Elona Thread - EloChat still dead. RIP

Elona is a freeware roguelike made by a Japanese developer named Noa. It's set in a fantasy world with bits of sci fi thrown in and the occasional weird and/or quirky thing, such as getting a little girl as a pet, marrying her and riding her as a mount or setting a nuke to blow up in a busy city and rake in the negative karma you get, then getting horribly murdered by guards when you're just trying to pay your taxes. Do your taxes.

The development of Elona stopped in 2010, but a modder by the name of Ano picked it up and made Elona+, which is the recommended way to play the game. E+ adds two new continents to the base game in addition to new items, mechanics, balances, bug fixes and so on. You get the idea.

Ano's Google Translate-tier English translation is pretty terrible at times, and the game is outright untranslated at some points, but it's still very much playable as is. However, a user named AnnaBannana on the Elona Wikia made a mod for E+ called Elona Custom. It adds proper translations to a lot of things and comes with optional settings you can turn on or off in settings. It also restores the cutscenes that were cut from the English translation of the game.
Note: You need to install Elona Custom on top of E+. Just downloading Custom won't work.

Snail tourist, obviously. Take a quick read through the Elona Wikia if you're unsure about something. It's more fun running in with a trial and error mentality though. Your first character shouldn't be the one you'll settle in with. Try things, go wild.

Seriously. Read the Wikia. There are a lot of things in this game that are confusing or not really explained. It'll help you out.

Latest E+ version: dropbox.com/sh/rjtmd247d6c6uma/ZCkmq9DI6J
Latest Elona Custom version: mega:///#!ccxSyKyY!vEKQsoKWsk6i6j2oHiksJlo_1hIgc-tWIge-l2dGcP8
Elona Wikia: elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elona_Wiki
Additional mods (sprites, music etc.): pastebin.com/vZ8Hfw6C

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I've been running Custom 1.62.2 with E+ 1.63 for a while now with no problems. You don't get the things 1.63 added, sure, but it's like playing E+ 1.62. Anna said she'd release a new version sometime early December.

I didn't think it added much when the death messages were still in, but now I miss them more than anything.

There's been talk of setting up a new server for the chat and death message system, but nothing has come out of it so far. It'd be great to have it back, but don't get your hopes up too high.

I figured as much.
I miss moongates, too, but I hear you can still visit some of the moongate rooms.

Yeah, I still see moongates pop up here and there. Haven't tried going through any so I can't say if they work.

They're like relics. Seeing one always brings back memories of people dying to the stupidest thing and memories of accidentally bumping into the box that lets you vote for the best character name, only to see Drunken Oni Ibuki Suika permanently at the top. Now nothing happens when you bump into it.

God, I have some good and bad memories of jumping into random moongate rooms. Most of the time I got fucked, but occasionally, I'd get a room that was just really nicely decorated or if I was even luckier, a room with enemies that gave out wishes every time you killed them. Good times.
As for the voting box, I'll say I miss bumping into it and seeing Devil King Eddie Murphy near the top.

It hurts, you will never see so and so get killed over and over by a rogue bandit and slowly lose his shit worse and worse.

What now? Do I start fresh, or use a gene with about half of my OP gear?

The grind to get back to where I was seems pretty painful.

Also are Ex Battles broken now?

You want death to be meaningful, so start from scratch.

I'd let kumi harvest my seed, if you know what I mean
this is a request for kumiromi porn, as I cant find any quality stuff on gelbooru or pixiv

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Post sleep-sharing pals

I don't think there's much out there for you, user.

shieeeeeeeeeet

I haven't heard about this in literally years when I first played the Elona Shooter flash game.

Remote blow rocks, I off hand a whip just to use it.

My last elona file is 1.55, think I can move my shit over?

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Oh wait, maybe I do that.
Its been a while.

What's silly is you can do that and then use remote blow unarmed attacks.

And now I have to do an entire small castle's worth of redecorating just because I didn't want to get my stats bumped down again.

Holy shit.

You got the seven leagues boots of course?

It will convert your saves when you load them, so you should be fine.

I read the japanese wiki I found out that the metal race has the cResEle bitflag.

Tested it in game, appears to be true.

Never knew that because the english wiki never mentioned it.

Help, I just started a new character and I'm stuck fighting a gold bell. I don't have enough damage to kill it. So far I've gained 6 levels in bow against it, and it has gained 3 levels in light armor, 1 dex, and an actual level. How do I escape from this training hell?


I never really understood what's so great about seven league boots as a wish. Travel time isn't really that exciting, and you'll find some eventually, or can just use the Dal-i-thon.

Poison/bleed it
such as repeating crossbows, shuriken or poisons

Just keep fighting and keep your potentials high

No poison/bleed items on me. All I have is a dagger, long bow, shield, staff, club, handaxe, and battle axe.


Not like my level 4 character has anything to raise her potential with.

Maybe I use my rod of summon monster and hope one of them drops something I can use?

ignore the bell then

you can use platinum coins to raise your skill potentials and stat(depending on your guild)

if you are playing elona plus/custom, pets with cooking can make you breakfast if you wake up in the morning.

the breakfast increases stat potential

You seem to misunderstand. I am stuck in the arena with no way to get out. I can't sleep share to raise potential in the arena (and since I'm low level my little girl doesn't have cooking yet), I can't go to the trainer while in an arena, and I can't leave (ignoring the bell).

I am stuck fighting it for eternity or until I starve to death?

hmm my rod of monsters summoned a punk who is attacking the bell. Maybe he'll level marksman enough to deal more than 1 damage to it.

You could keep fighting until you get a feat and take the bleed or poison one. Let this be a lesson to you: take the bleed or poison feat at chargen

Fight until you die. At level 4 the consequences for death are negligible.

you wait till you starve to death/ provoke the summoned monsters

the arean death penalty is only loss of fame and the win streak

Nevermind. The summoned punk got it down to about half health and I finished it off with a lucky shield bash.

