to the "cinematic" lie. It's just going to have to play itself out.

Ideally, we'ld be a situation like the music industry was in prior to the 90's, where it was run by old dudes who had no idea of what they were publishing or why kids liked it.. they just threw a bunch of shit against the wall and some of it stuck. Ideally, we'ld get a TON of new games of all kinds and some of it would catch on, make an obscene profit, and support all the rest. But, production costs are too expensive and due to the "cinematic storytelling" meme plus the addiction to hyped day 1 launches, they're not going to get cheaper anytime soon.

The whole thing is just going to have to contract/collapse until "disrupters" show up to usher in a new paradigm.

Yeah, it's enraging, also being told my experience was just "fascism" and "not real communism" by people who have families with a 6 figure income studying a degree ironically only allowed due to capitalism, so they think the prole in marxism means identity like homosexual, colored people when really they are the bourgeois who would be the first to go

I wish we could just plane drop them off in Venezuela so they stop ruining our countries

Here are some games via a rough google search.

The answer to that question will shape things.

Hardware wise you have the Nintendo Switch.
Microsoft is making Project Scorpio.
Sony is no doubt making something.
Same question applies.

The general feeling is that Nintendo and Microsoft are backing out of the console industry.
To some the Switch is a handheld because sales show the 3DS is the most popular dedicated gaming handheld while the WiiU is the flaming dumpster of generation 8.
Microsofts has spoken of essentially doing away with console exclusives that are in many ways the key reason for a console to exist.
Other words from them have insinuated that Scorpio will simply be a revision in the same vain as the Xbox One S but more substantial in terms of capabilities.

Looking at this line up I'm projecting Red Dead 2 being the highest seller.
Not too much appears to be the normal triple-A franchise fanfare.
But it isn't even the new year yet and I feel more franchises could be lying in wait to perpetuate this age of mediocrity.

I see the competitive games that will fizzle quickly.
The artsy indie titles that will be lorded by the journos while games with actual merit will get much less respect because of a violent nature.
The Japanese games that will not appeal to a broad western audience and be censored so much they wouldn't appeal to weebs even.
The many niece titles coming down the pipeline with a faithful yet very small number of consumers.

But they could be out there.
The games with clout.
The household brand names attached to them.
Waiting to pounce on the annual sheep.
Ready to drag the industry back into the malaise they all love so dearly.

That's not a bad list. At least 17 great games incoming. Also Cyberpunk 2077 not listed.

We need a bigger push towards "donationware" and "pay what you want" systems as an alternative to Steam, PSN and XBL. itch.io already does a pretty good job at that, even though it's owned by some SanFran fags and also took down that anti-BLM game

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I feel I must before someone calls you a faggot without explaination.

RE7 is so-so. Literally up in the air for quality.
Ghost Recon will be shit. An user gave us beta screenshots and said it was terrible, and it looked it too.
DoW 3 is looking pretty bad right now. Every time they release stuff people get more and more disappointed.
Red Dead 2 will be shit, no way around that.

Don't see The Sinking City on there, but I think that's coming for a 2017 release.
Maybe this year will be the one Romero releases the Blackroom demo.

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That is one wonky list. 50% of the games you have listed have been shat on here, are still in Early Access and therefor unfinished or are considered flavor of the month. Have you been even here last December?

Would you have been one of those retards who have concluded that you can kill yourself, because there is no God?


No, all of Holla Forums was laughing their asses off when they saw how shit Mighty Number 9 actually was. It was one of the most spectacular Blunders of this years and before that it was one of the prime examples why kickstarting shit is retarded.


Communism: The economic system of choice for people who still believe in the Millenianism heresy. According to Communism we must kill One Gorrilion more people in Gulags , turn everyone into a bigger poorfag than Holla Forums and nature into a deadly moon wasteland which air eats your face to summon muh Holy Ghost.

and now I can reply to thread on topic.

I kinda gave up on single player games. I have ff14 and I'm happy.

I agree with this one. At the moment the industry is in the hands of people who see and handle video games like old media. That would be the AAA scene on the one hand who want to have a second Hollywood and the SJW on the other. The grip on the industry of both, especially the SJW is getting weaker and weaker every day. How many 100% failures have we seen this year? How many typical hipster games have you seen this year on Steam? I can already tell you that it wasn't that many. I have checked in last year to sort out what my Steam page and the biggest names I have found besides Mafia 3 and Deus Ex:MD are sequels to German AA games. Those things are still not out. In other words, the contraction is already happening. I am looking forward to next year.

Meanwhile, people are actively working a paradigm shift by attempting to destroy Hollywood. Shit is going to become more diverse in scope while the ultra Expensive AAA product will die out, due to lack of resources. The trashy indie game as we knew it 2014 is already dead. Given all this, I am cautiously optimistic.

