Trump as the Economic Collapse Fall Guy

This is why i find all the effort put into bike lock guy so baffling. We should have that level of intel on all these fuckers that are literally trying to destroy us.

It's almost as if we're being steered to chase shadows rather than ever settle and focus on any real direct resistance to the jewish problem

Good job replying to yourself before the proxy kicked in, genius. Menaschem is getting the promotion this time.

Don't we already know where the rothschilds live though? In their big mansions in europe and america with high fucking security?

The only way to take them out is kill one or two that like to go into public like the rotschild jesus(forgot his name) fellow and david rothschild, the (((bow-tie wearing economist)))

then what? the rest go into hiding and only a well armed and organized group could take them out.

I prefer to put more value on concrete things than symbolical things.

So far Trump was a net positive to the world

Say that again when ISPs start blocking websites and throttling your speed.

No question he will make Greater isreal project come far sooner than anyone ever wanted.
That may make you happy, but this is Holla Forums and you're not really supposed to be on here

Wording of this seems off, maby my paranoid levels are getting too dam high. But what you doin over there shlomo?

was it trump or his cabinet who did that?

No he's a major loss for Whites. He's done nothing of positively for the white majority while succeeding in only inciting hatred towards White people and cucking for Israel. Trump does nothing but create an illision of European power in America allowing Jews to scapegoat Whites for their crimes. All according to the (((plan)))

This!

First of all, please stop going to ZH. They have been controlled op ever since they were bought by CBS(?) and ixnayed all talk of the ewjays. (Trav777 did nothing wrong!!!)
You and they are probably getting their info from a contributor:
redefininggod.com/understanding-the-nwo-strategy/
Not saying it's untrue, just that ZH is only good if you're hyper-analyzing stock graphs and stuff.

This snarky sentence starter smacks an awful lot of plebbit.

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Even getting one beaner deported is more than you'll ever accomplish for whites in your entire life, so doesn't that make you even worse than Trump?

Sure thing Kike boy

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So now everyone's back on the Trump train.
Certainly good for jews, yet not one good thing for whites who now are neutralised and sitting pretty thinking for some reason they have won, while everything is controlled by jews, all working against us.

Ok now i know you are a heeb, get the fuck out you kike faggot.

The true financial horror story is the EU. EU has southern countries that have year after year less than 2% growth while their debt is around 120% GDP. These are doomed countries that are being kept alive by ECB loans and other country loans at 0% interest. Everything is being kept in tact by the 0% interest lines and politicians are pretending that everything is fine. It's not if shit collapses the result would be that amounts need to be paid that are so gigantic nobody can really pay them without the ECB printing so much money that inflation makes the Euro worthless. Pension funds are being hazed to finance the failed project of the shared currency, politicians pretend this is not happening but it's what is happening. .

The ECB screwed over its population in the way they tried to solve the crisis in 2008 and it set up the EU for eventual doom. A nation that is above 100% debt and has less than 2% growth over multiple years is doomed to fail. That would be almost the entirity of south Europe. Nobody can save that.

Indeed this will happen with the Euro. Pension funds will be empty, people will be struck by poverty. In case you might wonder why are you telling these doom and gloom stories, in the past we also had crisis happen?. In the past European countries kept below the 60% of GDP debt line, far below. Ever since the Reagan years every western country was thinking like well the deficit is so big it'll take care of itself, which is why things will eventually collapse if that is how you take care of complex problems. And that's what is happening. Very unpopular measures need to be taken right now by the EU to ensure that people their pensions are safe, to ensure that southern Europe won't fall over when the next crisis hits. But they are not even talking about it.

Trump's taking the US economy to the casino and I don't like it much at all.

When shit hits the fan we are gonna need dna tests or some shit to weed these kike faggots out.

it sounds kinda gay but a simple 'show us your cock' would be an easy starting point

are you talking about the 'assuming 3% growth' that the kikes were kvetching some days ago?

Unfortunately we have too many brainwashed good goys getting their kids mutilated

Trump isn't the final answer but he's still a better outcome. He's made white tribal interests somewhat acceptable amongst normies and he does attack Jewish institutions indirectly.

yeah but it provides an initial litmus test.
Like I said it's a starting point.

tfw my cock is fully intact

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you honestly believe he was "opposed"? the fact it worked out best for those that "opposed" him means otherwise. it was simple reverse psychology, everyone you oppose tells you they don't want something and you can't have it so you go ahead and give them exactly what they want. you were played… hillary was paid off with immunity to throw the election to trump, it's obvious they are the (((same team)))

until hillary et al are in jail for the countless crimes they've committed i will refuse to believe he's even close to /ourguy/, any first year law student should be able to make an open and shut case of all the laundering and collusion hillary has done. it's a fucking joke she's free.

i think he was just adding to his original comment loosen that foil up bruv

Brilliant observation user.
If I remember correctly JFK found out he could buy them out for the paltry sum of about $250 million somewhere I read that many years ago.

One other thing to consider is the derivatives market if it gets tripped there are more derivatives by a factor of X than there is total money in the world to cover them.

