These faggots over at Spacebattles, one of those big "geek central" forums, think the legion wont be able to handle shit after Caesar's death/ failure at Hoover Dam. They also used vid related as a guide, and its fuckin shoddycast. With my currently shitty net, I sadly didn't get to webm it. Here is forum link: forums.spacebattles.com/threads/wi-vs-caesars-legion-wins-the-battle-of-hoover-dam.411809/
We all know you're a regular here and you're being faux tsun-tsun. :^)
Joshua Williams
Why should I care about a forum again?
Carson Reed
If you hate them so much, then why did you direct-link?
I fucking swear.
It's not enough son. Time for dubs.
Asher Collins
rollan
Anthony Bell
Legion can suck my rolling cock.
Aiden Torres
Haha I'm jesus I came back to life checkmate.
William Perry
He wants a personal army without specifically asking for one
Benjamin Hughes
Isnt that what Holla Forums and /baph/ are for or whatever.
Mason Ross
No that's what goons are for
Bentley Morgan
checkmate jesus
Landon Rogers
again
Blake Carter
Fuck that, anyone have the playthrough rollan image?
Asher Young
GamerGate poster confirmed.
Thomas Cruz
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Joshua Walker
Legion can't handle Caesars death, they can't even grasp half the shit Caesar talked about when he was alive.
Even if Legion got all its content and fleshed out it woud still be doomed to fail the moment Caesar dies, like every other lame ass organization formed around a cult of personality.
Ryder Peterson
What objection do you hold with this video? I thought it was well done. The main points seem pretty clearly conveyed, and it seems pretty thorough in its considerations. All it really says is that if the Legion doesn't figure out how to codify its culture into something more significant than a cult of personality as well as ensure that it has the ability to rethink its structure in the event that its leader dies, retreats, or is captured, then it will be doomed to fail.
Logan Stewart
What about Lanius? He wasn't anywhere as intelligent as Ceasar but he was able to whip the legion into shape, whats to say he can't lead it just the same in Ceasar's place, especially if Ceasar named him as official successor
Andrew Reed
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Michael Torres
Even Antler would make a better leader after the war.
Jace Ward
There seems to be a lot of (1)s in here, quite suspicious, wont you say?
Jace King
ahahahhahaahhaahhaha
Nolan Thomas
Rolling to smell that air and drink it like booze.
Jackson Phillips
Lanius is just muscle with a habit of sacrificing his own men to Mars. You just hand the dog its own leash… well, maybe except Golden Retrievers but you don't expect them to run an Empire.
Now Vulpes on the hand…
Adam Phillips
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Landon King
Maybe Vulpes could run an empire, but could he lead one?
Jacob Myers
roland
Ethan Peterson
The Brotherhood of Steel is the best faction. They have the technology and the strong militaristic culture to survive in the new world. They already have chapters all over America. If the East Coast Brotherhood spreads their non-isolationist ideology to the other chapters, then they will take over the entire country. Maybe the entire world.
Lucas Martinez
He'd keep the Legion running longer than Lanius would that's for damn sure.
Lanius proved how fucktarded he is in ending slide where he loses loads of men to the Remnants. What cost the Burned Man his life I would assume Lanius would do every single battle.
Benjamin Myers
The group that have the fag who quotes Walnuts Peanuts Patricia Smells in their videos and is shilled by her on Kotaku?
Fuck you, OP. Fuck you.
They can't. Neither side will hold it together. The NCR are corrupt and ineffectual fools who will break apart due to being unable to hold people together, and the Legion won't last long because of the same reasons Alexander the Great and Genghis the Khan couldn't after their deaths; over extension without induction of the conquered people.
Neither side wins in the end.
Aaron Taylor
R-R-ROLLAN Legion totally will fall apart when Caesar dies, eat shit Legionfags
Joshua Rodriguez
Yes, my fellow Holla Forumsedditor, show those mysoginists why Holla Forums is a safe space.
Carson Myers
You get beheaded. Twice.
Jaxson Bailey
Too bad, faggot, I'm walking out of town a free man.
Juan Cruz
Nice try shill
Isaac Gutierrez
You get the head of your penis cut off and then the head of your torso cut off and I swear to god if you complain again and turn this beheading around and cut your ass off and glue it to your neck stump.
