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Wyverns are Dragons

TES lore is WRONG

So if you copy and paste high elves, wood elves, and dark elves into a game and fiddle with some footnotes then you can give the races new names, but if you do the same for wyverns you aren't allowed to call them anything but wyverns?

I bet you call magazines "clips."

within the universe of TES, TWS lore is correct

But dragons have four legs.

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TES not tws fuggg :DDD

Since middle ages people were confusing wyverns with dragons.

Going back all the way to Redguard, they have always looked like wyverns. The only one whos ever looked like a dragon was Peryite and hes not even a dragon.

They're not dragons unless they have 4 legs.

This is not negotiable.

You sound like the kind of fag that would also argue that magazine is interchangeable with clip.

There's a reason we have different words for different things.
This thread is full of philistines and the colored.

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I bet that description took longer than making the actual mod.

Not in TES lore. The Dragons in TES have only 2 legs.

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I don't know what makes you think that this has suddenly become negotiable.

Because it is still not negotiable.

They are not dragons.

Wyverns are spooks

In TES lore and games, they are defined as dragons. I don't see you sperging about them referring to a crack like substance as moon sugar or how Katanas are one handed.
Are you just a desperate furfag?

where was your autism in oblivion?

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A fancy way of saying he's a furry who jerks off to dragon porn.

Except they're still called high elves, wood elves and dark elves in the universe. Those other names are the knife-ear autism words for themselves.

I 200% guarantee this guy jerks off to pictures of big buff dragon dudes cumming gallons of dragon jizz into each other's assholes.

if you saw a creature that looked like a anteater with wings for hands, you'd call it something other then an anteater or a mutant freak.

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OH

OKAY THEN IS THAT HOW WE'RE PLAYING THIS?

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NEVERMIND THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE SCALES, OR WINGS, AND IS ACTUALLY A WEREWOLF IN ALL REGARDS, NO, I'M A GIANT FAGGOT WHO IS STUPID THEREFORE IT'S A FUCKING DRAGON AND HOW DARE YOU SAY OTHERWISE

FUCK THE LOT OF YOU

Cool, whats the name of your new IP?

dude doubles are the most epic meme ever seriously thanks for letting us know with that epic pic from "american wacko"

great work man keep it up, this meme is great and it always will be. checkem.

You can't make this shit up.

Good luck with your venture. I hope you create many games and develop an interesting fictional universe.

Elder Scrolls.

He just wants to live in a cave on top of his piles of gold like any dragonkin would.

But Elder scrolls already has werewolves and dragons.

Impressive, very nice

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will do friend ;^)

IT'S CALLED FUCK YOU: DRAGONS OF THE WYVERN FOREST: A WYRM'S TALE

Nice, when are you releasing the rule book and video game adaptation?

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Oh hey guys, are we talking about dragons ITT?

nobody tell 54c1b8 about peryite

Oh my, that's not the right picture at all.

Peryite can change his form at will, dingus.

in a perfect world this fag would be executed on the spot

It's like we're playing generic furfag bingo.

he's not a real dragon though
except when he is if i'm reading the lore right

Hey dude, i have better idea.

How about making a game about dinosaurs and call them dragons?

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That's clearly a raccoon.

The fuck they are they're straight up rip-offs of Warhammer's elves. You have the haughty high elves in their god damn fancy island, their wood elf former colonists have turned into bugfuck crazy mutants and tree worshippers and in the north dwell the dark elf heretics who worship backstabbing.

That's the point. Peryite isn't a real anything except for a real Daedra.

A tranny too, then? Impressive.

I love this idea! Pic related is my favorite dragon.

This is why no girls come here.

He can change his forms but his favorite form is a four legged dragon because dragons are two legged in TES lore:^)

It's not, it's just another variation of Tolkien/D&D elves, including their own version of corrupted elves with Orsimer.

I guess TES humans aren't actually shouldn't be called that since they don't have the same origins and histories as real humans.

I mean you can do that. It's your fictional universe, the only that matters is the internal consistency of its definitions rather than its consistency to definitions in our universe. I mean I don't see people getting butt-damaged about how Zelda calls bat-like creatures Keese or snake-like creatures Rope.

