IMPORTANT If you want to make a game, understand that we have several going already, DO NOT, try to make a big game, it will only end up with frustration, stalling and AI's.
It's much better to make smaller games and only have a few big matches, you will get more and BETTER practice in.
Current happenings.
ATTACK OF THE AI's M8deathmatch, had some of its key power players go AI due to poodles with way to much ass. Currently all nations are taking territory but losing it as well due to global enchantments and the AI's ability to sense WEAKNESS
THE GREAT STALLING OF AGARTHA Agartha has stalled in the MA game "thisoneworks" apparently mimicking their golems they have become deathly still and now nations rush to kill them to have turns that don't take 24 hours.
THE 7 YEAR PEACE In 8EAforbigguysonly 4U many nations are swollen with pent up aggression ready to burst out all over some unsuspecting nation. Arco and Lanka finally finishing a 5 year war which if to be summarized would be two nations to afraid to risk their armies leading to the weirdest Guerilla tactics ever witnessed.
IF YOU WANT TO LEARN Good fucking luck, this game has a dedicated but smallish player base, the majority of helpful forum posts are located on Desura which is going bankrupt which means only about half of threads are useful. Moddb has useful information as well as Steam discussion.
Everyone is eager to answer any questions as we are starved for something to talk about while we wait for turns. Any experienced players are encouraged to go to the dom 4 wiki, and help contribute information as it is incredibly barren of relevant info which isn't already in the instructions.
Hey. Host for thisoneworks here. You may have received two turn files for turn 8. Do the earlier one so it doesn't mark you as a staler. Not sure why this happened.
Jayden Wilson
BUMP THE FUCKING THREAD YOU QUEERS
Levi Nguyen
Can I have a link to the working torrent?
Joseph Morales
Fug, I'll back and do the first one. Why is it that it sent out 2x turns?
Isaiah Gonzalez
I would if I had it, someone will probably link it tomorrow. Though I think the torrent was from 2014-15 so don't use it for practice for multiplayer until you know the differences in the versions.
Angel Murphy
Do your turns faggots.
Also, I'd like to play another LA game so I can be Mongolians.
Noah Ward
I asked in the other thread about this but didn't check it before the thread died. Saw this craft in Dom inspector, is it possible to actually enter other planes like you can in CoE?
Andrew Evans
No, the extra planar things like abyss/void are through events, mostly assassination events if I'm not mistaken. Go play LA Rlyeh if you want a crash course on fighting shit in the void. That being said I like some of the things the Swedes did in CoE and extra planar things are for sure one of them, but I lack the ambition to see how they would fit into a hypothetical dominions 5
Elijah Collins
Actually the spells Claws of Kokytos and Infernal Prison send you to other planes. Each turn you have a chance to return or else you have to fight some demons. This book makes it more likely you will return.
On a side note Im the creator of the Magic Enhanced and Im doing some bugfixing and balance tweaking for the next release. I can see there are a few games here using it and it would be really helpful to see how things are being used in actual games, particularly the late game. You can leave feedback on the thread on Dom4mods, or just send me the relevant turn files to magicenhancedturns (at) gmail.com
Kayden Williams
I'm no expert on the game but people on the /vg/ thread on 4chan were bitching that with Magic Enhanced Lemuria is OP in LA.
Levi Watson
Shouldn't thisoneworks be rolled back seems the admin manually hosted the turn because he didn't want to wait for agartha and accidentally did it twice or something fucked up because everyone stalled last time.
Seems i initially misblamed the admin, something else must have fucked up since i have the 7th turn file and have an email confirming that i sent it in.
Also sent in Ulm for the L8TermAbortion.
Sent in Ulm
Jackson Moore
I never forced host or anything. It just sent two turn 8's. At first I downloaded the later one, but it said I staled when I knew I didn't. Also my mercenaries retired a month early. So, I downloaded the one that was sent earlier and it was normal. I figured this happened to others as well. So I wanted to tell everyone to do the earlier one.
Brody Phillips
Cool sent in Gath 3 SLOTS OPEN FOR L8TERMABORTION, DO NOT JOIN IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO SEND IN TURNS HOT AND FAST
Brandon Walker
Some weird turn number shittery is happening, i got a massage about stale turn on turn 9 while the stale turn shows it was supposedly turn 7 that was stale but i received 8 with no such message, and now when i send my new turn on turn 9 it rejects it saying it's wrong turn number.
Sebastian Rivera
Ok same thing just happened to me. Since Agartha has been dragging the game anyway, I may just restart the whole thing if everyone else is ok with that.
Otherwise I'll try rolling back a few turns. But I'd really rather restart it. We're not that far in and we may be able to get a new eighth player.
I guess this one doesn't work.
Daniel Cook
I can live with going back to start, even though I have had some great luck with +gold events and expansion.
Dylan Phillips
Yeah go for it
Carson Barnes
Sent it my mongol god
Ayden Campbell
*sent in
Jack Phillips
You should send an email to the llamabeast guy first so he can check out what went wrong on the server if he's interested. He might be able to fix it but we probably should just leave it and start a new one, unless he responds what to do quickly. We are not actually that many turns in, it was jut dragged out because of Agartha.
Owen Lopez
oops. Just restarted the thing.
Ayden Williams
You still got to launch it.
Jaxson Martin
Let's see if an 8th wants to join to replace agartha.
Tien Chi how is it not only are you the last to send in your turn everytime WHEN you are one of superpowers? I saw that ROS spam you used on CTIS.
Leo Nelson
Smelly lizards and pig giants are one hundred years too early to challenge grorious and most high China.
I work late and it takes an hour or two to do a turn.
Luke Rodriguez
No excruses, shamefur disrpray! 100 yearu of misfortiono on your famiru!
I don't really care but if I don't turn bully I'll die
Anthony Watson
What did you actually cast in those battles where some mages wrecked huge armies?
Brandon James
Probably RoS. Arco was using it against me as well, which is why I made the OP image.
Lincoln Carter
Llamaserver fucked up 8EAforbigguysonly again
We need to start hosting our own pirate-friendly PBEM games
Angel Harris
Its not fucked up, its processing. The server is the one which processes turns and battles, the larger the game and the longer it has gone on the more files and more computing. Its probably in que right now, give it an half an hour.
