WW2 History Lesson Request

Newfag here,
why did Hitler invade Poland?
what role did Russia play?
why were poles targeted for concentration camps?
were the polish detainees simply prisoners of war?
Please provide as full an accounting as possible. I consider verifiable sources to also be essential in this.

Before criticising me as lazy, please note, I tried to find a convincing alternative narrative through my own research, and cannot find much of anything beyond the official libestraum explanation.

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archive.org/details/HitlersRevolutionByRichardTedor_383
fpp.co.uk/books/Hitler/2001/HW_Web_dl.pdf
media.8ch.net/pdfs/src/1427623988562-0.pdf
ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p205_Hoggan.html
ihr.org/other/what-the-world-rejected.html>>9964466
lovkap.blogspot.com/2015/11/why-did-kristallnacht-happen.html
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

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search for "TGSNT".

good job goy

thank you, I'll give that a serious look.

I really don't know how to tell you this but no site i going to be impartial. All (((official))) sites will be extremely anti - Germany and biased towards themselves while site that give information they wouldn't tell you will inform you of things you may not have heard about before but will definitely be biased towards Germany so take everything with a grain of salt. But if you want I'll try to explain the situation to you the best way I can

I generally am critical of received information, everyone has an angle right?
but if you can offer something which is more reasonable than the (((official))) narrative..
.. then that would go greatly appreciated, even if i do not find it fully satisfactory.
as it stands, in my country, there will never be a debate on the narrative, so any alternative is valuable by virtue of its taboo nature.

before you do that, remember that Hitler didn't actually intend to kill any "Jews"; the ones that died died because the allies bombed some supply lines, causing them to starve to death at some "concentration" camp

No the quality of Holla Forums is going down and this thread almost word for fucking word pops up every couple of weeks. Lurk more or go to QTDDTOT

Strongly recommend this book.

the recent redpill thread highlighted some key holocaust story issues for me, mainly a couple of lengthy videos, there was one with the revisionist kid who went to Auschwitz in 92, and another more up to date one which was more personally relevant as it tackled the footage i was shown in school, the Oprah propaganda piece in particular.
i appreciate the forewarning, but I'm on the same page so far as the extermination camps are concerned.
besides, there is a historical precedent of European leaders expelling Jews, whereas there is no such precedent for total extermination, making it that much more likely IMO.

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For the same reason the Soviets invaded Finland: to get a buffer zone. You don't want to start the war with the lines close to your country.

Poland was the Lebenstraum so Poles had to be moved somewhere else in Eastern Europe.

About a hundred of them.

That sounds right but what about SS death squads.
I don't accept Holohoax and think generalplan ost is obviously fabricated but the death squads seem real.
Compared to the allied bombing campaigns it hardly stands out, after all it was war right? But what's Holla Forumss opinion about them?

well if you would prefer to be insular, and make sure only "quality shitposters" are allowed in, then you really ought to do your duty and call the mods for a 10 day ban.
god forbid that newfags who have similar questions would ask them.

