Pondering Revolution

As a thought experiment, let us debate how many Americans seriously want to overthrow the government. And by this, I mean approximately how many Americans seriously would support a violent overthrow of the current ruling system. I am not talking about internet talkers in youtube comments or hemming and hawing leftist bobos who wring their hands and parrot MSM talking points but have no coherent ideology other than hating whoever the MSM tells them to hate. That's not overthrowing the System. That's being the System's tool.
While MSM polls are an easy source when talking about this, we should take everything with a grain of salt because they obviously have an (((agenda))) and are thus suspect.
This is a worthwhile thought experiment because ultimately we will need to overthrow the System and it is almost certainly not going to be non-violent. Anons have different experiences and interact with different segments of society. Alone we have a very inaccurate picture of the political landscape. But together we will be able to form a better understanding.
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My personal take is from personal experience with a wide subset of regular Americans, with a strong slant towards the White working class.
The vast, vast, vast majority are concerned with trivial things and only display a passing frustration with the government. In my experience, most are happy to yammer for hours about which nigger kicked a ball around but bringing up politics in any form will lose them in an instant. Most men have no strong opinions about any political subject and almost no women at all.
However, among political conservatives I would judge that around 1% would seriously support overthrowing the government. It's difficult to gauge how many "conservatives" there are but based on political party membership, I'd say that around 1% of registered "Republicans" and maybe a higher percentage of Independents would support a violent overthrow of the government.
This factors to around 1 million White Americans who would support a revolution. Approximately.

With leftists it is a bit more tricky.
Ironically Democrats are far more conservative than Republicans in terms of radical politics so barely any would actually support a violent overthrow of the government. At least that is as far as White Democrats are concerned. Since there is basically no organized communist element of America, they're irrelevant in politics. Antifags would of course support "desphroying capitalphlistalistic patriarchy." But after a few days of rioting, these morons would mostly change their mind and want to return to living in their parents basements. They're bourgeoisie revolutionaries, not real revolutionaries.
Similarly, among the blacks, alienation from the government is actually higher than among White conservatives. Which is ironic for obvious reasons. However not only is willingness to see the System toppled violently absent from all but the most dedicated black nationalists, but a black response to such an event would only be more rioting for gibs. Of course if the military began shooting them, I suspect they'd opt to remain content with what they have…
Mestizos are another issue and I have far too little experience with them to make a sound judgement.

Among the elites, that is another issue entirely. Obviously most are amoral and would "support" whatever benefited them. Bear in mind that the elites do not serve the jews because they love jews. No one loves jews. They are the most unlovable race on the planet. They serve them because they fear them. But if they felt that their survival meant turning on the jews, most would do so in an instant.

Anyway, this is my analysis. About 1 to 2 million Americans would seriously support a violent revolution. The elites are amoral opportunists.
Please share your own thoughts and experiences so we can all form a clearer picture of the political landscape.

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I think one thing that's important to understand about this hypothetical situation - and I'm reiterating it to stress it.

It wouldn't be like the last Civil War with two, clearly delineated factions drawn up by political convenience and simple geography.

It'd most likely be the government losing control across the nation, to political and fringe ideological groups who all have vastly different motives and ideals - but they'd in an opportunistic fashion, seize on any resounding chaos to achieve their own machinations.

One thing I think is interesting to ponder is when you think about this "future war", or maybe it's just "fantasy" but if it were to happen there would be a unique feature to it that no other war in history has had. (Well at least to the capacity we see today.)

Our societies, population and bureaucracy are bigger than anywhere in the world has ever been. It would be the largest population to ever undergo such an event - and it would be the wealthiest nation to ever undergo such an event, and the tyranny in question would be one of the largest governments to ever exist. Well surpassing any names you might pull out of the history books. Essentially - the size of this war, and the size of it's vacuum effect would be more substantial than anything that had ever happened before - and so the blood letting would similarly be of a staggering propensity.

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I think the number is most likely just shy of 4 million. But you also need to calculate how many people would uphold the current regime, if they had to do so violently - against organized, or at least dauntless resistance and a modern urban guerilla war - where the majority of households contain the supplies necessary to create basic chemical weapons.

