How do you feel about artists who try to become indie devs?
When normal indie devs are all being indoctrinated into the cult of wrongthink witchfinder generals are artists from other mediums coming into vidya the next big thing for the none cucked videogame enthusiast?
Or the beginning of a whole new type of horror scenario?
We all know Plague of Gripes is a few more breakdown tiers away from a guro monstergirl dating sim set in RE4 territory.
But bleh, I tend to avoid western made indie games because 99% of them are cancerous. Don't see why artists attempting to make games would be any different considering there's just as many cancerous artists.
Andrew Kelly
On a basic, sympathetic level I like to see people branch out. As someone who likes video games I read this as more shovelware.
Henry Turner
I hope for the best but most come out out shovelware. that Adventure Time game was pretty decent though
Jace Russell
harmarists anubis game is already on greenlight. a "safe" version of it, at least.
but we know, we all know, the real version won't be on steam but we all know
Asher Phillips
They can't be any worse at making games than the current shitters we deal with.
Liam Rodriguez
user pls, If you love sorobo you are at least "animal ears and tail only" furry-lite.
Henry Fisher
That's gonna be a real game?
i must prepare my dick
Brayden Gray
I always felt that all the hate for furries stemmed mostly from their persecution complex. And I'd bet big money that if you tracked the most annoying furry from a couple of years ago up to today, they'd be an SJW of some sort. I'd further bet there's a large group of people that just shuffle from biggest, most special snowflake groups just so they can keep the high: it'd be like someone going from furry, to emo, to hipster, to SJW. Anything to feel like the world is against them, that they are unique, and that they are just ahead of the curve and better than the world.
Purge them with flame, yiff in hell, and all that, but I think furries have stabilized socially. They know it's a little in left field but it's what they like, so why be bothered by what others think about you. At this point, I just think that furries are weird, disproportionately skilled artists, aroused by nearly anything, and can take a joke, which is more than I could've said a decade ago.
Mind you, I'm being very generous with a lot of this. While I'd say a bulk of their SJW-types are gone, they are left with unparalleled autism that would even make Holla Forums blush.
David Martinez
Depends on the product they create.
It's not like someone who draws things then tries to make games instantly makes the same level of games as everyone else who draws things then just like makes game.
Alexander Collins
I find these people 'outside' the cliques are more willing to do lewd designs. Its a good feel.
Nicholas Thompson
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Cooper Thomas
Who cares if they're lewd designs if they look like shit?
Carter Torres
This is what the tumblr generation think a 'woman' should look like in vidya, you may not like it but this is peak shilling.
Anything that goes against this is a light in the darkness.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Both look like shit, get over it.
Caleb Fisher
If they can be saved from the tumblr influence, it can be interesting, especially because artists can be the best kind of idea guys to have, since they can materialize their ideas into something more concrete and workable than the usual idea guy talk.
Otherwise, they end up like yandev, get a swelled head from being trapped in a constant hugbox and never challenged or forced to improve or work at a decent pace, and then they crumble and give up.
Landon Green
If I remember my internet history correctly, the big change-up for how people saw furries from "those guys who stick to their own circles and do weird stuff" to "if i see a single animal in this fictional work i will make sure you yiff in hell" was Something Awful. they had this whole thing of going to obscure corners of the internet to find weird people to show off, stuff like diaper forums with a couple hundred users, stuff like that. I think an SA user found that one Buffy forum with thousands of posts and conversations held by a single, solitary member. But they eventually picked up on furry stuff and furry sites, did the standard thing of making fun of them for as long as there was stuff to make fun of, and furries just made the uneducated choice of trying to defend themselves from random internet trolls, and it just sorta went from there, as furries were, at the time, one of the largest sub-groups on the internet.
Kevin Stewart
The best design is a good, non-lewd design than still gives you a raging boner.
Wyatt Smith
isnt that the same art from that VN western game were the MC is a trap in a female only school? that art looks average
Jackson Ross
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Gabriel Stewart
There's a lot of overlap. Weeaboos and people known to draw porn might be safe, but not always because double standards. Also, artdevs often combine the worst qualities of gamedevs and artfags.