So basically the situation was as follows: After the Protectorate of Bohemia-Moravia was established as well as Independent Slovakia (A German puppet state) Germany set its sites on the city of Danzig. The city was I believe over 90% German and had been established as a free city by the League of Nations (Basically it's own country) However it was forced into economic union with Poland despite it's overwhelming German majority. Now the population in Danzig wished to be reunited with Germany because the unification of Germans in Austria and Czechoslovakia had gone well. Throughout 1939 to the outbreak of war Hitler wished to bargain with the Poles for the city. The Poles did not wish to comprise for a multitude of reasons. They did not trust Germany and believed that they would end up like Czechoslovakia if they conceded to German demands. Additionally the Poles and the Germans have never gotten along and their history of conflict stretches back long before the countries Poland and Germany even appeared on a map. Perhaps the greatest reason however was that they had been guaranteed by the allies and were thus a bit arrogant in their thinking (The Polish leader believed his army would be marching into Berlin within a week and indeed when the Germans entered Warsaw they found a painting of him atop a horse riding under the Brandenburg Gate atop the tattered remains of the German flag - not offence to Poles that that kind of hubris gets you into deep trouble) Anyway, Hitler presented Poland with a (I don't remember the exact number but a something (number) point plan for peace in Europe) The points are actually very fair all things considered and would not necessarily go in Germany's favor. Poland would not discuss these points (The Polish government in exile after escaping to Romania would admit that they should have gone with Hitler's deal) but they were too heavily influenced by Britain, France and secretly America as Polish documents in Warsaw would reveal (Germany published these findings in the German White Book which was actually distributed in America although the translation was made purposefully unreadable so Americans couldn't know the truth) Anyway, Hitler asked Great Britain to mediate but the Poles would not budge. There was a general mobilization on Poland's part (Some argue that this was tantamount to a declaration of war) there were lufthansa (Commercial aircraft from Germany to East Prussia) being shot down as well some posturing that Poland was going to annex East Prussia and move the German frontier to its modern day borders (I guess the Poles got what they wanted in the end then) Many confuse the slaughter of Germans that occurred in Bromberg (A German city in Poland) as a reason for Hitler's invasion and that is wrong. It makes us look like we don't know what we are talking about. However there was certainly violence towards ethnic German in the Polish corridor and Hitler said I believe that there may have been up to 85, 000 refugees arriving in Berlin in 1939. There was a radio broadcast where the Poles eerily said something along the lines 'you may think you've won but the Fuhrer is far away and we have you now', probably to intimidate them into discontinuing their support for Hitler. But there was certainly violence against Germans, farms being burnt down, people driven out of their homes. Hitler scheduled the invasion for 27th August 1939 or 28th. But he decided he would give it one more go and postponed the invasion until the 1st of September. The Poles didn't even bother showing up. Hitler had enough and on the 1st of September the German army marched into Poland

that's valid militarily, but i have heard it said quite often on here that Hitler never wanted war, and I think the British guarantee was already in place prior to the invasion.
it would seem to me that the buffer zone argument is only a partially the motivation, as the surrounding circumstances (alliances) would make this a case of shooting yourself in the foot, assuming your aim is the uplifting of your people.

This is the first time I've ever seen this thread. Fuck off, kike.

Here, OP. I hope these are of use to you.

Also, here is an enormous redpill on Hitler and WWII that an user wrote a while back that I saved. It should answer a lot of your questions I believe.

>>>/pdfs/5984

Also a note for everyone on the Molotov - Ribbentrop Pact. The Pact was signed and was to be activated IF AND ONLY IF Germany went to war with Poland. If Hitler had found a peaceful compromise with the Poles the Pact would never have been activated and Hitler detested it from the start. The only reason he signed the pact was because he believed that if both Germany and Russia attacked at the same time then Britain and France wouldn't declare war on either of them for fear of being at war with both of them at the same time. Something not many people know is that Stalin was late (On purpose) He made the Red Army march into Poland one or two weeks later to take the heat off of him and claim he was just protecting minorities instead of invading like he actually was. Hitler actually offered to restore Western Poland (Minus those areas that had been part of Germany prior to 1919) and help rebuild and pay all damages. Stalin pressured Hitler saying it would be 'in the spirit of the M-R Pact if Poland remained off the map and at that time Hitler couldn't say no with the Western allies refusing to budge (No two - front war strategy) This offer to restore Poland was actually the first of Hitler's peace offers to the Western allies. He didn't expect them to declare war at all (But Stalin outmaneuvered him there) so he changed his thinking, naively believing that once the allies saw how fast Poland fell they would see the futility in continuing a war no one wanted. They didn't. Most likely because (((they))) wouldn't allow it and because like WW1 they were afraid of Germany being the economic center of Europe (That one didn't work out too well for them either) I recommend Richard Tedor's: Hitler's Revolution. Extremely good and explanatory.

user, do you have a source for this? I've been around for a while but this is the first I've heard of it. I'm quite interested and would like to read more.

