This Russia meme needs to die

Not so much a revolution as a controlled change of management from failed brand (Putin & his crew) to another bunch of Jew-worshiping cucks.

Jews really need to die though.

Only the Donbass kept the artifical "ukainian" oligarch state semi-alive. Now the Soviet-created zombie is just getting eaten by worms.

It wont be controlled Russia has been dying since 1917. The population and land losses have been massive and everytime a new country breaks away they fucking hate Russia because Moscow is full of cunts.

Everyone is starving to death in Donbas

Russia is doing good at resisting globalism, honestly new world order would most likely be completed by now if not for those bydlos.
You hate it or not, Russia is important.

I doubt (((powers that be))) would allow uncontrolled collapse of world's 2nd nuclear power.

There will probably be pro-(((Western))) government in Moscow, but it'll have little control over large swathes of the country.

At least muslim gooks and mountain niggers will get rekt.

Reminder cossacks come from Ukraine and Russians are LARPers. Reminder Rurik came from Kiev and Russians are LARPers. Reminder Puskin was a nigger.

Implying China isnt going to make a power play to set up vassal states or annex easter Russia. Western Russia will be just like the collapse of the USSR.

Spotted another clueless burger who takes RT at face value.

Russia is, and always (since 1920's at least) was part of (((Globalism))). Early Russian commies floated all the concepts you see today - abolition of race and family, for example. "In a future, we'll all be a lovely shade of mocha" is a paraphrase of Russian Jewish Communist.

It was all rolled back before Cold War, because Jews in power needed a Golem that could stand up.

Zaporozhian Cossacks best Cossacks

Chinks are economically annexing Russia as we speak. Putin is notorious cuck for Asiatics, be they Muslims or Chinese.

But chinks are hillariously (or shall I say Hillary-ously) incompetent, they'll be thrown out by force.

It's not very schizophrenic, there simply is no good political side to take. The kike-infiltrated empires clash, and thousands of white people die. So much of ZOG's more publicly shitty agenda has been opposed by Russia over the years that many westerners forget how deeply kikes are embedded in Moscow as well, and ultimately how much damaging shit Russia has pulled over the centuries.

No one is shitting on the average Russian any more than we're shitting on other Europeans or Americans when we discuss the EU or US government actions respectively. Yet lots of faggots and RIDF shills get triggered the second someone reminds this board to keep track of where things are really standing.

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FACTS ABOUT RUSSIA

1) Slavic Russians are below replacement rate
2) Muslim regions have their own elite, that is semi-independent and gets paid by Moscow in order to keep them from chimping out. Guess what happens if Moscow runs out of gibs?
3) holohoax exposure was recently made a felony. It was paraphrased as 'questioning the history of WW2', but we all know what it is really about
4) All Nationalists (Demushkin, Belov, (((Marcienkevich))) aka Tesak (Falchion)) who disagreed with Putin's policy were framed by intelligence and put into jail
5) Holla Forums is banned by RosComPozor - a government organ that can order ISPs to restrict access to any website… and ISPs bear the costs
6) Richest men of Russia are British or Swiss tax residents, also are usually Muslims (Usmanov) or Jews (Abramovich, Rothenbergs).

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The USSR was portrayed as evil in Hollywood movie so that makes them good? Communist are good?
The famous if you're against x, you're for y.

TYPICAL TRICKS SCHLOMO

Frankly, USSR was no more "evil" than current Weimerica.

It was still pretty fucking bad.

No. It killed 60 million. Ever read 1984? You need to learn anything about the USSR before you talk about it.

Is it still in recession? Only according to CNN. -)

The "ukraine" have lower standards of living and is more corrupted than Albania. The "ukraine" is backed by NATO, the European Union, US fedgov and "human rights groups".

Theerfore, I want the "ukraine" to exist no more.

I fucking lived in USSR.

Your jew-controlled America is crashing the White race with no survivors.

You are forgetting the fact that the Ukraine annexation was a response to western backed regime change. I guess it sucks for them that they are forced to be a satellite state one way or the other but that was an entirely reasonable response to a Soros color revolution, if there was a Soros client state right next to Russia the neocohen agenda would be advanced a lot faster.

Ukrainian SSR was founded when, exactly? -)

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They literally use the holodomore the exact same way jews uses the holocaust, that should tell you something.

Wew lad RIDF needs to cut down on the vodka a little.

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Who could possibly be behind this post? Do RIDF and JIDF use the same employees?

RIDF owner is probably some fat Jew or Muslim, who pays their basement dwelling virgins less than one shekel per day (in Russian funbux, of course)

Germany didn't exist until 1871
Russia has existed since the 1500's

I wonder how much of that is due to alcohol, something like 50+ percent of deaths of males 17 to 54 in Russia is from alcohol abuse and it cuts life expectancy by 17 years average. Getting slavs to not drink is impossible but it wouldn't hurt to not be complete niggers about drinking, probably get their birthrates up to replacement without all those preventable deaths.

