Lets talk about World of Final Fantasy

Lets talk about World of Final Fantasy.

I'm honestly surprised at how good this game is. Not to say it's anything above a 6/10 though. So here is what I think:

The pokemon mechanic kinda reminds me of KH:DDD mixed with FXIII-2. The fact that they still managed to stuff pokeballs in there in some weird way with prisms was nice, and the actual battle requirement actually requires some forethought and strategy so it's not just "Get low health and throw as many balls at it as possible". The size mechanic is neat but the game rarely ever gives you ANY need to be unstacked, I guess if you're playing in turn based mode it's more useful since it means more turns but in full on ATB mode why would you give a shit when you can kill things in five seconds with it? The game is also balanced horribly, everything is so goddamned easy and it sucks because you can see glimmers of genius in some of the battles, like the Ice cave wolf who summons smaller wolves to fight with him that was genuinely challenging for me.

I like the customizability of the party, and this is especially do to the pokemon clone. The upgrade system is straight forward and cocketease-ey enough to actually make me want to play the goddamned game more which is rare. Collecting them all doesn't seem like much a hassle either, and the fact that you're never forced to using ONLY the "evolved" state of any monster is nice. So far the variety of monster is a little lackluster but it's not much, introducing 2-3 brand new enemies and 2-3 recolors of old enemies with different abilities isn't ideal but it's serviceable. I can ignore it because some team setups might require different abilities and being stuck with a monster you don't like because they have the abilities you need is never fun. then there is the level up board which is even made with customization in mind with the occasional blank node that you can insert abilities into is good.

The dungeon design so far is lackluster. I'm up to the fire cave now and it's still mostly just simple dungeon designs you'd expect early on in an RPG which sucks because I'm quite a ways into the game now and I expect it to get more complex, and it is, just at a really slow pace.

The QoL mechanics are a bit lacking too, or just misplaced. Why the fuck is there a whole button dedicated to switching between the main characters? This would have done better as a menu option honestly since it's purely aesthetic.And then there is the retardation of having a dedicated jump button. It is THE MOST pathetic jump I have ever seen, and what's worse there is no point in the game that I have seen where you are actually required to jump. To add insult to injury the characters walk PAINFULLY slow. Having a dedicated run button would have made it leagues better in my opinion.

Overall it feels like they actually took good concepts from other Final Fantasies and put (Mostly watered down versions) into it. You can see hints of FFX's Grid system and FFVII's materia system, and more in it but they're never as fleshed out as they originally were.

Another thing is the translation. You know the translators fucked it up every which way and then sideways when someone who doesn't know japanese, who never played the game in japanese can tell it's totally fucked. At first the characters just felt bad. Lann especially and that fox-chibi thing. But then there are points in the game where you can see the translators left in bit of dialogue and didn't fuck it up and it's genuinely funny but the moments are rare. Throughout the whole game Lann is just a fucking 4kids anime tier protagonist who is just a bit more annoying than usual. He constantly makes bad jokes and a lot of what he says borders on horrible wannabe "meme" material and I specifically remember one instance of "owned" coming out of his mouth, but then there was a moment with a little pixie thing that kept up with your Prisms involving puns and it was actually pretty funny. That was the point I realized he was supposed to be the stereotypical punny jokester but the translators just got the "jokerster" part and translated "jokester" to be "Memester" instead. Reynn on the other hand just comes off as a total bitch, she shows hints of having more personality than "Overzealous straight man" a few times but nothing ever comes of it. Really, aside from the main three most of the side characters are perfectly fine and interesting, unless they try to be funny, then it just comes off as horribly forced (The Refia and Sherlotta side episode where they fight the undead princess comes to mind) and it's just jarring to see it go from something enjoyable to something grating so fast.

tl;dr It's a 6/10 game.

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Also the Sephiroth summon is fucking something.

it's fucking trash
square enix tried to make a leap frog pokemon game

I wan 2 fug the chibis

How far into the game are you user? I thought it was pretty trash for the first two dungeons too. Especially since that hour long opening that had nothing but the three main characters talking and bantering and learning what the fuck was going on.