I believe this is actually in Richard Tedor's: Hitler' Revolution which can be downloaded as PDF if you search it right now. It not only gives an extremely valuable insight into NS an an ideology but explains all the major foreign policy decisions made by Hitler. It's also well sourced and has received very positive reviews . I don't think the man is a National Socialist but he does seem to lament Germany's defeat and let's be honest. Who would defend Germany unless they really believed in the cause.

so i am puling a few key talking points here:

then comes the image of a German tank rolling over winged hussars.
broadly speaking, am i missing anything?

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thanks to treaty of rapallo from '22 soviet-german cooperation flourishing, soviet generals teach german officers (and vice versa), USSR let germany build facilities, where then can test tanks, heavy guns and other stuff forbidden for them by Treaty of Versailles
it kinda slowed down after hitler rise to power, but still worked, ended with Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and continue till '41
read Suvorov's "Icebreaker" if you want to know more OP

Here's a download link just in case you want to save time and not have to buy it on Amazon

archive.org/details/HitlersRevolutionByRichardTedor_383

i smell bullshit

too much to digest here and now, but thank you, I have saved it and marked it to read

note the question mark dingus. I am in disbelief myself.
that being said if you can offer sources, then please do so, I screen capped your post so i can investigate point by point, but if you could offer valid sources here, it would be that much faster.

Yes however Danzig differs from Luxembourg in that Danzig is actually German and not some mix of French and German influence. Danzig wished wholeheartedly to be reunited with Germany. The NSDAP won the election in Danzig as well as proof of the legitimacy of Hitler's mandate. Remember that only some argue that Poland mobilization was an act of war. The Poles say it was only a half mobilization and therefore didn't violate International Law. The Lufthansa planes being shot down may have been accidental as the Luftwaffe did acquire planes from the Lufthansa for military purposes (The Poles may have thought it was an invasion and fired at it accordingly) The Poles weren't planning their own invasion though, they just believed the German army was a paper tiger, that together with France and Britain they would roll over it in less than two weeks. Also I made another post about the Soviets role so don't forget that. But otherwise yes that is generally what happened but as always research it for yourself and don't just take my word for it

I don't know if Hitler wanted a war, but the Soviet sure did. Passively wait for the tanks is not an option when you want to ensure a future for your people.

Read the works by Hitler+table talk then this
fpp.co.uk/books/Hitler/2001/HW_Web_dl.pdf

the nature of this thread is a primer for my investigations and eventual informed opinion.
you've provided me specifics to research, so thank you, this is already a great help.

And basically everything about Prussia and a bit about German history in general.

and I don't suppose any of the allied nations would help defend Germany in such a scenario?
would the Russian invasion on guaranteed Poland have happened without German backing?
seriously asking here.

Thank you user. I just downloaded it.

media.8ch.net/pdfs/src/1427623988562-0.pdf

No. The Soviets were only to launch their attack in the event that Germany attacked first. It was their way of ensuring that they wouldn't be seen as the initial aggressors. The entire pact itself would only come into play if Hitler was forced to choose war and he himself wanted a diplomatic solution before anything else. Stalin outwitted Hitler however and struck two weeks later claiming to just be entering a failed state to protect minorities (I'm totally not invading guys) Hitler knew what he was doing and was furious. However Hitler naively believed he could bargain with the British and French. They on the other hand now had there chance. A quick war to defeat Germany and secure their economic dominance. Germany however gave them a real run for their money. One they certainly weren't expecting.

the only aspect of these talking points which does not fit into the larger narrative i have been given is the early peace talk, particularly the impartial list you mentioned.
if you could refer me to a source, or offer the document name or something that would help me search for this document, it would be very beneficial.

i don't think so
soviets attacking poland without any backing or help would pull a rope on their necks
hitler will probably go help poland because he did not want red army so close to berlin
UK also would have been involed mostly because their doctrine of balancing powers on continental europe

On a side note that's what I really hate about retarted Cuckchanners with their uninformed opinions. 'Why didn't Hitler let the Soviets attack first?' 'Why did he attack based Poles?' He should have let the Soviets attack and then teamed up with Britain to push the communists of of Europe'. I laugh so much when they say these things and then I sigh and become sad that they'll never know the truth.