Charles Rogers
I wasn't complaining. I was leaving. Try and stop me.
Gabriel Adams
Aight.
Dylan Stewart
Come and take it.
Mason Lopez
You're an unarmed civilian that's been captured by the Legion and is going to be beheaded. You're not an NCR cuck. You don't get to rewrite the scenario, faggo.
Brody Rogers
The image doesn't say that at all, so they made the unfortunate mistake of fucking with the wrong courier. Get fucked, Legionfag, do I need to beat your squad to death with a baseball bat to drive my point home?
Angel Morris
Reminder that The BoS is the best faction.
Adam Evans
It's got a bunch of peasants on crosses, and you've already been captured. If you are a NCR ranger oh wait now you're a courier, then you've been captured and stripped of your armour already. You're certainly not armed with a pistol or a bat. If you have a squad they're either dead or stripped and about to be killed too. Oh wait I forgot now you're a courier, who have a piss poor survival record in New Vegas iirc.
And I don't even like the Legion. You're just trying to be one of those fags that rolls on something then thinks 'oh it's okay if I rewrite everything' making the whole point of rolling null and void. Faggot. You got beheaded, and you can't reverse it. Cry harder.
Oliver Cooper
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Carson Brown
The full might of the Brotherhood would beat them both.
Connor Richardson
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Adrian Roberts
Should i start with New Vegas or Fallout 3? Never touched any Fallout game.
Nolan Martinez
They are separate entries, but I you start with New Vegas you will really feel the lack of all the additional features if you ever decide to go back to 3.
And do not play 3 unless you own Broken Steel. Otherwise you can't continue after the ending.
David Russell
Please be gentle.
Xavier Butler
A tale of two wastelands.
Aiden Richardson
Play them in order you fucking nigger
Isaac Perry
Fallout is trash kill youself
Jacob Turner
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Aiden Morales
Bethesda was involved in FO or FO2. Thanks for making it easy to spot the faggot.
Isaiah Campbell
We all agree that the Brotherhood is the best faction.
But do we agree that the Institute was the worst? They created super strong, super smart cyborgs, then made them slaves to mop the floors. WTF? It's like they wanted them to rebel.
Wyatt Smith
Stop right there you FO3 bethesda cock-mongling faggots!
The BoS are nothing but techno-fetishist raiders. Maybe the first and second generation of the BoS did care about preserving technology and human progress just a little, but that is all gone now. You don't see the BoS raiding hospitals and preserving auto-docs and artificial organs, you know, the stuff that actually helps people. Instead, you see them gargling whatever plasma casters and power armor they can get their hands on, you know, the stuff that kills people. They literally just want all the "toys" to themself like the spoiled brats they are. I blow up the bunker every time, regardless of playthrough and even when I side with them to see their content.
I think you got it a little bit wrong, The Legion doesn't really face the same problems that Alexander and Genghis khan face because of how they handle induction. Caesar himself says that the Legion obliterates the identity of every group it encounts before absorbing it into its own monolithic mass. This should in theory get rid of that problem you talked about, but I believe the legions problems revolve around it being overly reliant on Caesar himself, who has not really found someone his equal to lead the legion after his passing.
Hudson Ward
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Leo Harris
Spoken like a dumb luddite running around the desert with a sword, no pants and speaking bad latin.
Jaxon Taylor
plz no bully
Owen Gomez
oh shit nigger, you sure showed me! Nevermind that this "dumb luddite" spoke a lot of legitimate criticisms about the BoS, your memearrows prevail over an actual argument!
Kill yourself you FO3/FO4 fag fanboy. Your game's lores are shit that is basically considered non-canon like the bad bethesda fanfiction it is.
Jayden Murphy
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Nathan Diaz
It doesn't matter. There hasn't been a good Fallout game since the first one.
Gabriel Torres
Fixed.
Logan Edwards
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Jordan Gomez
t. Obsidirone
Mason Sanchez
The only other good faction would be enclave, but Bethesda killed them off for good.
Isaiah Bennett
That was a direct quote, you retard.
Only to a luddite like you.
The Legion really is an insult to ancient Rome. The Romans were excellent engineers and architects. They built the aqueducts and the coliseum. The Legion is a pack of tribals with delusions of grandeur. Iron Age primitives in a world of power armor and vertibirds. In the real world, retards running around with swords would get slaughtered.
