So has Yo-Kai Watch bombed in the west?

So has Yo-Kai Watch bombed in the west?

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2016

Talk about flash in the pan.

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Let's take a series based on Japanese folklore and try to sell it to the West! What could possibly go wrong?

its the superior pokemon because its not pokemon
but you should be playing digimon you fucking retard

So whats the secret of companies like EA, Zenimax and Activision? When they try to market and shill garbage people line up to slurp the filth right out of their assholes.

But when Nintendo tries to do the same no one takes the bait.

I don't particularly care for Youkai Watch, but at least it gave us Kyuubi.

Delicious, delicious kyuubi

Koei has been doing that successfully for years.

3DS has reached market saturation and people tend to buy 1st party games and little else from Nintendo nowadays.

Bare in mind in the west we suffer from "Nintendo Tax' where a game comes out on Wii U or 3DS and it wont see a price drop for years if ever. I still see Ocarina of time for 3DS at £35 and it released at £40 years ago. Like Star Trek DVD's they keep their price for an insanely long time.

Apparently this is because Nintendo produces in smaller numbers and has "secret shoppers" that visit stores and if you mark down their stock too much then you get less in the future and that scares companies into keeping the prices high.

It probably doesnt help we live in an age where you can turn on your pc, ps4 or xbone and get a digital storefront going "Hey heres this game at like 80% off goyim!" and that makes the "we never drop the price below £30 unless its third party and not popular" 3DS titles look obscenely expensive and unappealing by comparison.

Look at any game on any none nintendo hardware and the game will go from £50 to £9.99 in like 3 months. For a Nintendo game that could take 15 years to happen if it ever does.

Why do you think they are desperate to suck the app stores dick now? they are putting out less games which are in turn selling less because Nintendo games are usually short and very expensive and they dont release many of them nowadays. I can't name another 1st party release from them till the NX other than Pokemon Sun and Moon. They are struggling and its their own fault for their anti consumer pulishing strategies.

Meanwhile western companies shit out far too many copies so the prices drop very fast and games become affordable and less of a 'risky investment for a potential stinker' every week after release.

Shame honestly. That means we might not see the third game in the US, and it looks pretty fun.

Yes. Western kids don't play games like this (generally preferring shooters, whatever meme game pewdiepie played, or minecraft) and the 20 somethings that play pokemon probably just keep their 3DS around as a pokemon machine at this point because of a lot of what said.

Basically Nintendo fucked over their 3rd party too much and this game really didn't have much of a chance here anyways.

Too bad as the first one was pretty good, the series had potential.

Thats what people were saying when they thought we wouldnt get the first in the west but then it came out and nobody bought it.

the problem is nintendo

i bet it would sell better on a vita

I did and I thought it was okay, but the third game looks way better in gameplay.Haven't tried the second one yet though.

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Assuming that the cartoon is just like the game My local comic book shop would play all sorts of shows and movies on their TV, including Yo-Kai Watch.

The problem is that Yo-Kai Watch appeals to young kids… only. The show and likely the game isn't bad, but there is no staying power no matter how much they try to market it. Pokemon can be enjoyed at all ages because it has that hook in one way or another, intentionally or not. In fact, I don't want to compare this game to pokemon, it's much closer of a feeling to the Megaman Network series. If it had MN's formula, then it would have done wonders.

But then we might not have shit like a cat that can turn anyone into an American.

I think it's more that it hinges more on puns and toilet humor at times.

That Steve Jaws and Mark Orcaburg joke was such a groaner

Have you ever actually seen the show?

The first game was okay. The show is pretty shit though.

Pokemon has a ton of porn of everything
Digimon has a decent amount of porn of popular digimon
Yokai Watch had a handful of sexy characters at best

t. furfag

At the very least Inazumer still appealed to Fujoshits and people even latently into soccer, who does this appeal to, in the West? Either rabid Level5 fans, very young kids (who will still buy pokèmon over knock offs) and maybe, MAYBE, those who already tried it in some shops or know about it from the internet. Otherwise no one really gives a shit, and the translation work means that purists won't get near it.

I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be but yeah, it's noticeable. I think it's because over saturation. Level 5 isn't a big company so they hopped on the "MAKE MONEY!" train too fast.

it's not too bad. there is far far far worse on tv right now. what is funny is how the show barely resembles the game at all much like pokemon.

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I don't believe that this happened. Provide evidence.

The problem was the people (mostly manchildren and nostalgiafags) who usually follow retarded newsblogs blogs like Rocketnews24 that fed them the idea that Yokai Watch was some sort of Zimmerman gunning after their precious Treyvon pokemartin just waiting to pull the trigger because


Yeah, tell that to shin megami tensei.