Trying to argue with "liberals" by using logic is like trying to argue with a drunk. "Liberals" are impervious to logic. Most "liberals" don't even have an ideology at all beyond parroting the morals that their TV told them were fashionable.
The same is true for "conservatives"

The way to argue with "liberals" or "responsible conservatives" is not to try to convince them using logic or evidence. The way to do it is by staying on point and staying on a consistent message. Repeat the same repeater phrases over and over again (not in an obnoxious way obviously, do it subtly and naturally). Keep your points simple and repeat them over and over again. That is how you communicate with lemmings.

this is true, but not a financefag so incapable of explaining the implications

How close already is Trump to getting JFKOed? Do you actually think they would let him get anywhere near abolishing the Fed?

Shemitah fags were making a big song and dance way back when, and they actually presented some compelling evidence amongst all their retardation. However, it just seemed obvious that the jew was going to delay the financial collapse until after Obama, so as not to pin it on his open borders socialism. They waited until they either had Hillary to follow it up with total control, or Trump to blame it on and forever tarnish mainstream resistance to globalism by associating it with financial disaster.

The best that Trump was ever going to do was take the USA back to the 1980s in economic terms. The good old days of pre-WW1, hell even 1950s, aren't coming back, and nobody really wants to accept that. America as a project is dead, we're all just waiting to gather up as much of her remaining resources as we can when she eventually carks it.

Mine isn't ;_;

Thanks for the chart user I knew it was a huge fucking "X" but that really puts it in perspective.

Trump Is 8 years older than I am and probably more than 8 years wiser. No president gets shot anymore that is so last century. And how come always on the richest people in the world charts the real richest people are never on them?

Hey oldfag, what do you miss most about the world of your youth that us 20-somethings will never believe existed?

I was under the impression that removing spics wasn't going to happen either now.

Making 6.00/hour summer of 74 and in 6 weeks working I had paid for a full year of college.
If you can do that today you have no need for college.

You know, I expected to be disappointed in this world based on whatever answer you gave, but I honestly didn't expect to be this upset about it

You know my dear young friend I am probably more fucking pissed about it than you are.

theguardian.com/business/live/2017/may/25/oil-price-as-opec-ministers-meeting-output-deal-business-live

I have said it for a year now and have been repeatedly banned for it he is the modern Herbert Hoover. Paving the way for a war hungry socalist.

You think maybe trump is now just set up to further discourage and discredit the white nationalists of the US?
At this point if there is a collapse the whites will be blamed for it, making all of the welfare leaches just gun for the white man for making all of this happen.

If the economy collapses though, the Jew is quite fucked. Their body guards will soon disappear, or outright murder them for their provisions.

in that event would they all be boarding planes and jumping ship via private air couriers?
at least the ones with actual money and provisions.

How else do we awaken our people and show the world our final form?

Because I'm triggered. The entire modern (((economic))) theory of judging if a country is doing well or failing is based on an infinite growth model. This is FUNDAMENTALLY UNSUSTAINABLE. It looks like a fucking pyramid scheme, the grand daddy of all pyramids. The show cannot go on forever, at some point under this kiked up system it WILL crash and burn in a way that can't be fixed.

What we currently have is an ecnomony built on shadows. Derivatives. The "Wealth" in real terms has done nothing but erode. People are poorer, manufacturing is gone, infrastructure is crumbling, you can go outside and see this and feel this. But the numbers kept rising. How? Shadow money, money built on money from fractional reserve banking and derivatives off of that. You have x real dollars, and you have 100x shadow dollars. Even then you have an additional multiplying effect, the inflation. That's how they launder all the additional money that comes out of financial shadow magic. You have x people with y needs, you have xy money. But what about all the derivatives? you have xy + b, b being the shadow money. How do you account for b? By inflation. xy money had represented g, the real goods. now you have to launder those shadow funds, so g is forced to be equal to xy+b. That fundamentally means xy is less value. That's what you have, every year the dollar erodes more and more. Inflation doesn't pop up by magic, it is a giant money laundering operation to account for all the magical money kikes made appear out of nowhere.

That's our current financial system, and my god it did not used to be this way. This is frankenstein's monster of economics. It is fundamentally unsustainable and unsound. It honestly terrifies me. It's brittle. It's fragile. It's volatile. 2008 was nothing, they applied all the QE and bailouts they could to tone 2008 down, and that's just the precursor to what could happen.

The entire system is inherently and incorrectably flawed. It is a ticking time bomb. All of this originated from jew greed to literally steal a portion of the national wealth to the tune of 3% a year. You think it's coincidence that 43% of jews are in the 1% of the wealthiest citizens?

We need to abolish the system. The kikes got theirs, and they don't care about what is coming. The debt, the housing bubbles, the unsustainable inflation, the dramatic increase in basic consumer costs like housing, food, and healthcare. It's all gotta come crashing down sooner or later because this trend is unsustainable. The strain on working class citizens is unsustainable. Everyone gets a little poorer, every year. We haven't had a real-term wage increase in over 8 years, but cost of living has skyrocketed. You're looking at the situation housing was in around 2006 and 2007, but it isn't just housing, it's personal finance in its entirety, the financial state of every citizen is at a breaking point. This will make 2008 look like a cute dip.

Trump can't fix it. He can bring the factories back, he can lower taxes, but it's just a bandaid on a hemorrhage. The fundamental structure of the financial system is unsustainable and unsound. "infinite growth" is not a term that should be in our paradigm. It is a goddamned ludicrous concept and creates an unwinnable race against oneself. It would be like taking on a massive debt and racing to pay the interest every year. We need to remove this concept, but it's so deeply engrained in the system, like a rotten foundation of a castle.

