Italy's Minister Council to present decree to make vaccines compulsory

Antivax has been around since vaccinations were invented; but the most recent craze is because some celebrity read a flawed study that linked vaccination with autism. Since autism is the new parental scare - now that Downies are normalized - the link between the two cause the uneducated to go into a tizzy.

There genuinely should be an IQ test in order to breed.

Gay

Okay, enjoy it when they decide we need to vaccinate testosterone with estrogen and it's mandatory.

Or when they put some tracking nanobots in the vaccine.

Nice try

If you don't like the idea of thiomersal because it has a mercury atom in it, you should definitely stop eating any form of salt, that shit has sodium in it. If you eat too much you might explode.

Said nothing about this.

ITALY YES

You are special kind of stupid aren't you.

Then it makes absolutely no sense why you would be so violently against the idea of being vaccinated. Getting injected with a shot of estrogen isn't forever going to affect you; what happens to trannies when they stop getting injections? They turn right back to normal unless they keep taking it. I'm not even going to entertain your nano-machine idea; that is borderline retarded.

Thanks for outing yourself as a shill before you even started, you massive retard.

KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN FOR POSTS LIKE THIS. SHILLS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO REFUTE AN ARGUMENT AND CAN ONLY NAMECALL IT INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING IT

>implying organic heavy metal compounds aren't easier to absorb

That's great and all, but you still haven't addressed the fact that thiomersal-free vaccines exist, and that the CDC and FDA explicitly asked for the compounds removal. Why would they do that if they secretly wanted to get autism?

Vaccines stopped using thimoseral last decade.

Not yet.

I know.
I'm not anti-vax, I just don't want to be injected with mercury and I find it disgusting that I was injected with mercury several times as a child.

That's great and all but that doesn't mean anything until they enforce a deadline and companies actually take it out of their vaccines.

I'm just a (1) popping in with an opinion slightly unrelated to your current argument.

If vaccines work, why do parents worry about going to school with non-vaccinated children?

oh?

I'll check those dubs of beautiful architecture, but user you're fucking dumb.
I'm not even going to post sources as I won't waste my time on you. Our own government pays out millions of dollars a year to settle cases where vaccines, "went bad", considering you can't really sue pharma in america anymore. It's a statistics game dumbass. Learn 2 science and biology. A million kids take a vaccine 10 of them are going to have MAJOR side effects, like fuck my life debilitating disease side effects. Why the fuck do you think India is up in arms over Gates shoving that shit down there throat. Take .01% of a billion people and you've just fucked a lot of people up/ruined lives when they were told it would be good for them. It's all a numbers game bro.
I'm all for vaccines because sometimes you just have to roll the dice. Also, cleansing the world with a race-based plague is a high likelihood. But seriously, try not to be so dumb. We seek the truth here, we don't mask ourselves in ignorance. Before you make blanket statements try and be more intelligent please.

I'll check your dubs, but it WAS enforced. the '99 review by the CDC and FDA ordered removal, and the EU had thiomersal reclassified as unsafe in turn following the CDC investigation.

ema.europa.eu/ema/index.jsp;curl=pages/medicines/pips/EMEA-001743-PIP01-14/index.jsp?curl=pages/regulation/general/general_content_001364.jsp&mid=WC0b01ac058002958b

fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/QuestionsaboutVaccines/UCM070430

cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/timeline.html

2001 is the year where thimerosal is removed or reduced to the point of being untraceable in ALL vaccines aside from the optional influenza vaccine. It's not a matter of opinion anymore; we literally have not used thimerosal in vaccines for over a decade.

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WHAT'S NEXT? DOUBLE CIRCUMCISIONS?

According to them, it's because not everyone can get vaccines

Ehhh…we get out there sometimes.

This. Not everyone can get vaccines, sometimes you can be allergic, sometimes a kid may have a compromised immune system. That as well, there are some vaccines a child cannot get until a certain age, so they are vulnerable.

I am almost certain we're being shilled now.

They already know your fat ass doesn't leave the house, user.
polite sage

I'm a biologist. This shit about vaccines is shady as fuck. Today the news reported about that poor kid with leukemia that got sick because his friend wasn't vaccinated. Propaganda 101. So fucking shady. My sons and daughters aren't going to be vaccinated, if they are srong, they'll libe. Otherwise, they wouldn't deserve to live anyway.

The energy necessary to refute a lie is an order of magnitude greater than that to produce it. In that spirit, go fuck yourself schlomo.