After reading shit like that they got butthurt and gave bad reviews all over the net even though the difference between both games is like day and night, it's not that the game became "more popular than pokemon" in japan, it's just that people in japan already forgot about pokemon before yokai came in, unlike in the west where people still cling to it from the lack of being advertised something better, the thing about something being "too japanese" is complicated because people weren't allergic to muh weebs'n'gooks when pokemon came out as they are now

I just fucking hate the designs. I have no idea how that cat-thing was supposed to be the next pikachu/agumon. Some designs just explode into popularity, like Danbo, and some just don't have that staying power.

And it's weird, cause I love Yokai, but this is one of the weakest representations of them. I didn't even know that's what they were supposed to be till I realized that's what the name meant.

being a ffxiv player ya fuck yokai watch
that event was balls deep fucking retarded.
the minions weren't so bad but holy shit the weapon token drop rate and the increasing amount you needed to get each time was fucking terrible I gave up after 3 weapons cause it was so fucking retarded cause I also needed to get ready for patch 3.4

it may of made it if pokemon died out years ago but it did not so why

This is the most defensive, victim complex post i have seen on Holla Forums ever. Good lord.

only 3702 people did it all. worldwide.

Imagine that

Excessive marketing to the point where the marketing vastly outbudgets the development budget

It also has Level 5's retarded pokemon mechanic where you only get yo-kai through random drops. Ni-No-kuni did this too and it was pretty terrible there.

He's got the right idea though; successful series typically have good ton of porn.

It's also acquisition. They aren't developers. They are publishers. Activision used to be but their fall from grace is pretty well documented, but in EA and Zenimax's case they were never developers. They wait until a relatively small time independent developer gets big and they force them into a buyout. Examples are how EA bought out Bioware through a subsidary before trading to the main company. Zenibmax trying to buy out the Prey devs by fucking over the development team and bleeding them dry.

And i forgot to add, the only people who have played it and not liked it were people who were initially pissed off from the idea of Yokai somehow "replacing" pokemon (and that's real fucking retarded) saying it looks like a shameless clone and complaining that it's too similar


they complain that it's nothing like pokemon and therefore it's BAD.

Get over it, people, there are many rational reasons to like this game and to not like it and none of them have anything to do with Pokemon because Pokemon is irrelevant, i personally prefer yokai watch because it doesn't take itself awfully seriously like Pokemon does.

That too, thing is while Level 5 never outright claimed Yokai Watch was some sort of Pokemon killer attempt much like all the clones in the late 90s and early 2000s were they made the games way too similar to those games, having monster collecting that isn't straightforward and battles that are either too simplistic or too much like Pokemon.

I didn't like it because it was BORING. Get over it, kike.

That sounds like correlation = causation to me.

The Toon Disney, Disney XD, or whatever the fuck they're calling themselves now version was made like if 4Kidsk media rose from it's grave.

all the creatures look even more retarded than pokemon.

difference being pokemon has millions of dollars in marketing and shittendo backing them up

Isn't FF14 suppose to be a fucking disaster nobody bought anyways? i'm honestly surprised they're still doing shit for this bomb.

When I saw this game I only tought:
"What some generic shit, just gonna be good for hentai of the cute girls."
And oh how right I was.

Nah it's actually a causal relationship but he's got it backwards.
Popular series get more porn, even of characters that wouldn't otherwise be sexualized.

get out from under that rock user

Its the second biggest sub mmo after world of warcraft and the most profitable square enix product since final fantasy 7

But most of the porn comes from the boys.

Not anymore. Unless the next expansion pack is as lackluster as the current one.

For one, Nintendo barely advertised Yokai Watch at all. 2, in the west absolutely nobody knows what a Yokai Watch is.

Like even though the demo automatically downloads onto 3DS' I don't know if anyone actually played it, I know I didn't once I heard monsters would just attack automatically so I lost interest.

good goyim hehehehe

I totally understand annon.
Glorious male or hapharzard female. this is important to know, we're all faggots here.

Shill please.

Zenimax is maximum jew, but that doesn't mean Bethesda can't also be complete shit. What good has Zenimax done?

The only good thing that came out of it was the loli porn.

POST LOLIS

Gotcha bro.