It's not like there won't be a need for academies, and tutors. And students; after we're all done with this. Keep the memory alive, that way; we might be able to do something like that again. Without the libshits.

The concept will be removed once people get into the crunch. If we don't all die. But we just have to make sure the kikes get shoah'd. Then, it's inevitable that some of us will survive.

This. Now imagine if tomorrow, like all the worthless mortgage promises from 2008 that people realized weren't worth the paper they were printed on, imagine tomorrow people realize all the derivatives wealth is worthless.

Housing mortgages (subprime mortgages) were like maybe 10% of the housing market, or in other words like 2% of the national economic wealth. Derivatives are about what, 1,000,000% of the entire real economy?

I don't even comprehend what that would look like. They'd have to put a stop button on the economy, and it's rumored in this event they would "reset" everything to a few days or a few weeks ago, and try to continue, like someone who failed the game and restarted from a save point. That's their actual plan in case this blows up like the subprime mortgages did.

It's exactly the same. You had fake wealth, shadow money, created from promises for money that did not and could not exist. Maybe the person could pay back $100 but you said they were gonna pay back $1000 and sold the mortgage at $900. It's to that scale. Derivates are like saying you have $1 B when it's actually about a penny.

At the end of the day, if that house of cards comes down, jesus fuck I can't even comprehend that. Every dollar held, every banking contract, every stock share, every mortgage, every debt contract, every option, every bond, everything was found out to actually be worthless. What would happen? I can only imagine that they won't allow it, and they'll prop the economy up (like they have been doing with bailouts and QE), or they'll hide the facts, they'll bury it with more derivatives, more promises, other coverups. They simply cannot allow this to crash at this point. Everything would stop. I don't know what they would do, my best guess if that happened would be they restore the gold standard to try and salvage the dollar, and even then they'd only be able to save maybe 20% of the economy. You would have an overnight, across the board 80% devaluation.

People's pensions would be gone. People's home value would be gone. People's salaries would be gone, the stock in their companies would be gone, optimism and contracts into the future would be gone, revenue would be gone. The entire smokeshow would blow out the window. At that's assuming any part of it could be saved, like a bag of stones falling and you trying to catch a few handfuls. The only option at that point would be either nuke the system and rebuild from scrap, or reset to an earlier time period when we still had a gold standard, or more patch-and-pray to hold the shit together like a rocketship held together with tape and chewing gum.

If people actually understood the current state of affairs, there would be a riot to end all riots in the streets. This is allowed to go on because the average normalshit doesn't comprehend what the fuck a derivative is.

Now, on topic. Will this fall on Trump's head? By the tune of how much the kikes are kvetching about Trump, how they fought him tooth and nail and are still trying like a cornered animal to take him down, Trump is clearly NOT in the kikes' interest. He is their enemy. We can infer this from the astronomic asspain and the lengths they are trying to go to remove him at any cost. Ignore ignoramuses, iconoclasts, and shills. Trump is their enemy. Not because he is hitler 2.0, but because he wants to drain the fucking swamp and pull the blanket off the shitshow the kikes have been conducting, normalshit like pizza, lugenpressing, nepotism, etc. Typical criminal shit. However, what I'm mentioning with the economy. Well, we could have just another run of the mill dip, like the 3% market tank we saw a few days ago. That might make trump look bad, but it's literally nothing.

If they let the derivatives problem drop, that's like the samson option of economics. I don't know if even kikes are that ridiculous and reckless. But if they're gonna get outed from their roost as king crow, maybe they will drag the whole tower down with them, maybe they would samson option us.

So, anons. I know many of you are accelerationist. But you do NOT want this problem to drop. It will make venezuela look like a fun summer camp. At best, you want Trump to preemptively restore a gold standard, if he even could right now. That may be why no one has tried, because at this point they'd have to either include the derivatives and shadow money into the gold standard, thus massively devaluing the currency, or they would have to admit the jig is up and all that supposed money doesn't exist, which is optimistically an 80% nuke. If somehow he can work it out to get a few steps ahead of a kike samson option, and save it before they crash it, maybe. Maybe he can, he does have an IQ of 156. I can't even take a guess at how he could accomplish that.

If it crashes, well. There won't be a bread line this time. The thought of it makes me want to piss myself.

If they throw a temper tantrum and decide to sink it and blame Trump, I don't even know what to tell you. This is an axe over his head for sure. Remember that in 1929 we were homogenous and relatively crime-free and peaceful. I really can't imagine they would samson option the entire global economy, but they very well might. If they did, I can't even tell you the implications or how to protect yourself during that. We'll have more than a couple bankers throwing themselves out of windows this time around. The economy rebounded and more after the 2008 dip. If the derivatives problem drops, well jesus fucking christ, you'd be better off thinking in terms of barter economy for a good while. You'd better pray that Trump can use the military to hold some rule of law and distribute food and essentials. It would be a national Katrina.

The entire economy is a zombie held up by financial jew magic, a walking corpse.

Seems totally plausible the way shit has been going. Could've been said for obama as well, he talked a great game then turned on a fucking dime.

Can someone please tell me that I'm wrong?

Then let it die.

Ashes and Echoes

wew

Welp lets hope trump is not a total good goy if shit goes down we have a proven solution to dealing with a collapse and recovery. Just takes a little willpower. And ovens.

This is the most important part by the way, I am convinced he's been so hardcore about this part precisely because he understands the only real way to rebuild from a collapse is through manufacturing.