Kevin Cook
It's 4 hours behind schedule though. I think it failed to host, i have seen that happen before, you should tell llamabeast.
Evan Taylor
I'm not the host, however postponing hosting, then clicking host now should work. If it doesn't and everyone stalls we can roll it back.
Ethan Gutierrez
I clicked a few games and it seems that ours is not the only one stuck on processing turns. I will postpone hosting by what 24 hours or so.
Gavin Lee
L8Night also stuck.
Alexander Baker
Yeah force hosting is doing nothing, we will just have to wait for a fix.
Hudson Russell
The whole server is down you newfags, this happens often and once lasted several days.
Once it does go up again, give it another hour as it starts crunching through all the queued games.
Jaxon Williams
Looks like turns are moving again. Also, reminder that thisoneworks still has slots open. I'll start it tomorrow afternoon regardless, though.
Nice I like that map. I will probably make the game as soon as one finishes, but right now anymore games will probably end up with someone going AI or stalling.
Lincoln Murphy
Also I will be making a new rule for the games I host, unless specified rushing is not allowed.
It takes days to get a game going and people expect to have a good game, not be rushed by some meme loving faggot. Our disciples game was fucking ruined because Pelagia starts with a fucking KELP FORTRESS IN HIS CAP.
Meaning its incredibly easy to just rush many civs and it ends up with someone getting a huge advantage and steam rolling the game.
Rushing in any game that I host that isn't specified will result in the game being started from the beginning, the offending players pretender deleted and the game restarting.
Mason Reed
Has also happened in out new EA game. Fucking meme elves rushed vanheim then went AI when they couldn't finish it. Now Vanheim I can only guess has a fucked started, we have TWO people AI in less then 20 turns.
Fucking annoying as shit.
Jeremiah Johnson
Please give opinions on whether or not I'm a rule loving faggot with terrible ideas.
To respond even more to myself, my justification is this.
To take Pelagia as an example. They have 150 defense for their home fort. Kelp Fortresses have no upgrades so there isn't shit you can do about it.
So in MP if you play with another water nation your expansion will be incredibly gimped as you build an army JUST for fort defense, and even if you were able to keep a force from taking the castle, you still have to deal with being unable to make new units.
I GET wanting to win, I GET not caring about some whiny faggot discussing rushing.
However we don't have a large community here, players come and go because after losing a few games people like to take breaks.
But, if we don't TRY to make shit fun for newer players or people in general this community will die like every other Holla Forums community.
There isn't many games out there like Dom 4 I think this game can appeal to quite a few faggots out there, but I want people to at least have the opportunity to learn the game, and some things you can only learn in multi.
Once we all become meta gaming faggots like 4chaims /domg/ I wouldn't care about rushing, but to me it seems like a lot of more experienced players fucking up less experienced players solely because they can and because they want to win.
Again I don't care if you fuck up some scrub, but at least give them the opportunity to do something, because no fucking scrub is going to have a gameplan to get level 3-4 spells out the gate as soon as possible to make a optimum army build.
Again all of this could be me being a butthurt faggot about the LA game, however I'm still pretty pissed off about how the Disciples game went and it became less playing the game and more being picked off one by one by someone who has half the map under their control.
Henry Ramirez
Instead of being so strict with it, do one of the following:
Make a game where pelagia is forbidden. Sort of like how we sometimes forbid ermor in MA games when we want a break from dealing with skelespam.
Make "no rushing" a rule and post it as a game message to remind people if, and only if pelagia joins.
Choose a sea nation and make a pact with your neighbors to gimp pelagia early on.
Carson Perez
thisoneworks has started, get those turns in lads.
Brody Baker
now i have to disable one of the balanced and enriching warhammer races if i want to use others
Jose Bennett
Disable elves.
Kevin Barnes
way ahead of you
Landon Gonzalez
Favorite maps?
Aaron Campbell
Oh, Gath. I thought you said you were the baddest.
Colton Robinson
When?
Jayden Wilson
When you made the game. You said "only the baddest can join" implying you are the baddest.
Josiah Evans
Oh well I guess I was wrong. ;_;
Asher Morris
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Nolan Hughes
Man, one of my first games of dom 3 was on that map. I played Ryleh and pretty much ran everything. But the fucking jap/onis slapped my shit so hard I never finished it.
Levi Allen
Its so small but it has something for everyone, if you have sailing you can take that little island. If you need wastes there are plenty in the middle. Nice forests for forest nations, and even swamps in upper left. Water nations can lap the entire map in a few turns making them manuevarble like a water nation should.
Then the chokepoints are great if you can snag them early, but they can also be countered pretty easily.
Valanis would be next but many of the areas are meh, and can be real shit if you start on them. The caverns are nice though, which there were more maps with caverns.
Leo Allen
posting dank OC
Joseph Barnes
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Hunter Nguyen
Sorta, but not really. It's like and said, getting a dude sent to another plane is the result of an event or a spell. Every turn they're in there one of three things can happen: either they find their way out into a random territory, they have to fight a bunch of shit like demons or void critters, or nothing at all. That book skews the dice rolls in favor of getting out.
What the other anons didn't mention though is that it's virtually never a problem. Generally speaking, the kind of things that you would want to send to hell, namely thugs or SCs, can usually fight their way out without any trouble so at best it becomes an inconvenience that lasts a couple of turns. The spells are too expensive and too much trouble to be worth casting on average assholes, so nobody is going to bother. Beyond that, the events that can send dudes to a plane of hell are exceedingly rare so there's really no reason to prepare for it unless you know somebody is going to try to pull that shit on you.
Hexawyr and Biddyn are beautiful maps, though hexawyr is a bit too big for my tastes. It doesn't even look that big until you actually try it out either. I've always liked Galadia and some of the other maps by the same author, but I'm a bit boring when it comes to maps.
Dylan Rodriguez
You have a chance to get horrors and even the most well equipped SC can get fucked by a strong horror.
Lucas Jackson
How Popular is R'lyeh here? Or water nations in particular? I might join the next game you guys make. Not even interestested in getting out of the water. Just let me chill in the sea and make everyone absolutely insane with 600 Astral Perls + Imprint Souls. If you think that's a bad spell, wait until I crap 20 priests in your dominion and assfuck you with 20 temples in a single turn. R'lyeh kills dominion fast as shit.