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Yes, by exaggerating it to a ridiculous degree. Yoshitsune Minamoto uses a lightsaber and Da Ji is a scantily dressed foxgirl for fucks sake

The problem with this game was that it tried to use undead, ghosts and demons fron Japanese folklore and marketing towards little children forcing the devs to make cute/funny looking monsters and a beyond simply combat system.
This game might as well be a VN with the little gameplay that it has

that is FFXIV. Were talking about FFXIV: A realm reborn and its expansion Heavensward.

1.0 was a huge fucking crash, infact it was such a huge mistake they made the badguys win and destroy the world in game. they then remade it as A realm reborn also called 2.0 which was a pretty good WoW knockoff about the survivors of the meteor trying to not make that happen again.

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Kek.

B^U

Well no shit is the biggest selling since its a fucking MMO its not impressive at all and not fair to compare it to a regular retail game.

It really is too bad the combat is absolute shit


Who thought about this shit? I love everything about the game, but it fails in the most important aspects
By trying not to copy pokemon it became literally the worst possible abortion that it could've been

It's not like Pokemon has good combat either.

At least you can control over the combat in pokemon, which in the end makes it more enjoyable

Do you think I'm gay?

That's the worst part. It doesn't even have any appeal for non fans, since it's too gay.

Pokemon is pretty gay too, but at least it has plenty of pokegirl porn.

Pokemon has memorable characters, something yo-kai watch lacks, its generic as fuck.

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I won't lament it if we never get 3, pirated Fleshy recently and logged a few dozen hours so far. It's a decent timewaster, but there's no way I'd ever pay for it between the cringey writing, horrible localized names and overall lack of challenge. Busters looks to be the best game because it doesn't just play itself for once, but we were never going to get that no matter how well 1 or 2 did.


I fucking hate you.

YW3 and Busters are the best in the series gameplay wise, if you ever feel like reading from a guide for half the game or learn japanese like you should be doing right now they manage to get away from the boring do nothing battle style, and are fun

Just because you remember it doesn't make it a memorable thing at large, more than half the world knows pikachu and the pokemon franchise, in comparison only a small handful of autists know of that monster story even when they played the game.

memorable != recognizable

Pleb

Yokai is a good game for weebs, it has retained its Japanese roots and charm.

Pokémon has been Burgered by 4kids.

The designs are boring. Level 5 hasn't made a good game since Dark Cloud 2.

The travesty that was Rogue Galaxy would have caused them all to be executed in a just world.

Dragon Quest Monsters also does this but your attacks to recruit don't do damage, just fill up a "chance of recruitment" gauge which is plainly visible, and also has the chance of monsters spontaneously joining after you defeat the.

Without commenting on much else, I think it was a boneheaded decision to have the dubbed animated series on Disney XD.

At least use a channel that most American households have.

I bought and played it during a 2-week hospital stay.

It's really no surprise the game bombed. It's bland, childish, and pathetically, almost insultingly easy.

And because it had no name-brand behind it, people aren't quite letting it get away with that as much as they would with Pokemon.

People used this argument unironically. That Japan was being xenophobic for not sharing its glorious culture that nobody except them can understand. Real ingenious there. Can't help but wonder if the ones shilling it had stock in Level 5 and were expecting it to be the next Pokemon so they can make a killing. Donut work so get a brain morans. Also fuck the art style.

It was pretty obvious it was going to bomb in the west. I called that whenever people said "Yokai Watch is the next Pokémon!!!" with absolutely 0 basis and got blasted for it, I wonder if those people are on suicide watch now.

Main reasons:
-The "Pokemon" of Yokai Watch have no international appeal whatsoever, being based on japanese folklore only. Doesn't help that the designs are ugly as fuck and the artstyle doesn't help much. I just don't see people wanting to collect these, unlike Pokemon or Digimon.

–The game has no depth to it (Pokémon has IVs, EVs etc), the characters are bland as fuck, it's piss easy even compared to Pokemon.
–No staying power due to ^
–The segment this game aims to is kids, especifically japanese kids. This alone is a giveaway that this was going to fail here, as kids in general tend to like a thing one day and drop it the other. And as they grow, if the thing is deemed "kiddy" by their peers they will drop it, especially applicable to USA. Pokémon got around this because everyone wanted to collect the critters, even the edgiest of edgelords secretly played Pokemon. If you thought this was going to happen with a game with such bad design like Yokai Watch you're delusional.
–Not many sexy girls to secure the audience. Pokemon has a lot, whether this was an accident or planned, it's genius. If your character design of a girl on a kid's product doesn't have the potential to be a first fap, your design is shit.

yo kai watch is even worse than modern pokeman

Your mom is worse than Yo Kai Watch.

can't argue with that

I bet your dad fucked you in the ass while you played yo kai shit.

he did touch my butthole in my sleep once

I bet your lying you ass-less piece of shit.