So I think most of you all are focused on tactics and not the strategy. The kikes aren't stupid, and they most assuredly will have a "what then" plan for after they crash this fucking plane.

Trump would make a great fall guy for them. However, to fully and completely exploit the situation they created, they will need a complicit little commie cuck as POTUS to restrain and control the military and police forces of the USA. That is their "trump" card and anyone thinktanking this shit to it's endgame will undoubtedly come to the same conclusion.

If I were a part of their leadership, I would crash the economy at the tail-end of Trump's term — blame him for it, and then have some fucking maniacal commie like that cunt Clinton take office to implement and take advantage of the Overton Window caused by the ensuing chaos.

The dumbest thing they can do is crash this shit when there is an unsympathetic person in the white house. Because the whole point of crashing the thing is so that they can exploit the crisis and implement shit that they could NEVER in a million years get away with in a normal environment.

However, this assumes that the kikes really are able to hold this shitshow together for that long. If this house of cards comes crashing down before they're ready, then I would imagine a fair amount of fuckery to be afoot as they try to ad-hoc their end game.

Just in time for the Soros funded summer of "nationwide impeachment marches." They're building a massive powder keg and trying to set it off.

They're ready to pull the plug. You guys have 3 and a half years of Trump in power, no more. The US will get a local and international dollar, similair to RMB and local Chinese currency. There is a massive gold-grab which has been ongoing for the passed 10 years to make enough tangible wealth to support the new debt, this is not the current debt of the US but rather that which will be when they restart. Notice how the debt ceiling and all talk of that magically disappeared. There never was a debt ceiling and QE is a load of bullshit to launder more money and establish Zimbwabwe style money printing.

Can't believe you guys haven't put it together yet. Trump is going back to the gold standard. The US has no gold you say?

Crowdsourced surveillance of the Fed would not be too hard, just stay outside take pics of who is coming and going, etc.

The microscopic gold layer in the picture is worth $10. The labor costs may have been $1000, but the gold itself is not even worth scratching off.

It would seem a lot of anons here forgot that doing something like this is impossible. Fot a few reasons actually 1.) Trump has jewish ties and will never go against their wishes regardless of what you fags say 2.) the moment he begins to start the process of removing kikes is the moment he joins jfk. Not only that but it would be impossible to remove the fed and transfer their obligations without destroying the economy. The kikes built that into the system as the failsafe. If they go down everyone goes down. Theres nothing trump can (or would do) to stop them.

What's stopping Trump from just nationalizing the fed (and most of the big banks) and throwing the bankers in jail like Iceland did? Hell, whats stopping Trump from declaring martial law and forcibly seizing the assets of those kikes? You all have to remember that money has no value in and of itself. The kikes can have all of the gold in the world, all it takes is an organization more skilled than the people they pay to guard that gold to take it. Violence and blood are the only universal human currencies.

(chKeKed)
Right now the system is working although poorly and many people understand the Ponzi scheme has to end sometime, but if Trump tried that now, he'd lose the battle because the sheeple do not understand what money is and isn't.
See above.
>mfw if the (((kikes))) slip up one bit on this tremendous plate spinning act they've got going on and the system crashes, the Trump gets to come in and save the day from the evil bankers who've destroyed the economy.
you're preaching to the choir user.

Because of what i said in the post above yours. The system, if torn apart like you suggest, would bring financial ruin to america. Once you take over the fed and realize theres more mis-management than at yahoo and that leaks out to the world you bring chaos about. Not to mention that if you dont think leaks would happen about the financial state of the american empire, youre just ignorant.

IF Trump got assassinated with any deep state suspicion there'd probably be a million armed men on the steps of the Capitol within a few days.

I've often pondered that myself.

Declare the FED to be proactively illegal and any debts outstanding they've accumulated "on behalf" of the government to be illegal. Any restitution for payment would be directed back at the FED board and their shareholders. Make the kikes pay for their fucking usury. Justification is right there in the constitution delineating gold and silver as the official money system and that any debts issued in "federal reserve notes" are 1 - not issued by the treasury and therefore not legal tender; and 2 - any debts acquired since Nixon removed the gold standard are also counter to the constitution and therefore not going to be honored.

This is all, of course, secondary to the best plan of having a massive operation of every SF/SOF/TIER 1 unit in the mil find and kill every member of the bilderberg, CFR, trilateral, etc group across the entire Globe. Supported by drone strikes and a full cyber assault on the media causing a nationwide telecom blackout. All of this all at once. Like a "night of the long guns".

The capability is there, the only thing lacking is the will to do so.

We all know that isnt true lol, people still arent that ready to give up their lives yet. May 50 anons but then again they barely even showed up for protesting the fed so i doubt 50…more like 3. Theres too much to lose by going out and doing something about hoe bad things are. Normies are called normies for a reason

Trump doesn't deal in forthright and straightforward language describing the precise nature of the country's problems or the specific people and groups behind them – despite the enforced narrative that he is a plain talker.

He doesn't have anyone to blame but himself when negative narratives are built around him, though I suspect as others in this thread do, that is precisely the point.

We've already done that, no one is going to do shit to follow it up. And I don't mean the TRS meaning where they attack pro white groups then hide their website behind a sheckle barrier.

now I know why the shills are here to quell unease, because motherfuckers like this are WOKE. capped.

