Euclidean WEBdemo

Objects like this tree in 1v and be turned into this tree in 2v.

What do you mean "turned into"?
Those are two different models made by different people.

they might as well come out and say they're stealing your information at that point

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Euclidean are a scam company that claim they can give graphics unlimited power to draw upon without placing any stress on a computer system whatsoever and they claim to be able to do this by replacing polygons with small spheres or particle effects (which would put more stress on a system) so you could build entire games out of these spheres as detailed as you want without needing anything other than half a toaster.

But what you're seeing is actually just two different models made out of polygons like everything else.

They came out with this bullshit claim couple years ago and everyone denounced it for the bullshit it was. They recently made another video where they point out all this criticism and then try to divert from this by saying they personally like one of the guys who criticized them (none other than Notch) and they had no idea why he'd say mean things and ignoring the actual criticism from all the other experts they mentioned.

Shill, nigger. You a bad shill.

Its fucking trash with no practical application. Hell those envionments look worse than something out of Far cry 1.
What exactly does he mean by "unlimited power"?

alright fag, you see in the video it proves you wrong, DUR HUR THE VIDEO PROVES NOFIN!!!!

goddamn do you listen to yourself you fucing idiot? its an old technology but its new in the sense that its being used in video games. of course its going to look like shit and not like crysis you fucking shitstain.

also stop posting your degenerate porn.

Thats not how technology works you shill

yes it is retard, technology is created by someone, and it gets improved upon by others and used in ways that previously was not thought of.

Except they have improved nothing at all. The ability to scan real life objects to create 3D models has been present long before they started their scam.
Their "unlimited detail" buzzword seems to just be streaming data through a server which is rich coming from an aussie company.

The entire sell of the system was that it will give photorealistic results because its scanning real objects
Give me a break you kike.

He's saying that all the detail doesn't have system requirements, that it runs off of thin air.

I have seen that video and I know it proves nothing already. It's just a bunch of misdirection and non-addressing of issues raised by everyone else.

Kek, every time.

Go scam someone else, faggot.

I remember seeing this shit in the 90s in a Museum of Technology. A guy in a white coat made me and my brother stand behind a yellow line with headsets on and we had to side-shuffle out of the way of bass or something. It's not new. And it looked better back then, too.

Make me cuckold.

Wolfenstein 3d used this something similar but was really primitive and the technology wasn't there.

top kek
Do they teach nothing in your aussie universities?

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yeah, if the technology was given to actual tripple AAA game designers that dont have to worry about making their game look better and instead focus on the game.

the games they released for their holoverse was made by 3 people in 2 months.

you dont realize how amazing it is, the technology going behind the engine not the graphics that is shown.

this autistic?

Damn. I'm so lonely I thought about sucking that dick. I think I need a new hobby.

it just looks like fucking voxelstein
even after it finishes loading, it still doesn't look as good as their videos claim
besides, i don't see what's so magical about this. can't current voxel technology already do this? voxel quest is a thing.

The only magical thing is watching this shill squirm

Our university students are stolen right out of graduation to work all over the world.

These guys, clearly dropped out during first day's orientation.

My fucking sides

I know that feeling. Have you considered taking up sucking dick as a nice little hobby?

It looks like that shitty stained glass filter in photoshop.

its streaming to your computer, it's not on hardware.

Err … any chance you got a source on these or an archive of them some where?

they've been saying it'll be used in video games for at least 5 years and the best demo they came up with looks like an indie game on the 360. of course they backtracked on the video game thing when people pressed them, and now they're bringing it back and acting like it's a totally new idea. it's not, they just diverted the issue until now.

does the technology actually work? who fucking knows. but the things they claimed, with that fucking dude with the cool propaganda voice, havent come to fruition.

they said that the file sizes would be small enough to stream over the internet in full detail, on the fly; as you can see, that was a total lie.

they said that framerates wouldnt be an issue, even on a toaster. as you can see from
that's not the case either.

all that's been shown are demos that for all we know couldve been prerendered, and this web demo which isnt anywhere near as impressive as what they claimed. the only thing that's even slightly interesting is the vr place they worked on in aus that supposedly uses their technology, but once again it looks like a shitty 360 indie game.

On these ones I was never was able to find source on them sadly.

Then this demo proves nothing about their technology, you retarded fucking shill. Go get a transfer to a new product to shill because this is 100% apparent that it's a scam. You're promoting a shitty, non-functional, smaller scale version of google earth street view at this point.

soundcloud.com/memeless/disturbed-vip-session-rare-unreleased

kill yourself lad

they were working on geoverse, which is a billion dollar industry, of course they are going to do the easiest thing first.

they never claimed to be a gaming company, they are a software company and claimed their engine can be used for video games and they are currently working on the game engine.

in that video you are talking about it claims it will adjust its pixelation until it fully loads on your computer because internet speed.
geoverse software is not on your computer, it is a web based streaming onto your computer. so you dont have the software to decode the data on your computer on the fly. its smooth on my computer.

thats not framerate, thats the point clouds. the laser scanner can only take images of what it see's that video he took was of land from a drone. it cant take detailed scans from under objects looking up. also the water is irrelivent data so its not detailed. in geoverse industry they dont care about the water, they care about land detail and objects on the land.
geoverse is not a game engine, it is a tool similar to google earth but using laser scanned objects and point cloud data or voxels.

how is it pre-renderd when its being shown on your computer.

No cute traps or transgals in my area I would like to suck off. Or if there are I ain't seen em.

Then post a screenshot of it or better yet, record a webm.