OILY TOILET
Gavin Young
This faggot right here. He's got it right.
Bentley Young
Not to mention how furfags are constantly trying to take over other communities and fetishes so they can have more worthless internet power and wider audiences to sell overpriced porn to.
Noah James
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Christopher Jenkins
Sorry
Hunter Collins
Only one of those posts is mine and I never claimed I'm an artist, shit-for-brains.
Sebastian Walker
If you aren't sexually attracted to furrybait, you aren't a furry. Having said that, I wouldn't mind fucking a busty catgirl.
Leo Clark
That kinda describes me, but I'm pretty much a nobody. I'm fine with that until I actually make something of worth. I don't know how many artists share that sentiment, because a lot of them seem like the world owes them something, even if they make nothing interesting. The fact my lewd shit is more popular doesn't make me feel good though.
yeah, reading comprehension has never been your boards strong suit
Luke Ramirez
Post a link to your lewd art.
Luke Martin
Whenever you hear some online drawfag say something like "I need donations otherwise I can't work on my art" you should be real fuckin' wary of them.
I've never heard a mountain climber or a hockey player say "I need free money to engage in this activity I love", if you truly care about your art you always find a way to continue with it, regardless of free time or financial stability (and really, how expensive is a notebook and pencil? The barrier to entry is pitifully small compared to literally any other artist endeavour)
I'm all for people using their hobbies to bring in an income, I just hate how indignant online artists get - no one deserves to be earning $8,000 a month simply because they draw a couple titty pics.
Isaiah Green
Well okay then. Nice punctuation, by the way.
Ian Kelly
Sorry, I don't like shilling myself.
Robert Ross
That implies you don't like making money from commissions either.
Noah Diaz
I don't. It's more stressful than people think it is, honestly.
Isaiah Russell
I think its cute.
Keep at it!
Joshua Scott
False equivalence, commission is fundamentally different than just buying something an artist made (think doujin authors in comiket). I doubt you could pay someone 5$ to write an entire book for you, I sure as fuck know you couldn't pay someone 10$ to make a game entirely for you.
Artists don't need your money to keep drawing poon they like but they are sure as hell entitled to charge you out the ass for them to make porn for you.
Jack Martin
There is nothing wrong with that. Ken Ashcorp is cancer though.
What I'm actually sick and tired of is all these western Kenkou Cross knock-offs. It'd put that garbage in the same tier as really bad furshit because Kenkou Cross and his Monster Girl Encyclopedia are trash.
Seeing this shit is always hilarious. What's next? Are you going to say furries are CTR or something?
Zachary Harris
To stay on topic. I recently looked at a bunch of Patreon rips, there I saw the project of one of the former Breeding Season artists which looked alright. The characters and sprites in the CloudMeadow thing look far more interesting and better than Breeding Season. I'm sure they will fuck that up somehow.
Adam Flores
No, they're just insufferable faggots who can't stop plastering everything they touch with anatomically and aesthetically dogshit character designs. They're such sad, shallow people that they need anthropomorphic fetish art to form an identity and react to people not liking their fursonas in the way a regular person would to someone ripping his face off, losing all distinguishing characteristics and transforming into your average attention-seeking faggots.
Hudson Garcia
Oh, so just like /monster/? Remember when they made threads on Holla Forums without naming a single video game featuring monstergirls, not even MGQ. Usually most terrible western furshit is bad because they are designed by people looking to make money making commissions for characters that are based on fursuits, that's why blocky snouts and garish colours are so common. You're implying that every single furfag has a fursona. I always find that amusing. Maybe I'm a bit out of touch with furshit in general since I don't browse boards like /furry/ anymore or visit furry websites like FA, but I haven't see that in a long time. Certainly not on imageboard. I'd rather not argue with you about this here. I don't think there is any use in doing so since you have already made up your mind.