For other anons: vaccines are one of the greatest leaps forward for medicine and overall quality of life in human history. I still wouldn't put it past the kikes to do us harm through them, one way or another. Pay attention to what you put inside your body, because sometimes the consequences can be permanent. Truth above all.

Antivaxxers gtfo

those fucking retards won't be killin their children anymore

I sure am glad based SpaghettiZOG is doing this. Antivaxxer tinfoil retards should have their children taken away from them. They are clearly retarded, and would score low on an IQ test as well. It takes a village to raise a child properly; if you don't think so, you're just a dumb conspiracy theorist stormfa-uh-hippie liberal! Just dumb goy- I mean, SJWs who are following trends set by dumb actors, lol.

It's time to overcome your paranoid delusions and step over to the right side of history! The government is only trying to protect children from dumb redne- hippies! There's absolutely no way those vaccines aren't as great as we- I mean they- say. Just shut up and do what you're told, it's for your own good!

Also, make sure to have your sons circumcised.

the food they sell us is full of dangerous chemicals
the drinks they sell us are full of dangerous chemicals
your tap water is full of dangerous chemicals
tons of pharmaceuticals are dangerous
the plastics they sell us are dangerous
the Chinese products they sell us are dangerous
but that shit they inject directly into your bloodstream? fuck, why would you even question that? of course it's safe, are you crazy?

THIS. Good to see other rational anons in this thread.

Salt has sodium ions, not sodium metal.

>>>/x/
>>>/fringe/
>>>/oven/

Friendly reminder that vaccines have no benefit whatsoever and contain mercury which permanently reduces your IQ, plus plenty of other poisons which are probably carefully selected (by Jews, naturally) to ruin the development of a child.

Don't want to get sick? Eat healthy (vitamin E is very important for the immune system), exercise, sleep well, wash your hands when coming home or before eating after touching public doorknobs and other gross things. You will rarely if ever get sick unless you have shitty genes or just moved.

Oh, and don't be a faggot- GRIDS/AIDS
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Vaccination is child abuse. Anybody that condones vaccination deserves to be gassed.

So they shouldn't affect anti-vaxxers at all.

Ironically, Sweden just refused to make vaccines mandatory.
yournewswire.com/sweden-mandatory-vaccinations/

What fucking Jewish garbage. This is insane

Fuck off yid

Give me sources they do any harm, or fuck off yourselves kikes

To all the pro-vaxxers (a.k.a. shills on the payroll)…
If vaccines are beneficial, why do Jews refuse to give it to their children? Surely those high-IQ chosen would know the benefits of vaccinating your child.
Or maybe they know something most of us don't about the adverse effects of pumping your child with a thousand vaccines before they can even talk.

Personally, I'm not an antivaxxer, but the sort of vitriolic hate you see within the medical community (of which I'm a part of) towards anyone who even questions anything about the safety of vaccines does raise an eyebrow. It's almost like a trained/indoctrinated pavlovian reaction that we have towards anyone who questions this dogma. It reminds me a lot of how people react if you were to question the holohoax, or bring up black crime stats, etc.

I haven't really delved into the information on whether or not vaccines cause autism or whatever else, so I can't speak to that. But I do know that the CDC-recommended vaccine schedule overdoes it. The whole idea of loading up babies with as many vaccines as possible comes from the fact that niggers and shitskins are low-agency and will not come back for scheduled appointments. So they make blanket recommendations in order to cover for this lowest-common-denominator and try to get all the vaccines in at once, because otherwise, they'll get none at all. In reality, you can space the vaccines, and it shouldn't be any problem. You just have to have enough agency as a parent to remember to come back.

Give me one example of this happening

If they are doing this then i will join you, but it just seems that you are hysterical for no good reason, might as well be complaining about fluoride

i swear some of them are actually bots
i have my own board that i use like a shitty archive to back up my memes in case anything happens to my computer or other backups
since i'm the only person who really knows about it, i'm also the only person who posts there
one day i posted a couple antivaxxing memes and out of fucking nowhere, what i assume to be a bot, came and started kvetching and spouting the usual bullshit you see in this thread
i was always pretty lukewarm when it came to the whole issue, but once i realized how bad the shilling is? they only shill against shit that's worth their time, i'll put it that way

haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.527622
One quick Google search you could've easily done yourself…

Not a good choice of words. You may as well have called people paranoid or stupid for not accepted vaccines.
Oh wait, you already did.