Daniel Anderson
The problem with LA Rlyeh is that an AI is almost better as only an AI has the patience to micromanage 50+ insane commanders with redundant commands in case someone goes insane right before you attack.
The current mod magic enhanced provides some flexibility however by allowing you to craft an item which gives void sanity. I can't think of a game where Rlyeh has been a threat however that could always change once someone gets enough experience with them, if it wasn't for the micromanagement I would play LA Rlyeh as the freespawn can be great.
Leo Cox
Also Burden of time doesn't work on every civ, if you are playing MA there a few nations which have long lived units.
Parker Peterson
Nah, no Burden. I've tried many things with R'lyeh, but I mostly roleplay because they're fun like that. But sometimes I'll get lucky with magic sites and hoard a bunch of gems. Every single time that happens, it opens up a wonderfull combo for me. See, R'lyeh is easy enough to defend underwater. Especially with their "archers" that just scream at people until they keel over. The main problem is taking to the land.
For that, you hoard 600 Astral perls. Convert from other gems too. Now, you NEED 24 mages capable of casting Imprint Souls. The bare minimum this worked with was 20 mages and 500 gems.
The other thing about R'lyeh is the low upkeep cost. I mean, there's cheapers Civ's, but R'lyeh is cheap enough. Hoard a lotta gold while you're building up your gems too.
The third important detail: your scales are semi-important, paths of magic for your pretender are less important. It's the dominion that matters. Should be at least 8. I play with 9, 10 for shits and giggles.
The combo goes as following: send spies, scry, anything to spy on the landmasses. Locate poorly defended provinces (the one's people don't usually care about). Now, on a single turn, cast 24 Imprint Souls. Some will not survive or be crazy and can't act next turn. Usually, 18-20 survive. That's 18-20 new provinces for you each with a priest commander. Have them build temples (hence, why you need a lotta gold). Then have them pray like mad. Eh
The AI usually starts purging them, but takes a long time. It often moves it's main army to the purge and I can even take a fort or two if I'm positionally correct. It doesn't even matter. By the time they did so, and their dominion is already kinda weak (remember, you should have dominion 9), you're ready to recast another 24 Imprint Souls. Repeat as desired until you eclipse their dominion and they die from it.
Angel Hall
t. lizardmen
John Lee
That's a good strat for single, I don't know how well it will work in multi.
Only suggestion is that you take dom 8 on large maps as you will have the province numbers to get 10 dom with temples anyway.
Also magic scales would make all of that easier for research and reduced magic resistance.
Angel Butler
I love ryleh.
I am unbelievably shit at the game though so I never get anywhere with them or anyone else for that matter. I also find myself wishing regular infantry and their equipment mattered more.
Alexander Clark
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Angel Ward
Holy fuck ITS INSANE FOR BLOOD
Ryder Morales
Absolute madman!
Grayson Gutierrez
We'll all be insane by the time this is through.
Brody Murphy
I can only hope so
Lucas Sullivan
mad hybrids are pretty good
Gabriel Collins
wat
Hunter Murphy
His ~20 PD did all the work, the elephant didn't actually fight anyone
John Flores
Shhh lets us pretend.
Jaxon Hall
but it was a crazy elephant
Landon Hill
The fuck is this game or thing?
Hudson King
Buy from Steam or Pirate? I would like to think I'm autistic enough for this game.
Bentley Reyes
It's a game thing where you set up sprite armies and watch them fight.
Parker Thomas
You give your armies and mages a script to read off of then watch as they fuck everything up. Occasionally they even manage to fuck up the enemy's shit too. Also, skeletons and assorted giant monsters.
Colton Green
Its a game about insane elephants.
If you can find a torrent go for it, I would advise you to try before you buy.
The main attraction to this game at least for me is the nation roster which is fucking insane, the different ages which change gameplay quite a bit. The nations which change thematically and mechanically in different ages. The incredibly in depth magic system which can make a lowly peasant the divine hammer of their god through buffs and magical equipment.
Also there is several spells and items that can make your commander into a suicide bomber ISIS would envy.
Christopher Scott
If your peasant happens to be human though he'll be shit though.
Tyler Sullivan
bump for possible new matches
Hunter Scott
There was this image of someone who succesfully kitted out a human farmer.
Anything can be made into a decent thug given proper equipment.
Its actually a MA game I switched it because we have quite a few EA games going.
Small map room for 3 players, its will launch automatically when filled.
Andrew Howard
Let me just download the mods and whip my pretender out, then.
Jacob Jenkins
NAZCA AND CAELUM
This is looking to be a nice ass game, we just one more crazy motherfucker to join this game.
Extra points if its Xilbalba, then we can 3 nations of flyers.
Alexander Baker
OY VEY
Jordan Brooks
I was going to play as Caelum but was a few minutes late sending my god in so I figured I would take the south american knockoff instead.
Brayden Barnes
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Michael Johnson
I won't have access to a computer until Wednesday, requesting an extension for 8EAforbigguysonly and EATheFutureIsBright (I already sent in the current turns, though).
Justin Cruz
I'll be taking turns slowly today, guys, sorry. Don't get annoyed that I took one but not the other.
this is probably the most fun I've had in a game of dominions so far
Kevin Carter
slowly is better than not at all
Easton Hall
Niggggaaaaaaaaaa
Oh well maybe this will allow fuckers to send in their turns for the neglected games.
THE TEMPORALLY CONFUSED GAME, THAT THINKS ITS AN EA GAME BUT IS ACTUALLY MA. SO FAR 3 NATIONS, 2 FLYING HAVE JOINED, EXTRA POINTS IF SOMEONE IS A BAD ENOUGH MOFO TO BE XIBALBA AND HAVE NOTHING BUT FLIER FOR LAND NATIONS
Easton Allen
Jesus fucking christ someone cap this off already.
Caleb Ross
WE'RE ROLLIN, GET THOSE TURNS IN FAGS
Ryan Garcia
About time.