Tyler Morris
The panda is cute, too bad that is forever in the hands of a guy that wants to be taken seriously yet he makes songs about memes
Nathan Garcia
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Brody Campbell
Somebody's sore.
Brody Bell
monster girls are furry
Andrew Walker
Hey now, he mentioned "aesthetically dogshit character designs" and KC was the first thing that came to mind. KC shit is far more popular on /monster/ than other monstergirl stuff, despite being the drawn version of partial fursuit porn. I don't know how someone can prefer fursuit gloves on girls instead of good art like Mizone, Nenemaru or Z-ton. Those people were even hyped about the western release of MGE. Get some taste, you pleb.
Levi Stewart
it will never be finished then
Benjamin Kelly
Any game related project on Patreon usually goes down that way.
Xavier Price
Other than that, I think she's kind of cute
Christian Sanders
Here.
Jacob Stewart
I am more bothered by the hair
Benjamin Cook
Totally
Julian Turner
Hair is cute.
Justin Diaz
Furry is about adoration of the human form, a form that most furries barely qualify for. Chiseled abs on a sleek and svelte husky, or massive heaving beasts on…well, basically anything and everything.
Monster girls tend to be about sexual domination and rape. Doesn't matter the shape, as long as something is being pinned down and consumed sexually, as if it was food, it's perfect.
Austin Rivera
pleb
Ryan Stewart
both are based on lust for human form, which is poorly disguised by accessories
Luke Howard
are you legitimately retarded?
Leo Collins
Your post is really silly.
Jason Peterson
The group and the retarded get togethers are the biggest part of their personality even if they have a sona or not. Just tells you how shallow they are. Not to mention that the group concists mostly of drama, talking shit behind others backs, rampant denial about not being obsessed with sex yet most times discussion, artwork and even activities devolve into it sooner or later.
Their marketable trait when meeting new people is the fad, the group they associate with and they do just that, market it. I don't market my hobbies or interest when someone asks about me.
Jaxson Rivera
Sure
Isaiah Morales
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Christopher Price
/monster/ doesn't fuck dogs to my recollection
John Williams
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Blake Bailey
Is /monster/ a fetish even?
I mean i'd fuck a dullahan but i dont go out of my way to look for dullahan doujins.
Dominic Clark
Oh it's ok though because they only want to fuck cthulu and plants with anime faces.
Mason Baker
You make it sound bad
Camden Evans
It's as bad as furries. I mean, once you stray past things like handholding and cuddling, most sexual deviancies become of the same caliber of degenerate, but I find it funny how /monster/ tries to act all high and mighty about what they masturbate to.
Asher Cook
If anyone sees Ken Ashcorp in real life. Kick his ass.
or fuck his ass. Twink is asking for it.
Henry Baker
Furrys and monstergirls are both about wanting to fuck things that aren't entirely human, and thus are either more interesting or welcoming than human women tend to be in this day and age. The major difference is, at least monstergirls still look human half the time, and people who like then don't consider it a fucking lifestyle.
Both should, of course, still be purged.
Hunter Sanders
I know nothing about this ken other than he uses some faggy looking panda as a fursona, why is he faggot?
Adrian Taylor
I have to agree with this. The scene in the West is rather shallow and most of the time creatively bankrupt. Drama is present in any fanbase, but with furfags it's far more common. The obsession with OCs and pushing that OC out there by commissioning popular furfag artists who charge out the ass for mediocrity (wolfy-nail for example) is one of the most damaging factors along with the patreon jewing for slow page by page updates of mediocre comics. When was the last time you saw a Western furry work get published? I certainly can't remember anything about that.
It's quite different in the East with kemono works appearing in monthly hentai magazines, kemono doujins and merchandise being sold at Comiket and Wonderfest and certain artists doing all types of art to go along with their kemono stuff. There is a quite a bit of crossover with other fanbases in Japan. Yuuki Ray is a big fan of furry stuff and he recently released an sol manga about a fox girl going to a human school. Nenemaru does both monstergirl and kemono art, same with Mizone, Nakagami Takashi sometimes gets featured in kemonomimi and monstergirl antologies. Stuff like that. I never see that sort of crossover in the West, unless it's shoehorned furshit to appeal to every possible market in some Patreon/Kickstarter project like Breeding Season for example.