That is false, it is because of American interference and

Interference that central Europe was a multi-ethnic mess due to border recognition in spite of unresolved post WW1 conflicts*. Posted too soon by accident.

Do you mean the 25 Point Plan? (It may not be 25 but I know it exists, I've read it before and it was in American newspapers) I'll try and find the link.

Sorry, not 25 (That's the NSDAP Party Program) I think it was 13 point plan. I'll try and find it for you

i see two conflicting opinions here, the former seems to hold that the waiting and integrating method may have been best.
the latter seems to think this would never have worked.
could war have not been almost entirely avoided if the Germans hadn't colluded with the Russians?

Are you suggesting that the Poles trusted the Germans? I'm not saying Central Europe wasn't a multi-ethnic mess (It most certainly was and this was one of the prime motivators for WW2) but the Poles definitely didn't trust Germany.

i suppose that would be the one, i could just google that and likely find something.
biased or not, something that specific must be hard to miss if specifically searched for

Well the other user's theory is probably true. If the USSR did attack Poland and Germany knew she would have England's support then she most certainly would have helped Poland (Teaming up England was Hitler's dream) I was just saying that cuckchanners ask the stupid questions I listed above without knowing the information I spoke about previously. I don't actually hold those opinions - they are quite frankly retarded.

this then begs the question i offered at the beginning;
it appears that even in-situ, an agreement with Russia against Poland would appear to be a partisan action which almost guaranteed a massive war.

Under Treaty of Versailles 1919, Jewish Bankers cut Germany in pieces and gifted it to other nations. A piece of Germany - Alsace-Lorraine was gifted to France, a piece of Germany - Eupen and Malmedy was gifted to Belgium, a piece of Germany - Northern Schleswig was gifted to Denmark, a piece of Germany - Hultschin was gifted to Czechoslovakia, a pieces of Germany - West Prussia, Posen and Upper Silesia was gifted to Poland, several pieces of Germany - Saar, Danzig and Memel were brought under league of Nations Some of this land was gifted to Poland and some made into new states of Estonia, Lithuania and Latavia.

100,000 tonnes of pure gold; The total sum due to be paid by Germany as war reparations was decided by these heavily Jewish Inter-Allied Reparations Commission at 269 billion gold marks (the equivalent of around 100,000 tonnes of pure gold).

1923, France was first to defy treaty of Versailles when it sent troops to occupy Ruhr, Germany.

January 13th 1935, Saar Region; Ninety per cent of Saar Region voted for reincorporation with the German Reich. Saar was reunited with fatherland. No shot was fired.

March 7, 1936, Rhineland; when German forces entered Rhineland, there was Jubilation on the streets of Rhineland. Rhineland reunited with Fatherland. No shot was fired.

March 12 1938; Austria When the German troops arrived in Austria and Austrian Troops arrived in Berlin, Dresden etc on reunification on March 12, 1938, they found the streets lined with cheering crowds who greeted them with the Nazi salute, showered them with confetti and threw flowers at their feet. No shot was fired. On April 10, 1938, 99% Austrians voted in favor of union with Germany.

September 1938, Sudetenland; British government sent Lord Runciman to the Sudetenland. In his report on 16 September 1938 he wrote: "I have great sympathy for the cause of the Sudeten Germans. It is difficult to be governed by a foreign nation, and my impression is that Czechoslovak rule in the Sudetenland displays such a lack of tact and understanding, and so much petty intolerance and discrimination, that dissatisfaction among the German population must inevitably lead to outrage and rebellion."

No, I was saying that the German army fled Gdańsk from the Boshlevisks and Poles took over, and due to American recognition of only "indisputably" Polish land, which in turn set foundations for other countries recognition inspite of current governance and other complexities such as legality of German expulsion granted by the Western Alliance, was the main issue of the Polish nation against Germany. It could've been eaisly avoided without foreign interference, and probably wouldn't have led to German invasion.

ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p205_Hoggan.html
ihr.org/other/what-the-world-rejected.html>>9964466
ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p205_Hoggan.html

These are good reads but very long.

As to your question, Hitler took a gamble. He truly believed that if he and Stalin invaded at the same time the Western allies wouldn't intervene. Stalin tricked him and attacked two weeks later putting all the blame on Germany. Apparently von Ribbentrop (Foreign minister) had assured him the French wouldn't interfere and there actually had been an agreement spoken of which gave Germany (The mistaken) impressions that France had just said that Eastern Europe is Germany's sphere of influence.

September 7 November 1938; Sudetenland; The Czech Government voluntarily agreed to relinquish the Sudeten districts since these regions were populated entirely by Germans. Sudetenland was reunited with Fatherland. No shot was fired.

Danzig Poland; had 95% ethnic Germans and had with 97.6% majority had voted against forcibly union with Poland. Unification of Danzig was last of territory which remained to be reunited with Fatherland. Hitler merely wanted the people to decide their fate.

Plebiscite; It was important to allow plebiscite in all areas which had been forcibly cut from Germany when Germany was cut in several pieces by International Bankers / Rothschild’s / Jews for sake of their personal gain. A four-power conference was suggested which would preserve the peace.

The four powers were Great Britain, Germany, France and Italy. They were to meet to allow plebiscite in all German dominated areas forcibly cut away from Germany in war treaty of 1919.

This meet was not to be since;

November 7, 1938, Paris; A few weeks after the Munich Agreement and shortly before the journey to Paris of the German Foreign Minister, Von Ribbentrop, a Polish Jew, Herschel Feibel Grynszpan murdered the German Third Secretary of State, Ernst von Rath, in the German Embassy in Paris. The five bullets fired put an end to extension of the Munich Agreement, to revise the Treaty of Versailles to fix the damage that was done to Europe after WW1 by allowing plebiscite in all German dominated areas.

November 9-10, 1938; Kristallnacht was reaction of Germans whereby they vented their anger by breaking window panes of some shops in reaction to above assassination. The name Kristallnacht comes from the shards of broken glass that littered the streets after Jewish-owned shops, stores, buildings, and synagogues had their windows smashed.

lovkap.blogspot.com/2015/11/why-did-kristallnacht-happen.html

I'm sorry I'm a bit confused. So correct me if I'm wrong but what you are saying is that the main issue of the Polish nation against Germany was the legality of the expulsion of ethnic Germans after WW2?

meaning that the molotov- ribentrop pact was intended to be a joint coordinated invasion by both sides initiated at the same time by both parties and only with German instigation.
however, soviets delayed their obligatory invasion, meaning that the allied forces had little or no incentive not to immediately declare war on germany, by the time soviets entered poland, germany was fighting a war on two fronts.
is this correct?

Now now, we know whose side we are on here but you shouldn't omit the information about what happened to the rest of Czechoslovakia. It makes us look disingenuous. It doesn't make us look bad anyway. What happened was legitimate and under the circumstances completely understandable and unavoidable

I didn't write that though, I just took the info from the blog in the spoiler tag. I've been reading this thread avidly for all the new info I'm garnering.

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Your first point is correct. The intention of the pact was a joint German - Russian offensive against Poland in tandem but only if Germany made the first move. Germany would only make the first move if a diplomatic solution could not be found.

Your second point is half right. The Soviets did delay their invasion (They claimed they were unprepared - Stalin knew what he was doing) which meant the allied forces had little incentive to fight the USSR.

Technically speaking as Germany was at war with both the Western allies and Poland that would constitute a two front war. However Poland's rapid defeat meant that this factor was negated until 1941 with the invasion of the USSR.

So yes otherwise correct.

Oh my apologies then. I suspected you were getting it from another site. Keep learning user, information is ammunition in this struggle for history.