Luis Campbell
Let me guess, you didn't actually play New Vegas.
If you actually read the butchered lore of the Legion, you would find that they are not "Iron Age primitives".
You're not arguing, you're just going "nu-uh!" and namecalling.
Your "direct quotations" are useless because you are not arguing, you are just repeating my talking points.
You're an idiot, kill yourself.
Charles Collins
rome kinda got lucky w/ dey volcanic ash gettin up in dey concrete or w/e on accident on dat architecture tip tho tbh monjica
Jeremiah Morales
sonny have you even thanked your logic engine for showing you all that flatulence porn?
Andrew Gomez
You guess wrong.
"Caesar" was a historian that was just larping as a Roman. Am I suppose to be impressed? I'm not. Wearing football pads and a wolf head might scare barefoot tribals that are as dumb as you are.
But they will make any real military just laugh at you. Guess what, dummy. Football gear isn't bulletproof.
I am directly quoting your stupid words.
Evan Roberts
ur a cheeky cunt I'll give you hat m8.
The mechanicus is a bad example for pro-techno-fetishism tho.
John Nelson
Go back to school already kid, its clear you need to attend debate club.
Or just kill yourself already, you seem to be dumber than my so called stupid words, which is such a shame.
Ryder Turner
You dont think the NCRs armor is bulletproof do you? And shooting a dude from 12 yards is alright in one on one engagements, but push that to 2000 men. And then theres the fact Caesar has more men. And then its just the weak first wave fuckers that dont have guns, and anyone behind them have your allies guns they stripped from them, like how the courier does. All the first wave or two of the few dozen they throw out does is it makes you expend ammo and energy on people who will still get to you and hurt you, and then the guys behind them, who are stronger having survived living through those first waves have you on the recoil in close range with melee weapons as well as weapons like yours. Its a basic roman tactic and it is effective.
Adam Gray
Look at all of that projection. Stop throwing a temper tantrum and look at what you are doing.
You are seriously trying to argue that retards with swords and football padding can beat professional soldiers with guns and armor. You are trying to polish a turd.
Mason Moore
Your argument is based on the fact that none of the legion have guns,when its established they loot their dead enemies. Its just the raw recruits who dont. The front liners who are there to tire you out and expend ammo and prove themselves by not dying. Everyone else behind them have guns. Go play hoover dam again and fight the legion. They have guns, just not the first wave. imagine that on 1000v1000 and you're not super special courier man who never tires or runs out of ammo.
Justin Campbell
I'm the one throwing a temper tantrum and projecting? Whatever you say kid.
Jace Hughes
I think the Legion's greatest asset is the frumentarii. They've gotten behind the NCRs front line multiple times, have spies within the NCR, and manages to assassinate the president. They also do use guns, hunting rifles and hunting shotguns are pretty common.
Thomas Wilson
Today's armor can stop rifle rounds.
Human wave attacks were made obsolete in WW1 by automatic weapons and razor wire.
Automatic weapons >> iron age tactics.
Brayden King
Yes.
You have completely run out of arguments. All you have left are pictures of blacks that are smarter than you are. You don't see gangs running around the ghetto with skirts and short swords. A Crip with a Kalashnikov is better armed than a legionnaire.
Aaron Anderson
Are you sure you're not talking to yourself? You're clearly retarded, you're comparing real life to a video game, and you are not even getting the facts of a video game correct in
Please do continue though, you are providing prime material for why bethesda fanboys are fucking retards and why BoS fans belong on a cross.
Henry Gray
This.
Also thinning out your population by using your young as target practice is pants on head retarded if you want to expand. And i'm not even gonna go into what kinda fucked up future generation of warriors you'll get by just boning slaves all day, having to know their mothers were locked up in rape racks.
The legion is so ridiculous as a faction you can get. Sure, they'll be able to take over native american-tier tribes. But but them up against any real faction in the fallout universe and they'd be wiped out. Hell Leave them alone for too long and they'll wipe themselves out. A true edgelord contrarian faction. And a solid 2/10.