I would be buying bags of rice, gold and ammo right now if I haven't been hearing people say really fucking gloomy shit for the last 15 years (the approximate amount of time I've spent researching 'alternative information' on the internet). I as the OP almost put the disclaimer that zerohedge is ALWAYS a brooding, nihilistic, emo economist…it would seem to me because it's much edgier to paint a gloomy picture.
Edgy retards that are always gloomy are a thing, to which I'd say "even a broken clock is right 2 times a day," but I'd say info like that coming from zerohedge is right more like 4-5 times a day, because it is actually extremely well-informed, if looking at it from a permanently apocalyptic perpsective.

The reason to not be too worried imo is that people are fundamentally valuable as tax serfs to the power structure. That's the major reason why we don't murder civilians anymore in modern war. The system does not exist for money, the system exists for humans, even if they're debt slaves.
That being said, I don't think there's any reason to not be pessimistic about what you say, especially given the psychopathic disregard for human life and welfare that happens at the very top of these organizations. If the collapse happens, we will probably be closer to nuclear annihilation than ever before.

Jews own the banks, therefore the Central Banks, interest-rates, ability to collude and manipulate stock prices, ability to collude and manipulate inflation, politicians to set public and private policies fiscal and otherwise.

Do you really doubt that they can just veer this ship into the rocks if they want?

It didn't even happen you dipshit they don't even vote on that shit until the end of the year. And even then its just a recategorizing some bullshit Obama changed in 2015.
But keep reading those lefty techie geek sites like cracked I'm sure they'll be telling the truth and not sensationalizing everything.

Uh, user, I hate to break it to you, but that's literally how the Jew kikery operates.

I'm not spun-up (informed) on net neutrality stuff, so I can't comment on it's particulars……….but I can tell you for a fact that "reclassification" is explicitly how the ZOG fucks you. The 2ndA is the go-to quintessential example of this. The other off the top of my head is the reclassification of bank account holders to be "unsecured creditors".

There are anons here on Holla Forums that can write orders of magnitude better than I can, user f3475c is one of them.
It is what keeps me coming back and reading thread after thread after thread

Reminds me of something I have been reading recently 'Hitler's War and the War Path'. Check out David Irving anons.

He talks about Hitler and auschwitz in extreme detail. The most notable facts he provided, to me, were

Also recommended - David Cole/Stein (inb4 good jew shill), Fredrick Toben, Carlo Mattogno, J. Germar, Ernst Zundel, Michael Collins Piper

Many soviet jews didnt get circumsized to hide

I would caution you that even though there is a lot of gloom and doom, almost none of it is false information. The fundamentals of what they speak to are sound. You cannot have infinite growth in a finite world. As such, our debt based economic model is, quite literally, a ponzi scheme.

The only thing they can't speak to is WHEN, because that depends on what rabbits the Jews can keep pulling out of hats. Ideally, its easy to see that the Jews want a world similar to the Weimar Repbulic — Jews on top, everyone else serving them. White children/women as their little fuck toys, white men as nothing more than slaves. The browns/blacks kept at a manageable levels enough for them to continually use as their pet golems to keep the whites from ever regaining control. That is the status quo they want to create and maintain. And they will kill to maintain it.

The Jew Banker's little Sampson option to crash everything down around them is a last ditch resort, but part of a wide variety of contingency plans.They would much prefer the slow slide into hegemonic domination.

This plan requires them to spin multiple plates on sticks at the same time. Things like debt based economic models, geopolitical affairs (arabs, chinks, etc), managing and maintaining the public brainwashing, ensuring the 'correct' pet goyim get elected to office, importing just enough shitskins to breed out and murder the whites – but JUST not enough to cause whites to have nothing left to lose and rise up. And above all, doing this from behind a cloak of secrecy and maintaining their illusion that the kikes are 'just victims of antisemitism'. That's a tough act. For anyone. That is why it's taken them so long to get us to where we are today. See the parable of the Non-Newtonian fluid.

So with all those spinning plates to control at once, failure of one causing the rest to crash as well — they have multiple contingency plans. How to salvage the most from the wreckage. Plan Bs of Plan Cs. The kikes' "Economic Sampson Option" would be catastrophic to us, however I guarantee you it wouldn't wipe them out as the name of the plan implies. If it's all going to go down anyway, I guarantee they would take it down on their terms and try to manage the chaos. They've been planning this as a contingency plan for years. Bunkers in New Zealand, grabbing up the cryptocurrencies, having JP Morgan buy monster amounts of Silver, etc etc.

Buy guns, Buy ammo. Food. Water. Supplies. This shit show cannot go on forever, it's a mathematical inevitability. Always remember that the fundamentals have not changed. Even though the whole prognosticators love to scream chicken-little to fire up the shekel machine, they are only speaking to the 'when' it will occur. The fact that it WILL occur has already been established.

We need a modern Huey Long then.

Watch the FED and the Jewess that chairs it… (stronk womyn) Janet Yellen. It's that simple. They eased and stimulated for 8 years of king nigger, effectively a welfare program for his presidency. Quantitative easing just meant money printing… cash for clunkers is why used cars are so expensive now… it's also why ANYONE can get a college loan for any amount. Now? Rhetoric has completely shifted since Trumps election… calling for interest rate hikes.