What if all the girls around you are actually traps that are so cute and passable that you can't tell that they're not girls?

any chance you have rar or such of these you would be willing to share?

bumpmapping is better than voxels, less resource intensive, not having to constantly flush out memory every two seconds

read
codersnotes.com/notes/euclideon-explained/

just buy a ps4 lmao

Bumpmapping is a texture mapping technique
Do you even know what you are talking about?

no

because you think people actually play or make games

My trap collection isn't all that big. I got it all off >>>/cuteboys/ so have a look around there my friend.

This is some pretty shit tech. Scam confirmed.

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how awful

Wow that foliage looks great.

THEY

LITERALLY

DID

THOUGH

They are lying through their teeth calling it a point cloud based rendering system. Too bad they are living off of government grants or that would be a top tier lawsuit to go through.

Point clouds and voxels aren't interchangeable you shill

Man this thread is a jokeSomeone screencap this shit. It's a textbook example of shilling right here.

they are all voxel based.

Hue Hue my shadow is a shill meme

Shit OP you're hilarious

They weren't lying about this being German data.

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top cuck

how can you say it doesn't exist when im showing you the proof and other people are fucking using a demo on the web.

Holy shit, OP, you should learn to admit defeat.

When one person is stuck to an idea so hard he tends to not listen to facts.

The technology is that it doesn't place any strain on your computer system.

You yourself said it's just a stream and it's not running off your system

This demo of yours doesn't prove anything, by your own words you admit that, you utter retard, you utter drop out of marketing, you abominable excuse for a shill.

what the shit are you talking about, this isn't some game i'm playing where i admit defeat or not based on your shit accusations.

the evidence is there, and if you dont want to believe it fine by me, I couldn't give a shit. it only makes you look like a fool later on.

yes You.

4chan pirated geoverse and it proved the things they claim, the web one is streaming the data so it's not as good.

4chandata.org/3/-3--decides-a789853

it's not my demo.

Right, ignore everything else. That'll convince people.

You fucking idiot. Look, let me sum this shit up for you: Let's assume, for a second, that at least some of your claims are true and that with some development, they can actually make something that doesn't look like dog vomit. But even then, as you yourself fucking admitted here it FUCKING STREAMS LARGE AMOUNT OF DATA TO MY COMPUTER. Are you fucking inbred that you can't see how that might be a problem? That I'd need to get 4GB streamed for a tiny-ass "level" of just one building, that's in very low-res to boot?

the fact you even picked up on that and thought it was appropriate to write a whole other reply to clarify that you dont work for the company, makes me absolutely 100% certain you're in marketing and a paid shill.

there is this thing called Compression, i dont know if you understand what that means or not.

they are not even showing the full data, this is a scaled version of the full scene.

ok, im a shill. Hue Hue look guis he's a shill he admit it hue hue hue

Yeah and compression is a technology, not fucking magic.

I'm not the one being told by people numerous times that the "product" I'm shilling doesn't work and is a scam. :^)

Maybe go back to 4chan. The kids there might like the shit you're selling.

Now you get it.

You know why? Because they're not fooling anyone.

That its a scam and has been from day 1?

So what's the practical application of this?

Getting grant money from the kangaroo government

Tell you what OP, if you're so inclined to prove us wrong then go invest you money into their company and slowly watch it vanish as you realise they're a massive scam.

this isnt euclidean but it's a point cloud viewer, something similar.

potree.org/wp/demo/

Are they trying to sell this?

Homosexuals are mentally ill. Also rule 3 you fucking degenerate.

Also this one works for me, the one from the op doesn't.

It's already a product.

To sell something it needs a practical purpose.
They just showcase their scams to get more grant money out of the government.

Can you explain in layman's terms why would I want a 3D map built out of flat color circles?

I mean they have to come with application to even try to sell their shit. How is it better than traditional 3D graphics in any way?

Its not

You want him to give money to himself?

They're already got 2 million out of the ausfag gubbermint, but I guess that got spent in the last 6 years.

Geoverse is just showcasing the euclidean engine. its not for games. Euclideon is working on a games engine which is the exciting part. from geoverse you can see how euclidean engine would work for games, but not exactly the same.

the point of all this is that game designers in the future will not have to worry about creating a new graphics engine every year, all games will look advanced but have their own unique artstyle based on the artist and modelers.

they can focus on gameplay and story.

Hah, that's somewhat like a go fuck himself. No, giving him the benefit of a doubt that he isn't a shill, but a very autistic fan.

Bull-fucking-shit.
This will not be the end all solution to game engines. You talk like a PR rep. How about you actually prove this shit Chris Robberts?

How about you fucking shut the fuck up and get lost you cocksucker, not everyone is a fucking shill you autistic trash.

No.

But you are.

Actually yeah, so what if maps are built out of circles instead of polygons, how does it remove the necessity to actually design shit?

you can convert polygons into point cloud.

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How does it make
a thing though?

You dont seem to understand what i mean by that.

watch this video, there is a point where it kind of explains this.

point cloud system ADVANCED TECH will automatically scale point cloud system based on atom density into the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of atoms per millimeter providing INFINITE DETAIL at UNLIMITED PROCESSING POWER thus making it possible for video games to run in a virtually UNLIMITED WORLD with no need for processing or even design

game point cloud tech could make a game out of billions or even TRILLIONS of atoms per millimieter with no additional input making computers obsolete

think about this: normally polygon system take processing power because they're flat shapes, but advanced point cloud tech makes THOUSANDS of times the detail of obsolete polygon system in a picosecond WITHOUT ANY PROCESSING AT ALL

in point cloud tech games can ve INFINITE WITH NO DESIGN and you wil NOT EVEN NEED A COMPUTER TO RUN THEM

this is the future

ARE YOU PART OF THE FUTURE

what do you mean you do not need computers to run them.

