The new family?

The nuclear family isn't coming back. As long as women have basic freedom in society, they will always resist it and monogamy. Women no longer have to depend on men for an income, and can "fend for themselves" by earning an equal wage, something that wasn't always possible.

But here's an interesting fact:

In many species of animals, the men stay together in packs and only are with women to breed. The mother raises the children alone.

Which is basically the life of a single mother. When you really think about it, it makes more sense when you account for human nature. When a father raises a daughter, he feels like a cuck whenever she gets a boyfriend. He spend time, money, and love into her only so another man can fuck her. But he doesn't have the same feelings for a son, so it doesn't matter to him.

On the other hand, a mother never cares if either her daughter or her son have sex.

So it may be better for humanity to abandon the notion of fatherhood altogether, and get into the single mother norm.

The only problem I feel is that a lot of brothers are protective of their sisters and also have a psuedo-relationship with them. Maybe boys should join the male pack by the time they're 10 years old or so?

I want to know what you guys think

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As you can see, the more financial independence women get, the less they want fatherhood/monogamy

If feminism continues in its current tracks, will we become a deer society?

Sage

Human nature is a spook

No it's not it can manifest even if society pretends it doesn't exist

Here's an interesting fact:

In many species of animals, the female eats the male after copulating

But there's a correlation of women moving to a single mother society the more independent they get, is what I'm trying to say. Have we had humans wrong this entire time?

It's just your fucked US culture. USSR brought equality to women and men and maintained strong family values

Fun fact: multi-generational households are increasing all over the west as yuppie-fads are fading away.

That's just not true

Humans are monogamous by nature. We just have the tendency to mix promiscuous strategies opportunistically with it, also by nature.

Base your shit on reality and try again.

I live in a multi-generational household. But mostly because my sister and I were never able to find good enough jobs to live alone comfortably and my grandparents retirement money dried up

So? You are yet to make a case for causation. Proofs please.

Causation of what? Is this not enough?

Wages have also not kept up with inflation and productivity.

You would think that might make women more dependent on the man to make enough peanuts to support a kid and maybe pay for a shitty apartment.

nice right-wing meme, OP

Will we see marriage become an obsolete system in our lifetimes?

No it's not enough. There is a correlation between balding and wealth. Does that makes getting bald making money?

It's already barely more than a commodity and a few taxes advantages nowadays.

Wait until technology REALLY hits it off, OP, when we can program our future children to just behave and be smart without any other human input at all.

Sounds miserable tbh. why even live at that point? Literally the only reason I'm politically involved is to ensure my future children have a better life than me.

you don't have to live if you don't want to

The world and science March on, is that not a better life? I'm a bit of a technocrat and have little desire to have a connection with my potential children. Sorry if I sound miserable or cold-hearted or whatever.

[citation needed]

Why are you even going to have children if you won't even deal with them? I hope they kill you for being a piece of shit father

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user why you gotta keep posting sexy deers?

familial relations are just a spook my friend.

Que buen meme. So epic.

Well i'm not that guy, but it could be to spread your genes.
Still not makes it less shitty tho…

Cry about it, faggot.

We call it a spook because literally everything we is in our nature, and in case you haven't noticed, we don't do the same things for that long.

So our society would become both matrilineal and matrilocal, correct? Sounds fun

Is he evolving or losing his mind?

I'm guessing you didn't have normal parents growing up. Like, you had a shitty mum or something? My mother tripped the fuck out when my sister and I started bringing home partners.

It's not a meme though, the concept of a family will die as our material conditions improve. There won't be a reason to need a family because people will no longer be dependent on each other.

Behavioral neuroscience isn't a spook.

Excellent shitpost, dr Oak.

Yes most people will become r selected prey without any loyalty to each other or a sense of common interests.

I really like him, he might be a bit bitter, but he's pretty reasonable person to discuss in comparison with your average Holla Forumslack.


Wow rude

Men are fucking degenerate and should be forcibly euthanized.

Holla Forums is creationist tier.

Most of Holla Forums never read Sturnur, what else did you expect?

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Yeah and everyone would be depressed as fuck and want to kill themselves constantly because of feelings of social isolation and lack of human attachment.

Much like how you feel every day.

Ravens mate for life but infidelity is not uncommonly observed.

So you want to base our behaviors off of neolithic nomads?

ebin

Paleolithic*

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_of_despair


xD

Good, that retard couldn't even run a milk shop, nobody should read him.

Human nature is what determines change in behavior with change of material conditions. Without that base nature Marxist theory would fall flat on it's ass. Tabula rasa is a lie.

Our minds are more complex than mice

Haha, oh you.

Yes. So? We dont know what that human nature is so using it as an argument is retarded.