He might be Akatosh from a previous kalpa. Its been a while since I've been with the loremasters of /tes/ so don't take my word on that.

I dunno what to tell you.

Tell me how girls can contribute positively to this conversation? How do you know anyone here is not a girl?

Oh because they are not trying to get the thread off topic you little bitch.

Niggers are wyverns of this world.

Everyone in presents of mentally sick dragons calls them dragons too.

No, Peryite might become the next kalpa's Akatosh

Nigger this is what real dragon look like.
Take your gay ass lizards off this site.

Why would anyone do that?
You know what, I've done some thinking and I'm actually on the autist's side. Words mean things. So what if it's mythical. A griffin is mythical, but everyone knows what it is, and if you made something in your fiction which obviously isn't a griffin but called it one anyway, people would be entitled to call you out. Likewise, a pegasus is not a unicorn and vice versa.

One more for the road. I found his avatar.

maverik-soldier.deviantart.com/art/Coru-FinalEffects-577710598

OH MY GOD THAT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT A WEREWOLF THE FACIAL FEATURES ARE FAR TOO WOLF LIKE RATHER THAN HUMAN, AND NEITHER WOLF NOR MAN HAVE GORILLA ARMS
this is what you sound like you autistic fuck
also I'm getting really fucking tired of retards like you not understanding what wings are
THIS JUST IN EVERY SINGLE VERTEBRATE WING IS A MODIFIED FRONT LIMB, WINGS AREN'T SOME KIND OF MYSTICAL FLYING ORGAN
wyverns have four limbs
many classical European dragons have SIX
if you want to fix you're autistic fucking definition thats fine, just keep in mind you'd be kicking all Asian dragons out of that definition with it

Dragon's still exist in our world.

Those are redguards.

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You fucking racist bigot! Only racists use the R word!

Actually, he's right in that his image was of a werewolf. Your, however, is both bipedal and has 5 digits on each hand, plus its upper body is much more humanlike than wolflike.

In reality, you have posted a wolfman. Similar, but distinct from a werewolf, which is just a man who turns into a wolf. It's a common misunderstanding, I get the confusion.

no, they can't

temporarily maybe, but they'll get triggers sooner than later, and go away and no, if you have a dick, you're not a grill

Fuck off, Kojima. You made a whole game almost about how important words are so you can't point fingers.

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But seriously, what games let me play as or with a dragon?

Played:
Divinity 2
Drakengard
Panzer Dragoon
Smite and Dota 2 but those don't count damnit

Is dragon commander any good in terms of gameplay?

TES elves have their own style and quirks. Like spaceships.

Why do you care so much about shit that doesn't really matter?

The problem is that Skyrim is so shallow and generic that all you can do is use the definitions of our world or other fiction like it.

Look at Monster Hunter as a counter example. Extremely dangerous monsters get the title of elder dragon, even if they're clearly not dragons by our definition.

NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT

FUCK YOU

THIS SHIT IS WHY EVERYTHING IS SUCK, LIFE IS NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF FUCKS TRYING TO REDEFINE EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT SUITS THEM INSTEAD OF LETTING THINGS THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE WAY THEY ARE BE THE WAY THEY ARE

DRAGONS ARE DRAGONS, THEY HAVE FOUR LEGS AND WINGS

FUCK YOU THIS IS NOT NEGOTIABLE YOU UTTER FAGGOT

Fuck this shit I'm going to beddy-byes

Why are you trying to dilute the meaning of words into a melting pot of sameness?
Are you trying to subvert us?

Why care about anything? May as well just embrace the void and end it all.

Somalians are perfect redguard stand in

Considering you listed Drakengard, yeah Dragon commander is way better than that.
Also add Draken 1 and 2

Let me guess, you don't know a word of the lore do you?

nice

The Redguards are arabic niggers, not african niggers.
Plus, everybody knows the true niggers of Cyrodiil are the Nords.

Draken what? Just Draken?

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There are 4 legged dragons in TES. His name is peryite. All other "dragons" are fags.