I'm considering saving this and putting it on display in my house as a memento of the toughest fight I've had in this game yet.

btw what race did you pick, if you picked fairy, golem, mutant or snail training might be a bit different

is there porn in this game

i see big titty flaming harpy in the first OP pic

roran

I know how training works.

That is a custom sprite, so there is as much or as little porn as you like

What version are you playing on? I thought they got rid of the shield bash.

Can I punch things to death in this game?

Yes.

BUT, it starts off the weakest combat style eventually(hundreds of hours, maybe even 1000+) getting very strong.

Comparable, if not stronger than mutant multi-wieldng in damage

1.63

Well, that went dark.

Damn. Also, I kind of forgot how this game works. Can I, say, use magic or items to buff myself and make my attacks hit harder? I don't remember there being spells or stuff like that. Only magic items that you can use.

Every single item I find has a sell value of 1gp.
I've already realized that you need to identify items you find to know their effects and their value, but doing this for every item I find just results in a net loss of gold since most items are worth less than the fee to ID them.
Am I doing something wrong?

Yes.
If you identify an eye from any monster you will know the price for all eyes from all monsters.

Now expand that to all items.

Seven league boots let you get a lot of money quickly by doing missions that only give you a couple of days/send you someplace remote.

There's some stuff like Hero that boosts stats a little, and some gear adds damage.

The reason martial arts is strong is because it scales with skill, so you can do tons of damage at 2000 skill where weapon damage is based on the weapon itself.


For selling purposes, you just identify one item of each type. Also sense quality helps with gear, which doesn't sell for much anyways.


Personally I get most of my money from prostitution. Good stat boosts too.

Those disgusting NTR quests… fucking Nips, man.

Being a spellcaster-martial artist is really powerful. When you learn the ability that adds an element to your attack, a high-leveled element scar/nightmare spell can pretty much double your damage.


Not worth keeping junk gear until you own a shop, which can sell things better than you.

You talking about the one where the guy wants you to sell him your wife? Just marry a horse or some other kind of monster and give it to him. You get the money and I think you gain karma when they're non-human.

Hey, that horse truly loves you and you proposed to it, still a dick move.

But I'm also talking about the somewhat similar quest for the mindbroken princess constantly getting gangbanged at the little inn in South Tyris while the leopard headed warrior bemoans his continuing love for her outside, referencing the Guin Saga. Nasty shit.

Never watched it, but fuck that is disgusting. I guess killing everyone in the gang bang causes issues for the guards?

i fell asleep and have teleportitis / malicious hand thievery in my cave. does this go away? i've checked for mutations, but can't see it in there.

oh, it was a curse on an item from misreading a spellbook :V back to grinding performance

How fun is a mage class?

difficult to get going, but once you have access to the mages guild it gets pretty fun you can disguise your way into the other guilds and learn their special skills

The their boss can see through it and fuck you up.
Though you can teleport them away or kill them if you're good enough.

There aren't really even true classes in Elona+ since you can learn every skill and will probably use most of them. The only thing mages really get is mana cost reduction and different starting skills. I personally prefer the Warmage class ability for casters (but you can change it eventually if you get lucky at Blackjack).

Early game is kinda shitty if you try to play pure caster since you have no MP and limited spell uses. Better to start out with gardening to boost your stats & rely on pets&archery/guns to kill stuff and perform for money once you can reliably complete Party Time! quests and have an instrument.

Eventually you will stock up enough spells/wands that they start being useful.

How useful are disguises in general?

As far as I know, if your karma or relationship with an npc is so low that you get attacked, you can use a disguise to make them neutral for a bit.

Magic has good aoe but has mp problems

lets you use the services provided by npcs of other guilds and lets you buy stuff from non derphy vendors even if you are a criminal

THIS IS THE LAST TIME

WHERE IS THE FUCKING LEWD? WHERE IS IT? YOU PROMISED ME LEWDS AND I CANT FIND THEM

Getting into elona, what exactly does potential do? Whats the fastest way to build up my relationship with a monster/npc/pet?

Potential is essentially how fast your skills or attributes can grow when they are being used. The fastest way to up your relationship can be to buy cheap gifts, actual gifts not any other item, and give it to your buddies. However, a usual method is to just take them out to battle with you and let them build relationship points up slowly whenever they kill something.

I'm pretty sure the only lewd there is if you change the sprites of some monsters.

lulwy might be the only natural exception

There are no lewds in the game.

Potential is basically a training multiplier. Say you do something that gives 1000xp to a skill/stat. If your potential is 400%, you get 4000xp. If it is 20% you get 200xp.

For relation it depends on your goal. If you want to raise relationship on a horse for the perv in Port Kapul, just give it 20 engagement rings. For a shopkeeper, prostitution is reliable and profitable. For your main pets, just let them roam around killing stuff in Harvest Time! missions. Gifts are faster but can be expensive.

Just make sure not to try Indian-giving those engagement rings, or they'll get pissed off and eat it when you take it back.

Made a chart of various condensed info from the wiki so you don't have to open 500 tabs to remember what tools or best or what trade route to use.

I might do another one later for equipment types or god bonuses or something.

user you're great.
I've just started this game like an hour ago and this is stupidly useful.

Thank you

Good shit, user.

Also note that the trade values are not 100% accurate and will fluctuate slightly based off negotiation and some hidden variable that I'm not aware of. If they are close you might not make a profit, but if you do something at like 1.5x value you'll be good.

So I made a martial artist with the intention of using buffs. I got myself a farm pretty quickly and I'm growing shit. No clue what the hell I'm doing at this point!

Fucking hell.

only 2500g to uncurse it, unless it has some really bad enchantments.

I had one pair that sucked my blood on my most recent character, lucky for me I rolled a 2nd wish at Noyel.

Been trying it, wont go away. Do I have to wear it?