Sorry about the poor wording then, to put it simply it Poles were granted the legal right to exclude Germans from Polish lands after it begun informally, and when Piłsudski was arrested and a Western backed democracy was installed, Gdańsk, which was under Polish control at the time, was granted back to Germany by America before Poles could "finish" the work which started the bickering of one side, the Poles, having then legal and now militaristic rites to the city with Germany's later defacto legal borders that overwrit Poland's Allied granted benefits and overlapped eachother, which lead to frustration on both sides as making the city independent was an even bigger retarded "band aid" by the allies.

To the West, yes, but to Eastern and Central territories it was all Germany's making, "Mitteleuropa" engineered as to create a series of German vassal states both for protection against mosteastern countries, to exploit and monopolize their economies as to create reliance upon and profit from imports, and eventual reabsorption when their nationalistic ideas have been culled.
Voice of the people does not matter when might is right has been Europe's doctrine for millennia, a notion I agree with when an exception was suddenly bestowed upon the looser, as I said before, the German army fled the region thus was no longer under their control, but there shouldn't have been any interference from the start.

table talk is fake

the war was inevitable

Oh you meant after WW1. Are you Polish by any chance?

What about Hitler's Zweites Buch? That's not fake as far as I know. Would you consider that reliable?

Yes I'm Polish, and not directly after WW1, the issue still remained at large which eventually lead to Hitler's demand for a corridor to the city when its fate was left to central powers, Gdańsk was a seen as a major national victory for Polish eyes and so was reconnecting with the Baltic at large (see: Polands wedding to the Sea) so when one then the other happened there could be no compromise as it would deteriorate our sovereign status and eventually coax us into German dictat over our affairs.

do you have a webm of this?

To be honest, when a great power listens to the demands of a country that didn´t even exist before WWI, it seizes to be a great power. Did Britain ever bargain with the Irish? Did Russia argue with smaller neighbours? Did the United States ask for permission when they decided to have colonies? No, they took everything by force because that is what great powers do.

The fuck are you talking about you retard.

Sadly not.
I am still not capable of doing quality webms in small size so i rather not try it.

Ah I see. I was aware that Poland wouldn't accept the loss of the Baltic Coast. However I think I should make it aware that Hitler was aware that the Poles felt economically vulnerable if they lost access to the sea so the plan included a clause that Poland would keep Gdynia and access to Danzig much like Lithuania would still have access to Memel so Poland wouldn't have been cut off from the sea. Also Danzig wasn't technically part of Poland so it wasn't really within Poland's right to tell it what to do. Would you agree?

shame, but i now have motivation to learn how to convert youtube videos to mp4. thanks user.

that I'm not sure


of course he is. they will never admit their fault.
poles are number one faggots forcing the holohoax after the kikes themselves

Nice try, Hans.

The treaty of Versailles have been rough because the French still remembered what the Germans did after 1870: they asked for way too much money to be reasonably paid, occupied the land for 3 years and behaved the way they wanted to. There is a reason the French didn't gave a shit how many people died in the trenches and were assholes when they won the war. It was just fair.

What do you mean by "technically"? I do not agree, because it was with German and American sudden resort to diplomatic resolution, which favored the Germans, overwrite their imposed legalities as a way of mutual compromise that would've landed in our further benefit otherwise, and general ignorance of the regions ethnic problems when it came to recognition of borders that was the handing over of Gdańsk which WAS under Polish control, its like saying the Holy Roman Empire couldn't tell Warsaw what to do.

Are you disputing the regions German character? Apart from the city of Metz the entire region was German. So yes indeed Alsace Lorraine = German

But Danzig wasn't part of Poland in between the World Wars. It was free state, economically bound to Poland but independent in every other regard. If you mean from the Polish perspective that if was a part of Poland then that wouldn't really matter in regards to international law would it? That's like saying Konigsberg is still part of Germany from a German perspective. Maybe to the Germans it will always be part of their country but legally speaking it is Russia's.

is the war itself not proof enough that you're wasting your time?

i just want to thank the anons who have contributed to this thread. while i remain sceptical of Hitlers pro ported benevolence, I now have a wealth of resources to study the validity of the official narrative.
Thank you anons, you're doing the work of teachers and scholars unburdened by overlords.