Maybe the creator of the mod is a Holla Forumsirgin

Khajit are the true sandniggers. Redguard are known for their sailing skills and piracy.
Nords are snowniggers who do nothing but rape and murder.

Visually they've gotten better since Kirkbride and so on did their crap but they're still annoyingly derivative

Did you forget the part where half of Hammerfell is desert and a quarter are mountains?

Dragon means snek
Sneks don't have legs
You need to find a new name for your big lizards

Misspelled it. Its called Drakan
There are more things called Draken/Drakken/Drakkhan than I realized

Yes, what of it?

It's not changing the definition, it's a definition for a separate reality - a fictional one at that.

Peryite looks like that to make fun of Akatosh

Good thing Redguards weren't born on Tamriel then eh?

oops
this is embarrassing
also

No one cares about chink shit

And people still think that bethesda haven't raped the lore.

fuck you you're right

Neither was anyone else

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inb4 this thread heads in THAT direction quicker than an n'wah on a prison ship to morrowind

That is very clearly distinguished as a Chinese Dragon, not a Dragon, and like most things with 'Chinese' in front of it, it is not actually the thing that it's suppose to be.

Thought the first one was that Thalmor deathstar?
Everything is a copy of something else. Nothing is made in a vacuum. Plus I think the Dunmur and Altmur are interesting enough that you can't really so they are a copy of Tolkien's wood elfs.

I heard this mod is planning to add true dragons with four legs: nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/76203/?

The whole Human and Elf distinction has been around since Daggerfall.
There are books in Morrowind that even detail how it is believed to have happened.

Orcs being elves was a stupid idea.

Why is that?

They're Dragons m8, and in TES Dragons are Angels (Aedra).

What about Dragonlings from Daggefall?

Four-leg two-wing dragons are only called dragons because no distinct morphological title exists for them and their referral as such in D&D monster manuals, spawning an unfounded pop fantasy conviction of this morphology as 'true' dragons when compared to the D&D lesser and cousin species. Wyverns are only called wyverns in English due to English peculiarities of heraldry, and are otherwise likely to just get called dragons also. All dragons are dragons by virtue of being large, fickle, scaled creatures associated either with temporal chaos or celestial order, or both, whom exist in relation to man as respectively the chaos monster or the entitized primordial state and wisdom from which all unfolds- or again, both at once- regardless of their morphological peculiarities. Except for South Slavic dragons, who are just cave-dwelling wizardchan posters in desperate need of a waifu and for these shitty fucking knights & giants to fuck off. Furthermore, Skyrim dragons do not fit in the strictest definition of 'wyvern' due to not having poison-barbed tails.

Wyverns are dragons. Lindwurms are dragons. Lung are dragons. Bigass snakes are dragons. 'Dragons' are dragons. Therefore, in the absence of the pop fantasy four leg/two wing configuration, or even in spite of it if they should go the route of calling them wyrms to suggest the 'primordial big snake' attribute, then a distinct IP may name any of the above as simply being 'dragons.'

Not true dragons. They are probably called so because of their similarity to dragons but a smaller size.
I say probably because lore wasn't consolidated before Morrowind and even then they actively retcon inconvenient things instead of working around them.

Blame Tolkien.

christ
where exactly are you getting this set in stone definition?
dragons are obviously an old as fuck myth so they'd been established pretty fucking far back
yet you can see even back then people were varying their looks
can you honestly say you're more correct than those that were alive closer to the actual conception of the myth?
this painting has been done over and over with so many variations, I just happened to find a few that display the creature shown with two back legs and wings
if you had some sort of biological ground to stand on you'd be solid, but arguing dragons and wyverns is like arguing ghosts and wraiths
its fine to make distinctions, but the original fiction is so broad that throwing a tantrum about synonyms is fucking pointless and retarded

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>read fantasy book
>elves live in the elven forest

into the lake of fire you go

Since C0DA made the lore open source, dragons can be called wyverns and/or dragons can have 4 legs.

WEW LAD

Are you mad that Redguards aren't called Niggers/African Tamrielian too?

Come on, guys. Just because one fantasy universe made it that way doesn't mean all future fantasy universes have to follow. And Skyrim has enough problems to point out over getting autistic over the depiction of a fictional creature that didn't even have a set definition in its mythological origin.