You are counting Kiev Russ and other proto-Russian states as Russia but not the holy Roman Empire as Germany?

t.non-German nor Ruskie

German language was spoken where Germany is today.

HRE was German. Germany was still there, but it was politically divided.

Russia was also politically divided between several petty and not-so-petty kingdoms. (Great Duchy of Lithuania, Tsardom of Moscow, Novgorodian and Pskovian republics, Grand Principality of Tver)

Nation states are a fairly recent idea, after all.

Dubs of truth. Although, record levels of drinking and drug abuse are a result of depressing economical situation, IMO. There is little unemployment in Russia, but most jobs are working for the government for an equivalent of nigger gibs with little prospect for employment.

Kievan Rus' collapsed in 13th century.

1500's are rise of the Muscovite Tsardom. But unification of Russia wasn't complete until 17th century (although, late "unification" was mostly border disputes with Poland over cities that predate both kingdoms and could be counted either way)

You are correct, I got my timeline and Tsardoms mixed up a bit.

nope, the tsardom of Russia was established in 1547.
The closest thing to a unified germany before 1871 was the Frankish Empire, which was so radically different from what we would call german now it barely even counts.

the HRE was saxon, prussian, pomeranian, austrian, burgundian, livonian, hessian, bavarian, etc.
the concept of a unified german culture didn't come about until the enlightenment.

I'm not trying to shill for Russia or DnC germans or anything, I'm just reminding people that cultures used to be a lot less monolithic and more diverse before the modern, centralized states of the industrial era.

What is Hochdeutsch?

What language, alongside Latin, was spoken in Europe's heartlands?

What language did Goethe write in?

Correct.

How about the Austrian Empire though? It didn't have all the Germanic peoples in it, but it was a Germanic State. Until the Austro-Prussian War it was the strongest Germanic state, before Napoleon dissolved the HRE they likely had political influence there, and power projection.

Nice try, Chaim.

Here's how Novorossiya was colonized:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya

It wasn't 'Ukrainian' till after the Russian Revolution 1917.

Hochdeutsch can refer to the "high german languages" as well as a "standard german language"
also Goethe lived during the enlightenment

the Austrian empire is possibly the worst example of a cultural state one could have chosen

Ukrainian nationalism was literally invented poles who spoke Ukrainian, it's like Pakistan in that it didn't exist until someone "invented" it. (unless you count Ruthenia or Kievan Rus, which are so radically different from Ukraine and Ukrainian culture it barely counts)

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Ukraine is less of a country than Belgium.

Khazaria never ever

Enlightenment began two centuries before German Empire was established.

You're retarded if you're seriously trying to argue that there were no Germans before 1800's.

Well, they thought they were Germans, but they didn't exist.

There's also people who like Trump even though he sucks jewish cock, I still prefer Russian shills over those faggots.

I agree. I been following this guy on Insta for the longest time. He and his buddies are Ukrainian military and extremely pro white. I can't read ukraine or whatever so any translation on his page would be welcome.

@xgadzillax

Those are German tribes, all part of the German culture and race
Nice lefty propaganda

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I visited Russia a few weeks ago its in a pretty terrible recession.

Opps wrong person meant for

Which parts of Russia did you go to?

Moscow is baseline Western degeneracy on steroids. Same goes for St. Petersburg.

Smaller cities and towns are nicer, but they're depressed as fuck. Had been since fall of the Soviet Union, although commies were just propping them with government gibs.

The HRE was a unified Germany like it or not Russia boo. Saying it wasnt means the second reich wasnt a unified German state either.

Smaller towns and cities in Russia are not just second world tier they are third world tier. Moscow and St. Petersburg are the only modern parts of the country they also have almost the entire population of Russia in them so yeah they are the biggest representation of real Russian culture.

Ukraine was taken by russia because the jews wanted to use that to control and block all oil/gas trade between russia and europe. Putin got it first. That is literally all that there is to it, anything else is propaganda from one side or another.

There's only been two Russian shills in this thread so far, maybe this place is actually getting better.

They're third world tier in a sense of poverty.

There is, however, little danger of being mugged to death by a pack of niggers. It's mostly just depressing to see once glorious civilization in decay before your very eyes.

Claim on 'housing almost entire population' is wrong, however. Moscow has around 10, 15 million if you count the suburbs, St. Petersburg another 5-10. Total Russian population is 140 mil, including minorities.

I feel about as safe being a none Russia in Russia as I do walking around Detroit at night. Moscow has 36 million people look it up

I was talking about smaller towns.

Streets of Moscow are a hellscape, day or night. You have to be on lookout for Islamic terror shenanigans, wild dogs and gopniks, as well as drivers who OD'd on meth and vodka and policemen looking for a shake-down.