I keep hearing about this shit but I refuse to wish for stuff I didn't find out in-game.
What's so great about this pair of boots?

Travel speed on the overworld is stupid short with it.

basically secure most "before its too late!" hard quests. Thats about 20k per errant and all you have to do is to walk to Noyel a few times. Its so stupidly easy to make money with its almost unfair.

mods will fix it

Post equipment.

Noob Martial artist mage here again. Got a second issue.

I recall reading about ranches being a good thing, so I looked up what monsters I should..Grow? Breed? Whichever the case, I think Beetle is what I need. Where do I find this little motherfucker or should I go for another monster?

just a lvl 11 priest, not too bad so far


putits, get cute

Yeah, beetle corpses give a strength bonus and breed quickly. Since it's a level 5 monster, you should eventually find one in the Puppy cave.

The little slime things? Is getting cute that important?


Time for dungeon diving. For the sake of my little girl not blowing its shit up, ill go alone.

For fucks sake this game!

Question about skill/stat training. Does wearing equipment that raises/lowers your stats/skills impact training?

For example skill xp follows the formula:
XP=EXPGained * Potential / (100 + SkillLevel * 10)
Also some skills like negotiation have formulas like:
EXPGained = Price^2 / (Negotiation * 5 + 10) while item price is greater than
(Negotiation + 10) ^2.

If I wear some gear that boosts my negotiation by a ton, will I get less xp due to the increased level, or just get more due to the increased selling price from having higher skill?

Also on breeding, some good things are:
Lame horses: Breeds fast, horse meat gives CON
Beetles: Gives STR
Mandrakes: Gives meditation/magic + useful for mandrake salad
Putits: Gives CHR + useful for putitorito
Wing Snail -> makes shades -> Shades: makes random creatures
Rabbits: Drops Rabbit feet which boost luck
Mutants: good for adding limbs to pets
Quicklings (breeds kinda slow): Boost speed
Other things can be useful if you need a specific skill, but they are what I can think of offhand.

For high level monsters, feeding them potions of descent to lower their level will increase breed power.

Your pet limit caps at 15 at around 75 charisma. After that it's usefulness drops off pretty quickly.

Putits reproduce at one of the fastest rate you can have and their meat increase your charm stat, allowing for more pets, therefore more ranches.

Well damn, Already got a beetle at the farm. Guess i'll ride that for a while before switching it for a putit.

My other two questions as of right now are…

Is maintaining the garden/farm with herbs a big thing? cause right now, it seems powering up is the main bit before beating shit up.

And are homes worth it? Do they mater at all? I like the idea of having a little place to chill at, but not at the cost of paying rent.

You'll have to pay taxes anyway after you reach level 6 iirc, and if you put your home near the embassy it won't be necessary to do a monthly trip.

Getting a herb garden is important in the long run, but less so in the short run. Herbed foods give big stat boosts but you need to find a way to keep your potentials high, which is difficult first starting out.

They're still good, but not mandatory. You also farm a ton of fruits for essential oil, veggies for kumiromi offerings, and wands from magic seeds, all while practicing gardening. Once you get a good stockpile of seeds, farms are very profitable.

Homes are useful, but not essential. having a home boost your monthly income and taxes, but if you can afford to buy a castle/palace, you can afford the taxes.

Aside from more storage space, the biggest benefit of homes are the servants. Your maid brings you guests who give you various benefits (new years gifts, jack-o-lanterns, monthly guild trainers, etc).
You can also hire shopkeepers that permanently keep their investment level and aren't subject to werewolf attacks & the like.

This means if you want 7 magic vendors (or any other type), you can have easy access to 7 in one spot.

Other reasons for a home are to dump items (bookshelf/potionrack/breadcase/feezer helps with this), and to you can also dump a good bed/cooking tool in your home if you can't handle the burden of it.

They provide a spot for your return spell in a central location. Lesimas is already covered, so I like putting mine near Palmia. Noyel is also a pretty good choice, since then you can do profitable trade routes really quickly.

At first a Castle/Palace isn't really worth it. Getting a maid is pretty important, and at least get a shack or something to move from your starting cave to somewhere useful. Once you get ultra-wealthy and can afford investing in shops, upgrade your house so it can fit more servants.

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Protip: Chestnuts are OP as fuck at low levels. Basically a re-usable poison potion.

60 levels in, and I'm just now finding out about bonus points. How do I get more of those?

level up with high learning stat

A relatively easy way to get fairly powerful equipment is to savescum after crafting or before picking up an artifact while already having the same artifact in your inventory, until you get a living/eternal force / godly equipment.

Then artifact fuse it before leveling it, if it is a living weapon.

Picture shows an example.

keep in mind you can only have up to 15 properties on 1 item

I'm still in north Tyris so I don't have access to artifact fusion, but these are probably my favorite pieces of gear I have so far. The ring I found really early, and it is amazing just because of the float/badweather tags, since it lets me ignore an aurora ring and wings. The boots have a pretty boring artifact roll, but still give 16 speed which is a nice boost. And the cloak is the only piece of interlocking gear I've found that's not on a weapon.

Never had one but I've read they inevitably end up getting a bloodsucking enchantment wich apparently is enough for some people to dislike them. Is it really that bad or just annoying when trying to do things like eating?

you can get past the bloodsucking with material kits or by wearing the unique item the crimson plate.

It is quite dangerous to have blood sucking in combat

Does anyone have any experience writing custom AI's for Elona Custom? I've heard it can be buggy, so I'd be interested in seeing a basic sample AI.

I have a nurse that casts healing rain whenever any party member's health goes below 70%.
It also lets me know somebody got lost and is about to die because she keeps healing the party every turn but nobody I can see is hurt.

I've been rerrolling names for 30 minutes. This game gives me good vibes, hopefully it's the final fantasy dwarf fortress I didnt know I wanted until now

Cool, so should I pick a warmage then as my class? Seems like the most logical thing, but with games like these you never know.