Noah Campbell
MACHAKA WERE WAITING FOR YOU STOP OPERATING ON NIGGER TIME
Jason Morris
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Ian Turner
NEW TURN
Gabriel James
Stop trying to hoard time, schlomo. We tried that already
I tried version 2.0, 1.11 and 1.1 and 1.0 and they all give me bad neighbor errors that crash my game.
Oliver Jenkins
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Nolan Bailey
Sorry my neighbors dog got out and bit me and my dog.
Jaxson Gray
What a little bastard, you doing alright user?
Isaac Thompson
Yeah, it bit my hand and knee a bit, and my dog got nipped in his mouth.
The other dog is really fucked up though, my dog was tearing into that ass.
Jaxon Richardson
goddamnit
Zachary Garcia
Glad to hear it, that'll teach him to bite off more than he can chew.
Jayden Thomas
Some shit is wrong on L8termabortion so I will change map and to were it works.
Andrew Foster
Thanks fam, gave me a reason to finally pull Snek back out of the recycle bin.
Aiden Campbell
Works just fine, ready to pillage some shit
Caleb Collins
throat singing intensifies
Christopher Young
How do I actually do well in this game? I'm never any good at strategy games but this one takes the cake. Should I be pumping out a particular set of units every turn? Should I be making armies of nothing but sacred units and blesses? Is formation really important? Should I manufacture tier 0 crafts en masse to outfit my commanders? I'd appreciate a few pointers.
Joshua Young
I like the masonic reference, this guy does his research!
Gavin Miller
Depends
The attraction of this game at least for me is the variety of strats you can employ. You can have a strategy to win by early expansion with troops. You can focus on building thugs or super combatants which are single unit armies.
Bless units depend on the nation, every nation has sacred however only some are worth spending points on major blesses. For example a nation like Lanka which has almost every summon as sacred benefits quite a bit from bless, meanwhile Ulm with only one sacred benefits less.
Formation is usually only important for multiplayer, and it does help depending on the situation. Line formation is useful as the late game troops will be used mostly as a way to destroy cheap units like undead and protect your mages. Skirmish is useful for archers as the wider they are the wider their firing spread who knows you may luck out and have a arrow hit an enemy mage. Double line is great for spear units, spears have a chance to keep any enemy back keeping them out of range of attack while attacking themselves. This works well with double line as units with pikes or other long spears can hit as well.
This is highly situational, tier 0 crafts largely serve as hard counters for enemy spells, like Wrath of gods. Which is a global enchantment that rains lightning bolts anywhere and can kill commanders.
At level 0 in construction you can build ring of tamed lightning granted you have a mage in air 1. This negates any damage from lightning leaving your commander protected.
Blacksteel helms are protectiona against the infamous RoS which is a spell which afflicts the whole battlefield the helmets increase the chances of low health mages from being Allahu Ahkbar.
I have more advice however it hurts to type so maybe someone else can give you some additional advice.
Adam Garcia
I gotta sleep, sorry EANothingBad.
Logan Hernandez
Good Morning LETS GET THOSE TURNS IN
Landon Hall
I'm back earlier than I expected, thanks for the extension.
Hudson Carter
wew just took an assload of turns
Justin Hernandez
same always nice to come home make a drink and see that you have four different turns in.
Asher Barnes
Man fuck this shit, is anyone else noticing a huge increase in magical sites that cause disease?
Carson Morgan
I don't think you can find a doom horror in the void. Almost anything else is a pushover short of getting soulslayed which is something you would be more worried about in the first place since you're far more likely to get slapped with that than a planar shift.
Also I don't think there's an item that helps you return from the void any easier. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the item only applies to kokytos and hell which are pretty ezpz.
Hunter Nguyen
IF YOU STALE, YOU'RE A FAGGOT. REMEMBER THAN ONE CAELUM
Andrew Sullivan
I'm pretty sure I've encountered those cat horrors there. I could be mistaken, greather otherness's are fucked though especially because they occasionaly travel in packs arisen
Juan Morales
Are the turns in this game quick or does it have the Civilization V problem of you having to wait for the other nations to do their move? Thinking about buying it. Would you recommend it to someone who liked Victoria II?
Ayden Reed
Turns are simultaneous. So all turns play out at the same time
Chase Collins
Turns are resolved simultaneously. When everyone is done giving orders the turn is processed so you only wait if somebody is taking longer.
This only applies when playing what we call "blitz" where all players are connected simultaneously like a usual multiplayer game. Dominions games are more commonly PBEM play by e-mail, where players send in their turns to the host, llamaserver in our case, by email and usually take only 1 or 2 turns per day so a complete game can take months of real time.
Hunter Sullivan
Don't expect any depth in regards to diplomacy or trade. Especially in single player. This game is all about the battles.
Thomas Powell
Trade and diplomacy happen all the time though. It just there is no mechanics relating to diplomacy.
Zachary Brooks
WEW E W
Lucas Morgan
You had me panicking there for a minute nigger. Its been so long since I had a turn I was thinking I was Abysia.
Ian Brooks
FUCKING T'IEN CH'I
Jacob Evans
Sorry its me Lanka holding up the turn, I'll be home in 30 minutes.
Colton Cox
I wasn't complaining about turns, I was complaining about him slaughtering me. ;_;
Alexander Wilson
I hope you enjoy your care package Lanka.
Elijah Clark
China wirr grow rarger.
Thanks for your assassin's hat, Lanka
Charles Davis
You mean you don't have an mages summoning iron pigs, with 20 others casting gift of reason, while another 20 produce horror helms for your army of fear inducing piggies.
Yeah, me neither.
Henry Reyes
Patala, you're a cool dude.
Jaxson Ortiz
Abysia sent in the first turn late too, maybe he thought he has 48h for the second too, anyway if he doesn't send it the turn this time we should probably wait for a sub or at least have someone set it to AI if not just restart the whole thing.
Jaxson Sanchez
I'm going to force host when its just Abysia until I find someone who can set AI.
If anyone needs a third party to set a game to AI use Steam's discussion to request help, usually some queer there will do it.
Josiah Mitchell
Things are about to get much cooler, R'lyeh.
Oliver Lee
Wew I wish IllFraud would fix commanders.
Randomly without any fucking reason a commander will run forward and attack the enemy which causes the army to rout as he gets hurt and runs off.
==WHY THE FUCK IS THIS HAPPENING CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN IT==?