But let's say in Vladimir you're unlikely to encounter anybody more dangerous than a couple of decrepit hobos. Everybody who had so much a spark of ambition already left or died.

If you are trying to sell me on Russia being a good place you are not succeeding

Except that there is evidence to support Holodomor.

Russia is still very much a shithole and if anyone really believes that Putin or Russia is some great savior of the West he should get his head checked.

Russia is by no means a good place.

But it's not the same as slums of India or Chinese hive. It's basically a post-apocalyptic country, a rotting corpse, not a shitskin infested hellhole (yet, cuck Putin is working on that overtime).

Don't listen to him, he's a shill. Take a look how he can't even sage properly.

To preface: I have my suspicions about Putin, given that he was a (((KGB))) agent and that he is half-Jew. However, I do believe that he is a leader by pure authoritarian standards, not by any National Socialist or white nationalist standards. With that out of the way, on to the counter-arguments.

First off, the Russians are a great big old mix of Slav, Norse, Finno-Ugric, Turk, Mongol and Caucasian (as in the region, not the US census term). Second off, claims don't matter as long as you have the appropriate force to back them up.

That's a fucking horrible analogy, lemme tell you what really happened. After the massive buttfucking of almost everyone in Russia by the Mongols and Turks, the Tsardom of Muscovy/Russia decides to expand into the Ukraina (literally Russian for 'frontier'), but they keep getting BTFO by the marauding slavers of the Crimean Turks. So the Tsar basically decides to colonize it slowly, with several lines of watchtowers and Cossacks used to prevent the Turks from BTFOing everyone. Eventually, it's almost completely colonized by MUSCOVITES and Cossacks. In between, there's also the Poles and Lithuanians who colonize the western part of the Ukraine.

TL;DR: You're fucking stupid, you hohol.

that history of Ukraine was completely incorrect. The central of Rus authority and the Rurik dynasty was in kiev then the mongols came and sacked kiev and drove the Rurik to Moscow. Then the Ukraine was taken over the the Lithuanians when they BTFO the mongols. Then integrated into Poland with the commonwealth. If you are going to comment you should have even a basic understand of the history of a place or not talk at all.

It's ironic that you're bashing other user's understanding of history, because you haven't got one yourself

Polite sage for shitposting

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Ukraine#Early_history

You're the wrong who's wrong hohol. At the beginning of the 20th century, ethnic Russians made up nearly half of almost all the Ukraine. The Ukraine actually became majority Ukrainian by the time of the early Soviet Union, you dumbfuck.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus'
you dont even have a basic grasp of Russian, Rus or Ukrainian history

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik_dynasty
Rurik is the ruling dynasty of Russia and Rurik blood is what makes one the rightful Roman emperor. The line died in the 1600's and started the time of great troubles in Russia. You have no knowledge even basic knowledge of Russian history.

Filtered. This is shareblue.

Subhuman hohols like you make me wish Generalplan Ost and the Holodomor happened.

you didnt even read any of it

im sorry you are wrong about everything and dont know anything about eastern europe

But I'm literally not, you subhuman hohol, provide actual proofs or fuck off.

It's enough. Go back to where you came from.

Look at this faggot. Race is a social construct, right?

Are you retarded? For the Donbass region to matter for trade the pipeline would need to go through Russia.

You have no idea about Russia. The Central Asians and Chechens are as criminal as it gets. You can find alot of shit in local news, the state media hides it though. Rapes and robberies are very high. I read about a robbery where the whole family got wiped out without a reason.

Nobody cares about your imperialism, Ivan. It doesn't matter what name a certain region had in the past or who occupied it. The only thing that matters is that the Ukrainian people always lived there. They are related to White Russians but they are not the same. They differ genetically and thus express different notions about the world and this goes far back into the past, i.e. the free people of Novgorod who got crushed by the Muscovy (a conglomerate of different tribes, ergo the antithesis of nationalism). If a particular people consideres itself as a folk with its own aspirations, they have absolutely the right to be sovereign per NS doctrine to which we all here subscribe (I hope). From the moment that the spirit of a people begins to show itself be it hundreds of years ago or now for that matter, you don't have any claim on them.

Of course Ukraine has a lower standard of living. Do you think that they'll become prosperous while their pro-Russian puppet government made lucrative deals with Russian oligarchs all the time? Or that Communism didn't leave any traces behind? You're laughable. Involving a country that is so much smaller and weaker into a war, thus draining their resources and then claiming they're in a recession… Right, mabye you shouldn't have escalated the situation with your bussed-in anti-Maidan protesters, Antifa thugs basically. But now it's too late, the movement got co-opted during this mess.

Fuck Ukraine. They've barely ever been a country, and their leadership is a bunch of kikes.