I'm not watching a fucking video. Can you explain how does this techs removes the need to design locations?

They already don't
Have you been living in the 90s?

THEY DON'T HAVE TO CREATE A NEW ENGINE TO UTILIZE MORE ADVANCED SHADING AND USE MORE POLYGONS.

like i said you dont understand what i meant by creating a new graphics engine.

what the shit are you talking about, they have been doing it for years.

yeah its not like Bethesda's used the same engine for the last 16 years or anything.

advanced tech point cloud system is NOT PROCESSING

processing is obsolete technology of dinosaur computer with no atoms while advanced point cloud tech has BILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF ATOMS making processing unneccessary

today companies spend millions of dollars with polygon flat shape design but it's made obsolete with point cloud system that generates INFINITE DETAIL

no processing = NOT EVEN A COMPUTER IS NEEDED

point clooud atom detail scaling is done all by advanced point cloud tech without need of computer graphics

Do you know a single thing about game development?
You realize we live in an age where engines have become very modular and custom engines are practically unheard of?
The latest engine that was made just for a game was Fox Engine and even that does nothing that UE4 can't do.

They don't need to create a new engine to make get more advanced shading and more polygons. They make an engine and us it for 5-10 years, modifying as need to get extra performance out of it if required.

Are you retarded? You really think we don't know how video games are made? Do you think we're the same fools you pitch your bollocks to on youtube? How are you still shilling this? It's clear you've failed hard and miserably.

This is because the core APIs are being updated. Few years ago updates to OpenGL and Direct X were unheard of, now they've all gotten off their asses again making life easier for engine devs. Vulkan will eventually replace OpenGL and I suspect may even kill Direct X meaning every engine will probably offer the exact same features at least from a rendering standpoint.

Has this anything to do with the old games that had characters made of voxel particles?

no. not really.
just post more pictures of Outcast and those old Voxel flight sims.

thats the point, dont you understand what people are talking about? step back for a second and calm the fuck down, you are getting real assblasted.

UE4 requires thousands of hours on advancing its graphics engine. UE5 in the future will be more advanced and look better than UE4. that's the point. no more of this upgrading every few years since its going to be unlimited detail.

I recommend watching this video, it's good information.

I dont know but its voxel based so it's kind of similar.

Its literally voxels complete with all the technical limitations of it.

Not going to fool me again, faggot. That's a woman with a strap on.

UE4 is 18 years old.

Are you genuinely retarded or just a huckster?
Whatever this unlimited detail shit is will require its own engine and with the ever improving technology it will need upgrading every few years to keep up.
UE4 didn't get created just for "more polygons" it has better lighting support, more modularity and supports the latest libraries and rendering techniques.
Your "unlimited details" shit can't even support lighting
The video you linked is a fucking insult to anyone with basic knowledge about both game development and graphical rendering and your posts are disgusting deceit with no substance.

both of you have no clue what you are talking about and are only talking shit about things you cant understand.

then enlighten us o supreme faggotini

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We can too understand that you're a cuck who has been proven wrong at every point in this thread.

They must pay you poorly to shill this badly.

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OP is a fag who doesn't realize that there are far better voxel engines out there.

enlighten what oh sloppy and unkempt neckbeard? anything i say you ignore.

yeah when you belittle everything i say, and make up bullshit and not understand a damn thing im talking about its easy to think you've proven anything wrong like the betacuck you are.

that's just the web version.

user that's not the same.

How about you say something that is actually correct for a change then?

projection at its finest

No, anything you say is bollocks and is laughed at. That's the opposite of ignored.

Maybe get the hint and go shill on reddit or 4chan instead. We aren't going to fall for your shit no matter how much you play the victim.

so what, you want me to bullshit and agree with your stupid theories? how about fuck off.

the the same thing you fuck, and if anyone needs to leave its you. ive been on Holla Forums 2 years before you fuckstains came from 4chan.

fucking hell lad, are you trying to compete with a theater projector?

Keep crying, shill.

seriously what the fuck is wrong with you?
i'm trying to wrap my head around this.

I post information about euclidean, and you claim it's fake and false.

the I post proof that's it's real, you claim it's fake and false.

someone asks what is the purpose.

I post some information about why it would be useful.

You claim it is fake and false.

you see anything i say, you completely shut down and ignore as if it were false. this is the problem you dont seem to understand around your tiny brain.

You are the one who is creation fabrication out of anecdotal evidence.

learn to read cocksucker, next time you reply you better understand what the hell you are replying too.

You haven't posted a single piece of information you fuck face.
All you have done is peddle buzzwords and whenever someone asks you to explain them you clam up.

where, show me one of my post. go ahead.

i thought the point of things like this was for 3d design or 3d printing, you take an ultra high quality 3d rendered STILL environment for visualization

not video games

Here you don't explain what >10959486 asked and then the same user asks and you don't reply to it either.
Its not like you can't see the user either as he has 18 posts in the thread and you even replied to many of his later ones.

Laser scanning are typically used for 3D printers, but it has other applications.

Sounds legit.

Zbrush Summit had Naughty Dog showing how they use Polygon scanners to create their art. Its really awesome, really useful but costs $17k for the device.

what the shit do you think i am some kind of know it all about euclidean? I dont work for euclideon, i was only posting this thread about the web interface because it's new information euclidian and we can test it out.

I thought it was obvious, typical games you see objects like trees are made of flat polygons so they dont look detailed. even in an amazing looking game of star wars battlefront, those objects and tree's are flat polygons.

bumpmapping is an illusion created by computers to simulate depth in flath 2d textures. they dont work with VR since you are using 2 cameras or 2 eyes to view the texture so the world looks flat and fake.

using Euclidian you can convert polygon tree's by giving them more detail and have games that have Euclideon level tree's and objects.

this type of engine would bring back hand modeled 3d objects made from clay which has more detail than 3d models from software like Maya and Blender and laser scan them into 3d objects which can be animated.