Actually yes, because it's easier to survive in the early game and because they've got a feat that increases spellcasting accuracy by 5%, which means you can wear heavier armor than pure mages.

Next game I'll just be user the lonely virgin with shit stats

There's a spell that lets you reroll your nickname, though it's pretty rare.

one of the better class feat, I find the thief one the best though

some skills are unavialable in custom ai, eg cthugha cant use his meteor

[Urge to read rises]
what's the worst that could happen?

LET'S RAGNAROK

red books never do anything other than spend a turn reading them

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do it faggot

Cubes are immune to fire

no one ever appreciates elona MADs

Yeah that shit is great, especially later on. When you beat act 1 and have a high enough medium armor skill, you get an ability that increases your spell effectiveness, which stacks with the "it enhances your spells" enchantment. Since having medium armor drops your cast chance, the warmage feat will really help, though the highest cast chance is 97%.


That shit is unbelievebly broken. For my exile, my "chain" starts at 13. If the exile is not fury'd, use uncontrollable rage. Then, when exile is fury'd but not magic equipped(med armor spell buff), magic equipped. Then on line 9, when exile is magic equipped and target is >3, cast crystal spear.
When setting ai, instead of setting an "action" you can use "and". I'm not sure if you can do that multiple times. My exile's crystal spear does more damage than mine using custom ai shit is overpowered.

For the valkyrie, it's much simpler. If valkyrie not enraged, use rampage(party enrage). Then if an ally is not hero'd, cast Cheer(party hero and speed buff), and so on.


That's the only one I know of.

Thanks. I'm still level 3, trying to figure out what the hell to do first. I've got 5 platinum coins now. Should I get cooking from the skill trainer? Seems like the most useful skill out of the bunch to start out with.

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Well I am at a loss. How do I pick items on the ground and put them on my inventory? Do I even have an inventory? I am trying the tutorial but I dont know how to equip a bow

Starting off, just go around to towns doing easy quests on the town boards and shena's quest. The putit cave is pretty easy too if you hide behind a putit and use * to target the acid slimes from afar with a bow or something.

Once you run out of easy quests (difficulty judged by $), I'd head to either Derphy, Port Kapul, or Yowyn. You can hire slaves at Derphy that are very useful early game. Yowyn has a horse merchant, is where you learn weightlifting and gardening, and has tons of harvest time quests that are always easy and good for building stats and leveling affection with your pets. Port Kapul gives you the quest for the Gene Machine (which lets you add skills to pets), as well as the fighters guild. If done at low level enough level, the fighters guild quests are incredibly easy, and it is possible to get max rank with the fighters guild at level 1 if you know what you're doing since the kill quests are based on your own level. You can only have 1 guild at a time, but the Fighter guild is the easiest to start, and it gives you cheaper repairs and cheaper identification services (and access to tactics/eye of mind if you don't have them).

In terms of skills, Cooking, Lockpicking, Anatomy, Weight Lifting, Gardening, Negotiation, Sense Quality, and Travelling should are all good early picks. And any other skill that seems useful.


rtfm or just hit buttons like a noob. g is get, d is drop, most commands are very similar to roguelikes

So how do Custom NPCs work? Do they spawn at certain levels or do they do it haphazardly?

woooooooooooooow

Get gardening, it gives you access to a bunch of easy quests which will let you farm plats quicker.

Press ? for help.

Escort quests are also really easy to do if you have Seven League Boots. Just avoid the Beauty and the Beast ones and escort quests to Noyel unless you are absolutely certain you'll make it.


pressing 'g' or "numpad 0" opens the pick up menu. Pressing * while hovering over an item in this menu prevents shit from being dropped. "Shift X" examines your inventory. 'd' to drop stuff. Pressing * in this menu allows you to drop multiple items without having the menu close. To equip bows, you need to equip it in the "shoot" slot rather than your hands.


Do you mean the unique ones that you can hire when you kill them? Pretty sure they are random.

Man these images are comfy as hell. Did the guy delete his Pixiv account? It doesn't seem to be there anymore.


Thanks. Grabbed cooking and going for gardening next to do those harvesting quests.

No, the ones that you put in the /user file.

yes

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Oh. Never actually done that before but I think you have to "make" the npc ingame first. Press F8, then create npc. It should then ask you for an npc text file then npc grahpic. I tested it out with the sample file and now I see it every now and then in the wild.

Think so, but you can still find all of his/her art on gelbooru.

Are bells worth getting after the Metal race got nerfed?

is there anything gamechanging I should know about?

Since I think 1.5.9, you can spend a couple plat to power level your spells, which also boosts your character level and magic stat as a result.

wew

still very durable late game if you can get enough hero cheese.

Is nothing special on the offense side though.

Bells always seemed more like an early game pet to me due to their absurd INI.

I aint parting with any of my pets for that shitty ass puppy

What the hell happened?

even the early game is way different now since you cant cheese wishes from fountains anymore

What do you mean?

on 1.5x you could cheese like 3 wishes just from drinking every fountain on worldgen dry

now Im good 6 hours into the game and not a single wish

Weird, the wiki says the chance for wishes is still 1%.

I just want to comment that the third eye is kind of dumb unless it comes with an eye socket

Eye sockets are there specifically so your eye doesn't get crushed by random things touching your head, and the hollow socket gives the eyeball and muscles some room to exist within and pivot the eye around.

That means that where the third eye is always depicted should be a giant malformation of the skull that massively reduces the volume available to the temporal lobes - which IIRC is where our "higher thought" and personality comes from.

I hope you realize you're talking about a game where a skeleton can lay an egg fertilized by a motorcycle from which a cat-shaped god will be born.

That doesn't change anything I said

Go squish a new eyeball on your forehead like an egg and see how well it works for you.

Their brains are probably shaped differently anyway. There are cases of people living relatively well with half a brain.