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Not quite, seeing as their origins are distinct, but there's a case for it. A chimera most strictly refers to a ravenous magical beast with the head and foreend of a lion, the head and back end of a goat, and either a snakes' head & tail or a snakes' head as a tail. Bat wings may or may not be thrown on there. From this definition, we derive the term 'chimeric,' which beside meaning 'something unreal in make' means 'something of many disparate parts.'

A manticore, meanwhile, 'has the body of a red lion, a human head with three rows of sharp teeth (like a shark), sometimes bat-like wings, and a trumpet-like voice. Other aspects of the creature vary from story to story. It may be horned, winged, or both. The tail is that of either a dragon or a scorpion, and it may shoot venomous spines to either paralyze or kill its victims. It devours its prey whole and leaves no clothes, bones, or possessions of the prey behind.' In other words, it is a magical creature exhibiting chimerism, and therefore is definable as a chimera.

Whether a chimera is definable as a manticore is dubious, but then again, they're completely unrelated beside both being chimeric, whereas dragon morphology wildly varies and yet is completely indistinct in seeing them defined as anything other than 'a dragon,' or in the presence of other morphologies, 'a particular kind of dragon.' They're all primordial snake monsters, regardless of number or lack of limbs, wings, fiery or poisonous breath & fangs, barbs, or size, and only post-D&D pop fantasy makes the strict heraldry-derived distinctions. Tolkien, meanwhile, had dragons evolve under Melkor's guiding hand from lindwurm-style or else limbless cold drakes, to unwinged flame drakes, and finally to winged flame drakes, but all of them are dragons.

Sure, go ahead.

I guess this isn't a dragon either.

Not the same thing, they could call their wyverns Dunguards all I care, calling their wyverns dragons is retardation, and making up explanations for it is covering up the retardation of mixing up the two.

Japanese pay more attention to western mythology than western devs.

You'd have a game where pointy eared faggots are called Orcs and green niggers are called Elves? And after the fact, only after, you'd come up with an explanation "oh, i-it's how the people in this universe call them! It's not the author's fault!"

Sure, I don't have autism user and it doesn't mean anything because they can do what they want with their fictional world.

ayyyyyyyyy

That's a snake retard

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Pick 1

You can eat shit all you want.

People in the fictional world are allowed to be retards, the author on the other hand is not. You can have someone utterly stupid as a character say stupid things and mixing up everything, but when you see that these retarded thoughts are from the author then you are consuming something of bad taste like Sword Art Online.

nothing says a serpant can't have arms

Please, that's clearly a pug.

Google says it isn't a snek

No wonder youre fucking stupid. snakes don't play by your rules big guy

I identify as a snake and I don't have arms.
Showed you faggot.

That book is from Morrowind.

So are there any examples of four legged "fake" dragons in the lore?

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Hey guys look at these cool clips.

fam, it's already been solved. Distinction between a dragon and wyvern exists only in the anglosphere.

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Silly user, that's obviously a vampire.

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The japanese do it all the time. Hell the japanese name for dinos is fucking dragon/ryu.

It's a fucking pooka you ass hat.

Checkmate atheists

Are there any azn dragons in the lore while we're at it?

Didn't ES Online add werebats? What's the deal with that?

now if you only knew that the word werwolf literally means man wolf.
I don't know if I should be laughing

A man wolf is not a wolfman.

Daggerfall had werebears and wereboars.

Weresharks, werecrocodiles, and werevultures also exist.

I don't have an issue with them. But what's the point of werebats when you got vampires?

It's like the point of having man-spider when you have spider-man.

Here is Saint George killing a dragon.
First one is from 15th century.
Third one is by Vasnetsov, 18th century.
Fourth one is from 1456.
Fifth one is the 15th century icon.

All you fags claiming that dragons need to have four legs are retarded fags who probably got that idea from some stupid dungeons and dragons rulebook and think you are so smart when you don't know shit.

Vampires are people Molag Bal raped.

Lycanthropy.is when Hircine turns you into a furry.

They are 2 different things.

Is that John Flynt?