Nolan Davis
Right, and where does the ncr have todays armor? Its said outright during the game they can barely outfit the new guys with a gun, let alone standard combat fatigues, which is nowhere near body armor. So how will they have this advanced equipment and not the copious amount of leather and cloth they use in game? Guess its good caesars legion isnt a primitive army against america but rather an army against ncr, which is barely at ww1 standards, with half the men. And you avoided, again, the fact that legion HAS GUNS TOO. Its just the first wave meant to tire you out. And its already established the later waves with better equipment have guns, are in better shape than the raw ncr recruits and the ncr are outnumbered and now tired. Explain again how they win? Semi automatic. They use service carbines. And again, legion has guns too.
Brayden Thomas
I don't understand how anyone can forget how many 12.7mm SMGs they have, unless they're doing it deliberately. Not to mention all the caravan shotguns, cowboy repeaters, etc.
Chase Price
Don't forget about all the stealthboys you can get from the legion safehouse.
This "Legion is luddite" shit is a shit meme that needs to be crucified.
Thomas Young
I think he's being deliberately obtuse to try to get a rise out of anons is all. That or he knows very little about new vegas and is talking out his ass. It's established in game already that NCR is outnumbered, with raw troops, overtaxed everywhere and needs your help to hire all the people in the region to help them, or use you as their prophecy maguffin to save them.
What can you do, theyre seen as the football melee faction, even if thats usually just the raw recruits. I can say for damned certain when I ran through hoover dam, it was just the fuckers at the start dumb enough to try to machete me, and then everyone else was firing.
Evan Foster
The standard NCR service rifle is pretty terrible too
Jose Reyes
They don't. They have 2077 future armor. Some soldiers even had modified power armor they looted from the Brotherhood.
All NCR soldiers had rifles. Even the crappy recruits that you had to whip into shape had guns.
Wrong. Their service rifle was an AR15.
Their elite soldiers had guns. The vast majority used swords and spears. Fucking spears. Give me a break.
You people said that already. Doesn't change the fact that human wave attacks are obsolete against guns. Especially in the open desert.
William Clark
Hahahahaha. So the cloth armor is future armor? Somehow they all have combat armor despite it being said they have cloth armor and wearing cloth armor? Or do you think the entire army is made up of combat armor and ncr armor? Oh, you mean those few dozen suits they got from the midwest brotherhood in nevada? Wow. Good thing they got about a dozen nonfunctioning power armor in a battle of a thousand men. Thats right, shitt service carbines Remind me how an AR15 is automatic and not semi automatic? You said automatic, I said semi automatic. Where am I wrong? Go play hoover dam again. Anyone above recruit has guns. Reg guys have caravan shotguns, service carbines and rifles. Elites have 12.7mm automatic guns, which hit like a motherfucker. It might be the issue is you havent actually beaten the game and seen the legions army at the dam. First wave tires you out, second wave has guns while youre low on ammo and fatigued. With their increased numbers entirely viable. Where is this not a sound strategy tiring out the enemy with fodder then bringing in the guys with guns? Especially when you have more guns and bodies.
Andrew Richardson
The only person to use that word is you.
All NCR soldiers wear armor. If you have a point, then make it.
Multiple dozens of heavily armored soldiers sounds good to me. It's a lot more than the Legion has.
I never said that. The assault carbine is the automatic rifle that the NCR uses.
Only everywhere. Starting with thinking it's a good idea to bring a spear to a gun battle.
The tactics of feral ghouls, zombies and Zap Brannigan.
Everywhere. Not just in real life, but in any fictional setting that doesn't break suspension of disbelief. I like Obsidian. But they dropped the ball on the Legion.
They should have done the opposite. The regular legionnaires should have guns. The elite legionnaires should use melee weapons and wear power armor. I could give them a pass on that. Berserkers wearing power armor is the only way to get into melee range of soldiers.
Hunter Cruz
Suck my bulletproof jock strap
Luke Nguyen
Chief hanlon mentions theyre not outfitted, the weaponsalesmen that got courtmarshaled(pic related) at 188 trading outpost outright says they can barely outfit them, and theyre putting the majority in cloth crap, which your pic is. That looks like armor to you? It's literally clothing, leather and a leather breastplate. How is this armor to you? Many npcs in the game outright state the ncr are woefully unequipped. Even your own picture shows theyre unequipped. That's not armor, its clothing. counting rangers and power armor suits they have a few dozen men in armor. See how much that matters in a war with 1000 men. Especially a war where, again, the ncr is outnumbered. You claimed it before as a defense for the ncr. your own post history shows it. Already been established majority of legion soldiers have guns, only recruits mainly use melee weapons. Try to keep up. And romans, which managed to conquer a large part of the world. You must not have read history or many military strategy books then. Caesars tactics are a pretty well known attack technique, from guerrilla warfare to using human waves to wear down an opponent to defeat them. It's becoming increasingly evident that you're the ignorant one in this situation.