I lost it during the anime scene where they go off a waterfall and scream "gravity, no!"
It isn't just trashy memes, there is this odd mix of random references to shit from decades ago, along with dialog that sounds like the sort of crap you would hear on a sitcom that gets cancelled after a few episodes. I felt like I was watching Family Guy. It reminds me of the shitty localization in Tales of Hearts R. How in the fuck can anyone read that script and say it's good enough to ship?
The game looks really cute and fun, but the dialog fouls the entire experience. I'm glad I saw a friend play it before getting a copy, I'd be pissed off paying full price for a game with localization so bad it makes Working Designs-tier writing seem genius.

Looks pretty good, but I need the price to drop or figure out a place to grab Vita games from.

Are the translation fuckups just memes and bad writing, or does it delve into political crap and zhe/zir pronouns?

i played the demo

It isn't SJW-ish, it's just irredeemably awful. Any charm the game has is crushed by the grating dialogue and Mirage descriptions. It's like the worst practices of NISA, Treehouse, and 8-4 condensed into a single cringefest.

This is basically my feelings of it.

The whole game seems to be designed for kids (so why they're releasing this on the fucking Vita and not the 3DS I don't know.) everything from the ease of access, to the fact that almost EVERY line is spoken, and the difficulty scaling point to they made this with first time FF fans in mind helped me dismiss it a bit. To me it's more like a bad 4kids translation so in that sense I'm sorta kinda a little okay with it but it's still incredibly painful to sit through something that's mostly well designed and surprisingly competent (Which might be because they got a brand new director on the case and not one of the crazy "visionary" idiots who head their studios these days) be so horribly mangled with the dialogue.

Wouldn't say it's that bad, I mean, there is no game breaking bugs and the game at least respects the references to the FF series in most of the dialogue is nice, but yeah, a LOT of the descriptions are pretty fucking awful, very few are chuckleworthy, and the main characters are fucking annoying as balls in most instances.

What is strange is there are these odd references to shit like 90s SNL skits and old 70s and 80s sitcoms. It's so blatant one of the mirage descriptions states "And if you get this you are old."
It isn't just lazy, it's downright bizarre. All I can think of is the localization was done by an amateur writer in his 40s re-writing the original script and going to reddit to try and figure out how young people speak. I've played shit localizations since the time when people were dumb enough to put working designs on a pedestal, but I've never seen a game with re-writing as grossly offensive as this one.

Which Chibi would you hug?

Also this is happening. Here comes the Free DLC.

why. why can't square enix just do a normal fucking localization for once.

This one.

Okay, that one got a chuckle out of me.

kill me

I think the second one is mildly funny and the 4th one isn't all that bad. but really those are the worst thing in the game, and in the end it's not even all that bad in the grand scheme. The voice work and main character dialogue are bad as well and they're persistent through the whole game.

I was gonna get it until i heard about this shit. Sad as the game actually looks sorta fun and i like the chibis, maybe i'll grab it when it's 10 bucks or so.

Jesus Christ

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I bought the Vita version for 40. But really, the mirage dialogue is like the writing in the pokedex, you're going to skip over that shit after the first few.

I'm more saying "Why are you complaining about something so out of the way when there is shit in the way that is also annoying as fuck."

FOR EXAMPLE: How about how they made Lann into an unfunny dumbass or how Tama's verbal tic is the most the anoying the thing in the world.

What's funny is the mirage descriptions aren't even the worst part, the main script is brimming with more cringe than a speedrun marathon.

Did you just copy and paste the same thread you made last time? Are you being paid?

I'm sorry I didn't call the game shit outright, user-kun.

Don't you know you can only discuss games that aren't new releases on Holla Forums? That is of course unless the game is popular on Holla Forums, which Final Fantasy is not. Except XIV.

The game is being discussed. The problem is it's a comfy game spoiled by shit localization, and unfortunately that is going to be the center of the discussion. It would be great to have some positivity but the CURRENT YEAR game industry makes that virtually impossible and there's no end in sight to the endless chain of disappointments.