NON-ECON FAGS READ

Interest rate targets are how the FED fucks up the economy, because they are pervasive and impact everything. Greenspan helped CAUSE the housing boom with low interest rate policies, and after he started jacking up interest rates we had the worst financial crisis in history. It is no different now except the bubble isn't in housing… it is in the CURRENCY ITSELF and its relative value around the world.

tl:dr
The FED will precipitate the crisis using interest rate hikes, and no matter where your money is stored it will be devalued and your savings wiped out unless you buy physical objects with it.

You're so brutally correct I'm on the edge of my seat. Keep family close.

The economy has been a grenade since 2008, they can pull the pin any time, and it might just go off anyway if they take their finger off the CTRL+P button for a second.

One thing, user.
They didn't account for us. We fucked it all up for them.

I heard that Obama care was designed to fail to have a Euro Style health care system take it's place. How accurate is this?

i hope they do crash it
and the lights go out
and we know what to do then

I have now become convinced that governments will not allow this to go further. They will outlaw it but can't and eventually reason that a EMP from a nuke in the stratosphere to remove all data is the better option then to submit to a none FIAT system not able to be controlled by any government.

Obamacare was designed to fail from the get go. It wasn't designed to work. It was the classic bait and switch. They put something in place they know won't work. That can't work. So that when it DOES fail, they "have to" replace it with what they really wanted — a full on commie single payer system.

The kikes in govt would then be paying their kike friends in big pharma industry. Meanwhile all us normal people would get nothing but shitty service, long lines, healthcare staff full of EEOC mongrels and shitskins, and a general drastic reduction in our quality of life.

Single payer is nothing more than another kike globalist money redistribution scheme and method of usurping power and authority over the citizens of this country.

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Trump already knows he's getting pinned as the fall guy. I distinctly recall him saying as such during one of his Christmas 2015 rallies, he said that we were sitting on a big fat bubble, and that he was hoping it would go during Obama's presidency, because otherwise it was going to get blamed on him. He further panned the establishment for how they were going all-out trying to temporarily prop the thing up so that it didn't reflect badly on Obama.

The way I see it, the correct response for him right now is to get rid of this impeachment crap and solidify his position at any cost, even if that means he appears to be cucking out. He knows damn well what's coming, and appears to be prioritizing the entrenchment of his position as the recognized authority for when it does. He is going to need some serious political capital to recover things from the actual Happening, being in position for that is the only thing that really matters right now.

Simple. Elegant. Efficient.

I like it. Also, you're off by one for quints.

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WTF I hate Trump now. Should have voted for Hillary or A Leppo Man!

'It looks like a giant pyramid scheme'

It IS a giant pyramid scheme. The issue is its a pyramid scheme around the entire world economy that is not sustainable on the long term. On top of this it is nearing its end of lifetime, the pyramid scheme. Countries are being bloated by debt that will require unattainable growth. Deficits are so big that inflation + growth can not really solve them, actually closing the deficit leads to less economic growth and well if you don't have any economic growth in the pyramid scheme you're fucked so you can't just 'close the deficit'.

Politicians and central banks could prevent this chaos 30 or 20 years ago. But even back then the consequences would be massive and you would probably make the citizens very mad because they would've lost much. However problems have gotten so out of hand that citizens now will eventually lose everything when it comes crashing down. Pension funds are lost, capital in houses would be lost. Economic oppurtunity would be non existant and poverty will be widespread. That's what will eventually happen in this pyramid scheme.

No politician can fix this mess. The ECB and FED operate independantly from politicians, even though politicians can have heavy influence. It's simply not possible in the current political climate to change course. So it's about waiting 2-3 years until it all comes crashing down, and that will likely happen due to southern EU countries having huge deficits and too little growth to really compensate, northern countries can't save that and their economies will be dragged into the water along with the southern European economies. The crash will of course spiral down towards the US which will get devastated as well, and this spreads of course to the entire world.

Usually in times of incoming financial collapse or economically hard times countries seek to start wars so they get room to fix stuff. Guess who the US and EU are hyping up as an enemy for war? Russia.

Elite kikes are deep in the derivative markets as well. They will never allow a full on crash to happen because that would mean they might lose all the wealth they have.

They can dump small parts of the huge sum of derivatives and do a minor 5-8% crash and make it seem like a market correction back to 2008. They would never reveal that the king is not wearing clothes, they merely show that the king is not wearing its shoes while he's actually wearing nothing at all!

1929 would be a small crash compared to the crash that we're in for in this pyramid scheme economical system. In 1929 countries still mostly maintained their own economical system and everything wasn't integrated yet. Now everything is fully integrated due to globalism, so if one country crashes hard enough other countries will sink with it. A big enough crash in a single market can cause everything to sink.

It shall be worth the many YEARS of HARD STRUGGLE post-collapse JUST to see these fucking TREASONOUS CUNTS hang on livestream. I mean, I'll gladly eat out of dumpsters for a couple months to watch Don Lemon's fucking HEAD come off. Not that I'd have to, but I'd do it if necessary.

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If by "full on crash" you mean a drop of 15000 points over 3 days then I don't think that'll happen. Even the 2008 collapse took 5 months from peak to trough.

The jews that are heavily into derivatives have changed the law (in the dodd Frank bill) to which outlines that THEY will be first in line to be recompensated should the derivatives bomb explode. There are also numerous kill switches in the market that trigger a cessation of market activity should certain thresholds be reached. There are various tiers of that system. There are also plans to implement "market do overs" which essentially mean halting trading, waiting a few days, and then re-setting the market to values of [insert whatever time frame they want].