The difference is that magazines and clips actually exist and people don't differentiate the two because a single gamebook 40 years said so.

uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nafaalilargus

This. This thread is pure concentrated autism.

Says the anonymous guy on a videogame board.

UMM WOW.
Stop literally raping dragons you shitlord.
After all, that's like…. oh god this is literally the exact same autism that plagues literally every roguelike thread

If only there was a mod to make the game not shit

Now I'm just picturing some dragon in a fantasy setting who constantly sits around and mopes about how the humans keep "misunderstanding" his torching their towns and eating their virgins.

In terms of mods for creature variety which this game fucking needs.

Add about 100 to fix other things and you should be fine.
Remember to get to modded quests as soon as possible because they are 10 times better than vanilla stuff.

Pretty sure all those mods will fuck up your save.

They haven't fucked up mine.

Well, I don't know about Beasts of Skyrim, but Monster Mod and Deadly Dragons are still shit. Immersive Creatures and Ultimate Dragons are much better alternatives.

I'm still not certain how flammies and wyrms are related to each other.

How about a mod to fix the shitty combat

Doesn't exist. You can, at most, make it somewhat less shit.

If this is what it takes to keep the cancer away, then let the nerd battle rage.

Have a look at skyrim redone.
Thats about as much as you can polish this turd.

I feel like making a game with 4 legged + winged reptiles and call them all wyverns.
Triggering you OCD fags is just priceless.

Are there wyrms in ES lore?

holy fucking lel.

They really talk like autistic 3 year okdd

His… something profile, I don't even know what the fuck this is

uthrandir.enjin.com/profile/5012817/info

ask.fm/andethir

HE HAS AN ASK

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We really need some sort of place where we can put all the mentally ill freaks like that guy.

A camp perhaps, where we can concentrate them all.

Oh wait. He's also canadian…

Regardless of what you autistic reddit summerfags classify as a "Dragon", I personally think that the design with 4 legs and separate wings is not only more aesthetically pleasing, but also more intimidating as an opponent.

What attacks do Wyverns have? Bite, Tail Swipe and Breath Fire? wew, how fucking interesting…

I fail to see how the addition of two extra legs give the six-limbed winged lizards a significant amount of more attacks over the four-limbed varieties.

They can stroke 4 cocks at the same time.

Can your pathetic wyvyeryn do that?

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Thanks for reminding me that shit exists.

Dude's the lowest of the Daedric Princes, so he mocks Akatosh by taking his form.

It all makes sense now.

Perfect.

Makes one wonder about his connection with Akatosh though.

Akatosh is probably what anime characters are to autists.

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wy·vern
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noun: wyvern; plural noun: wyverns; noun: wivern; plural noun: wiverns

a winged two-legged dragon with a barbed tail.

a wyvern is a dragon

I'll translate his dragon otherkin bullshit for you guys.

Really its more of this.

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That`s the target demo alright

I agree with d4e2b2
For all intents and purposes, the difference between a werewolf and a wolfman might as well be the difference between the Batman and Man-Bat.

Only one and that is only a daedric god.

D&D is retarded trash that is completely divorced from any real lore involving dragons.

Pic related is the Nordic dragon Nidhogg, the dragon which gnaws on the roots of Yggdrasil and is likely the inspiration for Alduin. He has only two legs and no wings.

wat

Yes, dipshit, dragons are in the mythos of many cultures.

Of course. Not only is he Canadian, but he's from BC. I can't get anywhere closer to the epicentre of faggotry unless I went to Sanfran.

D&D did not fucking invent the concept of dragons either

Too bad they don't all agree on what a dragon is.

Wyvern autists are the worst.

The wyvern has often been confused with the dragon, due to the similarities between them and due to the wyvern being a lesser-known mythical creature. In the Middle Ages, no clear distinction was made between the two. Since the sixteenth century, in English, Scottish, and Irish heraldry, the key distinction has been that a wyvern has two legs, whereas a dragon has four; however, this distinction is not generally observed in the heraldry of other European countries, where two-legged dragons are entirely acceptable.