3D coat can already do this.

Zbrush can already do this. 3D Coat can already do this.

You are completely full of shit.

There's already technology in development that has already been shown using 3D displacement.
So again this arguement is not currently valid, Polygon engines are slowly moving towards the possibility of introducing complex displacement using Tessellation to make it dynamic. The texture information can also be streamed in incredibly efficient using Octree mipmapping.

Basically you're completely lying out your ass and trying to sell us something we can already do with existing tech.

shill t.

zbrush is not as detailed as clay and hand made models.

Tessellation is costly and not worth it, what came out of tessellation since its inception, some geometry increase in things like rocks, that's it.

You can laser scan objects and import them to zbrush but you will never use those objects in a video game. the level of detail is too extreme and will never happen.that is where Euclideon is so exciting.

Tessellation can be used for Dynamic Displacement. Lot of people don't actually know this. Its great if you want to add to your game the ability to manipulate polygon terrain at runtime.. something that is usually attributed (incorrectly I might add) as an exclusive advantage for Voxels.

And how exactly does it take that extreme detail and make it riggable. The method Naughty dog used was take the scan data, retopo so its animate geo friendly, weigh it correctly and then animate. None of the animation pipeline has even been shown from Euclideon so we don't even know if it uses Bones or weight paints or what. But the animations that were shown looked janky like there was no IK solver.

But neither would a scan. And it would cost a shit tonne more. I know for a fact that even if your bullshit company actually gets this product out to game developers, barely any of them will be able to afford to do anything in it. Only AAAs have scanners at this point in time.

the video above is from euclideon, they state their animation is rigid right now but that they had to redevelop everything from the ground up.
one of their older videos it states they wanted you to be able to convert polygons straight into point cloud so i'm not going to explain their animation system because i dont have much information about it.

but look at this webm.

there is animation.

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fuck off you cunt

here's your problem, the bald dude is an unbearable faggot.

Get rid of him and his second coming of christ bullshit and maybe we might stop being so hostile and start seeing your little tech demo as an alternative to polygons as opposed to a full blown replacement.

Your marketing is hostile. You have no product to offer us the consumer, just empty promises. Of course people are going to be angry, of course people are going to call you out on your shit. Take it as a failure to market correctly. Act on it. Change the strategy. Failure to do so will have you guys coming off as dickheads. I tell you what every major studio in Australia right now mocks you guys because of how hostile you are. So naturally we're going to be hostile straight back to you.

Take that as constructive feedback. Act on it and stop being unbearable faggots. If you've got proof of your tech working, show it to us on our actual machines. Stop telling us, start delivering.

Nearly all the negativity you guys get is justified.

so he's autistic and has a funny way of talking. why say his technology is bullshit based on that alone.

Slow down, nigga.
So, what's the difference between this and voxels? Because all this seems pretty much like voxel technology.

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voxels are expensive and require a lot of processing power, which dont make it useful for large games.

euclideon is using voxels but they have a search algorithm that makes it usable.

in euclidean you only see what your monitor resolution is.

let's say your monitor is 1920x1080, in euclidean you will only see
2,073,600 atoms at any given time. so your framerate will not suffer and you can have unlimited detail and size of your world.

If you had a 1024x768 monitor you would only see
786,432 atoms.

in other voxel based engines, every voxel needs to be rendered or needs to be some trick applied so that you can use it.

To me who is planning to develop a "voxel" based game this technology seem just like it store a lot of *useless data* which is never gonna be used in a game.

Working example of good use of voxels is 7 Days to Die with its modifiable terrain.

Also no real immediate benefit switching from polygons to their special snowflake point clouds.

Fuck off you dumb piece of shit

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So it's basically just voxels with some rendering tricks?
Doesn't seem that amazing.

The wikipedia page for Galileo gambit should just redirect to these guys.

because he's doing the EXACT same bullshit that Sean Murray just pulled with No Mans Sky and is doing it way more hostile. His tone is mocking people that use polygon renderers stating their art is bad and low quality. No one is going to respect someone that acts like that. You don't sell products by insulting the consumer you're trying to target. They did that with the your trees look like shit claim.

Lot of developers work hard to produce games, they spend years training and perfecting their skills. You can't come along and say LOOK THESE MAGIC VOXELS MAKE YOUR WORK LOOK LIKE SHIT without someone taking offence to it.

Its really bad marketing and tells us nothing about the product. In the end there is no product. We're being sold hype not an actual tool that we can use. And we're being insulted for using polygon methods.

I wouldn't work with a company that treats its consumers like this. Its a really shit thing to do. You don't see Autodesk coming out and saying EVERYONE THAT USES PHOTOSHOP IS AN IDIOT, but these guys are and that's why you're getting the hate you get.

Looks like shit, the animated niggers are all fucking jerky even a PS1 animation was more smooth. The speaker sounds like a faggot.

Go fuck yourself I am getting tired of having to hear your pop-up bullshit drivel several times a year just to see it's fucking nuffin and you and your homo ass company living off from the gibs of Aussie gubermint.

Fuck off already and never come back you pathetic shill. I would try to act more nice to you but you won't let me you drained all my patience I had previously.

it's amazing in the sense that you can have unlimited detail, that is where the "unlimited power" comes from.

our real world is made out of atoms, just like the engine euclideon is making. if they ever made a matrix like world it would need to use a more advanced version of euclideon's software with more advanced version of vr hardware.

no, that's just you taking it like that, he never was condescending or mocking anyone using polygons, he just realizes that voxels is more advanced and is really excited and wants the industry to move over to voxels.

it's like someone who is too excited and wants to help you, but you take that excitement as they want to take advantage of you. some people just can't wrap their minds around the fact that sometimes people actually just want to help you.