Napoleon destroyed the Holy Roman Empire and shat all over Germany and yet only a few decades later, the French had the nerve to declare war on Germany again to prevent a new German Empire.

Well if we are supposed to be doing this whole 'one big white family' stuff then I guess we have to try to get along with one another. Besides not all Poles are the same.

To be honest I don't some big white consciousness is going to arise in Europe because resentment is still strong. I see it on cuckchan all the time (Yeah yeah I go there sometimes because this place is sometimes slow) but German users especially are torn down delay mostly by Brits and Poles and others join in from time to time. No German nationalist worth his salt is happy over the loss of Prussia and I don't see Polish and German nationalists coming to any sort of agreement without violence. Maybe America can have this white solidarity thing but Europeans don't get along at all unless they have a shared friendship together.

It was after WW1, wrong, Poland had no international recognition yet.
Is anything getting to you at all? Let me repeat myself again, the city was under Polish military control, it WAS a part of Poland, but remained ethnically German because of Piłsudskis arrest which postponed their explusion which was legal and a might makes right doctorine anyway; a legality overwrit by the Americans when they GAVE AWAY it to the Germans, and later made it a free city as to calm down both parties, it wasnt a free city by its own will, they didn't fight any wars for independence, which was the reason for conflict between us.

OK so what you are saying is that during the Polish revolts Danzig was captured by Polish forces and made a part of Poland. But you said Poland had no international recognition yet so that didn't count. It wouldn't matter if Polish rebels captured Berlin and suddenly established Poland. It wasn't internationally recognized so legally speaking the annexation wasn't legitimate. Military control doesn't imply ownership. Warsaw was under military control under the Germans from 1939 - 1944 but that didn't make it a part of Germany now did it.

TGSNT

Wasn't captured, Germans were told to leave as to prompt up Polish-German relations and did so.
By your own self imposed retarded rules, that is? Please, enlighten me further on how it doesn't, because White Ruthenia (Belorussia) didn't exist for half a millennia when Russia's mostwestern territory was annexed and eventually absorbed into Poland - but their existence within remained, similar situation with Lithuania and Ukraine, it could not be recognized FORMALLY as Poland was a lead by a band of warlords that had no legal representative after Piłsudskis arrest by German design, which left a hole that the Germans attempted to nurture to their benefit in an attempt to stop bleeding land by installing the Kingdom of Poland which failed due to German army deterioration and now Polish aggression in RECOGNIZED German - but Polish controlled -regions. You're opinionated, retarded, or wilfully ignorant as to ignore the strategic and valuable asset that is international and domestic recognition; Germany didn't want to give up on the land its lost and England didn't want to risk another European power to compete with.
Legally speaking, wew lad keep on pulling out of your ass, when it wasn't established upon where the boundaries would sit as the ongoing conflict wasn't over before Germany attempted to write their own, later objected because of such military annexations, borders. So I'm guessing North Korea and Israel don't exist either, huh?
Yes it did? We were a state as to cull constant and expensive revolutions, and eventually absorb us into greater Germany like in the case of early middle ages Prussians.

Alright, so German forces left Danzig and the Polish moved in. I know Poland was established during WW1 by Germany but I assumed that its status as a nation was dissolved after Germany's defeat and then established again by the allies at Versailles. North Korea and Israel are both recognized by the international community so I don't know how they compare to revolt by an ethnic group in what was still legally Germany trying to cause an insurrection to bring their own country back but whatever. Warsaw was not part of Germany, it was a part of the Generalgovournement not annexed directly into Germany. And before you say Generalplan Ost the evidence for it existing is extremely strenuous and shows no evidence that Hitler approved or even knew about it so you don't know that it would be absorbed into Greater Germany. And lastly, don't be so upset, I'm not attacking you in anyway I just don't understand your rationalization for your claims.

Lurk more, faggot.

Hitler offered many peace plans to all of the countries that bordered Germany. This is simply the last one of them.