Also dragons aren't fucking real you faggots

I live down south and I can confirm, that is a raccoon
it even has the feathers and shit

You mean the gnostics in their fucking island of poetry, the fucking god-wads of the west, and those retards who seriously believe that Nirn is not a prison, all of whom are former bugfuck crazy mutants.

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And don't forget the Khajiit either, you sick fuck.

Congratulations on sussing out my point, you fucking genius.

>People are still SERIOUSLY trying to argue that calling a two legged lizard a dragon is ok
YOU FUCKIGN AUTSITIC PIECES OF SHIT DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RELA DRAGONS FUCKING SHUT UP DRAGNS HAVE 4 LEGS AND ONLY 4 LEGS I WILL HUNT YOU DONW AND KILL YOU IF YOU KEEP PERPETUATING THIS FUCKING 'wyvern = dragon' MEME I SWEAR TO GOD
:^)

What is that song from? I've heard it, but I'm not remembering from where.

Post scalies

Spyro, if you are a child.

you can easily find out yourself

How? Using a webm to music database reverse image search?

It's monty on the run.

there was a big stink over the dragon negress in league of legends years ago too. wyvern this and that yadda yadda.
nobody would have cared if the model werent fuck ugly

Bulgaria has their own dragons too that we don't call dragons. It's called zmei (змей). I don't get why you'd get triggered over a fucking dragon though.

Honestly, this whole fucking thread.

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Jesus fucking Christ.

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I know a obnoxious scalie who swears up and down that Alphys from Undertale is a dragon
I tell him he's a fucking retard and that she's probably a dinosaur/lizard to which he replies she's a type of dragon called a drake, a wingless dragon
Except she doesn't breath fire so she's just a dinosaur/lizard, this logic always makes him raeg hard

Featuring Donte from the Devil May Cry series

QUICK MODS ARE ASLEEP POST DRAGONS

what are you trying to imply here?
yes buddy dragons are myths
I'm sorry if I had to be the one to break the news to you

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Thanks

Whats so hard to believe? dragons have been worshiped by multiple cultures for thousands of years

I wonder if this is a real fetish or if it's all one big joke.

So this is the type of retard infesting Holla Forums these days.
Go back to your Steam page, Corosar. You're just embarrassing yourself.

It's a real fetish

is it yours?

So are Wyverns the niggers of huge flying lizards?

fuuuuuuuuuuck

No, actually. Not stupid enough to really find a place on the radar

Dragon is a title and a role, not a species. The dragons in Skyrim are million times more dragons than the ones in Lair or HTTYD.

Wyverns are the niggers of the dragon kind and you're all faggots for saying otherwise

That's what the Nords thought too, once. Until they came back.

I thought the centre of all evil in Canada was Quebec?

>>>/reddit/

I never knew Dragons were so controversial.

Hey bro, I ran out of shots for my assault rifle, can you spot me a clip?

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That's what I thought too. That and that British Columbia is a Chinese colony.

Not to be overly nitpicky, but most traditional renditions, descriptions and depictions of werewolves show them to look completely wolf like, not like some kind of man/dog hybrid and certainly not like the gorrila's popularised by Werewolf the Apocalypse.

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Ugh, typical dracophobic propaganda

Autismus maximus.

In the TES universe, that is how dragons look, ergo, they are dragons. Period.
Dragons don't have a specific "look" to them. Take a look at eastern (snake-like) dragons.

They won't be able to fly. They'd just be reskinned wolves with wings that do nothing. The Monster Mod already has things like that. It calls them Drakes.

To be fair originally a dragon was a pretty generic description of a monster. There were dragons without wings, dragons who don't breath fire, dragons with many legs, heads and eyes.

There is a dragon frog with poisonous breath in some legends in france.

Immersive Creatures eventually started to bother me with its obsession with keeping everything "lore-friendly". I added Monster Mod to have some more variety and because its creatures are a bit more creative.

Reminder that you can now fix skyrim's combat with 4 mods.
1. Tkdodge - Adds the ability to dodge.
2. Mortal Enemies - Deaimbots enemies(and yourself) by reducing turning speed mid-attack so enemies cannot do a 180 during an attack. Makes the first mod useful.
3. Grimy's Compat Patcher - Removes attribute bonuses of enemies(Health, Stamina, and magicka) so they don't turn into attack/magic spamming damage sponges.
4. SkyTweak - Lets you change many many values ingame like damage dealt/recieved multiplier. Balance the game however you want with this little mod.