Carson Clark
take a guess
Aiden Price
Alright,there's three options. You're the artist and you want to make a game.You hire a team and: -A.It ends up decent or above average by the coordination of the team -B.Ends up like a trainwreck,just because the team had a poor coordination/people being incompetent -C.Team's incompetent and it ends up being a NEVER EVER You need a good team or else it won't succeed,the hard thing is getting the good ones. That being said.I want to fuck that clown.
Jaxson Flores
It's because he's British.
Chase Edwards
japan is generally seen as less cancerous, mostly because all the drama is in jap and you will never learn it
Adrian Morales
But japs don't make OCs or fursonas with sparkledog colors. They do fursuit though.
Sebastian Morris
I can't remember anything other than that one guy getting banned from Kemoket for revealing his Holla Forums power level and Tojyo getting upset about people pirating his work.
Bentley Thompson
The western ones? They're fucking terrible and end up producing shitty, limited art and bland games. The Japanese ones? You should see what they're producing and how much it absolutely blows the fuck out of any sort of stiff, shallow western shit.
Aaron Nguyen
To be fair they might have their own incredibly shit variation of DA characters or something. Maybe the cancer just doesn't make its way here as easily because it's not popular.
Oliver Sanders
There is a bunch of shit on Pixiv, but it's not exclusive to furry stuff. I think there is more terrible anime fanart there than furry stuff in general.
Julian Gutierrez
as far as I've seen in my following of hundreds of Japanese artists, they don't do DA characters because they don't do self-inserts.
Logan Gutierrez
There's also more anime fanart than there is furry stuff in general, at least if the numbers below the search bar on the front pages of gelbooru and e621 are any indication.
Benjamin Hall
You have my thanks, m8.
Ian King
Stop shilling Schwig and his latest scam. He failed to deliver at least twice, only a fool would trust him now.
Jonathan Ortiz
If this is supposed to be an example of good art, it's small wonder they aren't all over it.
Lucas Martin
Isn't that site almost strictly furry though? I'm glad they have containment sites and centralized places for lewds.
Nathan Gutierrez
That's why I used it as a reference point for the total amount of furry art.
Nathaniel Reed
I feel it's fantastic that it's easier than ever to make games and getting easier all the time.
Big publishers are crushing the life out of the medium with their jew tactics.
Juan Fisher
Maybe if your waifu is a rape machine
Brayden Cook
Is the panda a girl or a trap? I'm okay with either.
Luke Anderson
Every single goddamn thread there is a fucking disgusting anime furry.
Ryan Lewis
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John Bell
Also, not an argument.
Ryan Ward
You're getting upset about /monster/ boyo and how msot of them are into vanilla shit and how that's somehow degenerate.
Kayden Cook
THIS CAN ONLY END WHEN THAT CLAM IS SLAMMED
Carson Scott
/monster/ is degenerate, and I am pointing out how butt mad they get when compared to furries, like you are doing now.
Sebastian Cruz
Typically the people like you turn out to be goons who are buttmad at /monster/
But hey maybe you're not, but it's just a horrible coincidence that most people who hate monster girls turn out to be goons, or closet furries
Sebastian Thomas
yeah, that's the degenerate part. But thanks for proving how not mad you are, and using another non-argument.
Andrew Myers
Have you ever looked at any monstergirl doujin? Unless you exclusively jerk off to shit like KC's Mad Hatter you're not vanilla.
Who said anything about sparkle fur? That's really amusing.
Grayson Ward
you keep using that word mate. You're not bringing much to the table either except "monster girls are furries because I say so"
Technically mad hatter is a mutated matango mate
Jeremiah Nelson
It looks like a human with barely any visual difference. It's vanilla, it's like drawing a human woman and then calling her a pineapple.