Rest assured, the giga-kikes aren't going to suffer should this shit explode. They have managed to set up a framework to ensure their assets are protected from substantial loss. You on the other hand, are fucked and 21st the mercy of whatever the govt wants to do.

The talk this time around is "bail in". You've heard this term referred to as a "haircut" when it was implemented in Greece and Cyprus not to long ago. They have The same plan in mind for here. They are going to confiscate the money in your account (they are NOT going to call it that) and limit the amount of cash you can withdrawal at any given time. The only way around this is to hoard cash now……or acquire PMs to have on hand to barter with. This is the entire reason there is a huge kike push to outlaw cash and move towards an entirely digital form of money and transactions. Becuase they can't really control/monitor/restrict cash. Becuase it's physical. Wheras some kike in the basement of wherever can type a few commands and click a mouse and control and track every human beings financial transaction they make and have ever made.

This is coming. Those are the plays in their playbook. The time to position yourself is now. We know basically what their game plan is going to be, just not the specific tactical decisions. Physical assets (and I don't just mean precious metals) will be king. Remember, millionaires and billionaires are all buying land and building fucking fallout bunkers in faraway places at record pace right now. They know what's coming. I suggest everyone here start planning any way they can to do the same.

don't want to be fucked and 21st. wot do user?

Zerohedge has been predicting collapse for mamy years. Its how they get eyeballs. Look at the numbers. Current wealth of world is 250 T. 1% owns half. US debt is less than 10%. Even if US defaults, it only represents single digit reduction in overall wealth. The elites have far too much money and power to allow for a collapse. Sorry, anons, no collapse for you!

There's a bunch of info in this thread already.

Basically cash on hand to bridge immediate expenses (gas, meds, etc), PMs if you want a store of value to transition your $$$$ assets to whatever system is brought forward in the future —- and The standard assortment of everything you need to live during a period of time where other people are struggling to get by and resources are scarce (guns, ammo, food, water, meds, fuel/energy, etc).

"What has happened before will happen again".

This is all very valid info.

Imagine what will happen when the boomers realise their retirement funds have lost 50 or 805 of their value? They will go into maximum shekel hoarding mode just like Germans did back in the first world war and the early to mid 1920s.

Add onto that that generation z is by every study extremely fiscally conservative and all of a sudden the velocity of money collapses even further.

This will be a HUGE deflationary force on the economy and the Federal Reserve does not like deflation. In their opinion there should be a constant slow inflation which is the exact opposite of what happens in proper free market capitalism.

So the Fed will do everything in their power to convince people to spend. But by now failing countries will have sold their treasury bonds back to the real us monetary base and the moment people spend prices will inflate at a ridiculous speed to catch up.

This is EXACTLY what destroyed Weimar Germany. The degeneracy was merely a symptom of this.

Keep your eyes peeled boys. Take any opportunity to make our politics mainstream.

You give us too much credit and too little credit at once.

We havn't really done much yet. Our community punches FAR above it's weight but it's still not really hurting them.

We're like a tiny nation state with 2 cities who have an ass load of influence over everybody else at the bottom end. The powerful havn't felt our punches.

On the other hand we've helped educate potentially millions of future political leaders on how to solve this shitshow.

the full effects of the internet revolution won't start to take effect for another decade or so when the bulk of anons are finally old enough to really run for office.

Sectors will collapse, not the economy as a whole and the fucking normies will think they bet on the wrong horse, switch branches/companies/cities and move on, a lot will go bankrupt, broken in spirit, drugs. The next sector can be fracking or auto loans. This all slowly grinds away the resilience of those still working, while the ever larger welfare sector gets blown up in never seen proportions - world wide.

Feuerwaffen.
But I like Feuerarmen, hahaha.

One problem: If China and India actually get their shit together (especially India, eh) at the end of this year, they will boost the global economy. You can't blame a shitshow on Trump if the Eurozone still magically works and TROTW except the usual towel heads have massive upwinds. Now the crashing oil is exactly what delivers into this scenario. Gas plunging this year will be the second very handy injection into big economies, while smaller fail. But they go unnoticed. Indonesia e.g. will crash, hard. Their whole government subsidy system fell flat, Egypt, Venezuela, all similar examples. Those nations who already crashed way back in the aftermath of LTCM miraculously have a uninterrupted growth.
What if TROTW thinks a crash is a distinctly American Problem and shifts power to G20-minus-top or IMFminus-gs.com? And then there are organizations where their influence isn't that simple, like SCO or ASEAN. Maybe they have /theirguys/ planted, but those orgs operate on different ideological and organizational grounds than the Washington, bullshitting consensus. The binary examples of Argentina-USA or Nigeria-USA are completely different from the moloch multipolar Asian type of politics where everybody can with only his behavior veto anything and anybody else.

I've been to Mexico and can confirm. The nicer the house the bigger the wall and plainer they make the property look from the street. It's what wealthy Mexicans do to hide their wealth from the plebs. From the outside it looks like first pic related and the inside looks like the second pic. I once stayed with a rich mexican family that literally lived in an old Spanish castle, it was in their family for hundreds of years, the entire property was hidden by a massive stone wall.

Sage for off topic.

Inb4 spic pls go. No, I was actually in a muh travel phase during college and Mexico was in my poorfag budget. I lived like a king for half a year, no regrets.

reeeeeeee forgot the sage

Nothing would surprise me at this point.