I just hate chibi art in general. The simplified designs just dissapointing.

Is the soundtrack good though?

I love the chibis, they are so cute, if i didnt have to play parts as kingdom hearts rejects id love it.

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So far it's alright, typical FF affair so it isn't bad by any means, but so far nothing has really stood out to me.

you know what always gets me about stupid shit like this? it's not just one guy doing it. someone typed that, and showed it to at least one other human, who said "yeah sure, that fits", and those two passed it along to another guy who said "sure, i'll put that in"

at least three people thought that was funny enough to put in a game that would be seen by thousands of people

That's actually really cool and cute.

MOOGLES DON'T HAVE VOCAL SPEAKING ROLES!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

IF I WAS MAD BEFORE NOW I'M FUCKING LIVID! FUCKING COCKSUCKERS NEED TO HANG, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I would have bought it at 19.99cad but not 79.99cad

Why the fuck would you buy a vita game? They're free now.


Just breathe the pain away user

They actually get its attacks right, which is pretty impressive.

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Why wouldn't they?
Besides you can turn the voice acting off, in fact the Vita version doesn't even come with it on cart, you have to download it separate from the game.

The entire series got fucked over. Xenogears got fucked by FF, Xenosaga got fucked by executive meddling, and Xenoblade got fucked by badly done translation.

This the dialogue gives me the cancer

i want to fug chibi doll girls

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Ep 6 is Chrono Trigger.

Princess Goblin is a qt tho

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Skip this scene?: The Game
Been at this a while now, and still no gameplay in sight.

Can we just get chibi porn already? FUCK it's all this game's good for. Gimmie Shiva too while you're at it. This has the best shiva.

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I dunno, man, I had to pause and fap many times to FF7 Shiva when I was a little kid.

Does Murrika have any nukes left? Can you drop one on Squeenix HQ, please?

I'm done. That's it. I'm out.
Fuck this shit. This is not a video game. It's not even fit to be called a walking simulator. It's over-expository hand-holding trash.

Of all the problems with this game, that's the one that pushed you too far?

The gameplay looks interesting in theory, and I can ignore the shit-beyond-shit art style because I don't care about nonsense like art.
I'm sure I'd come to hate it for deeper reasons, if the game ever actually let me play it.

Yeah, it's a shame ever time Final Fantasy does something experimental with ATB they couch it in trash. Same happed to X-2. In other contexts, that battle system would be great. In this WoFF, I'd add a third stack, and change it from standing on top of each other to tactical support links ala Trails or pairing up in recent Fire Emblems. Same exact mechanic, now simply not retarded. Same with dress spheres. Limit them to weapon and change it to stances.

I played the demo. this shit is bland as fuck. To make it better turn the battle speed up all the way, set the view to always be in classic. and keep it on "wait"

its still trash though. very boring. very easy. the only unique thing about the game is the chibi look to the characters. the worlds are very generic looking.

Oh shit, what happened to X-2?

Lightning Returns did the "dress sphere" style job system pretty well, I thought. I couldn't have given less of a fuck about the story, but that game was surprisingly fun to play.

That's more depressing than it should be. Why couldn't they just leave it alone? They drag it out of the mausoleum of dead IPs for this piece of shit game?


Youtube keeping up its reputation for quality, I see.
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so its buggy as hell and will make your console explode?

Saturday is when this and dragon warrior builders is coming in the mail. all I need now is hot chocolate and a few weeks off from real life.

The battle system was actually really good, but they'll never use it again because the rest of the game was a total failure.

Y u do this?

i want to hug that motorcycle

???

>unless it's nintendo :^)

Both the WII U and 3DS have been fully hacked. Buying games for either is inexcusable.

You can skip the opening though, or do you mean fastforward through?


Yeah, that weirded me out about Mother 3 too, but what does that got to do with WOFF?

Personally I'd leave that as is and rebalance singular units to be better and have more advantages in battle.