I think the vast majority of people sit on the fence - and are content, so long as their basic needs are met and they don't have to face the reality of the world in the eye. That's why the majority of people have a political opinion - but very few have a geopolitical one.

They genuinely don't understand that there is a bigger picture - which, I am glad for. It's an ugly task and an even uglier thought - no matter what ideal you believe in.

There are roughly 3.8 million US; police, army, air and navy personnel (pretty sure that contains the national guard but can't confirm) - and just like the general civilian populace, not all of them would be willing to fight a war against civilians.

But that's not something I know enough about to predict.

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I would hesitantly agree on your analysis. Seems like we're in the beginning stages of a full on systems collapse.

Most important is to highlight the fragility of the system itself. There's precious little evidence that the state as it is right now actually functions as a cohesive whole. Our people need to realize:

1.) The people who actually make things happen hate them and they're different than the people who we're told are in charge.

2.) The system is actually weak, it's operating on faith and we need to end the false god of invincible government.

3.) They (the system) doesn't just disagree with you, they want you gone.

Hi Holla Forums.

We're not fighting Judge Dredd - we're fighting the Wizard of Oz. Hopefully that analogy lands.

I'd be willing to lay down my life for the good of my people. But it really depends on who is leading the revolution. It isn't necessarily impossible for a National Socialist government to take power through political means; Hitler did it. I don't think a revolution lead by degenerates like the Traditionalist Workers' Party is good; I would probably actually be a loyalist in that case. The problem is that if we do overthrow the government then there would need to be a follow-up. I just don't see a lot of people worthy of being called leaders. So if the entire thing collapses; ZOG can just come in, and we won't even be able to hide behind the constitution anymore. It would be an apocalyptic disaster should the revolution fail.

The problem with right-wing revolutions is that right-wing people usually actually have something to lose. They aren't losers like leftists. This naturally means that they won't do risky things. Antifa can risk life-ruining felony charges because they're all heroin addicted gender-studies majors. (never mind the judicial bias they receive) The counter-left, the right, and the third position don't have this luxury. I think the only pragmatic thing to do at this stage is to try and engage in populist politics. That would actually give us a strong chance at getting real power. As opposed to violence, which, if anything, would let ZOG crack down on us and make things far worse. Terrorism at this stage would be the equivalent of shooting up a school to protest gun control. Trying to appeal to the masses, while maintaining the implication of the 14 words seems like the best strategy we have at the moment. People of all races are pretty racist, but whites just don't seem to have a sense of racial identity. Instead of trying to force it on them, like some Marxist who gets surprised when the working class fucking hates his guts; I would rather do thing that make our people happy, while still saving the race. There might not be much praise, or many swastikas flying in our honor, but it's worth it. It's not sexy, but I think it makes more sense. Although if things get worse then I would like to see an American IRA type group emerge.

Don't take this as an excuse to be a cuckservative though. If I see any of you turn into one of those faggot libertarian zionist types then I will gas you myself.

Until the left pushes things to far and removes the social contract: then everyone lashes out at once against them.

The man who had everything then has nothing left to lose is the most dangerous sort of folk.

I personally think what is more likely is we see a consistent politicization of the youth leading to an increase in extremists of all ideologies. And what all ideologies mutually benefit from is the collapse of the current system - even the Commie frothing at the bit wants his chance at taking over the State.

There's been a lot of studies lately that suggest there are genetic properties to the political views people settle on later in life. And if the Youth are constantly being propagandized to at UNHEARD of levels - and mark my words, this is unheard of. The Churches did a very good job of it too but they never came close to this willing enslavement to a parasitical ideology.

So I think we can also assume; reasonably at least, that the coming generations are going to be magnitudes more political than their predecessors. And that as the state bursts at the seams from it's own incompetency and largess - the emerging ideologies that grow to replace Classical Liberalism and Conservatism; will naturally be extremist ideologies, because the confusing world of the future - the insecure political landscape, and growing awareness among the Plebeians that the State is merely an illusion - a Hollywood character and story book myth.

That will be when it kicks off - and I think it will most likely be the far Left that kicks it off. Not the Right. Whatever shows up on behalf of the Right will most likely be a reaction to the Far Left's well financed attempt at power.

Things today are not always things tomorrow.

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