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if your tired cocksucker than get out of the thread, no one is putting a gun to your head and telling you to stay.

embed related.

Go fuck yourself with a shovel you cunt

Get out.

Fuck you leatherman

Everyone is telling you to fuck off. Take then hint, you retarded shill. I hope your Eucuckidean bosses see your shitty and failed attempt at damage control and refuse to pay you. You filthy nigger.

What they mean by unlimited power is that, no matter the amount of data being displayed, the framerate is constant, even my toaster can run their demo at 60 fps on a browser. Whatever you are looking at 100 or 10000 houses it makes no difference to the fps

The issue is how the data is being loaded and generated. Unless it's procedural, their dreams are impossible. They would need some sort of conversion from polygon to (some 3D equivalent of vector graphics).

Then it becomes possible

en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Galileo_Gambit&redirect=no

Fuck you.

it's my thread idiot, do you go into other people's homes and yell at them to get out of their own homes?

Why is everyone trying to attempt to argue with a bitchy retarded faggot? Leave the degenerate alone, he feeds off you.

praise kek. Gods work son.

If he acts like a dumb nigger like you then that user has the right do so. You fucking piece of shit.

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the only dumb nigger in this thread is you and him coon man.

yo're either a masochist or an idiot. who is putting a gun to your head and telling you to stay in this thread. if you don't like it get the fuck out. it's like flies on shit.

If they're being so loudly retarded that I can hear them in the street, yes, yes I fucking do.

IT WORKS
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_gambit

I need more smug/laughing girls reaction images. Let's rev this shit up.

Go fuck yourself faggot.

I actually have a theory on how to do this. At this stage I only have the concept of downsampling Vectors onto Texels. Makes them look blurry but allows you to put the texture onto 8k or even higher though no engine supports it yet, texture maps. Basically you'd have to eliminate texels entirely.. how you did that.. well I think you'd have to create a replacement for Anistrophic Filtering and instead build a method that can interpret vector curves. It'd be really complicated. But I would LOVE to see it done one day.

Go fuck yourself faggot.

Are you that desperate for those 5 cents per post you faggot shill

Call me a fag if I'm wrong (or for lulz whatever)
But didn't assassins creed 3 use tesselation for its snow?

Wasn't great, but it was still cool

I'd like to see vector photography done in the future.

Are you that desperate for those 5 cents per post you faggot shill

cunt

btw I'll add this is just for textures. But its a way you could do infinite detail on a texture map.

Geo is another thing all together. I don't know how you'd resolve it beyond throw in more VRam and Cuda cores.

this random anonymous user has explained the new point cloud technology in a way I understand and agree with. other anonymous users should pay attention to this

point could technology creates infinite detail within a single atom cluster per millimiter

infinite detail at no processing power means game engines will not need updates ever again. infinite point cloud tech is the definitive solution for game development

ignorant buffoons use flat shapes to make vomit inducing 3d models. 3d is depth and made of atoms in real life, using flat polygons for 3d is retarded and results in ugly dinosaur 3d like the trash games of today that look like garbage for rejecting revolutionary point could technogy

real life is made of atoms and polygons have no atoms but point cloud has 18 quintillion atoms per millimeter making all the retarded polygons obsolete

those who reject revolutionary point cloud engine are troglodytes who think making butt ugly flat shapes is acceptable. they are being scammed by graphics card manufacturers who make graphics without atoms

how many atoms do your graphics have? infinite point cloud technology has an unlimited number of atoms for infinite detail, you can't beat that you with your pig disgusting troglodyte flat shapes

Doing a bang-up job, m80. I'm sold on Euclidean's Aussie Shitposting technology. Where can I invest and what would it cost to send you to cuckchan?

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Get the fuck out you piece of shit.

correct.

There is absolutely no proof there that that isn't just a shitty model with a bumpmap besides that annoying faggot saying so.

WHERE IS THE PROOF YOU FUCKING SHILL

Slight samefag here, but I made a post and I'm making another while I'm reading the thread.

Take notice, OP you shill faggot

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Fuck off Sean Murray.

go back

I can't prove it's not euclidean, we'll just have to wait.

Get the fuck out you piece of shit.

you really are retarded

This is now a shitposting thread. Commence posting Bronie Porn and Traps.

I dont know, i haven't paid attention to assassin's creed since 2.

Get the fuck out you piece of shit.

Can't we just have non-homo porn for once. Just for once

nigger faggot cunt jew

I see we already had traps.. I regret clicking on those.

It's interesting how the shills go full damage control and misdirecting as soon as a Euclidean thread pops up

There are about 5 people actually discussing the topic, (((everyone else))) is just shitposting=

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I remember when people liking traps was just a meme back on cuckchan in the old days

Such innocent times

you faggot

basic photogrammetry is better than this shit

but those aren't for games.

everything's a game if you use your imagination!

Yay Autism!

Neither are scams.

What's that about you being a faggot?

blowing balls ass willies

Look at the OP. This thread was started at around 3am US Time.. Which would be around 7 or 8am aussie time. Euclidean is an Aussie company.

I'm willing to bet that our dedicated shitposter OP is actually one of Euclidean's employees trying to stir up hype for their bogus technology.

my mistake, this looks amazing but it's still polygons. and requires a lot of processing power.

you need to get that tourettes medicated.