I still buy video games for both :^) Just last week I bought the DS remake of Shiren the Wanderer complete with manual and case for 11 bucks.

Whoever made this dungeon needs to die.

Does anyone have that pic of where to start ff?

How's the Vita version of this game?

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Same as the Ps4 version minus the shiny lighting I'd assume.

The Loading screens are just long enough to be annoying but short enough so it's never a HUGE issue. The Vita version also doesn't have any voice acting on cart. You have to download it off the eshop to get it.


I think this list doesn't represent the Lightni-errr XIII series well enough. Even from a story game standpoint XIII is a fucking travesty. The plot makes jack shit sense, and the characters are all unlikeable and retarded. I genuinely think Snow is just an incredibly attractive down syndrome jackass after playing it. XIII-2 is BY FAR more gameplay focused with maps that actually manage to be complex and dungeon-ey and a combat system that is actually fun at first before getting monotonous. Haven't played XIII-3 year but I expect a similar improvement considering who made it.

fixed

thanks


uh, thanks too

I'm on iv should I go straight to vi or do v?

I still can't take this game seriously with the abysmal chibi look.

The game doesn't take itself seriously either. The story is generic as fuck and there is frequent comedy breaks between "Serious" life threatening scenarios. I figure the japanese version is better in the humor regard though because the english translation is just bad jokes and memes.

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That's a big bridge.

SE is really losing it.

It's worse because the characters run fucking slowly and the Joyride ability doesn't help at all.

I agree but didn't want to spend another hour in MSpaint to fix the mistake.
FF6 and Tactics is the only really good ffgame anyway.

in the USA FFVI was 3. We got I,IV (ff2USA)& VI (then everything form 7 on ward). I personally started with the NES game and played them in order of release bank in the day. I didn't play V until emulation and Translations made it possible, but personally I am not a fan of the Post SNES games. The stories are not related, so it doesn't matter but if you like 4 then you will like 5 & 6 by default imho.

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does this gay little game have the tactics advance/A2 cast?

still relevant

I have some questions.

Is it fun?
It looks from what I seen like you only ever have a party of 2 which seems limiting.

How do the summons work with the medals?
They have ranks, are those tied to the characters or does using them more level them up or something.

Haha reminds me of the level from no more heroes where it's just walking forward with a couple mooks popping up between

The only one I disagree with is crystal chronicles. Why?

Because it's exactly what happens in WoFF. There's no gameplay apart from 2 heavily scripted and dialog-interrupted tutorial battles until mid-Chapter 3.
The game doesn't really start until Chapter 6, and you're still only halfway through the gameplay tutorials in Chapter 6.

There's also way too much exposition, considering it's a pokemon clone. Storyless open world sandbox is how all games should be nowadays. This shit is just bad.

In the grave is how you and your ideas should be. Fucking awful tastes.

There's so much faggotry in this image, I don't know where to begin.

Don't tell me you actually BUY things, anons.

yes form time to time I BUY things.
would you download a car?

The party system is weird. You can have up to 6 but if you do you're gimping yourself. You stack your units on top of each other you can have 4 or 2 units, or if you do some weird fannagling with phoenix downs 3 or 5, but most of the time you'll have 2 because having anything else pretty much gimps you unless you have specific units.

The game has a stacking system where the character's size is important, there is 4 sizes, S, M, L, and XL. Smalls always go on top and can be stacked on top of mediums or larges, mediums can only be stacked on top of larges and larges can't be stacked on top of anything. Extra Larges can't even be stacked normally and they're treated more like expensive summons.

You can unstack in the game and some units have abilities to make it practical to be unstacked but when they're stacked all their stats and abilities consolidate into one meaning you can spam powerful moves more easily and it's the only way to use some spells like Death and Holy.


No there isn't. There is literally a point where a character basically says "It's that way because I say so"

This looks fun, too bad the translation is 4kids level.