Thomas Parker
Did you set him to stay behind troops
Easton Sullivan
Yeah and put his ass behind them far away. I've had this happen several times.
They either stay behind the line, however this time he ran up and attacked heavy infantry along. Didn't even get a wound just took 4 damage then fucking routed.
Eli Thompson
Disappointed I didn't get my hat back.
Aaron Morgan
Is EATheFutureIsBright broken? It seems to think it's still turn 32 when I got a .trn for turn 33. Do we just re-use turn 32 or does the admin need to fix it himself?
Parker Ramirez
Fuck if I know I will screw around with it and get it to work, ignore emails until I get it fixed.
Logan Garcia
Also you absolutely have to delete you 2h file when I do this rollback as it will confuse Llama server.
Justin Bell
Welp guys I think I have utterly fucked our EA game.
Noah Williams
How utterly fucked are we talking?
Joseph Young
I'd also like to know
Colton Wilson
According to the other end of the link to the game in OP, which I only just now checked, fucked into non-existence. I'd say that's pretty utterly fucked.
Wyatt Richardson
People have had luck contacting llama beast and getting the game salvaged I will try that.
Thinking back just force hosting it and having everyone stall would of been perferrable.
Parker Flores
I was doing great in EATheFutureIsBright ;_;
William Adams
Yeah me too, this fucking sucks, a shitty week just got shittier.
Connor Edwards
Just got wrong turn error for l8night. Seems llamaserver thinks it's still on turn 43.
Landon Lopez
This happened to EATheFutureIsBright Guys make sure you are deleting your 2h files when you send them in DO NOT HAVE DOM 4 OVERWRITE. Also whatever you do, do not rollback. Create a forum account and contact llamabeast at their forums and he can probably fix it.
Lucas White
I just went into my sent folder, redownloaded my completed 2h for turn 43, and resent it. It worked. And now turn 44 is already done so I'll just resend that one too I guess.
Juan Price
TIEN CHINK Did you really waste 200+ astral pearls dispelling blasphemy? I get 200+ bloodslaves a turn, your in for a treat.
Hudson Flores
FUCK LLAMASERVER
Evan Ward
How the fuck am I supposed to play L8NightFightNight if the game wants the previous turn file?
Thomas James
Is it doing it again?
Luis Campbell
Patala sent in his so try again?
Jordan Robinson
game is on special till the 5th, spread the word. Ermor Bless
Dominic Collins
I'm going to request the turn be resent to me, but I've tried 5 different times now with no results.
Dylan White
Game is still broken on my end, maybe it works for Patala and Agartha but I can't the turn submitted.
Joseph Wright
Okay, I sent in the .2h for the last turn and that worked in the sense that the server processed it. I'm still being told that I stale turned however.
Michael Ramirez
reeee get out coles
Luis Hall
Anyone played conquest of elysium?
Luke Green
Yeah, its pretty neat. I wish Dom4 had some of the tracks on it's soundtrack.
Levi Johnson
I heard the fourth one was shit. Which one is the best?
Christian Reyes
Weird. Host was gath. Not sure if he'd be willing to roll back turns or contact llama or something. Are we retarded or has llamaserver been having more hiccups than usual?
Kevin Murphy
Yeah something screwy is happening. Last turn I submitted was 44 and now it's saying it's on 46.
Jayden Butler
I don't know what to do. When this happened with EATheFutureIsBright I forced hosted it. Everyone stalled and the turns were still 1 back. Then I rolled it back a turn and it dissapeared. I will make a forum account and get in touch with someone that can help.
Camden Collins
Fourth is the latest and greatest, it adds multiple planes, more factions, a couple hundred new units, new battle systems etc.
Josiah Ross
this mod is hilarious being able to use artillery and tanks. if only guns could resemble guns and not have a lobbed stone throw as the attack
Kayden Baker
Oh shit, it seems that the current L8NightFightNight turn actually worked out. Get on it Patala
Brayden Cruz
Did it work without saying you staled? I was waiting. I'll take my turns though.
Julian Collins
Yeah it worked, I meant to get more done, but I had thought the turn wouldn't work so I just did the bare minimum of casting some shit and shuffling armies around.
Joseph Foster
Damn Abysia in L8TermAbortion, can anyone set it to AI ?
Ryan Hernandez
I've been neglectful I'll do for L8TermAbortion what I've done for the MA game, I'll just force host. Unless you know someone who will owns the game who isn't involved in it, who will give you their email so I can put it in, so they receive the turn so they can then set themselves to AI.
Hunter Diaz
(checked) Float Cat Horrors aren't so bad. The nastiest part about them is their little bit of damage reversal, but it's low enough that most thugs or SCs aren't going to even blink.
A Greater Otherness might suck depending on the chassis you have in there. Trample is always a bitch and Othernesses have nearly unroutable morale, a butt ton of health, and good resistances. Even still, they don't have much protection which means a decently strong dude will fuck them up pretty quick; hopefully quicker than they can get fucked up.
I would be more concerned about encountering a Vastness. They teleport so they close distances immediately, they've got big damage reversal, and paralyzing attacks. Those things will ruin your day, but the chances of actually running into one is incredibly low.
But all this is pointless talk because I'm fairly certain there isn't a way to send someone into the void like there is with hell and cold hell. You have to either deliberately go to the void yourself through R'lyeh's voidgate or get sent there through some random event.
Pic exactly related but I thought I should share some Dominions images.
Adam Nguyen
Pic NOT exactly related
Jose Clark
I thought there was a spell rlyeh had where they go through the dreams and either assassinate or pull into the void.
Zachary Ross
The assassination technically goes through the void, but it's not really sending them to the void it's just using the void as the battleground. You're fighting a 1v1 in their dreams, not sending them to fend for themselves against horrors.
Jacob Morris
What a missed opportunity to do something cool.
Oliver Fisher
There's a lot of things in this game you can say that about.
Logan Bailey
You can always just give an assassin the dimensional rod and have him smack people with it for that effect, though you'd have to deal with the guy going insane.
James King
I guess that's true, but that's a really ridiculous way to go about it. And if you've got somebody willing to just throw artifacts like that on assassins, you probably have bigger things to worry about.