Now kill yourself shill.

How do you have a measles outbreak if everyone else is vaccinated?

>haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.527622

Alright i accept, maybe it should not be mandatory. But surely you can see the benefits

really the solution should be to stop importing 3rd worlders that have the diseases in the first place

He's a retarded shill who didn't think through his attempt to astroturf Holla Forums opinion though emotional appeal.

Are you saying only special people don't have to get vaccines?
So some people are more equal than others? Where have I seen that before…

go and move to somewhere in the U.S.A's Bible Belt that isn't also a big city or near one

academic.oup.com/jid/article/204/suppl_1/S47/2192303/Biological-Feasibility-of-Measles-Eradication

Vuoi la prova che i vaccini fanno male, eccola.

You want proof that vaccines are harmful, here it is.

info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/vaccinated-vs.-unvaccinated-guess-who-is-sicker

I'm not innately anti-vaccines. I'm a vaccine skeptic. I don't pretend to be a fucking expert on the subject. I just follow the Holla Forums mantra. Always do the opposite of what the Jews tell you to do. If the Jews in power are saying vaccines should be mandatory, I think it's safe to say you should probably take a second look at why they're doing it. It's not because they want to keep the white people nice and healthy.

I understand vaccines can be really beneficial for preventing terrible diseases. I just don't think pumping your child with them all at once is necessarily a good choice.

According to that article, Israel itself wants it's own people to get vaccinated, and the only reason there's an article at all is because of a growing number of jewish anti-vaxxers, which means that most jews are, in fact, vaccinating their kids. Kind of counters your claim that it's something that Jews as a whole are against.

More like can't, because of compromised immune system or allergies. I'm not really sure where you got "don't have to" from "can't", nor why you bothered to run with it without checking to see if you were right.

He didn't "refute" your post because it's so fucking dumb in the first place. You're comparing a goddamn heavy metal to sodium salt. I don't even know where to begin with this shit.

and they're not all shills, user.
Hardly anyone on this board has actual biology knowledge. I've fucked with people on both sides of the debate because none of them have cracked open a biology textbook, and all of them only ever link to correlative studies because they don't know the first thing about causal biochemical relationships and why they are more convincing arguments. How many fucking people here arguing for or against thiomersal or mercury in general know the fucking LD50 of mercury or thiomersal offhand? None of them, I guarantee. It's not my speciality, but I recognize ignorance and stupidity right away when people try to argue shit that's even tangentially related to my field, because that's the benefit of actually having an education instead of being some faggot who doesn't have the time or patience to do anything besides make his goal-seeked arguments. Directed arguments and directed research all fail for the same fucking reason, because that's not how shit works in the real world. General research is essential, because if you don't have a firm grasp of how the world works and how everything fits together then you'll understand nothing because complex systems will always fuck with you until you understand them in their entirety.

They "can't" according to jewish doctors, right? Or the (((FDA)))? Very convincing.

Interesting. This is a good point. In general, it's a safe bet always look at what Israel is doing to figure out if something is good or bad. Because ZOG allows Israel to do things that are good for itself, while the goy nations are not. That's why they can have a wall and we can't. Or they can have a ban on mixed marriages and fag marriages, but we can't. Or they can have an ethnostate, but we can't. So if Israel is telling its own citizens that they either don't need vaccines or that they can space them out or whatever else, then that certainly raises an eyebrow.

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Actually about a third of Israelis surveyed didn't think vaccines were a good idea. Still technically a minority, yes. But that article I posted also stated that most of the anti-vaccine Jews were "rich and high-IQ". Most of the "lesser Jews" of Israel more than likely could care less about finding out information on vaccines or even have access to people directly administering them to find out what exactly they do/don't do.

Here's another link.
jpost.com/Israel-News/Health/Why-some-parents-suddenly-refuse-to-vaccinate-their-children-388795

I understand your point user. But I find anyone using specific rhetoric like "retarded", "paranoid", "tinfoil", etc. in reference to anti-vaxx immediately sets off my shilldar.

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no seriously, shitposting aside, fuck right the hell off.
what does the lethal does have to do with this conversation?
we're talking about long-term negative health effects, not people fucking dying by vaccines.

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isn't that exactly what you're doing?
saying the sources they're citing aren't valid?