I don't know user, if you're so 'ironic' and 'sarcastic' then maybe everybody else is. :^)

Who cares about AAA? Find better shit, it's out there

Anyone else waiting for bannerlord?

Way to disqualifiy yourself from any further discussion, fuckboi.

This gels well with the fact that 99% of vidya writers are just failed Hollywood writers. Nobody actually wants to write stories for games.

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Reminder that you wouldn't get ANY games in a communist system

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No, they weren't. Apple never made a worthwhile machine after the Apple II.

Holla Forums is only marginally less deluded because they actually know how to use an imageboard. Other than that they legit believe in a globally-enforced equalist multicultural "Robots do everything" paradise that indeed encourages polygamist bisexual NEETs living under the guise of being philosophers and artists. All of them have the full intention of disregarding all traits of human beings in order to reduce them to numbers to allow for non-natives to enter and shit up first world nations, disregarding the concept of nations, laws, etc, and are more concerned with opposing conservatism wherever they see or meet it rather than producing any good for themselves or any country willing to ruin themselves with full on leftist economic policies.

You get Holla Forums when you take SJWs, and filter out the women and their orbiters, nothing but a group of deliberately self-emasculated bi-curious boys who weigh less than the AKs and other Soviet guns they dream of shooting you, me, and everyone else with.


This. The only people who do are people who like video games but haven't developed one yet, or has already succeeded in writing for video games, and thus has room to make money doing so. The only reason writers are put up so highly on dev teams is because the rest of the team allows it, or the writers can provide more than just story. Video games are considered the bottom of the barrel if you're making art, writing, music, sound, etc. for it.(except for voice acting, dubbed anime is voice acting's barrel bottom) Even programming for video games will make people think you're shit tier compared to all other career holders in software development, no matter what kind of assets it takes to make a video game or how time consuming it is.

A lot of people who are enamored enough with video games to actually write for them also tend to have a WYSISYG sort of mindset and understanding in making the game work, which is probably one reason why there's a bunch of walking simulators and western Visual Novels.


AAA games are definitely getting smaller, but AA games aren't exactly on the rise, and indie games overall still lack the quality control to make sure at least a fifth of them are good or worth their money.

Really commrade?

You forgot Nu-Blizzard's Legion because this is the first time I've seen people give Blizzard shit for this expansion. The playerbase is declining, and the second raid tier isn't even out yet. And Diablo 3 is a complete mess.

There used to be a time I'd be proud to like Capcom and Blizzard. Talk about falling from grace.

And you can thank capitalism for turning it into a phenomenon. Reminder that Alexy made jack shit from Tetris' success since under Soviet law he was entitled to fuck all earnings for it.

Indie games are clearly shrinking too. Do you still see those typical hipster games? The lack of activity on tigsource speaks volumes. All the cancer we have mocked 2 years ago was announced and made possible through that place. AA games are not on the rise either. That is also correct. The contraction of the entire gaming thing has only begun. It may take a while until the cancer has died off. Just sit back, grab the not that occasional gem that comes by next year and watch the havoc going on.


Reminder that Paschitnow got fuck all for Tetris and had to work for Microsoft anyway. It was Nitnendo and Tengen who spread Tetris. Without capitalist who where technically also into Millenialism, the Soviet Union would have collapsed. Now go fuck yourself and politsperg on Holla Forums.

This "girl" is the target audience of mainstream vidya in 2017

BONERLORD WHEN?

I thought people who failed at becoming movie writers end up as game writers. Because they are movie faggots they produce video game stories that feel like movies. So the developers create a movie game in the end.

Anyways, I really hope the cancer is beginning to die. normalfags will still buy their sports games and yearly ego shooters but at least let it flush away some of the rotten studios.

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It's still a better deal than what nintendo put out on the wiiu.

Because Americans need high wages to get away from niggers and spics. 90% of America's current problems are because of non-whites and Jews. If America was 100% white you would see more mixed income communities because people could shop more on price rather than race. It would probably hit wages too. People would need less money and wages would go down.

Or they will just make deals with the retailers and make it harder for other developers that aren't in the ((circle)) to distribute their games. Sort of like they have already done in the movie and book-industry.

Its shit, its dead and it will remain afloat for decades to come since normalfags ruin everything.
At least AA and good indies are coming back.

No

Given that the entire medical field was filled with morons and medical technology was far behind anything in the west(to the point of sending high-end commies west for opeartions)and reserved only for the high-end members of the party I'm calling you a full on moron.

This
Movies never went back to being good and hollywood jews don't allow new ideas to come forth because they are copying japan's model of stagnation. Their model keeps executives in the top positions for decades because nothing changes.

Since games (especially AAA) are supposed to be movies now they will continue to emulate the big screen and stay bland as well as forgettable with little to no creativity.