Cooper Wood
In Magic Enhanced you can send Hound of Tindalos assassins that can banish targets to the Void
Jackson Evans
Bump to stay alive. I hate seeing dominions threads die.
Xavier Allen
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Brayden Foster
You could have prevented this.
Aaron Gomez
Damn, I forgot to send a guy into that. Could have sworn that I did but I'll get you next time greekfag
Camden Johnson
I finished my first two AI games, I didn't expect to sit down and play for 5 hours straight but it just happened.
Benjamin Edwards
Congrats lad. Did you play a pirated copy? If you did like it the game is on sale for a great (-60%) discount on steam Yeah I know, but you never need to have steam open to play the game, just run it from the .exe. Unless you need to update but that doesn't happen very often.
Camden Powell
I actually bought it at 50% off a year or so ago, I've just now got around to playing it. I've stopped using steam, it's good to know I don't need to start it to run the game.
Jose Gonzalez
Sometimes it gets uppity and asks you to enter your CD key, but I've only had that happen to me a few times.
Matthew Brown
Can we get a new EA game set up?
Jackson Lopez
I'm not going to be the first to choose my nation though since I'm the host I'll give a bit of time for other anons to go about it before I send my god in. llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=8EAnosurvivors
Ethan Parker
Sent in Marverni.
Cameron Martin
Joined as Yomi.
Jayden Reed
This is the theme for L8NightFightNIght
Jason Moore
One more and we're good to go, two more would be ideal however.
Ryder Kelly
Can I get an extenstion for EA Bigguysonly, I will be in meetings all day today and wont be able to send my turn in until after 4. So I need only a 6-12 hour extension.
Isaiah Thomas
I postponed for 12 hours, lucky for you I decided to check this morning.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
Just a reminder, I'm looking for balance feedback on Magic Enhanced (particularly the late game options). In particular the Globals or anything that seemed too spammable or not worth the gems.
You can comment here or send turn files to magicenhancedturns(at)gmail.com.
Jose Clark
EA TC's Petition Zhurong might be a bit overpriced. I didn't test it a ton, but in the current game I'm in Flames From the Sky has been more effective and costs 20 less gems.
Also, not sure if this was a bug and has been fixed, but casting The Stars Are Right as MA Rlyeh didn't give me Cthulhu. It never spawned. And it seems a little weird to me that friendly provinces get attacked by void creatures. Considering they only attack in your dominion, the Rlyeh player gets hurt the most by the spell.
Zachary Rogers
Yeah R'lyeh got fucked by the spell, LMAO. Every other turn he had his cap taken by a random event.
Blood Harvest needs tweaking, its too OP. I'm saying that as someone who is using it in my Lanka game. The dom boost is cool, the extra blood magic can be lowered a bit so far almost all my blood mages that have been around have gone from lvl 1 blood to lvl 2-4 The income boost should just outright go, growth on top of %50 more income ends up with me rolling in more gold then I know what to do with.
I would say keep the Dom boost, lower blood boosting frequency, remove income bonus and if possible greatly increase the free spawn. With throne of moon +1 growth, blood fecundity +2 growth and blood harvest +1 growth in a nation per event I still rarely get more then 5 free spawn a turn, and even then they come 1 every 4 turns and almost never consistently.
Dominic Gutierrez
If you guys want to start now I can find a different map since we may have to wait a while for a 6th player.
Oliver Myers
Since we had a guy join as Sauro I'm starting the match.
Ryder Lewis
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Nolan Scott
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Cooper Martin
FUCKING SAURO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
IT'S THE FIRST TURN
Colton Garcia
8EAforbigguysonly is finished. Good game, was the first one I've won apart from matches where I stomped on new players like an asshole.
Fought 6/9 nations (everyone other than Machaka, Kailasa, and Arco, who died before I met them). All defensive wars, which I thought was funny.
Daniel Green
And my pretender. Works surprisingly well considering how fucking stupid it is.
Brayden James
I'm sorry I was finishing with Tien Chink I kicked his ass up and down the field and then the nigger decides to claim the throne because his ass was getting handed to him.
Fucking pathetic.
Liam Ramirez
Lol, so you sit on the throne thinking you can finish me with military, only for me to get off Blasphemy and kick your ass despite having 200+ demons of fire.
So you claim the throne GG, I'm going to chalk this up as a win for me.
Evan Hill
Fuck host you had one job
Gabriel Richardson
Nevermind I'm a fucking moron
Luke Johnson
Mate, take a look at the graphs. I was ahead of you by every metric other than your army size which was largely chaff.
The little circled blip was all that I lost in that last battle, which was the first real loss I took the entire game.
I killed 3X the number of troops you did, and was technically the winner. If the mage I scripted to cast Firestorm had actually done so (still not sure why he didn't), your entire army would have died as many of your mages are weak to fire and you didn't cast any fire resist spells.
Thomas Wright
I challenge you to produce a single battle which you won against an actual army. Produce it, you can what ifs, but your army of skellies and ghost were decimated, every thug you had other then the two doggos was destroyed.
I had several of your castle disabled from sieges by less then one unit for 10 turns.
Also you would of lost inevitably from Blasphemy which you couldn't dispel. Other then thrones you lost in every regard and of course you will out do me as far as income and gems go as you owned 3/4ths the map from other searching sites yet you couldn't take a province from me other then the caves.
Again, you win technically but you got fucked up lil nigga.
Ethan Anderson
I didn't bother posting dominion as you can only do 5 images in a single post.
You were beating me there, but it doesn't really matter as you weren't in any position to domkill me.
Carson Rogers
Ladies we both know who the real winner of that match was.
Nicholas Bell
I was winning there because blasphemy + blood harvest makes my dominion impossible to reduce. Meanwhile given time you would of been dom killed alone by blasphemy.
Carter Hernandez
I'm dissapointed our thugs never got to face off. One time they were a square away from each other but all my ganas kept taking the spot.
Brody Gutierrez
Fuck didn't mean to sage, I'm severely inebriated
Bentley Carter
Didn't matter. What killed my dudes in that last battle was the fatigue from rigor mortis.
Freespawn, didn't matter. Was on Niefel cleanup duty until you attacked, was no great loss.
Also leftovers from cleaning up Niefel. Didn't matter.