The whole vax thing is a massive red herring, as far as I can tell. It's a manufactured fracture point full of disinfo agents playing both sides. It's just like the abortion, gun control, violent video game (if you were around in the 90s), etc etc etc manufactured controversies. They inflate it and fill it full of disinfo so people argue but nothing ever gets accomplished.

So they finally made it (((they))) infiltrated pol's lines with anti vaxx conspiranoia

ok retards, this is the first step to your downfall, you are so stupid i'll almost feel we deserve it when our race disapears

Correlative sources are not valid, no. High correlation is what interests real scientists to do causative research, which is actual scientific knowledge.
Throwing a bunch of shit into a microarray a few times then making a graph isn't fucking science.

The whole thing is directly comparable with the automotive defect scandals over the past years. Just like they cover up defective airbags, they cover up defective batches of vaccine. It's a lot cheaper to pay a few jews to spread disinfo (on both sides) then it is to pay out a class action lawsuit.
It's a numbers game.

Be more creative with your shilling, please.

kids who dont get vaxxed should just go to their own schools.

That's fine. I don't want my kids having autistic friends anyway :^)

and what cause do you propose is making all of these health problems happen at much higher rate if it's not the vaccines themselves? the lifestyle of people who are more prone to get the vaccines?
give me a fucking break. vaccination is such a near universal part of 1st world society, how could you even begin to identify another cause?
for fucks sake, we're not talking about hot weather correlating to higher crime rates or some shit like that, this is a direct link between something getting fucking injected right into a person and the effects it might have
fuck off with your pseudointellectual bullshit

That's not how it works, Moishe.

This. I fucking hate bullshit soapbox issues that have almost zero overall relevance. (Except gun control. That's serious shit. If they take away our ability to get guns, then it severely hampers our ability to ever fight back against ZOG, ever.) Bu the "vaccines vs no vaccines" debate is so pointless. Like, I see there are plenty of people who chose not to vote Trump because he tweeted one time that he was concerned about vaccines and autism (many such cases). I don't understand how you're going to base your support on whether a candidate thinks vaccines cause autism or not. It's fucking irrelevant. But people on both sides are so voracious about this shit.

MOTHERFUCKER YOU'RE THE ONE DISMISSING ALL RESEARCH ON THE SUBJECT AS CORRELATIVE!
if you're going to tout that line without compromise then there's no point in us even arguing with each other because it's going to go fucking nowhere

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufactured_controversy

Hate to call you out user, but this strategy is so easily manipulable that it should not be advocated here. Every issue needs to be critically examined independently.

Treat the Jew's recommendations with healthy skepticism.

First day here? Shill? Either way you're retarded.

Holla Forums has known for forever that compulsory vaccines is kike legislation and the foot in the door for it was over-emphasis on vaccination. The reason why vaccines are dangerous is a semi-complicated issue. First reason; the concept of vaccination is not inherently flawed, but relying on them is. Vaccines are not a perfect solution for even the most famous examples of doing away with hit. For instance, polio was on its way out by the time the polio vaccine was even created.

The second reason is that the biotech companies that keep pumping vaccines out are constantly making shtity vaccines or and the actual vaccine component of the shot is flawed. The theory behind vaccination that you train your body to defend against the disease does not work for the samy way for every disease, resulting in people developing the disease they are being vaccinated against.

Third and most importantly, the vaccine shot is being used as a trojan horse for heavy metal poisoning. This reason in particular is why vaccines are causing autism - not the vaccine component itself but the heavy metals contained in the shot. These heavy metals are not necessary in any such way, but (((legislators))) and the companies being paid to produce them keep adding them anyway. The (((FDA))) supposedly banned the use of it in shots but they're still being used in vaccine shots, a clear sign of jews ignoring the law. Lastly, autism as a result of the vaccine shot is actually due to heavy metal poisoning - heavy metal poisoning being a known cause for creating mental disorders since even antiquity.

Bottom line: Disinfo agents will try to convince you that this is a non-issue. They will continue using fake spokespeople to discredit actual proof that vaccines are being used as a jewish form of medicine. Now you know the clear picture behind this issue.

Maybe this low level shilling works on cuckchan. I don't care if they pump my child full of magic powers, allowing the kike government any authority as to what they can pump into my child is about as obvious a jewish power grab as exists.

I'm against commerical vaccinations because the plants are all staffed by subhuman nonwhites, but I suppose you don't want to talk about that, do you? Proper vaccination, without the influence of jews, is an important part of a healthy life. The implementation right now is jewed to fuck, and I'm trying to lead you by the nose to having a brain that can comprehend the difference between causal and correlative because if you don't understand that then you understand nothing about life.