This discussion is entirely redundant, the British felt the need to make a distinction between Dragons and Wyverns after hundreds of years of there not being one, presumably because they got fucking fed up of the confusion between the two.

So as to whether or not the Elder Scrolls dragons are dragons or not depends on if they're based on English mythology or not. And since it's quite clearly Scandinavian mythology. They are dragons.

Dragons are (usually) intelligent and can use magic and they have a breath attack, usually fire breath. Wyverns are dumb and have a poisonous stinger.

I still can't understand this man's obsession. He's also bad at figuring out what troll posting is.

I personally call ammo for pistols, clips. Maybe it triggers people.

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I could only get through reading like half of this thread.

What an interesting adventure. I'm proud of how collectively retarded and autistic we are, Holla Forums.

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oh shit nigger thanks, I just started playing it again and these look pretty helpful.

It triggers me and I'm even a nogunz non-/k/ommando

Magazines are containers that hold bullets, clips just stick them together. No modern pistol uses a clip, they're either revolvers or they use magazines with springs to push the bullets upwards. From my understanding, clips always have to be inserted from the top with a spring below them otherwise there's no mechanism for the bullets to get chambered.

These mods are nothing but a band-aid to the bad combat.
They help, but skyrim combat is on a fundamental level shit.

It's ok to call 'em clips if you use c96 from 1916

what's the purpose of even having sights on that thing?

It's mid loading in that pic.

If you are not familiar with the stripper clip firearms. You push the bullets inside the firearm. Then you can use the sights

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So there's a spring on the bottom to make the bullets function as they would in a magazine, correct?

Don't you know that's how the wise and ancient beings called dragons talk, user?

Nidhug is not a goddamn dragon! It's a snake!
"Nid" comes from the word "nidding" which basically means "honourless wretch" (the people it sucks the blood from as they pass by on the way to Hel), and "hug" comes from "hugorm" which is the Nordic name for a small poisonous snake.
Nidhogg is a giant snake, just like Jormungandr.
Unless you're talking about the beer, then Nidhug is a beer.

The term dragon is used pretty loosly when refering to serpentine or lizard like monsters from norse mythology.
Like Fafnir, Lindworms or that dragon Beowulf fights. Most translations agree that Nidhogg is a dragon. He's just the norse mythology version of one. One of several.

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He wasn't killing a dragon, he was killing a serpent / reptile.
"Свети Ђорђе убијах аждаху" is the saying in orthodox christianity, which translates to "Saint George slaying the beast / monster "
Aждахy (read Azh-dah-huh), a fancy form of the word аждаја, which means monster, great and terrifying beast , the devil

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That would be Jormungandr or Midgårdsormen in modern nordic, which is also very definitely a giant snake. It's specifically described as such in the eddas, as is Nidhogg.
I grew up on this shit since I was about 5 years old.

Man went full autistic that Skyrim had Wverns named "Dragon". So he changed the text in the entire game to go from "Dragon" to "Wyvern".

That's what a dragon is to western folklore you dipshit. Dragons are the representation of evil. They're not something to fuck, or to fight off with a weapon, or to negotiate with. They are representatives of Satan within the world, and only by calling upon the power of God can man find the strength to strike one down.

It can have two legs or four legs, wings or not wings, poison or flames. None of this matters. What matters is that the creature is a representation of corruption. Do all monsters qualify for this? No. Some are given specific names. Other reptiles, such as the Midgard Serpent, are specifically described as snakes because their motions represent a coiling force rather than independent action.

I want the casuals and otherkin to leave.

Wow what was wrong with the people in the dark ages?

I think you're confusing Christian imagery of the dragon with the pagan traditions, in which dragons were not evil, just terrible forces of ancient power.

The dragon Beowulf fights is not the World Serpent. How the hell can you be so fucking ignorant and then claim to have grown up on this shit? The dragon he fought was a cave-dwelling beast which was awakened when some faggot stole from its horde. The dragon then went out and burned the land until Beowulf killed it, breaking his sword in the process. It was a regular dragon.

