Would you agree to say that the chief purpose of social ownership of the means of production is the reduction (and ultimately elimination) of what is usually thought of as "work" — that is unrewarding, menial toil individuals engage in solely because they have to?
Basically, is one of capitalism's worst aspects the lack of incentive for its ruling class to shorten working hours even as the forces of production radically improve?
Asher Rogers
Yes.
Brandon Turner
No.
Brody Barnes
Maybe.
Brayden Brooks
Communism: a stateless, classless society based on free access to the means of production. Usually implies full automation. Also known as late stage socialism.
at least that's how I've come to understand it. feel free to tell me if I'm wrong.
Sebastian Clark
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Asher Gutierrez
Also yes
Ryan Mitchell
Yup, that's the ultimate goal. But what I meant to ask is, should work reduction be given precedence as soon as socialism is established? Should the abolition of labor be considered not merely as an end goal but also as a mean, that is as a permanent programmatic priority of socialism?
Tyler Hernandez
While socialism can help to achieve that, that is not what socialism is about. The class struggle must be put to an end, the exploitation of the proletariat through means of private ownership of the means of production must end. THAT is what socialism is about.
Adam Bailey
Nah, it's basically motivated by moralfaggotry. People try to hide the fact that they are motivated by a post-Christian universalist morality, but that's really all it is. Just the death throes of Faustian civilization.