Also didn't matter. I had 6 times the number of forts you sieged, but I wasn't recruiting anything from most of them anyways. Didn't need recruitable troops as my armies were mostly summons and freespawn and I didn't need non-cap mages anymore as their paths suck and I had all 8/9's in every type of research other than blood magic.
Also, any one of those single units you left on my forts could have been cleared by one Master of the Dead spending a single death gem to summon 20 sacreds. I just didn't need to actually clear them so I didn't bother.
Not really, I'll admit it fucking spooked me the first time, seeing 20 assassinations attempts in a single turn on my mages. But the few times it actually killed mages they were Masters of the Dead/Masters of the Way, who as I said were useless by that point of the game. My cap mages were relatively unharmed. It also didn't really have much impact on my dominion. If you look at the graph you'll see my dominion was still steadily increasing while yours was going down.
I had more provinces, more research, more forts, more gems, better armies, and had just fought off nearly every other nation.
I could have, but didn't need to. Throne victory is quicker than slogging through taking all your territory.
Asher Bailey
Oh, and I should say you were the best enemy I had. Everyone other than you and Ulm (who was fucking nuts in a good way, trying to rush a bless-heavy nation year one and nearly succeeding) collapsed without much challenge.
No hard feelings, I hope.
Don't worry Niefel, you were useless moe.
Luke Brooks
Fire Storm is a battlefield enchantment, storm cancels it out. Rigor mortis would of gotten you sure, but the morale of my troops was near unbreakable and the constant thunder strikes would of killed you.
Dragon Girl is a unique hero and she got Horror marked and most likely died later, no? I'm just guessing as you could of used her later yet she was nowhere to be seen.
Every troop matters, troops that I had from my war with arco were converted to be troops against you, the game is a war of economics, you waste money and ultimately the moves you made turns ago are negated from lack of care.
Quite a bit of defensive statements, lets reiterate, none of these mattered yet you didn't win in a single battle other then those sacred puppies taking out one of my davanas?
At the very end because you won the game, so the very last turn is a sudden dip, blood harvest makes my dom raise by two in every province that I own making blasphemy impossible to kill my dom. Meanwhile 100% blasphemy will kill all dom otherwise, even with priests, I have fucked up many single player games by casting it and dying as well despite priest priesting.
Yet you couldn't beat me in a battle.
You owned that province for several turns yet delayed taking the throne, most likely you thought you could take my cap, didn't know what to do with a diseased army in caverns, after I cast 3 bloody seconds for the citadel, attacked, realized despite my army routing yours was decimated while my could regroup, so you decided to take the throne.
You won the game, but I put you on your ass and I enjoy you needing to rush to win other then deal with my superior niggery.
Leo Green
Oooh, you're right. That might be where it went.
Eh, rigor mortis was much more deadly. The N9 bless on my troops + their high base HP + gift of health would have kept them alive long after your mages fatigued out. Fatigue really was the game changer as it let your weak chaff take out my normally extremely strong triple-blessed sacreds.
She didn't get horrormarked, she was sitting on 75 doing nothing. Her paths aren't particularly impressive compared to my cap mages and she doesn't have any Astral so I didn't have much use for her. I sent her with the Niefel cleanup army to cast frost fend.
Just gotta disagree, honestly. The skeletons were completely useless for anything other than killing PD and breaking forts. The ghosts could have been useless but your death mages would have made short work of them anyways.
They really didn't matter. If you look at the battle report earlier, the only non-cap units I used were a few communion slave masters of the Way and some archers left over from the early game.
I was actually trying to take out your thugs by shuffling mages around, but fort mechanics meant they never got the chance to fight you other than the dogs. Which weren't actually sacred by the way, which I think is a bug.
Meanwhile 100% blasphemy will kill all dom otherwise, even with priests, I have fucked up many single player games by casting it and dying as well despite priest priesting. Even ignoring the bit at the end, you'll still see my dominion was increasing while yours was going down. I don't know if that would have continued, but I wasn't in any immediate danger.
That army I had on my eastern front (your western) probably would have beaten the army you had in the area as it actually had nature mages to cast Relief and shit. But I probably would have taken a lot of losses so it was easier to just sit in my fort and shell your army with Flames From the Sky.
Which army is this? The one on the eastern front was mostly healed already thanks to Faery Queens + Cure All Elixers. The one I lost to you was still fairly diseased but it wasn't a huge deal as my troops have lots of HP and you didn't get any of my important mages.
I actually just wanted to see how my army would do against yours, didn't even realize your cap was there. I had planned on ending the game this turn anyways, had even told Abysia about it.
Easton Allen
useful, rather. Their un-resistable magic attack makes them good at killing thugs.
Kevin Scott
I'm a faggot for triple posting but I just noticed the end of my post got eaten.
I think I would've still won a proper war, but yeah, it would have been a huge fucking pain in the ass holding your land when you had that many troops and thugs.
Tyler Sanchez
Ouch, yeah Stars are Right was bugged for MA R'lyeh in MagicEnhanced 1.1. Should be fixed in 1.2 though. I'll look at Petition Zhurong too, thanks.
Hmmm, Blood boosting should be pretty rare, I'll take a look at that.
It's worth mentioning that Lanka is pretty much the best case for Blood Harvest - most blood nations run Growth and Order, so gaining Growth and Turmoil gains them little and costs them unrest and gold. I'll tone down the income events though, make them rarer outside of the fall season. The freespawn villagers are shitty enough that upping the spawn rate should be fine. Thanks for the feedback.
What do you think of Blaspemy? Is it too much of a win condition for Blood nations? I've been thinking about upping the cost, or else having it eat blood slaves from your stock each turn it remains.
Joshua Thompson
Blasphemy is fine, its like M.A.D., as Lanka reanimating acts as preaching so you have to take the time to fully equip them or have back ups. Provided those don't die.
Then of course with a spell like Blood Harvest or something that similiary raises your dom, you will eventually be a victim to your own enchant.
Also the cost is fine, a spell like that and everyone is trying to dispel it, so regardless if someone is going to cast it they are going to use at least 300+ blood slaves.
Robert Powell
L8TermAbortion is starting to get a bit cramped. also bump
Jeremiah Young
At least Fagbysia is under siege.