People like you are the reason star wars introduced this midichlorian shit.

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How are you supposed to keep your food-given resistances if you can lose them just by having a dream? Breeding?
Also, do pets ever lose that kind of resistance?

It's not worth doing that. You'd need lots of ranches to cover all the resistances unless you switch them out or something, not to mention having to deal with low breeding power of the monsters that give resistances. Sometimes a monster might give birth to the same monster but different element too. Don't think pets lose those resistances.

I assume theres no practical benefits to chugging a soup of wonderland as a fairy?

Nope, purely cosmetic. And by cosmetic, I mean a useless number in your stats screen.

The pineal gland is often referred to as the third eye, right? It's fictitious socket would probably be lodged within a larger version of the epithalamus, which would mean part of the brain's ventricular system is either relocated or expanded towards the most frontal lobe connecting to an opening outside of the skull.
Of course that would result in the frontal bone taking on a drastically different shape, and allowing the innermost of the brain to become more vulnerable to trauma, as there's hardly any real protection. So obviously there must be some invisible, magical membrane, barrier thingy granted by some divinity pact with itzpalt or some convenient, magical/fantasy science bullshit.

But rather than just functioning as an ordinary eye, I imagine it also compensates for the functioning of whatever portion of the brain that becomes lost due to the amount of space it would occupy, as well being an oversized magical pineal gland.


Now post pets

I think I'm gonna start playing this thing again.
I have thing about Golems. Being slow and meditating on my own, slowly learning things.
Last time I played, I got that hammer from the gods a small army of followers (that included an Orc Captain, nice fella) and mixed holy magic with the hammer.

What's the best way to play a Golem though?
I found myself doing lots of diferent things and only improving very slowly in them.
I'd also like some new sprites, maybe one that better fit the "I'm a giant statue that moves around and talks like I gotta move a mountain every time I do so."

Just pick a few skills you want to actively use and invest your platinum in them. Golems have the highest Life and lowest Mana so maybe stick to a warrior-type build in the beginning. Use STR or CON type weapons (I recommend Martial Arts though it is awful in the beginning). Get Tactics and Eye of Mind ASAP and Two Hand if using heavy weapons. Keep every shoe and inferior material scroll you find so you can eat em to improve your dreadful speed until you unlock the AP shop.
If you play long enough, you'll learn that the best way to do anything is to play whatever you want. You can even be a golem mage if you grind up your mana stat enough. By the time you're level 20-30 you can learn every skill in the game. It just depends on what you want to dump your plat on.

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You can upgrade your cart?

Yeah, at the same place where you buy shit with small medals.

Do food additives stack with Herb In?

They do? Neat.

From what I read all the original benefits from any food used as a base for a fusion will be added in along with the full experience you gain from the herb bit.

So that's pretty much an 800xp gain in every attribute from the herb bit, plus the xp/effects from the base food (i.e., benefits from horse meat + 800xp in all stats, benefits from resistance food + 800xp in all stats).

Just be warned that the herb bonus comes before bonuses from putitorito and the like, so ideally you'd want to start by eating a growth boosting food, then fill up with low hunger herb-in foods if you're going for ultimate efficiency.

Even on their own, they're great tho.

Last time I played I managed to reach lvl 26 or so and mana wasn't an issue.
I started fighting with the hammer because I picked Golem Cleric. Turns out, it somehow trained my mana something good and I picked up arcane casting for some minor buffs.
I gotta say the best bit was casting Hero and Holy Veil non-stop all day.

Can I ask what do those do?
I also remember putting a juice machine in my farm. I made a shit ton of food and didn't have the stamina to cook it all. Some made it back to my home but it wouldn't all fit inside my refrigerator so I started making juice with it.
Doesn't seem to fill me up or my pets. Does it train potential at all? Seems like it would be something usefull for a "training regime" for a pet.

What's this about Herbing? Can I put juices with it too?

SEND HELP

That's some Looney Tunes shit right there.

You get fucking bombs from adventurers who hate you? Fucking radical.

Now the maid attacks me on sight for some fucking reason and keeps getting rekt, moving my karma closer to prison sex.

Proper way to handle that:
Remember to leave a grill on one of the sides so you can see her though. Am I the only one that built a rape-dungeon?
You know what, screw the Golem, I'mma finnaly play an evil bastard with an Harem.

What's the best race & class to make Fernando, a fencer with a rapier that fucks bitches left and right?

The maid calmed down. The problem was that the fire from the bomb was was considered my own so after taking friendly fire she immediately went hostile. Now that the fire has gone she´s not getting hostile anymore.

Fairy is da bess when it comes to charisma
otherwise Juere, which should be your choice if you consider a melee hybrid

Snail tourist.
If you're a pussy, Claymores are melee users that focus on evasion and light armor.
Fairies have the best charisma and can't wear anything other than very light weapons and armor but gain a fuckload of DV when wearing said armor.
Jueres don't have the same restrictions fairies have but also no bonus to DV. They have the best starting dexterity wich is what you should be using as a fencer.

Fernando ain't no faggot fairy. He's a ladies man.
so Juere it is!
I always feel conflicted picking up that class and NOT using an actual clyamore. Seems somewhat wrong.
Then again, Fernando should be all about feeling wrong all day, every day.

This is some gay ass shit. How can I be a fencer without a rapier?
Guess it's either a Longsword (and use Longswords) or a Wakizashi (and use Short Swords)

Shortswords depend on dexterity, so I'd go with that. Strength is for actual men.

Tactics increases your melee damage multiplier while Eye of mind helps your criticals.

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At this point, I don't even care if it's a good pet or not. I gave him a claw and it's tearing shit left and right.
Named him Coin because that's what we're gonna be doing together.
Lot's of it.

Also, Fernando is actually working rather well.
Wakizashi + Crossbow combo doing wonders.
Focusing on evade and DV. There's been only one small problem so far. FUCKING WIZARDS.
The little shits melt me from afar.
FUCK YOU WIZARDS. JUST FUCK YOU
GODFUCKING DAMNIT.