And again. Regular legionnaires have guns. The new recruits dont. Go play again and pay attention. The new guys use machetes and spears, and as you get stronger and fight real legionaries you face dudes with caravan shotguns and rifles. Im not sure why this needs to keep being explained to you.
Lucas Peterson
Forgot to add this, as well as pointing out your own automatic weapons statement. The woman is the arms trader who outright tells you the new recruits barely have shit, only a basic rifle and shitty uniform, that can barely be called armor. Its made of cloth and leather.
Blake Sanchez
Jesus what a shitty fucking video
What killed the Roman Empire was hedonism. The Legion makes it a point to discourage hedonism because they beleive that was what killed Rome
Tyler Sanders
Check me mcdougals
Kayden Hill
Yes.
Says you. The picture clearly shows him wearing a breastplate.
By NCR standards they are under equipped. Compared to Legion spear chuckers they are over equipped. That's because NCR has a professional military and the Legion are sandal wearing tribals.
Wrong. Not counting rangers. There are hundreds of rangers. NCR Ranger, Mojave Rangers, they seem to be everywhere.
A thousand spear chuckers.
Good for me.
It shows me saying that the assault carbine is the NCR's automatic weapon. Not the service rifle aka AR15, which you accused me of saying was automatic.
It's hard to keep up with all of your bullshit. For 99% of the game, the majority of legionnaires were spear chuckers. The only time they used a majority of guns was at the last battle. Probably because all the canon fodder spear chuckers were already dead.
Do you want to talk about strategy or tactics. Make up your mind. They are two completely different things.
You people bash me for bringing the real world into a video game, then try to pass off Caesar as an expert on gun battles. For fuck's sake, use some common sense. Iron Age tactics do not fucking work with guns. The Roman testudo doesn't work anymore. Walking in formation towards the enemy doesn't work anymore. Human wave attacks do not work anymore. Even the Soviet Union realized how retarded human wave attacks are.
Ryder Gomez
Watch the first 2 episodes of GATE to see someone try it.
Of leather. You mean the guys with 12.7mm automatic guns, armor as well on their vets and praetorians, as well as the reg soldiers to the vets and praetorians having guns? Theres a reason why the legion is winning during the events of the game. There are only a hundred at best in the mojave. Hanlen himself states theyre overstretched as it is and most are out ranging. Theres a reason why you dont see a lot of them. And those are the ones in ranger clothing. It's desert rangers. You could at least be knowledgeable in the topics youre discussing. Still trying to ignore the legionaires have guns huh? Ignoring facts dont make them go away. Standard weapon is service carbine not assault carbine. Then what exactly is your argument of automatic weapons >> iron age tactics when vast majority of ncr soldiers dont have an automatic weapon? Play again. Past lvl 15 they upgrade to caravan shotguns and rifles. Recruits have machetes and spears. the art of planning and directing overall military operations and movements in a war or battle. synonyms: the art of war, (military) tactics "military strategy" Don't you ever get tired of being wrong user? user, im saying hes a good strategist. He knows how to use tactics well in battle. And roman wave tactics still work, as well as guerilla tactics. How do you think che Guevara fought? And since when does human wave tactics not work? Do you think you never run out of bullets or an outnumbered army with inferior equipment will suddenly kill everyone with their semi automatic weapons before they close the distance and get to them?
Hell, the first battle the ncr had to blow up one of their own cities to stop the legion and only won because of chief hanlons brilliant strategy, coupled with grahams stupidity.
Where does it say metal user. it says breastplate, which your pic shows. And it looks to be made of leather. Its not modern armor, and certainly not "2077 future armor" like you claimed.
Justin Hughes
Fallout 3 was the best Fallout. Also, rolling.