Ayden Watson
Like most monster girls? the visibile mutation is the hat, which is a living mushroom that if you put it on a normal girl they become a hatter.
Anthony Evans
and that's where you are wrong
Jacob Gomez
t. degenerate furfags trying to drag others down to their level
John Morgan
Sounds a bit silly. I don't like MGE at all and I think Kenkou Cross is a shitty artist who hasn't significantly improved since 2010, I prefer other monstergirl content because it has better designs.
That's MGQ, not MGE. That part of those games was far too weird for me.
Christian King
You are way more triggered than a leftists at this point, furfag.
Josiah Richardson
Same, some designs are hit and miss for KC.
Thomas Clark
dog fucking and fursonas are mental illness. Self worship involving being sucked off by your peers is gas worthy.
Stop being a faggot and grow up.
Luke Brooks
Where did I indicate I did any of that shit?
Brody Thomas
It has plenty of misses, that Cheshire Cat doujin that came out last year was mediocre and a ton of MGE is just recolours with different flavour text.
Adam Anderson
Your posts are infantile and give off faggot reddit clique vibes. Just grow up, and stop sucking dicks for your furfag friends faggot.
Asher Evans
So are yours, all you've done is strawman and name call.
Liam Ramirez
If you dont like it you can post on le reddit, you dumb queer.
Michael Rogers
Maybe you need to grow up mate
True I don't care for KC's Danuki
Easton Morris
Think you could write one better with your spechul OC?
Dress-up is for 12 year olds and halloween is over, grow the fuck up.
Colton Johnson
I don't care for KC either, partly because the faggot doesn't seem to know when to stop. Crabman's mostly kept his stuff within the realm of classic mythology, with some of the more common animals thrown in. He works with what he's got.
KC at this point says "See that sometimes biological organism? See that obscure little bit of mythos? I'm gonna put tits on it and call it a monster girl." There's too much. It's essentially on par with furfaggots turning every character they come across into a furry.
Crowbro a best
Jeremiah Price
What are you even trying to acomplish here? Make me go away? Because that's not gonna happen and there's nothing you can do about it.
Luis Morris
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Kevin James
I never get the chance to talk to folks like you in a civil manner and asking on /monster/ last time got me banned. How do you feel about monster anthology books featuring kemono content or kemono artist making guest appearances in monster girl books?
Hey man, I'm having a conversation with the other anons, while you are just calling me a faggot over and over.
Not mad at them, but you aren't in a position to call someone juvenile.
Noah Robinson
Says the dogfucker who has posted furries on the thread.
Jaxon Carter
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Lincoln Murphy
I didn't post any furries, I posted a real life fox, and a pokemon, which last I checked isn't furry, though I could see that being debatable.
Ryder Harris
But I'll gladly trade smugs with you anyway.
Robert Price
I think you need to go back to reddit and grow up
Sebastian Ross
If you were arguing in good faith you wouldn't blow your cover by defending furshit to begin with.
Just have standards next time and down blow your cover by posting smug pokefurshit. Furfaggot.
Jose Butler
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Adrian Carter
If anything pokemon taking dick would be bestiality no?
You still don't have much of an argument, you're just saying because I defended furries (which I more shat on /monster/ than defended furries) that it invalidates my argument?
David Fisher
Nigga, come on now, you're not even trying to grow the fuck up.
Connor Miller
That's not an argument son, if anything you enabled furries.
Jackson Sanders
Just because you post anime girls, doesn't make you an user, /r/furry redditor.
Anthony Powell
Didn't say it was worse, just different
Ok then I enabled them, what's your point?
I only started because the other user clearly wanted me to trade smugs with him.
Robert Williams
WEW
Evan Cruz
I remember the second pic but I can't fucking remember where its from, anybody mind giving sauce?
literally nothing wrong with senmurvs do you not like colors or something
Xavier Johnson
I just wanted to talk about pornographic games. Instead we have autistic retards complaining about fetishes they secretely fap too and weaboo retards posting smug and shit art while pretending they are not mad at said autists. What a a treat.