Yokai Watch failed, like every other game called "oh my fucking god the next ", because has two things over anything new: an established community and name recognition. By calling any new franchise remotely similar to the next they immediately set it up for failure.

Similar to when WoW was the MMO all it did was attract people looking to recapture their childhood and coming up short. They don't realize, like WoW, their childhood died a long time ago.

It could have been an ok game but by comparing it to a giant media franchise like pokemon they immediately killed it everywhere in the world other than Japan due to nonattachment to lore and setting it up as substitute pokemon.

This, combined with people literally only still buying pokemon games because "omg pokemon" even though the games have been trash since gen 3 while Nintendo pumps them out every two years, is essentially going to kill any nonestablished franchise's attempt to do anything even remotely close to a collection type game and will kill pokemon (hopefully) rather quickly.

I don't think it every really had a market in the west. Too japanese for kids who would probably just want to play pokemon and too simple and "immature" for adults who wanted a pokemon game for themselves. though they kinda have it with digimon already

Yeah I remember back in the day Pokemon would air on local channels every Saturday morning & Digimon on Sundays on another local channel, but due to laws at least here in burgerland to push for more educational programming on local channels Saturday morning cartoons are a thing of the past.

Also you don't really see kids with handheld consoles anymore, as they mostly use tablets and smartphones to play games and watch shows these days. Personally I see more young adults with 3DSs and the occasional Vita.

But even then they messed up as most kids dont care for Nintendo games or "kiddy" games now.

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"MY RATATTA IS IN THE TOP 1%!"

can't argue with that, the series is overwhelmingly japanese, exepct for YW3. Also there's more good designed -kai than you think, it's just that they are never promoted or shown, so you have to play the game to find them, it's a shame that the worst -kai get all the advertising budget.
but that's wrong you fucking wrong person.
more like bad localization and a lack of foreplanning. In japan, YW appealed to everyone, in the US they tried to aim for the kids but forgot that kids are fickle and know when something is overly childish. And again, they don't show off the goodly designed -kai.
well that's just like, your opinion, man

Yokai watch just isn't fun unless you're actually Japanese. That or a ten year old Japanologist.

Well here's an example.

Behold, the yokai that is a butt face that also looks like a penis plus fart jokes.

Isn't that funny, kids? You get it right, grown ups? PENISBUTTBRRRZT ha-ha-ha

I got a some kind of diet Cirno minion from it in FFXIV, so there's that I guess.

Interesting that it's declining so fast. I can see Pokemon never declining. Even if the games are subpar (looking at X and Y) the games will always get stellar reviews and sell a boatload because of the name.
There are much better RPGs on the 3DS to get. A shame you have to import them because Nintendo of America are quite adamant about becoming the next 4kids.

I think the games are comfy and the series is funny. So sue me.

That's my favorite pokemon

Where's that from?

If this is standard fare no wonder this series died.

WHAT IS THIS

a traditional youkai
i think it has something to do with "brown eye" being a euphemism for anus

found it:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirime

Nips are autistic

is asseye in the show?

Shit gameplay, monsters lack the pet qualities that consistently keep pokemon popular.

pls

Shows that strictly appeal to kids and not both kids and older audiences are universally really, really annoying for anyone outside that age range. To the point where it can and sometimes does drive people nuts.

Bethesda is a subsidiary of ZeniMax Media Inc. Fundamentally they're the same company, Bethesda is the primary dev branch and is the "face" of this monster.

Retard.

This game was fucking terrible, it makes pokemon look like the second coming of Jesus

this is probably the only time I've seen it brought up for reasons other than wanting to smash the girl

NO PANYANYAN, NO BUY

Read your words back to yourself. Just because you remember it, doesn't make it memorable.

People remember Pikachu because the retarded rodent was plastered everywhere for a time.
You are honestly calling Pikachu a good and interesting "monster"?

I liked Digimon World 2 better than any modern 'monster raising' games.

I thought SJWs love this shit.

I had fun with it as a kid, but I recall the leveling system being a massive time sink.

Oh, it is. Amazingly so. Still enjoyed it. There's just something awesome about Tankmon.

It's nice, but it's no Digimon World 1

Post more yokai lolis.

Digimon World 3 is still my favorite. It would've been a lot better if your digimon made more comments than just the single lines they got at the beginning of the game.Digimon World 4 is a guilty pleasure with how mediocre it is; maybe it's because I saw a lot of potential with it.