Wyatt Parker
This was by far the most enjoyable Holla Forums and/or Fallout autism I have seen in my entire life. I could practically imagine both of you in NCR/Leejun uniforms, good job, the both of you.
I don't even like legion, I actually prefer ncr. It's just ridiculous to me to claim NCR is in a better position strategically after general wait and see overextended them and undersupplied them. Chief Hanlin should have been in charge.
Jeremiah Russell
You're right on most things, execpt this; strategy and tactics are mutually exclusive. You can have perfect strategy and zero tactics to back it up, vice versa.
Ryan Gomez
Strategy and tactics can be used interchangably. Look it up.
Charles Russell
By plebs that don't know the difference.
Strategy = Plan Tactics = Execution
They are not interchangeable.
Caleb Barnes
I would like to see modern infantry march with shields and form testudo in front of their enemy.
Red herring.
First, he didn't send his men out to get shot so his enemy ran out of bullets. Second, he lost.
NCR equipment was superior to the Legion in every way, shape and form.
I already answered that. WW1.
Bullets are cheap. Soldiers are expensive. Even Legion soldiers. The Legion would run out of soldiers far sooner than the NCR would run out of bullets.
This video is typical Legion fight. I play as a sniper, like the player. Boone and I would snipe them from far away. A few survivors would run at me with swords and we would gun them down. It's easy in open terrain.
Kevin Johnson
You should calm down on the spacing.
Samuel Perez
Nothing wrong with a little bit of organising is there, user?
Henry Turner
time for me to die
Hunter Reyes
Who? Where? Why care?
Joshua Parker
Yes there is, at most
this
or go home
Jack Morgan
rollan
Josiah Harris
The British Empire would like a word with you.
Luis Murphy
A ton of people ingame, including Caesar himself basically, say that the Legion can't hold together without Caesar's leadership and personality cult. It's the whole reason Caesar wants to take New Vegas and the NCR; he knows the Legion is useless as anything but Mongol tactics and wants to somehow combine the nations into something better.
The Legion is literally set up to grind out technology and education, to the point where they don't even have competent doctors without enslaving one as Caesar's personal smart person. They have competent spies, military leaders and soldiers (to an extent) and that's all the competence they have; Caesar set them up solely as conquerers, and they expect civilians under their control to do all the real work.
The NCR is struggling in the Mojave because they're overstretched, underfunded and poorly managed, and even then they beat the Legion once and are evenly matched for another round, while the Legion works best as a mobile military spearhead. The NCR actually getting their shit together could be one of the most effective and overall good for everyone governments New Vegas could hope for, while the Legion just kills a shitload of people and sets up more rape and child soldier training camps, and Mr House and/or the Courier turns New Vegas into a personal fiefdom and leaves the rest to their own devices.
(Hell, the Legion is basically ISIS, or vice versa; rapacious conquering with no regard for their own lives, no culture but the vague pretence of religion, having teenage soldiers do all the work and get themselves killed for old men busy fucking slaves in their tents, and disdaining all technology that can't be used to kill people and all modern luxuries and medicine except for the people at the top)
Anthony Mitchell
And where is the British Empire now ay? They are kangs again, new kangs.
Gavin Reed
I could drink this air like booze
Bentley Rivera
Afghans would like to have a word with British Empire
But trully, legion was wasted potential, fraction for edgy teenagers
Ian Ross
Afghanistan is the jump the shark moment of empires. There's fucking nothing there TO conquer except the people crazy enough to still live there, who are thus way too crazy to be conquered.
Easton Wright
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Josiah Ross
Don't forget about the LARPers who think they'd be a Centurion in charge of their own camp when in reality they'd be strung up on a cross or thrown to the rape cages for being profligates.
Owen Walker
The Legion consists entirely of Chads.
I mean, the whole point is that they find anything resembling a comfortable modern life wasteful, disgusting and worthy of being tortured to death, while the only proper life is to die as a teenage soldier for a bald nerd's empire. Legionaries don't get to retire.
Ayden Peterson
ROLLING
Liam Jackson
rolling for quick beheading
Robert Hernandez
Rolling for freedom
Tyler Gray
OOGA BOOGA GO BACK TO ARIZONA LEGIONFAGS
Luis Wilson
Roll for the lottery.