If only there was a race that had good resistance against magic.
btw check out my latest achievement

The balls are not a reward, they are the means.
When you hand in 5 full balls to the scientists he´ll give you the gene machine.
The puppy is at the lowest level, you need a free slot in your party to get it, sending to town diesnt werk.

wew lad

You're a big girl

Oy, I've played before. I know how to do the quest. Already did too.
I'm not planning on gene-engeneering. I like to play thematic runs.
Fernando is not gonna farm, gene-engineer or use anything like that. Thieves guild (even thought it's the worse) and negotiation for me.
Gonna take up cooking + fishing since I never tried fishing all that much.
Then I get a palace and start my own criminal lair.


Never progressed that far into the game (highest level I got to was 31) but is that 3 gods in the picture? Or… all of them?
Christ on a pike. I have a ways to walk yet.

If you're talking about the winged pets, those are a valkyrie (evolved little girl), a titania (lvl 60 fairy, casts Nightmare) and Isca the fallen angel. I'm not even close to completing the South Tyris main quest.

Use incognito or a disguise kit and they will calm down.

Or nuke Palmia like a real human bean.


You're really gimping yourself by avoiding farming and gene engineering.

Also


Looks like I'll be wandering a bit longer.

Oh, those early game killing elea shitters, I take it? I'll never forget how I was done in for the first time by this one little green haired bastard, that just one-shot blindsided me outta nowhere in some beginner tower. Really not much in the way of enduring their spells early game, unless your lucky enough to get a chance of resistance from eating fairy meat (magic) or floating eyes (nerve). Just raise your lvl and hp related stats, and eventually you'll just outgrow their damage easily.

But just to be on the safe side, now would probably be a good time to start stacking up on some scale, cloth and metal equipment for fire and ice resistance later down the road. Since it won't be too long before you'll get your shit rekt hard by baptists and liches.

Can we agree that the most annoying enemies are those fucking pumpkins that throw potions at you? They're not hard to kill, but they always show up when you're fighting a tougher enemy just to add shit sprinkles on your sundae.

My friend, take a look at this: elona.wikia.com/wiki/Fetter_of_Earth
After playing long enough, you'll be gimping yourself too.

I know that no farming = no fresh food (and artifacts)
But food? I'll buy'em in cities and then cook it. I'm also bringing Anatomy so Fernando can cook some premium stake of something he skewered himself with his blade and his piercing charm.
Also fishing, because it's a gentleman's past-time.
Fernando oughta be suficient and even more than enough. I rely on my companions for their natural skills and companionship like a good Party leader oughta!

Yeah, those.
I know their damage will scale down, the baptists and liches don't worry as much as the fire breathing hounds.
I remember opening a door with my Golem back then and getting hit 23 times by a fire breath. Shrugged it off and killed the entire pack.
Then I opened another door and it was Darkness Hounds or some such. The HP read something like -273/512.

Do I get to keep god-specific shit after abandoning them, like the racial feats and the god items?

ye

That's not supposed to be used in battle.

Actually that one is. The main purpose is to train defense. After you're at a very high level, find some weak mob (send companions back to Inn). Everytime you take a step, the mob will make a bazillion atacks and you'll defend them all, raking up XP like mad.
Of course, you barely kill anything this way.

Well, yeah, I meant in a serious battle.

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Mother of god.

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anything invisible is the most annoying enemy when you don't have gear for it.

Your cat will still be a lot more useful with 13 slots and tactics, even if it doesn't need every single skill. And you'll spend a lot less on revive fees for it.

Also that item is for powerleveling, not for gimping yourself.

everything except the stat/skill bonuses and the worshiper ability.

Elona pros, how long does it take to git strong and finish North Tyris if you're smart about it? Over the years I've made a few characters, read the wiki, understand the mechanics pretty well and so on, but I always spend way too much time grinding and not getting anywhere before I get bored and quit.

Pic related is my last character and probably the furthest I've gotten. I'm sure that's completely pathetic for nearly 57 hours of game time.

Afaik you're about on track for where you should be, but I leave the game open afk pretty often. Also gene files don't reset the playtime.

How do I start as a wizard? How does this even work, do I get spell uses from books and then I have to buy more spell books? Where do I even get more (useful) spell books?

early game, special ammo is your friend.


Of course you can also read teleport scrolls, than just pluck them off down some corridors before reaching the next stairs. Its just not as cool though.

You get spellstock from reading spellbooks. Once you use up your spellstock you have to read the book again. Theres penalties in reading more than once at a time.
You either buy them from magic shops or get them as regular common pool drops.
If you want to stock up on a specific spell, the mages guild lets you reserve specific books.


or you just spam aoe spells

Does the success rate really depend on time between uses? I thought it was just dependent on your reading level and the strength of the spell.

Its about the spellstocks m8.
You get a reduction on the spellstocks you gain depending on your current stock of that spell. Meaning you get more stock overall if you use up a given stock stock before replentishing it.

Level 18 can do the tower of fire if you're smart. The other story dungeons can be done a couple levels later. Wait until level 30 if you just want to stomp them.
Level 45 is a pretty balanced level to finish the North Tyris story without problems, except FUCKING CLUSTER BOMB ROCKS have a very rare chance to spawn on the lower levels of Lesimas.

As for South Tyris, the first two story dungeons can be done at level 50-55, and I did the third one at exactly level 60. Never went in Rehmido, so I can't say anything on that.
I swear, dungeons with danger level 50-60 are the most dangerous in mid-game, because even though the higher level monsters have very high stats, the cluster bomb rocks will OHKO you unless you play as a race with life bonuses and only one blows up. Yes, I know that you can water bolt them.