For you.

epic halfchan maymay xDDD

WHAT THE HONK

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Woolsey gets a lot more shit than he deserves. Most of what he did he did because hardware limitations and retarded Nintendo/Square Enix policies about translation and a lot of what he did in FF6 was later accepted as canon in japan, mainly how Kefka was full on psycho clown. In japan he was a more generic villain character.

The reason most people praise him is because he did all of this and still managed to make the overall plot and sidequests understandable and did it in such a short amount of time, it isn't for the quality, but considering the hardware limitations for the games the quality was top tier.

If I could I would

I'm beginning to wonder if modern localizations are getting worse than the 90's versions.

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Oh it is. They took from Woolsey "Good translations don't mean jack shit as long as it's catchy." it seems most modern Square translations are just that, unless it's big projects. "culturalization" that devs like the Treehouse and 8-4 use is actually only vaguely based off woolsey and more based off older NoA Treehouse practices, mainly what they did with Earthbound 0 and 1 (Ironic considering Earthbound failed miserably).

Installed the VPK as soon as it leaked, still haven't bothered trying it out though. I might care about memey localization if the source were at all worth caring about but I really doubt it is. Just a 7/10 spinoff that probably didn't take itself seriously judging by the art style, probably good for one playthrough at most.


First one is perfectly fine until the last line that had no business being there, great way to ruin a cute little joke. The other 3 are indefensibly awful though, yes.

That's the impression I get. Like even in japanese the character's tones are never that serious. Everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING, points to this being a game developed with kids in mind.

I thought that this shitty translation in US games is just meme until I saw DansGaming capture Copper Gnome on stream. It had exactly same fucking text.

Why do you let this happen?

You mean like them repeatedly saying it was?

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But user, that already happened.

It was, which means there is even less reason to have references to shit like Norm Macdonald skits and The Honeymooners. That reminds me of when they put a reference to 80s Crazy Eddie TV ads at the end of Danganronpa.

What? He said Xenogears not Xenoblade you stupid fuck. Xenoblade doesn't even come close to Xenogears. The only thing they share is SOME developers and the Xeno name.

Yet they attempted to "remake" the mythos with it, which is why the White Whale and the Eldridge crash are more or less identical.

Everything in the game I mean. I've barely played it with japanese dialogue but the character's body language is all goofy and exaggerated like a very fluid anime. The plot is super simple, almost all the dungeons so far are basically starting dungeons with more and more rooms tacked on and the closest thing I've come to a puzzle is the ice cave with slippery slidey floors and you have to navigate them to get bonuses and shit.

Gameplay wise? It's hard to compare because they're basically different type of RPGs. Story Wise? Also hard because the translation was fucked and Xenogears was the 5th part in a 6 part trilogy that never ended up happening. But from the japanese reception Xenoblade X was basically the setup to another series. The entire game screams "opening" and it ends on a cliffhanger leaving primordia to basically become the world in Xenosaga.
the first Xenoblade had a better story than xenosaga.

me 2 fam chibis r haw7

Just started playing this last night. The fucking dumb Puns are killing me. The voice acting is bad, but its passable however the writing is atrocious. The demo was misleading to say the least. God I hope this gets better because I genealogy like the ATB combat but so far its trash.

genuinely*

So… did anyone ever figure out why Final Fantasy VI switched main characters in the middle of the plot from Terra to Celes for no apparent reason?

Why people are still talking about this game if it is so shit? let it die. Bad publicity is still publicity.

The problem with FFVI is that it doesn't really have a definitive main character.

Some believe the sharing of focus helps, though many fill the spotlight more than others.

Terra, Celes, Locke, and the Figaro brothers get the lion's share.

that is why FFVI is the best game. If anything Kefka was the main character.

this

The writing stays the same, the dungeons never get more complex, and in fact there is a good while where they're just hallways, But fights do get more interesting as you unlock more colleseum battles and fight things that are a way higher level than you and actually require you to strategize.


Because it isn't shit, just a great battle mechanic buried beneath a mediocre dungeon design and shit writing.

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Japanese script way better. Kill yourself Richard Mark Honeywood.
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