After 16 years...

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You do realize that these are two opposite things.

It would be nice to see XYAB buttons on mouse.

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The angle your hand comes in at counter acts that effect

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hang yourself

HOL UP

you can't press a, what are you talking about?

See. This guy gets it.
It's just like when Super Mario 64 DS set the standard for Touchscreen analogue sticks in so many handheld 3D platformers.

For birds maybe.

All you have to do is make two Half-A-presses, and you'll have pressed A once.
It's simple math.

Casuals get off my fucking board.

I want to mod/make a mouse with an analog stick built into the side but I'm not sure how to go about it. I'll figure it out though.

Which direction does S move in that set up?

NO I AM KING NIGGER

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you press S to jump

Wouldn't the obvious way to go about it be replacing the left button with the analog stick, like a trackball? Pressing the stick would substitute clicking.

Of course, the real trouble is the driver.

Walk

That would just be weird to hold and your index finger isn't going to control an analog stick as well as your thumb.
And yeah, issue of the driver is what I'm worried about if I attempt to mod it. And it's not like mice are well documented enough to mod or are open source. Well, as far as I know.

outside of it being retarded for moving, it would be really hard and require beastly coordination. Consider that an analog stick is technically a looped line (though the line could be more like a circle, few games utilize the varying intensity, and even if they did, why would you go slower than the maximum?) and so to use two at once would be to essentially use two sliders, or axes. And while there are the different intensities of movement on a stick, they function as a way to accelerate, not move. Compare that to a single mouse that acts as an object on a 2d plane. It does not accelerate, it simply moves (which is why mouse is better for fps) across the 2d plane and therefore to control 2 mice is to manage 4 axes.

Four Axis would be tricky if they had to interact with each other, so don't even have them do that.
The left mouse strictyl determines the players position on the map. It doesn't account for the direction they face or any walls or floors or barriers. Just move the mouse up and to the right, and you're in the top right corner of the map.

The only problem there the map size. It works great for smaller FPS maps. But playing a game like Oblivion would take some very precise mouse movement.

Using two mice for this is retarded but

Walking and creeping around for stealth for one thing.
Adjusting speed to intercept something a the right time without stopping for another.

And? WASD is already a second set of axes. WS is y2 and AD is x2. Difference is there's no gradient and you need to use your other hand to use them.

You're acting like acceleration doesn't take place with a mouse. Acceleration is change in velocity over time. You create a change in acceleration with the mouse with a change in acceleration of your hand, and you deliberately do it all the time. The great control over acceleration is why mice are great for aiming.

I just wanted to point those things out.

Fuck, that was a leftover when I thought you were responding to me with the analog stick thing

Because that's a shitty idea!

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how the fuck do you use a keyboard user, do you just rest your palm on the spacebar and use your thumbs?

Why would you want two mices? M+K is top tier for FPS and RTS. Everything else, just use a controller.

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Fuck that, when will I finally get pressure sensitive keyboards so I can ditch analogue sticks for good?

That's how you know a game is good

Kill yourself

I don't want to be part of the mob, but…
No really. Kill yourself.

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isn't mouse an acronym for manually-operated user-select equipemtn so I don't think you were wrong here.

Have you ever tried to control a mouse with your left hand? It's not easy.

No.

I just looked it up and "mouses" and "mice" are both correct

How do you expect me to play porn games, then?

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user, you're an absolute retard.

That's fucking retarded.

Pressure sensitive WASD keys are the obvious development.

you're a fag

you're right

my benis is big enough that i can't just use 1 hand so i have to masturbate with both

Pretty rude tbh

I wish PC gaming controllers were obtuse as fuck so normalfags would fuck off.

I bet you don't even ADADADAD to throw off enemy aim, faggot. Analog sticks will NEVER beat keyboard controls for fast-paced movement, especially when that movement includes advanced movement mechanics like bunnyhopping.

Spamming A and D faster than you can with an analog stick won't ever move you far enough to actually make a difference, user. Unless the normal movement speed is absurdly fast

literally subhuman

Gee autismos, i bet you also play driving games with kb+m

somebody repost that "a n a l o g u e" keyboard

Rag Doll Kung Fu actually supports two mouses. For two players, but on the same machine.

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you sicken me

But I want all the movement in one hand so I can do far more complicated inputs with my left hand.
Stretching your hand off wasd to do things sucks dick.

It has 3 triggers and another button underneath. but yeah it does suck and QA is shit. I returned 2 of those in a row and then gave up analog left hand.

Know many mouse operated porn games? They are rare for a reason.

Definitely the best way to play Saints Row 2, makes drivebys actually viable without stopping your car or wasting all your bullets.

some kind of system that uses analog movement and mouse aiming would be neat, but WASD works fine, i just like analog movement a little better since it can be pressure sensitive

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It's also the only way to play GTA5.

Because gamers are a fucking minority.

If I ran a hardware factory, I'd laugh you out of the building. It can't be the standard when regular fucking Helens from HR are the standard PC mouse users

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He never said anything about using his thumb.

The thumb in your picture indicates that it's a left hand, but it's coming in at an angle as if it's a right hand. The left hand would approach the keyboard from the other direction, unless you put your keyboard way the fuck out to your left side, but you'd need a big desk for that and it would be shit for typing. If you want WASD to not be retarded then you need to get a keyboard where W is actually above the S key and not shifted over toward the A's side.

are you moving in 4 dimensions or some shit

Why is this stupid thread still alive…

why is this stupid you still alive?

To make fun of even more stupid you!

rude