I'm also Australian. Late night shitposting for the win. Just proving we're not all unbearable faggots.

We do love a good shitpost though.

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Ah yes, their plan is coming together.

Failing really hard at that then is he.

OP suck cocks.

What more is there to say, the shill got absolutely BTFO.

May as well just shitpost.

Pic related

Isn't it just a way of getting textures onto objects using scanning? I know at least UE4 supports that shit. Why wouldn't it be for games?

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Go die in a oven you fucking kike

photogrammetry produces butt ugly polygons with finite detail like the heap of garbage polygon graphics of the vanishing of ethan carter. it looks retarded and ugly because its all flat shapes trying to trick your eyes

point cloud would make the vanishing of ethan carter look like a respectable game with atoms instead of the puke it looks like now because it would have infinite detail that lets you see individual grains of dirt and blades of grass

fuck you I read Elucid2D and I thought the gooks finally released the software.

Goddamnit.

Over a quarter of the posts in this thread, well done.

They have proven that they can read and render unlimited amounts of points(atoms) from point clouds at stable FPS on shitty computers.

What they have failed to prove is that they can generate/animate such point clouds on shitty hardware at the detail levels they promise and without using 50 giga of ram.

If they can do the second point, (and some sort of 3D vector graphics tech could pull this off), then they can do what they proposed.

We should be discussing whenever or not the second point is possible, but then, I might be asking too much attention span from Holla Forums

a Quarter of them was shit posting so its more like Half.

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You don't have to beg user, sure I'll squeeze into your hot little "oven." You're really eager aren't you?

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They haven't proven shit. Their tech is useless to the mass market and has no applicability in anything but minor novelties and flawed tech demos, at the very best.

The reason no one is discussing this shit is because even the more retarded Holla Forums poster can see right through these bullshit claims.

They're a company that exists solely to put our videos making bold, vague claims so investors and other idiots who are trying to find "THE NEXT BIG THING" will throw money at them so they can stay employed for another year.

100% certain these two are the same person or work at Euclideon.

A little over 1/4th of the posts in this thread are OP in damage control mode. Just in case you didn't notice.

how comes it's being used for geospatial industry and even the medical industry.

how do you explain this product they released if it's just to make videos and scam grant money and kickstarters.

Reminder retards backed this shit.

Maybe it's the same shit as what happens with the scam citizen cucks or yandere dev's tumblrites that paid for an unfinished product and think that the only way it's going to get delivered is by advertising the fuck out of it.

damage control =/= replying to idiots

Are you implying they did not?
Look at the web demo, check the framerate, no matter how much it loads, how much more detail it adds, the framerate is constant, even on shitty computers.

They have proven that they can render point clouds at a constant rate and very fast.

They still need to prove they can make point clouds that can be used for games

They have proven what I said above
Yes it is, unless they can make point clouds for games in runtime. Which although isn't impossible, they didn't show any proof that they can do that.

yes, op is a retard, he should ask his boss for proof that they an make a 'usable-for-games-point-cloud' in runtime

Can't prove it's not polygons, nor that it's runtime and not pre-rendered, unless this is running on my machine, I won't believe those videos like I believe in the web demo rendering point clouds at constant frame rate

Name one company using this technology in any meaningful way.

I'll wait.

Holy fuck aussies this is embarassing

Can't you guys pull out their internet hardlines and save us from this shitposting shill?

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You should stop posting, all you have managed to do is hurting the company credibility.
Come back when your boss release some web demo that shows animated shit, or procedural point clouds that are meaningful in any way rather than the same model being repeated 1000000x times

youtube.com/user/Aerometrex

Tax Write Off

I wouldn't call that a "Product" its just a viewer.

That's a fast reply… did you keep this link in your bookmarks? Care to remind me how non-related to this company you are again?
I'm gonna save this thread for future generations, it's hilarious

Really revolutionary stuff there. Youtube channels with less than 1k subs really are titans in the medical and geospatial industry, m8.

The speed of your reply also raises some eyebrows, considering they don't appear to mention Euclidean at all. Instead, they are advertising some kind of camera system of their own design.

But nice try.

How can you make shit up and believe it to be true.

keep posting the same thing over and over. That'll help.

this is subtle bait, like a fine wine

To be fair, I've seen that company's shit get posted before the last time MUH INFINITE DETAIL got posted. I'm guessing they're using the engine to render the data their cameras capture.

I'll wait.

HUR DUR YOU POSTED THAT FAST!
HUR DUR 1 SMALL COMPANY! DOES NOT PROVE ANYTHING!!!!== ==REALLY REVOLUTIONALRY!! TELL YOUR BOSS TO PAY YOU MORE HUR DUR!!!

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You're worse than the shill.

Oh, I wouldn't put it past a company that specializes in 3d mapping to buy software and other technologies that they might be able to use, but this isn't the same thing as purely using Euclidean's shit software.

>meaningful

You're a goddamned embarrassment, m8.

This is a videogames board you mongoloid

Stop posting until your boss releases a demo showing animation or generating the point cloud on our machines, until you can prove your boss' tech can do that, it is useless for videogames.

I don't care if the medical industry can use that or not, this is a videogames board, come back when you can show and run videogames on our machines with it

what do you mean meaningful, that is subjective. does it have to cure cancer to be meaningful in your eyes?

oh so you think nobody is using this technology. well what if i told you that there is a little company using this, you might have heard of it, it's called australia

what now?

and its a video game related engine you autistic shit.

Wasn't my question and never said "it doesn't count", just pointed out it only took 90 seconds to answer with a video were the project isn't even referenced.

Meh. I'll live with it.

It's not the fast reply, it's the unusually specific and unusual example that they used.