Has anyone played Monster Girl Island?
Levi Thompson
Even without fluffy calves Danuki are the best girls hands down.
yep and its good
Charles Morris
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Brandon Johnson
Colors are nice, but I prefer colors on things with more of a human form, like monster girls.
Aren't they adding a centaur? Hopefully you can friendzone her and use her to just ride around the island.
Isaiah Cooper
This isn't really a thing to any extent any more unless they're literally in front of a TV camera
It's the furries who aren't in it for the porn that you have to worry about
Joshua Phillips
You're nuts if you'd take SJWs over furries any day. At least furries can enjoy themselves, and their obsessive fetishes give them motivation to actually pursue and even occasionally complete projects.
James Robinson
/monster/ masturbates to shit that doesn't exist while a furry is far more likely to seek out sexual gratification by harming the animals their fursona of choice is based off of.
not to mention xenophilia and /monster/ stuff as a whole are usually far more creative/retain a higher degree of quality, and attract far less autism than furshit
Isaac Cook
How would you know these things user?
Aiden Taylor
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Carter Bailey
Oh fuck I almost forgot to mention snouts
Robert Cooper
Schwig, S-Purple, whatever he calls himself is a lazy con artist that ran Breeding Season into the ground with constant artstyle changes, shirking his work onto other team members and the retardedly high paycheck tge project lead was giving him (which still wasn't "enough" apparently). New project will go the way of Bro Quest and Towergirls and now BS, especially with his lies and asset theft (Sub Tank contributed but was told his artwork would be used in BS) following him to a new project.
Juan Gomez
If it has a snout it's out.
Jaxson Brown
amen
Connor Richardson
arent humans faces just modified snouts? (compare: chimpanzee faces)
Robert Sullivan
Nothing wrong with snouts
Cooper Perez
In a sense, but we're talking full-on dog snout here. Elongathed mouth and nose which would actually render speech impossible without parrot-like mimicry.
Caleb Hall
But user, if a being differs from humanity so much so that it has such a differing facial structure, it will have too many chromosomes and is incapable of you impregnating it. You would die childless, even if you were to ever be with your semitic snoutfu.
Brody Morris
As long as there's porn in it
Nathaniel Walker
other way around works just fine though
Jack Cruz
mah nigga
Cameron Wright
No user. That only happens in fiction.
Julian Baker
You don't say.
Evan Rodriguez
Ooga booga where the sauce at?
Robert Morales
Mizone.
Adam Turner
Yeah, I knew that, but I searched in the galleries tagged with mizone on exhentai and didn't find that specific one.
Joshua Johnson
It's a censored pic from his pixiv.
Kayden King
Thanks, and nice holy trips.
Adrian Flores
He sometimes posts uncensored stuff on his tumblr but sadly those images are in a lower resolution than the pictures he posts on Twitter and Pixiv. His most recent release are two digital doujins featuring monstergirls.
Dominic Gutierrez
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Brandon Walker
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Brody Rodriguez
post some good art then faggot
Aaron Cook
This is fucking pathetic. It's like saying liking loli is CP. Get the fuck out of here, you stupid cunt.
Evan James
What the fuck am I even reading?
Christopher Hall
I think it's great as long as they stick to art. I'd much rather a good artist team up with the needed talent rather than try to fill in the gaps themself. Even if they're the artist and idea guy, they should get someone else to help them with the actual game part. I'm not going to go to my mechanic to get a sandwich just because he has a good idea for one.
Noah Jenkins
Nah Mr. (21)
Chase Hughes
Ok Mr.(2)
Josiah Martinez
what was disney thinking
Jordan Taylor
It's fortunate that some fursonas don't have a real animal behind their design. For example rainbow-furred sparkledogs and dracolizards sporting mohawks don't have a real life origin.
Lucas Price
Why did you reply to a day old post in an hours old thread?