Jason Thompson
Lets make this a productive day for EA8nosurvivors lads
Also in eanothingbadwillhappen Caelum is under siege, so maybe those games will both speed up once the stalers are dead
Connor Reyes
I want to get into this game but everything is so overwhelming.
Jaxon Reyes
It's really not once you start experimenting, like DF or any 4x game. There's not that much to do outside of advance planning; 1. Commander/troop recruitment 2. Research 3. Mercenaries 4. Battle orders 5. Commander abilities (rituals, spells etc)
Caleb Cooper
If you want, we could do a noobs MP game - I've not tried multiplayer yet myself.
Anthony Morgan
Yea let me start one up I'll be Lanka :^)
Aaron Flores
I wouldn't mind taking an arseblasting tbh, only way to learn.
Nicholas Morris
What formations should I use? What spells should I research? Where should I spread the forts? Should I search for gems or have mages in the fights? The questions goes on and on. Not even Space Empires series made me this paralyzed.
Hunter Howard
Most of these questions can be answered by experimenting in single player for a bit. But, generally, you're relying on spells or blesses to give you the edge in battles.
So, you're forming armies in such a way that they are either creating a buffer to protect your mages, or charging the enemy's weak point, or any combination, depending on what your overall plan is. Having an overall plan and knowing what to research will come with experience, but a good beginners strat I think is to take a nation with strong sacreds, like bandar, get a nature or death bless, and just slice through all the AI's armies while trying out different spells.
Definitely always have mages in your army. And space them so they are spread out.
Colton Howard
Use Double line formation for any troop with spears and decent armor
Hudson Williams
It depends. It depends. It depends.
Formations for troops is something you can work out in SP. For spells, while it might seem like a dumb advice, if you want to leverage spells early research what your mages can cast. You don't have to know all spells but look through the spells and find the ones that your recruitables can cast that's like 4 or below in a school. Things like fireball and thunderstrike.
Cameron Nguyen
HAPPY MONDAY HEATHENS
Ryan Fisher
Wew so it turns out swanherds are actually incredibly useful.
Hudson Carter
What for, Siege fodder?
Cooper Sullivan
Are any games currently open for a player to join?
Leo Hall
They screen armies from scouts, after several turns you can have hundreds which makes small elite armies like Ys undetectable. Along with stellar mages recruitable making scrying difficult.
They are probably the hardest to detect as far as none stealthy units.
Bentley Carter
Not at the moment, I'm hosting a few now and don't really want to host another but if someone else wanted to take the plunge I'd join.
Me and my friend are on a team, we want to do a 2v2 EA disciple game. Do any of you weenies want to get BTFO by us? :^)
Cameron Sanchez
Caelum is now gone
Yeah sure, If someone wants to be the Abysia to my Xilbalba I have sent a pretender in with scales that will be perfect for them.
Daniel Anderson
WILL YOU FAGGOTS SEND IN YOUR TURN, I DON'T WANT A REPEAT OF LAST TIME WHERE THE GAMES FIZZLE OUT AND EVERYONE STALLS
Cooper Rivera
I wouldn't normally play Abysia but I'll make an exception for you user.
Jace Evans
The game is now started with a 36 hour turn timer. Good luck.
Aaron Anderson
A bunch of turns have gone out SO LETS GET IN THOSE TURNS.
Caleb Ramirez
ok
Dominic Sanchez
fug
Robert Allen
It's pretty out there ,but at least I was able to take my cave.
Hudson Bennett
CoE4 is now up on the Humble Store apparently, is it any good? Didn't want to get it on Steam but I'd be willing to grab it now if it's worth playing.
Sebastian Long
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David Perry
Its tough as nails, fucking confusing and unbalanced. I've had a ton of fun with it, the multiple planes are great, and Agartha is a lot of fun.
Lincoln Taylor
We can be shitty together, user.
Blake Campbell
Welp, guess I'll buy it then.
Jacob Young
Warlock best class Necromancer is my favorite however
Jayden Gutierrez
So far I'm crushing shit with the Troll King, though I'm guessing this class/nation is weak later on in the game despite roflstomping everything early on.
Adam Foster
Mum can get you dragons and shit but you are better suited towards winning early.
Jonathan Taylor
I just attacked a big group of pygmies assuming they'd be unable to scratch him and he got raped by blowpipes, rip.
Ryan Anderson
ohohohohoho
John Watson
Welp Mark deleted my posts by I.P for shitposting. Been playing a bit but for some reason if I set CoE4 to fullscreen battles move at snails pace even if I set the battle speed to maximum. Couldn't seem to find anything by searching either, you have any idea what the issue is?
Playing on Linux.
Isaac Baker
I was wondering why they were removed, damn kike. Anyway, try disabling the battle background or just maybe using borderless windowed mode would help.
Grayson Walker
Seems disabling grid or terrain fixes it.
CoE seems a lot rougher around the edges than Dominions, the UI is somehow worse, can't re-watch battles, can't arrange troops, etc.
Christopher Clark
Same thing happened to me a couple weeks ago during the 4am controversy. I lost a lot of quality banter because of that fat kike.
Ryder Anderson
Sorry for the delay got drunk as shit with my family and ended passing out instead of going home and sending in my turns. pls bully
Easton Fisher
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Hudson Brooks
Bumping with more Greenlandic snow chimp memes; please don't let this thread die.
Jack Ramirez
you done fucked up
Nathan Long
It's going to die regardless because its approaching 400 posts. Don't worry user I'll be hear waiting to make the next bread.
Camden Collins
bump
Kevin Clark
Holy fuck Nazca, its seems the RNG has it out for both of us.
My fucking Hall of Fame Hero Knight, got fucking abducted to hell. Then right after killing on of my champions you're Bane Lord gets killed my undead indi attack.
David Morgan
I'm a retard because I made a regeneration ring for the bane lord, but forgot to replace that red ruby thing he had. Probably would have survived if he was regenerating.
Aaron Jenkins
Is any special setup required for a direct connect network game or do I just forward whichever port I plan to use and give the people connecting my I.P?
Adrian Wright
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Levi Cook
You can use a command line email client and a batch file/script to automate it. That's how I do it I would have gone mad otherwise.