Like, if I asked you, normal user who has no knowledge whatsoever of Euclidean's business practices or partners, to produce an example of someone using their technology, would you be able to produce one in under 2 minutes?

not until you can prove you can animate and generate meaningful point clouds in real time

and prove it by making a demo that run on our machines, rather than a video that could be faked

Oh no, someone has an answer you didn't think of. God forbid they know more than you.

embed related.

I'd ask you to prove how Euclidean's ridiculously impossible technology is being applied and used across an entire country without any kind of meaningful, concrete proof of their claims of "INFINITE RENDERING" and other such bullshit.

i posted tons of proof, just go and look in the thread, since i know you won't i'll just direct you here.

those videos can be faked, it's nor proof like the web demo is.

the web demo only proves you can render point clouds in real time at stable fps, it does not prove you faggots can animate or generate point clouds in real time.

videos are not proof, web demos are

it doesn't prove that point clouds can produce "infinite detail" as the demos all look like shit on our end.

Aerometrex has been posting youtube videos using euclidean tech for like 4 years now.

when euclideon was announced i looked all over for any more information, after 1 year this company was found to be using euclideon geoverse tool for their 3d scans.

lol you don't even realize that australia is made of atoms

your so dumb kid

OMFG EVERYONE IS MADE OF ATOMS!
AM I EVEN REAL OR JUST A LIE CREATED BY SOME MARKETING SHILL FOR EUCLIDEON!
AHHH!

I'd love to be able to download the fucking file and THEN use the webdemo to render it.

Even if it looks like shit, my computer is so old that I believe that their system is very scalable.

I dont know why they would fake it.

if you live in australia you can visit holoverse.

holoverse.com.au/

well I get close to the minor details and they look all muddy. So its a very bad proof of concept. I just don't think that extra detail is there and that the scanners were a limiting factor.

But that involves going to Queensland. No one is going to go to Queensland. That place is a shit hole.

That got me thinking

What kind of proof they have that the holoverse is not using polygons?

I could probably get convinced if I saw it for myself, but right now I can't

Notice how none of them prove that they are running on anything more complex than Unity? Notice how their claims of unlimited detail have produced games that look like they could have been made 15 years ago?

Keep the goalposts where they started: They declared they can do infinite detail without requiring high end computing power, specifically for video games.. and yet, they can't provide a video of a benchmark test, or a demo that people can play, or some kind of engine.. or much of anything but these youtube videos that recycle the same few minutes of footage over and over and over.

And you just happened to be following them… just because? This is a company that no one would have any reason to know unless they are directly doing business with them, and you just happen to be the one guy on Holla Forums who has known for 4 years that they are working with Euclidean.. in the thread where you have been aggressively defending Euclidean for the better part of… 6 hours.

Fascinating series of coincidences you're trying to sell us, m8.

Illuminati Confirmed.

How much are they paying you for this bait and switch? You respond and he bumps. Fascinating stuff.

Says the user running damage control for OP and his terrible thread.

I have shares in salt mining so this thread is making me very rich when it gets bumped.

Gotta get them Shekels Goyim. Put em in the Bank Goyim we'll take good care of them Goyim.

t. Euclidean

the level of detail is too immense for unity or any other engine.

I kept an eye on them because it was interesting. and they showed off euclideon in one of their videos.

Not laughing now are you, trolls.

Holy shit here we go–
CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME THE RUN DOWN OF THIS SHIT?
I think this is some kind of graphic thing which is supposed to render even on low-level computers but ends up looking like shit anyways?

It is in tl;dr just a very fancy way of rendering like in old Build engine games like Duke Nukem 3D and Shadow Warrior. Like you cast a ray from every pixel in the screen and then pick the color it "hits" from the point.

no, it looks amazing not like shit.

the artist are responsible for how the game looks.

they promised this
and gave us this

and the aussies are fucking retarded and paid them millions for it

beating the dead horse.
It's clear that the tech can quickly render STATIC point clouds.

I am still waiting for the webdemo that shows animated runtime point clouds on MY MACHINE and not some video

They can render point clouds very very fast, but still fail to prove they can generate animated point clouds that would be required for videogames, there is no proof that the holoverse is not using polygons

no, they promised that and they gave that.

This is streaming the data to your computer and does not have the full data. the full data is like 40Gb but they compress it to 4gb.

since the geoverse software is not on your computer and must be streamed using chrome, it ends up looking like shit.

4chan pirated a copy of geoverse and found it could load 10gb data in seconds and delivered what they promised.

if you can visit them why not ask.

Correction:
"I do not want to show any high-quality footage because it would slow down everything and disprove that even toasters can run it"

By the way, pic related.

And where is that copy faggot?

Now run that in real time on a low end PC, or even a console for that matter.

The main argument behind Euclideon is:
Evil polygon bullies are being mean to us because they know our revolutionary technology will change the world. They're so mean and won't just believe us, so you can just trust that we are right.

I live in hueland, too far from it, not to mention:
If I were to ask, the answer would be 'we are not using polygoys, but 6 million atoms' regardless of it being true or not, it's useless.

And this is why this technology is shit. I think Call of Duty games will stick to using polygons for a very long time. They got enough AAA bloat already.

Polygons ain't broken so entertainment juggernauts will stick to them unless Euclidean do something completely mind blowing.

If they manage to make the data more manageable for entire scenes in the 100 Mb range i guess it would be not seen as snake oil.

a new technology comes around and claims it can make everything better in terms of graphics. and what do you do? mock it rather than celebrate their dream and wish one day it becomes reality.

people like you need to be shot.

why would you assume that even if they told you its not polygons that it must be polygons.

illuminati confirmed they are all lying to us!

