Revolution, Nothing Less

BA has done more to push for communist revolution in the US and Europe in the past couple of decades than anyone else. He has single-handedly created the latest peak in communist ideological evolution. If you can't accept that, that's fine. Just get the fuck out of our way and stop calling yourself a communist, you fucking liberal piece of shit.

Here we go again with the Bordiga-nerds. Did you know that Bordiga quit being a socialist?

Never heard of the guy, but this thread's not making me want to look into him.

do not shy away from revolutionary enlightenment. I recommend reading his new book, Birds Cannot Give Birth to Crocodiles, but Humanity Can Soar Beyond the Horizon

shiggy

He was either jailed or focusing on a construction job after being marginalized by the Communist Party during Mussolini's regime, but eventually returned to interfere in leftcom politics late into the war. It wasn't exactly quitting.

Hoxhaism, while a decent ideologic line and an ally to the RCP, is outdated and no longer relevant to the 21st century

It's actually managed to get more frequent and more absurd than the Trots calling everyone THEY don't like Fascists. Congratulations.

I'm sorry that my politics aren't festered with liberal notions about how the world works. How does it feel to be part of one of the biggest ideologic failures of history? How does it feel to know that you'll never accomplish revolution?

He dropped out of politics after being expelled from the party. So he focused on being an architect. Later on he got back into politics and wrote about socialism for the rest of his life.

I can literally hear the personality cult dicksucking from beyond my computer screen. It's like the notion of having a political movement that doesn't center itself around a single "infallible" person is entirely foreign to you.

And what your telling us is that you aren't a part of the biggest ideological failure in history?
Look tankie, the Soviet Union is dead, Stalin's corpse is rotting away, Lenin is dead.
And BA is a tankie cult leader who's treated less seriously than Alex Jones.

You are devoting your life to a failed tankie cult leader.
I mean, he's an even bigger failure than Stefan M.

I'm not even a tankie but that's Capitalism fam. Soviets died, Capitalism lived, and we're about to see the results of the latter's collapse and we will age to see the day when we wished the nukes launched and killed our parents before they had us. '

Shit will be uglier than ugly.

BA has dedicated his entire life to the people and dedicated every bit of knowledge he has over the past 40 years towards building a new communist synthesis that will save humanity from the iron grip of capitalism. Don't you think you owe it to him and his life's work to follow his lead towards a better future? Or maybe you're just like all of the other counter-revolutionaries and reactionary scum and deserve to be put up against the wall

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The Soviet Union brought about many successes and would have continued to drive humanity towards a better world were it not for Khrushchev and his capitalist, revisionist coup after Stalin's death. What have any of you done to further the revolution except jack off to anime?

Remind me again what anarchism has done except fail miserably at the hands of fascists in Catalonia?

As opposed to the revolution Stalin and his fabricated ML ideology coopted. As opposed to 20th century states that entirely failed to even achieve socialism, much less make any progress towards Communism. As opposed to an ideology that prides itself on its rigid nature and the active undermining of other Communist movements in order to propagate its own ideology and its derivatives alone? As opposed to the subsequent states that have left a black mark on the international workers movement that we still see no progress in remedying?

The 20th century is over. It had its successes and many failures, but now we must learn and move on. Dwelling within it does nothing to adapt the movement to prepare itself for revolution here and now, nor does it do us any favors in bringing the working class at large to our aid.

We don't "owe" him shit. We take what's valuable of his work and use it to our ends for the sake of our common goal.
Glad to know you the extent by which you'll throw yourself at the feet of anyone who even remotely reflects your values. That's some top-tier slave mentality you've got going there.

I never implied I didn't like him. Quite the contrary, I've liked some of what I've read of him.

Context changes with time. People used to mock Marxism Leninism for "Well what the hell has Lenin done?"

I think it really depends on the times. Right now, I think we don't need a state. I think it's actually impossible to create a state that won't be subjugated like has always happened by the intel agencies and the military, all acting in coordination.

I think community in something new is the answer, something without a state. There is enough resource, that anonymous theft of tranactions by multinational corporations between third world nations, oil and defense money, and giving it out before people can do much, is a legitimate strategy. Especially the more desperate times get.

People will see more result in it, fighting it only exposes the state.

Imagine for a moment, a homeless man suddenly has money and freedom, maybe even $3,000. And the state wipes out all that money.

You will soon see the radicalization of people towards the alternative to Capitalism.

There wouldn't be anything Capital could do besides expose itself for the real theft. They can propagandize, but there would always be a market for our cyber theft, and then, our ideology. More and more.

Yes, I agree that we must "learn and move on." That's why I stopped being a child and adhering to anarchism, joined the RCP, and began working towards a REAL revolution that will actually mean something and actually concretely improve people's lives. I suggest you do the same, but it seems you're too comfortable sitting at home and rubbing your prostate while watching riot porn, you childish, infantile fuck. Enjoy the comfort of your petite-bourgeois "revolution" while you can. When the real revolution comes, you'll be up against the wall with the other counter-revolutionaries

if you actually read any of BA's works, you would realize that there is very little, if anything, not useful from him

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I agree that we should work towards a world without states, however it is naive to assume that we can accomplish and maintain a revolution without an intermin socialist state. Unfortunately, not every country will be able to come under the fold of revolution all at once and, therefore, we must be able to combat foreign occupiers, something that anarchism has proven to be quite awful at doing. I recommend that you read BA's "The New Communism" and come back to me

How's that revolutionary New Synthesis coming along Bob?

great, thanks for asking

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Provide Bob's books and I will read them.

mautists never learn

Not again

en.internationalism.org/pamphlets/nationorclass

Kek what the fuck? That book title sounds like it could be one of Viper's albums

Social democracy did more for workers than marxist leninism or maoism ever did

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lmao this book's tittle.
its looks like he is trying to emulate what happens when you badly translate a chinese proverb into english. Fucking maoists

*syndicalism

Leave bob alon!