The World Serpent is a completely different creature, wrapped about the world. It isn't an enemy humans can fight. In Norse folklore, it survives until Ragnarok, where it battles Thor. Thor manages to eventually strike it down, but is poisoned by the monster. He only makes it a few steps before collapsing. There are other stories before that showing their conflict, such as his attempt to go fishing for the giant serpent, and so forth.

Beowulf isn't part of the eddas. It is an anglo-saxon poem which has strong Christian influences to it.

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The user I was responding to was specifically discussing Saint George and Christian imagery, and incorrectly at that. Though you're right, I did get off topic around the second line.

In any event, dragons were very much portrayed as evil across Europe. Creatures like the Nidhogg may only be considered "sort of" evil, and there is certainly tragedy behind Fafnir and the like. But they're very much an inhuman force. They're creatures of nightmares.

DID SOMEBODY SAY "DRAGON"?

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That's clearly a Drake

What's the big commotion?

Some guy makes a small mod to change a bethesda mistake that has been noticed by everyone since before skyrim came out. His description are a bit autisitic, or perhaps some kind of strange passion.

It's of little consequence, not sure why everyone is wasting their time on this.

Corosar is not the only autist on the internet, you know.

No user, you are the autist.

It probably doesn't help that the mere mention of the word "spirituality" triggers certain euphoric individuals.

No you're thinking of Thors little fishing trip.
Beowulf, the guy who killed Grendel, fought a dragon too.

Most of Monster Mod's creatures are just taken from other games, and Immersive Creatures is far from lore-friendly unless you use an MCM menu setting to make it so.

Oh I thought you meant during the "swimming competition" in the movie, cause I'm pretty sure that was Jormungandr, unless I'm forgetting about some other giant sea serpent from Norse mythology.
I know about Thor's run-ins with Jormungandr like his fishing trip and when it was disguised as a Frost Giant Lord's pet cat.
Beowulf wasn't part of my childhood, as the Danish kids books and cartoons about Norse mythology stuck to just the Norse mythology.

Actually I was thinking about Beowulf's alleged "swimming competition".
Not sure if that was only in the movie, I only learned actual Norse mythology, not northern Germanic stuff.

I feel the same way about it. Ironic since its supposed to be set in Denmark.

From what I remember, his story of the swimming competition was in the tale, but it was not quite so action-packed nor do I remember him fucking a mermaid or whatever it was.

Jesus christ, those hips.

So he "did" "fight" Jormungandr (which is still not a dragon, just like Nidhogg) according to the myth.

Nidhogg IS a dragon in damned near all translations. Sometimes also serpent. The two words are used interchangeably in norse mythology.
Just like Linnormr, the wingless bipedal dragon, who sometimes had wings, of whom Jormungandr is supposed to be the biggest, and who often get classified as a dragon.

Jormungandr wasn't in the original swimming contest. Beowulf says he killed nine sea monsters. That's it.

:^)

Translations don't mean shit. It's a serpent in all the original language writings.

Was it like that in the movie too? My recollection of it is fuzzy.

He fought several sea serpents in the movie, though I'm not sure if he just mentioned them as general monsters or if they were supposed to be something specific.

Translation is the only reason a welsh dragon is a dragon and not a ddraig.
Every single culture on the planet has its own ideas about what monsters are about in their mythologies. Anywhere in medieval europe, a giant monstrous snake the size of a house with poison blood that it could spit at people would have been referred to as the local equivalent of a dragon. That's why when translating the norse word for this monster to english, it is referred to as a dragon. If you can't wrap your head around that kind of comparisons, nowhere on the planet other than england has ever had "dragons". Many will have had large lizard or snake like monsters that may have had wings, may have had 4 or 2 or no legs and may have breathed fire, but none of them would be dragons, but rather the local word for such things instead..
This is the fundamental concept of a TRANSLATION. To use the rough equivalent words in another language to pass along an idea or concept. Hence, what the scandinavians called a Linnormr would have been called a dragon in england.