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Because you should always assume someone is lying to you if they can profit heavily from such lie.

Only hard proof should convince you otherwise.

modern games are like 50gb, i didn't say that the game would be that large, i said the point cloud data is that large, it is compressed to about 4gb.

No I totally agree. These brilliant innovators are being oppressed by the ancient fossil tyrants that just want to be evil and keep the little guy down.

you are a scam artist shill for polygon graphics manufacturers

they know their trash polygons are obsolete and fear the revolution of point cloud technology because it needs no expensive graphics card so they send their shill trolls to mock the revolution

your dinosaur butt ugly polygons are over shill. polygons have zero atoms, point cloud has infinite atoms, can you count? because the future belongs to euclideon… if you can count

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Agh, my ruse has been revealed! Damn your brilliant, forward thinking mind and shining future technology! Polygons will once more rule the Earth with an iron fist and suppress innovation, you just wait!

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and in that time we the polygon game artists of the world will rule as kings and subjugate the inferior voxel peasant race.

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You know what mister shill?
Ask this from your boss:

Make a web demo where you can upload a [animated atom model] file and then render the model animating in real time with the atom tech.
Also, a video showing how to make a [animated atom model] file.
Replace [animated atom model] with whatever you faggots call the equivalent to .fbx/obj files that your engine reads.

Basically, an animated model viewer on euclideon's engine, that will get me convinced it can be used for videogames.

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whatever user archived this three hours ago, you done fucked up. you erased three hours of beautiful shitposting from history.

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why dont you send ucludeion a message and tell them this. because im not a shill and i dont work for euclidean.

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I sorta wish it still had the nation flags so we could tell if OP was Australian.

kimototech.com/index.html
mngsurvey.com.au/
aerometrex.com.au/
survey.crkennedy.com.au/
schmap.com.au/
uss3d.com.au/
meixnerimaging.com/
merrick.com/Geospatial/Software-Products/Euclideon
opussw.com/
mena3d.com/

They either use or sell Euclideon Geoverse.

i think my inferior eyes can't deal with the billions of atoms, and that's why it looks like shit

its my thread,and im browsing other threads.

he can't be from anywhere else

Why don't you shit up some other website like Reddit or Sheeky Forums? You'll have far more luck pushing your subpar voxel engine on the gullible retards there.

And they wonder why no one wants to use their tech. It's fucking shit.

People were doing more impressive photogrammetry by hacking kinects.

You can request a demo here, but im not sure if they'll grant you one.

meixnerimaging.com/customer-area/

or you could try and find pirated version.

or you could stop being a faggot and link it if you have it. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist.

your eyes are ruined by gross polygon tech

ophthalmologists pay millions of dollars to the polygon cabal to ruin your eyes for profit and make you unable to see the disgusting trash of polygon graphics. in turn polygon graphics industry doesn't have to worry about people not needing overpowered graphics cards for repugnant inefficient polygon graphics

euclideon can repair eye damage so you can see infinite detail within atom clusters at 4k. hell, resolution won't mean anything anymore because the detail itself will be infinite

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embed related.

A horse walks into a bar and… wait. Like Glaze3D? Announced in 1999, the allegedly better than everything else on the market graphic accelerator was supposed to handle tons of hot features… and it never got released. But ho boy, did these screenshots look amazing at the time.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaze3D#/media/File:Glaze3dwest1.jpg

Remember Project Offset from 2005? They released a video people automatically assumed it was pre-rendered. The devs claimed their engine was going to slaughter the Unreal Engine 3. And of course the game got delayed several times, and of course another big name in the industry (Intel) bought them, and finally the game (and subsequently the engine) never got released.
web.archive.org/web/20050614235129/http://www.projectoffset.com/technology.html

What about Ageia? Back in 2006, they claimed "in the future" you'd need a new hardware piece for every little thing that needs to be computed in games (from AI to… whatever). So they created their own PPU (a card dedicated to physics). Even though since day one their plan was to generate hype and get bought by another GPU manufacturer giant (they got acquired by Nvidia), at least they had the decency to come up with a playable game to show off (Cellfactor: Combat Training).

I wonder why people are being careful with Euclideon's too-good-to-be-true promises. And these examples are only about graphic technologies: there's plenty of high-tech companies out there promising incredible things (and failing hard to deliver anything).

your posts are the best part of this thread, but they leave me wondering if Euclideon has a plan to handle Frankenstein Computer God or the Four Sided Timecube

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4 years ago
and he was never seen again.

I found the torrent, but im not going to post it.

Sure you did.

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that proves everything, how could I doubt you now?

its real, i dont care if you believe it or not.

HOW LONG WILL HE KEEP GOING?

until your death.

8ch isn't your home and you are not welcome here. We do not welcome filthy lipsmacking shitskins and their bullshit incensed voodoo in this neighborhood.

Holla Forums is not your home and YOU are not welcome here you inbred cocksucking degenerate filthy worm. this isn't your neighborhood faggot, now fuck off to your containment board.

And they thought I wouldn't do it!

You're just trying your hardest, aren't you?

why wouldn't you share it user? I can think of only 2 reasons
so which one?

i dont want to share it because
1-im not going to spoonfeed anyone
2-they can fuck themselves.

so both?

Oooo, nice use of the lingo. You've been yelled at before, haven't you?

keep it up, op. you've gone from the hilarious idiot phase to the nobody cares phase, but if you keep at it, maybe you can wrap around to being funny to laugh at again.

won't be no highscore but I like to see him try

You don't want to share it because it doesn't exist, or you're a shill working for them. Either ways you're a faggot.

And what would that be, friendo?

I know one is but they are very against having their dick sucked. And two others are girls.

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