Julian Rogers
What's surprising about that? They're /tg/ tier leftist cuckolds that do whatever it takes to make their community a safe environment for women.
They're the usual thirsty betas.
Nicholas Young
No. There has to be a space between paragraphs. And I don't want my words that close to yours.
"Kaiser" reminds me of Walter White from Breaking Bad. A nerd that becomes arrogant and reckless because he's dying of cancer. Legion are cosplayers of the apocalypse.
Cooper White
Fuck off to reddit.
Noah Cook
You've really added a lot to this thread, user.
Leo Harris
What the fuck is a "PSEUDO FASCIST GENERIC CALL OF DUTY-ESQUE FACTION". Do they scream heil hitler while jacking off to rifles renamed to shit like Kalash 69 or M 1488 painted in retarded colors like used tampons stripe and clown jizz tarn.
Nathan Ross
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Daniel Moore
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Lucas Robinson
rollan
Liam Diaz
For Prime Legionaries and above, in other words, what's left after the rest of his squad's been wiped out because they charge into battle with fucking lawn mower blade swords. Try again, Legionfag.
Connor Rodriguez
When they do use guns like the ones trying to kill you if you piss off the legion they usually use cowboy repeaters or the occasional 12.7mm pistol or smg. Other than those fags if you walk around at higher levels they will occasionally have a 1 or 2 guys with a repeater. The game continues after you reach vegas did you know that?
Elijah Butler
roll
Jose Allen
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David Cox
comparing the legion to level 1 trash mobs that you meat first?
what of the detachment sent to subjugate that little town of nipton? could we perhaps assume that that pack of dogs is the default crew sent behind enemy lines to fuck shit up? what are their 4 cowboy repeaters and an "officer" with a ripper. and a few war dogs for fun? i don't recall the exact loot they had on them. and i think it would be lore friendly for them to have elite hit squads to send after people who piss the legion off with a high enough power level.
Anthony Hall
Those "level 1 trash mobs" are explicitly the backbone of the Legion's forces. For gameplay purposes, they can't just throw 30 shitty recruits at you for every Decanus you see.
Grayson Kelly
they are recruits, as in shithead that just got sinned up and are now in "boot camp" or are you saying that newbies are the backbone of every army that those ncr washouts are the backbone of the ncr?
Connor Reyes
No, I'm saying that the game literally says most of the Legion's forces are shitty recruits. The only way to get promoted is to throw yourself in the face of death and get lucky enough to survive, and then Caesar starts giving you the good stuff. The Legion's advantage is derived from their ability to brute force most of their problems by throwing recruits at it until it goes away.
Justin Ross
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Anthony Edwards
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Caleb Kelly
NCR outguns Legion at every level. NCR is an industrialized civilization with a professional military. Legion are backward tribals that have to scavenge guns from their enemies. All they can make themselves are machetes and caveman spears.
Standard soldiers. Legion has machetes, spears, football padding and no pants. NCR has semi auto AR15s, chest armor made up of indeterminate material and pants.
Elite soldiers. Legion has 12.7mm guns. NCR Rangers have .50 caliber sniper rifles and automatic rifles.
Heavy troops. Praetorians guarding the "Kaiser" have power fists. NCR Heavy Troopers have modified power armor and miniguns.
Kevin Russell
Don't forget weaponized faggotry.
Benjamin Garcia
rollan
Evan Lewis
rollin
Adam Howard
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Ethan Jenkins
The Brotherhood of Steel They have vertibirds,the Prydwen and Liberty Prime mkII They also have the ability to mass produce power armors,laser weapons and vertibirds
Joshua Jenkins
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Adrian Bennett
NCR armor is made out of leather, it's as useless a football gear against bullets. Too bad NCRcucks are too cowardly and stupid to actually hit a target
Joseph Moore
Basically a can of tuna if they run out of bullets or the enemy comes to close range.
Landon Morris
Do they uses crowbars?
Nathaniel Barnes
Roll
Christopher Richardson
ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE HOOOHOOO HOOHOO HOOHOO HOOHOO
Colton Rodriguez
Doubble crufication. That must be a lot of fun.
Ayden Robinson
Coin flip.
Sebastian Gomez
Remember that ranger who is surprised at the fact that the Legion managed to get to Nipton and razed it to the ground without anyone NCR having a clue?