Reminder that big sis is best god

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Wew, I can finally sell all this crap in my storage house now and go into towns without micromanaging my pets.

you do know that you can pay the nun in Noyel for absolution right?
right?

The cost is pretty bullshit

Goddamn, talk about black magic.

I was just walking around town and this guy disintegrated


Ah that's why I couldnt do anything, thanks

I could swear there was a way for Elona to let you play as every creature ever, and added more classes. But I can't find it anymore.

Assuming the formula on the wiki is true, there's no way in hell I could've afforded it.


you can unlock races by enabling it in the config file. I don't think there are any more classes tho.

There aren't any more classes in the vanilla game, so ts's probably a mod that's way outdated by now. Elona+ changed predator and gunner from enemy only classes. There are a couple of monsters that have no class at all, though.

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Good thing they keep blinding me because I don't wanna see what happens next

C'mon 140k is basically nothing

assuming you got at least 1 upgrade to your cart thats 4 trips between Noyel and Port Kapul

was meant to adress

Keep in mind that is on a level 10 char with likely a few thousand fame. The price should scale with both level and fame.

I've always thought Elona was cool but wish it had a more in-depth castle/town/what have you management. Or faction mechanics, for that matter.

You´ve got home customization, servants and shop investment, multiple specialized player owned stores to manage plus ranches and farms. You also got guild quests working against each other.

Its basically the same shit you get everywhere else except you skip the part where you need to get 20 wooden logs and a child prostitute in order to upgrade your shop´s open sign, and just dump in cash instead.

Well I mean that's cool and all but I'm more talking mount and blade type of management. Like you could found and run a city state while contending with the political machinations of your rivals, field an army, make alliances, ect. I know it'll probably never happen but if it did Elona would probably become my favorite game of all time.

Make a mod

I cannot into code, only dream. Besides, Dwarf Fortress is shaping up to be what I want. I just wish there was a DF-lite with cute anime girls I could switch to when I got bored of it.

Anyone can learn how to code.

I mean its possible but I've never had much of an interest in it. I mean I'm aware that it would allow me to make a ton of cool stuff, but it just seems so boring to actually do.

She was mostly for testing purposes anyway, then I ditched her shortly after nuking Palmia and… everywhere else. Yeah, I'm sure if I'm creative and patient enough I could probably pull her out of her rut. Just that it was so much more fun getting her into all the worst kinds of trouble until she got saddled with disease.

Right before she ends up another statistic of hard crimberry addiction, wasted in some alley at Derphy, I think perhaps she could use a fresh start.

Oh look, this is a thing.
Seems like it's still alive then.
Looks neat.

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It's better than

That's a terrible mindset user; never settle for shit.

I've seen good and bad games in every engine on the market user. Yes, even Unity.
"A craftsman that blames his tools is a bad craftsman."
Unreal is a great engine for instance, yet we got Revolution 360 on that.
I'm looking at the video and it looks fluid, the animations are great and the lightning effects are pretty good aswell.
All it's missing is an engrish translation with "Idiot of Sorrow" titles and I'm sold.

t. Inafune

I laughed.
But I'm basing my opinion on what you can see in the video. It simply looks like Elona with improved graphics. AND Unity sorta works with mods (though it's a bit more time consuming to start them).

3D is a bad fit for roguelikes because it requires much more work to create art assets, especially for a game like Elona that thrived on its eclectic "anything goes" artstyle. And animations just slow down the gameplay.
A better programmed open source direct reimplementation would be more useful project.

Wouldn't Unity be the material?

Look again. That video is 2D.
Didn't you know? Unity supports 2D now. And has done so in a long while too.
I expect tons of horrible shit out of it, especially for the "retro pixel art" crowd. But I also expect half a dozen worthwhile titles out of it.

Nah, unity is more like the hammer you hit things with.
A fine example is their "Shuriken" particle engine.
I played with it a bit, and you can do some good stuff with it. Provided you know some basic math formulas. Even without those, you can still make some basic good looking effects.
But one of the most common mistakes you see is folks abusing it like fuck. Then you got 495873495876 particles on screen and the framerate goes to 1 frame per year with folks wondering "how did this happen?"
It's always the dev mate. Blame the engine all you want, a bad dev will always make shit.

There's a flavor text mini patch for any Anons that don't have it.
Here is a flavor text release. No new executable; just text files to drop in.

Download: Flavor Pack 1 (MEGA)

This pack contains:

Flavor text for 18 NPCs
Item descriptions for 25 items
Card descriptions for 29 cards

These will of course be distributed with the next version release also; this is only if you want these in your game right at this moment.
mega.nz/#!lFxlkCia!SCTAlKl33ThuwXLvzgpCKeMYieOJPVxJzTUjqGEh2c4

I've always thought of engines as the metal and the keyboard and computer as the hammer and anvil.

Nah, the metal would be ideas you have.
You don't really "bend" engines. You use them to make those ides ideas into software.
I can picture all sorts of fantastic games, but without something to give them shape, that's all they are: ideas.

It's also one of the reasons AAA games downright suck nowadays: the shitty material (ideas) means you get a shitty end product. Try making an hmaburger out of sawdust. Even with the best pans, knifes and cook, you're still gonna be eating sawdust.

I won't deny that there's bad engines however.
I think we can all agree Java is terrible for one.

Thanks.
I got the Dark Souls sound effect pack, heavily recomend it.
I remember a pack with tons of new books, is that somewhere up still?
Also, what's that thing in OP about custom NPC's?
I looked into it and aparently it spawn some overpowered shit so I'm not sure I want it.
Are they just murder-happy things that spawn randomly or any of them do other things?

I should add that this is an addon to Elona Custom 1.66.2 found here; elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:22264

You mean the picture with monster girl sprites? Those are just a sprite change.
That sounds like moongates, which died with the chat server.