There are still females that want to invest in their children instead of shitting out a ton of babies and investing nothing in any of them( birth control has sabotaged this reproductive strategy resulting in these females having very few or no children and therefore these traits will not be passed on as much).

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Holla Forums is creationist tier. Fucking cultists.

Can you even describe what "human nature" actually is?

just posting "X is human nature" is creationist-tier

If we don't know what it is then how can we predict behavior changes brought on by changes in material conditions?

I guess it's in bovine nature to be dependant on humans to do everything for them. Human nature is a spook becuase it's a completely meaningless buzzword that haunts the minds of idiots into acting like retards.

No denying that biology determines behavior is creationist tier.

This thread is embarrassing to read

Educated guesses.

Also the primary goal of socialism isnt some grand sceme of things of superiour global acting, but its self interest of the working class.

if we can change the way a human behaves by changing the material conditions, then how can you imply there is a set of parameters which you consider to be "human nature"


how do you come up with the conclusion that "cultural marxism", feminism and other spooky shit is againts human nature?

It is bovine nature to eat and breed and escape predators by letting them kill some of their kind instead of fighting back as an organized herd. All r selected prey animals do this. They allow their own domestication because they get to eat and breed in relative safety while humans kill a few of them. This is acceptable to bovines.

They are also more complex than wolves or lions, yet retards like OP are constantly comparing humans to animals they have nothing in common with because they are desperate to find evidence to support their idea of what "human nature" is.

Oh i thought bovine nature was to fucking run for it before buffalo bill gets to you. it's almost like it's completely different depending on the circumstances and impossible to nail down to a single thing.

Where did I come up with that conclusion? I don't remember typing any of that out.

We can also change the way animals behave by changing their material conditions. If you feed a pack of wild dogs any scraps and leftovers you have they will be less likely to attack you and more likely to hang around and help defend you from more dangerous predators. Even Chimps have been observed doing this with wild dogs.

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I never implied you wrote it, I am asking you what is your basis used to determined that certain human behaviour isn't "human nature"

yup

ok
so let me see if I understand, its "dog nature" to want to attack humans if hungry and to protect them if they are fed by humans

yet by domesticating the animal even if its hungry it won't attack me

what is the "dog nature" in this case?

nice spooks

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"b-but socialism is againts human nature :^)"

wtf is wrong with fascists? funny how they call everyone else [email protected]/* */

relative to what? gravity?
haha

Wait, hold on. I thought human nature was that we are all greedy assholes that want to sell our babies for gold. or maybe it was that rich people form one country won't sell people from the same country out, that one might be wrong. it's probably that human are inherently good people and that bad people are people whos story we haven't yet heard, no thats probably just some liberal saying. I'm so confused. I'm sure human nature is something and a fixed concept. wait i got it, it's that jews are telepathic and have a inherited desire to see the west burn, no? Geez this immutable thing seems to change a lot.

I didn't even say anything about human nature.

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I didn't even say anything about human nature.

What?
newscientist.com/article/dn14817-polygamy-left-its-mark-on-the-human-genome/

Women were basically forced to be a part of the nuclear family by society. If women's rights, which made them freer to choose, did not destroy the nuclear family then what did?

The passage came from this book, page 183:
books.google.com/books?id=p6LzAgAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

dictionary.com/browse/relative

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What do you mean? Stalinist USSR was nationalistic and traditionalist, why do you think homosexuality was illegal?

Capitalism, which forced woman and children into the workforce. A family can't support themselves when they're getting their a fraction of what they produce back through wages.

equality of men and women will only make men as monogamous as women

women are naturally monogamous and dependent on a single men in such a society as ours (i.e. a society that does not depend on hunting and such which would require the work of more people)

If you are going to appeal to nature, then why do you lament that the Nuclear Family is falling apart because of "natural behavior" in women?

Mate, moms are some of the most prudish and hard-assed cuckservatives out there. They get periods from even suspecting that their daughters and sons have sex. (Especially the former.) I can attest to this from personal experience.

Parents just have this urge to protect children, and under-age sex is rightfully considered taboo.

Also, I honestly never really "protected" my sisters. At most, I try to guide my younger one to be less of a normie faggot, to mixed results. The SJW media and Disney is dulling her brains out (She's dangerously close to Tumblr) and the only game she's played to a great extent was Splatoon and Minecraft. Maybe someday, she'll become as woke as me and realize the bullshit. But, I'm not counting on it. I guess it's better for her, since my life is pretty shit to be quite frank.

My older sister was bit protective of me when I was younger, but we usually just leave each other alone. She's a vapid normie dumbass, but she's gotten better. (She was full on female jock/chad when younger.)

Honestly, I just want women to be forced to register for selective service and get a fucking job. The less gold-diggers, soccer moms, and welfare-queen single moms we have, the better.