People are already hoarding their shekels. Hence the entire schemes like 0% APR car loans, Cash for Clunkers, etc.

Deflation was already occuring as natural market forces attempted to return to the mean. This was unacceptable for the FED (deflation is a death spiral for kike bankers, which absoltuely DEPEND on inflation to stay alive), so insert the practice of "quantitative easing", wherein money was printed and essentially given to hedge fund managers to inflate the price of the various stocks and maintain the bullshit illusion that "the stock market is fine, goys! Go out and spend that money and take out more credit debt!". In the meantime, the giga-kike hedge fund managers have been raking in BILLIONS off of parasitic 'bonuses' from these policies.

The trillions of dollars that have been printed have led to massive amount of inflation in the stock and bond market, and has bled a bit into the 'real world' (ie. groceries and other areas) — but hyperinflation has been kept in check solely because the trillions of dollars are NOT actively in circulation. In other words, the velocity of money is not high. So, functionally, the money supply increase hasn't truly affected our day to day shit as much as it should.

That will all change once the real shit show starts. And no one knows what will cause the trigger event. But when it all goes down, people will be making a mad dash for the exits and selling all their stocks, bonds, etc in an effort to get liquid as fast as possible. Central banks all over the world will be getting in on this dollar-shorting action as well.

Once that money that is held up on various balance sheets across the globe are dumped on the market, the absolute mad dash to exit the markets will ultimately be dwarfed by the insane lemming rush on anything REAL. Precious Metals especially, but really any item even loosely related to being a 'safety asset'. This will be because even the dumbest shit on the street will know that hyperinflation will be coming soon, riding it's pale horse, to cull the stupid and the weak. And, like a self fulfilling prophecy, anything of any REAL value (food, gasoline, guns, PMs, etc) with become absolutely ridiculously expensive to buy — if not outright impossible due to their not being available for purchase anymore.

Crash –→ Deflation (or very real threat of deflation —→ Kikes get scared —→ Massive money printing (often called "helicopter money") —→ uncontrolled hyperinflation. The house of cards are stacked and the wind in the area is picking up. No one knows WHEN it's going to happen, but ALL know that it will. It's just a matter of time. It's straight up mathematics that tells us it is unsustainable…….and the aftermath is clear given even a rudimentary understanding of basic human nature/history.

The average normalfag watching Cramer or any of the other fucking retard shills on CNBC or FOX Business would never consider it given the amounts of sunshine blown up their asses everyday by the same shitheads that said the same things in 2007. But more and more people are 'getting it'. Finally.

Hope you faggots are ready for the shitshow, because the circus is coming to town and everyone's invited.

Ideally it'd be user's like you making posts like this and creating said self-fulfilling prophecy.

Holla Forums will create the Happening.

So…derivatives are basically hot dogs?

Trump knows he's sitting on a bubble though. He's said multiple times that Yellen and the Federal Reserve have been delaying the pop so it doesn't happen on Obongo's watch.

To expand on this user's excellent point regarding monetary velocity, here is the latest data to give you an idea what kind of deceleration we've experienced since the Great Recession. Also included is the data on the overall supply of monies (M2 includes cash, traveler's cheques, CDs, savings and checking account deposits, and individual money market account deposits, i.e. anything you can cash out without a buyer). That's a 61.7% increase over Obama's administration which works out to be around 6.2% per annum - slightly higher than the Fed's target 2%.

Even better is what's been happening with all that Monopoly money. The money was not "essentially given to hedge fund managers" - in fact hedge funds have been getting screwed in the Fed-driven economy. The truth is far worse. Large corporations have been taking out billions in loans and using that money to buyback their stock. This reduces the total issue of shares which juices their earnings per share (EPS) calculations by reducing the denominator. EPS is the #1 metric by which companies are valued by the stock market and thus asset prices remain inflated.

The problem with this is earnings have actually plateaued since the Great Recession, which is to say these companies have not actually expanded at all. What has expanded is their outstanding debt. Now, companies can always reissue stock in order to buyback their debt, but here's where things get real fucked real fast: that debt was issued to buyback stock as the price was increasing. New shares will be issued to buyback that debt while the stock price is decreasing. End result, these companies will have to issue more shares in order to buyback their debt than they initially bought. Even worse, having to issue shares to cover your debts is a sign of financial instability and will cause share prices to crash even lower into a vicious cycle of companies selling ever greater amounts increasingly cheaper stock. This is essentially what happened when the housing market imploded, just replace houses with stock and the end result is the same.

But wait, there's more! As you might imagine, some of these companies will fail completely and their debts simply won't be repaid. This will lead to a simultaneous bond market crash. Now conventional investment wisdom recommends investors "diversify" their investments in order to better weather market down turns. The theory goes is that if stocks go in the shitter, bonds will do well and vice versa. This used to work because companies would only take on new debt when they had to, e.g. during a market downturn. The problem today is companies have continued to take on debt during the "recovery" because interest rates are so low.

Which brings me to my final criticism of f0671d: we do know what will trigger this avalanche and that pebble is the Federal Funds Rate. Now I'm not bored enough to try to calculate what threshold will kick off this party, but I'm sure it will never make it anywhere near its historical level of 5% before bringing down this house of cards. And yes, the Federal Funds Rate is entirely in the hands of der juden. It is the sword of Damocles that dangles above us all. Their next meeting is June 13-14. Mark your calendars!