? I just did read a book nigger. Rurik is a royal line that started in Kiev was driven north to Moscow by the mongols and would later unify all the Rus. Rus is a shared identity between Belorussians Russians and Ukrainians. What are you even trying to claim any more?

So basically like every other white country…

Generalplan Ost and the Holodomor happened.

Is ukranians are Turks Russians are literal Mongolians. Which would make sense

Ukraine has a nationalist movement that is very well aware of the Der Ewige Juden.

Problem is, war with Russian-backed (((Rebels))) is used to justify giving more powers to current kike government and crack down on nationalists.

Poroshenko and Putin are on the same team - team Jew.

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If you do not put >> before your reply, he gets no money.

Can you shits stop fighting already? Both of you are slavs, you are brothers. You're not supposed to fight your own kind.

The entire history of Slavdom is fighting brother wars, then getting our shit kicked in, then uniting briefly to kick some non-Slavs in the butt, then going back to vodka gulping and fighting each other.

Yes, I thought about this for a long time. After this conflict is over, all pro-active young nationalists will be dead and there won't be any Maidans in both Ukraine and Russia. Only armchair-nationalists will remain who watch state media the whole day. Simply look at the main Russian political talkshow on their main channel. Half of the people there are jewish.

I have some Russian people at my work place. They're always so patriotic and shit. Then I always ask them why they're not living in their own country then. These fuckers will vote for parties for the sole reason of promising better relations with Russia. They don't give a fuck if it's letist and pro-immigration at all. They don't give a fuck about their children who won't ever go back to Russia. This pseudo-patriotism is ingrained into them mixed with some Soviet nostalgia.

Wtf? Dude with yellow bandana has awesome camo, can barely see him… but yellow bandana.

What matters is defeating the jew. Why do you think they focus so hard on subverting anarchists? Without rule of law, the kikes get purged.

lol

Russian (((TV))) is owned by the state, which is owned by kikes and "ex"-commie party official. Pozner, First Channel anchor, is virtually a NYC-born Jew.

Fortunately, the same dynamics that enabled alt-right also enabled partial deconstruction of traditional media stranglehold in Russia, meaning alternatives have a chance - but but we don't get much of an option.

Civnat Navalny is as best as we get. Also, I know that expat feel. I have devised an experimental heuristic:

- Longer expat hadn't been to Russia, more patriotic he gets.

Somebody fresh off the plane will remember Muslim-ridden Moscow suburbs, stale air and fat kikes in black Volgas with armed guard enough to appreciate whatever residual liberty West offers.

Somebody who'd been there long enough will let negative memories fade away and end up with the same romanticized view of Russia as Anglin-tier shitheads who unironically consider RT an unbiased source.

Russia did her best to create such a mess that this specimen could rise to power. But I'm not suprised. Russia was always eager to help. It's historical experience for the whole of Europe.

Other than that, Medwedew is not better. And in regards to botox king Putin, it would have been interesting to see his unaltered face. With older people it's easier to guess their ethnicity.

There's nothing ITT you haven't said countless times already in threads that usually have nothing to do with Russia. Debunked shit, false narratives, globalist pro-EU views, baseless claims on various topics. It seems clear to me what you hate the most is how important Russia's role has been in countering the arrogance of western (((globalists))). Considering what the alternative would be, it's a very necessary and overall positive role.

Ask Italy if they'd rather have a stable Libya with Gaddafi still in power. (((They))) keep talking about stability but they're the ones attempting color revolutions and regime change all the over the globe. If anyone thinks things are bad at the moment, imagine if Russia and China didn't use their veto at the UNSC concerning Syria and other (((conflicts)))?

Stay mad, Soviet cuck. Hating your Eurasian vision doesn't mean that one prefers Western globalism. Your primitive D&C strawman arguments are out-dated. Maybe they still work on Russian state media but not here. Everyone knows that all white country are flooded with illegals, and Russia is not an exception.

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Daily Reminder that the reason the Clintons say Trump is a Russian agent is because they're Chinese agents.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China
jew and china are synonymous, especially after the (((communists))) took over.

True, but not outwardly saying Clinton didn't have Jewish interests behind her but instead "Chinese" isn't the full story.

We already know the kike and mudslime connections. I'm counter-memeing the russian shit, user.
Every time the kikes start squawking about "MUH RUSSIANS" just belt out "MUH CHINESE"

Fucking hell, Russia's currency is anchored in its energy exports, that's why Syria is important for them. no wonder the thread got anchored.

WTF is this gay shit? Putin kisses Jew ass just like Trump and practically every other leader. I guess you'll worship literally anyone that gives you even a cunt-hair of anything anti-gay, since you seem to be on about that.

OP is decent, which is why the thread got anchored. I just stopped by to mention that /polk/ still exists for those who want a bit more discussion than is allowed here.

This.