1.62.2*

Nah, in the pastebin there's a link for cNPC pack.
It has a bunch of folders with "level 1 to 10" and "level 30 to 40" that contain a bunch of files with NPC's to find.
The readme says the balance is outta whack (kinda expected) but it got me curious enough to maybe want to do custom NPC's myself.

elona.wikia.com/wiki/Custom_NPC
Uh. Shame on me for not checking the wiki first.

so how do I go about leaving a guild?
simply do the quest for another one?

Ayee.
The wiki mentions being attacked for treachery but I haven't had that happen yet.

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Aight how high of a shop rank do you need to get vindale cloaks and seven league boots to appear?
The wiki is extremely vague with its "higher shop levels" but never stating how high is "higher".

Probably 10000's high. Not sure how equipment shop ranks work but I have a magic shop at rank 4776 and I'm still not getting the stuff I want. Been dumping millions per day in investments.

wew

You might just get more bang for your buck if you try investing more in black markets instead, where anywhere else (unless your training chr/neg) is pretty much just a sinkhole
after about rank 200 or so from my experience.
The quality of stuff sold at black markets always trumps ordinary equipment vendors, especially when your looking for sox.

I've seen this one dude complain how once he got his magic shop past 20,000, it was of the exact same quality of items it had back when it was only at 500.

Man, I almost forgot how good it was to finnaly get a shop
It's kickass. Even better now since you can pick the type of shop. Equipment sells for 2x the value now.
And you can also directtly raise the potential of Charisma and Negotation of the shopkeeper directly there by dumping money on it. And what can you find on a store? MONEY OF COURSE.
PRAISE YACATECT

Also, aparently, there's a folder named "grafics2" inside the user folder.
It's to set the "atmosphere" of your companions, aka the little images that pop up when you talk to them.
Basic, normal face.
Embarassed, distressed face.
Fun, when she's having fun.
Happy.

Anyone have some replacers for these?

You can customize that shit yourself, its as easy as just cropping a picture.

It's not as easy if you don't have a waifu or a good pic to start with. Not to mention that you kinda need 4 pics for it to make sense.

what a pleb

Last time I drew something, hundreds of people died. I'd rather not repeat the same mistake.
For now.

unhappy virgin
The virgin
virgin loser
useless virgin
wizard virgin
virgin lonely
virgin sex

Elona please

Whaaaaat?

Don't worry, you'll eventually find methods to keep her a loli forever.
It means she leveled up

Damn. The idea of her turning into an onee-san seemed pretty cool.

You can always evolve her.

There's also an "older sister" that you can get as a pet.

pls email [email protected]/* */ if you're a cat named sakamoto and want a cute furret to lick your paws
#abragate

pls email [email protected]/* */ if you're a cat named sakamoto and want a cute furret to lick your paws
why would anyone want used goods like that

530 m
Bored af

Nice grinman

I wouldn't dare tainting its suckness with hyper training.

yep, ill post some screenshots and stuff later this evening.

youtu.be/GXvo7U4kDwg

At least we're not /tv- oh yeah. Right.

Fuck.

what is your useful math?

certainly not you.

what sort of fag takes the time to draw this shit and share it in public

New spawm bobt?
I like it.


That's Yacatect. She even gives you ana allowence!

Nice vid on this youtube.com/watch?v=fA5oS9Nmy_Q&t=116s

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What could this do?

Well you see, you put that on someone, and they'll use that staff to hit a rock hard enough to throw it right through the skull of someone.
So essentially, Lacross in Elona. Nice.

Also, is Yacatect suposed to be this overpowered or did the last patch increased drop chance of stuff. Every other thing I kill drops a card, figurine an eye/heart skin. It's getting ridiculous. Not to mention spellbooks, goddamn am I swanped in those. I don't even cast shit, I'm just making fat dosh out of it.
You know something's fucked up when that happens.

Must be Yacatect, I'm getting parts every ~15 kills and figures/cards every ~50.

Just decided to make a new character; how do I adjust ally AI again?

Oh, and does anyone have the monster girl sprite sheet?

Additional mods (sprites, music etc.): pastebin.com/vZ8Hfw6C

What the heck is that option?
It sounds kinky.

Thanks user. Can someone tell me where I fucked up?

Except you can hear them just fine, retard. Just because it's not your standard heavy metal close-mic drum set drowning out everything else doesn't mean you have to make an idiot of yourself on online anonymous image boards.

Yeah, I'd hit it.
in the face
with my dick

Never mind, I'm retarded.

Yep, it is a dumbed down Super Metroid and it's still light years ahead of Ori in level design you fucking imbecile.

I think you might be in the wrong thread, broheim.

what exactly does that shit do?
theres some feats that are not even explained on the wiki, like string assassin

From what I've seen it's just flavor text but I just started out so I might as well be talking out of my ass.

when's 1.63 custom anna
You said there'd be a 1.63 custom

Switches PV and DV against enemies.
An enemy with high PV will act like it has high DV, but dodge just as much.
An enemy with high DV will be absolutely fucked if they can't dodge.
whoops doublepost

HOLY FUCK

Fuck yeah. You know, given some time and character development, I could actually start hunting down adventurers and killing them for their loot. Sometimes they carry nice shit, and when they do, they have cursed/doomed items that fuck them over. And even I can't kill'em, I can nuke'em!

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OY. You're poluting the fine streets of Palmia with your shitty music!

One thing I found out is that guards will never throw rocks.
I'm trying to go to jail now and see if I can act for the guards there away from the prisioners.

Has anyone tried to play this on Linux?
Will it run on WINE?

Apparently.
elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Khym_Chanur/Running_Elona_under_Wine

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literally useless but

Any idea what nightmare does, also if I equip my black cat with a mind weapon will the suicides it causes keep the cat from licking gear?

Decreases resistance to mind, nerve, nether, poison, chaos, darkness and sound.

Cheers.

Well at least I'm not my maid.

Elona is the firat game whre I've ever willingly killed children and felt satisfied with a job well done afterwards. Not even Skyrim could do that.