It shouldn't be government mandated, that's kikery of the highest form and bullshit statism.
If you had white scientists overseeing factories staffed by white people producing vaccines for whites, then we wouldn't have the problems with bad batches that currently exist. However because of cheap kikes using diversity hires, we get Tyrone going "how many bags did we put in that batch? Better put them in again to be sure, it's just a preservative bix nood"

Sure, I don't think anybody is against the idea of preventive medicine in the form of vaccines when done right. The whole debate is about government mandating vaccines, which is very obvious why they want to do that, and their entire shill campaign demonizing anybody who stands against such kikery.

i understand the goddamn difference
the whole point you're implying is that because we can't point out finger at the direct biological mechanism that causes these chemicals to eventually lead to the symptoms we're pointing out, then everything we say is invalid.
it's all or nothing, and if you're going to pull that shit, then most medical research is invalid because they really don't understand the biological processes fully going into their research.
is our research incomplete? yes. does that invalidate the direct link shown between these chemicals and these symptoms? no.
just because we don't fully understand it yet doesn't mean it doesn't goddamn exist

Of me and my siblings (big family), all of the healthy kids were never vaccinated. It was the ones who got vaccinated that had health issues.

I also know a couple whose kid died from the vaccination. I guess they might have been allergic to it or something.

The whole debate isn't about government mandates. The whole debate is that this is a manufactured controversy which has been pushed along by disinfo agents and fucking retards who've never cracked open a biology textbook.
Do you really think suburban housewives know a single fucking thing about biology? Yet somehow they're the big 'anti-vax' group?
I seriously doubt a single Holla Forumsack would advocate for government mandated vaccines but we'll sure as hell make fun of anti-vaxers who somehow rode the short bus to Holla Forums.
Government mandated vaccinations = bad
individual choice vaccination = good
Jew made vaccines = bad (obviously)
jew made vaccines with shitskin workers = really bad
white made vaccines with white workers = breddy gud

If you claim a causative link, you have to support that with causative evidence.

But it is, the thread literally started with the premise of Italy's PM making vaccines compulsory. Then shills came to straw man away with "well prove they do harm" when that's only half of the point, the real point is they shouldn't be compulsory under any circumstances it's irrelevant if they do harm.

The thread is about government mandate in italy and therefore government mandate in general.
The "debate" is the vax manufactured controversy, since shills will bring up every angle. This thread gets lumped into that, just like a "how does gps work" thread would get sucked into a flat earth debate by shills and then become about the flat earth manufactured controversy.

but the research isn't finished yet
i know i can't make the direct assertion that A causes B, all i can do at this stage of our understanding of the subject is say it really really seems like A causes B, and that's exactly what i'm fucking saying

They don't have to be biology majors to know there's major league fuckery with the idea of the kiked up state deciding behind your back what secret chemicals they're going to pump into your kid. Not that biology "experts" are trustworthy on this issue in the first place.

I'm pretty sure none of this is controversial on Holla Forums or anywhere

and how the fuck can you say
in one breath, and call it a "manufactured controversy" with another
i'm not saying vaccines are inherently a bad thing, i'm saying that vaccines made in a jew controlled society are very likely bad.

Something something followed by a very low-effort shitty misunderstood explanation of faux-herd-immunity.

who even gives a shit about the "diseases" vaccines are supposed to prevent? feed your kid a couple grams of vitamin c and you dont have to do shit, the body takes care of all the shitty weak invaders and whatever toxins they release by itself

Not only that but we would be able to know which diseases are even worth taking vaccination shots for. Vaccinations only provide a period of theoretical immunity - and that is if they're successful. Some shots we take for major diseases only last in our bodies for a few months. But this problem isn't even limited to humans. For instance, rabies shots in dogs. The shots that are supposed to be "good" for only a few years and depending on the state you live in you are supposed to take your dog back to the vet to shoot it up again every 3-7 years of its life.

Some shitty vets tell you to come back once a year and that's where you get pets who die from complications with the shot. The immune system goes into a panic when the dog is flooded with the heavy metals in the shot aka an allergic reaction. Histamine buildup (allergic response) is a "side-effect" of many vaccine shots and vets sometimes skip that part leading the pet owner who either give their dog an antihistamine. Vets are now giving the dog a steroid and/or an antihistamine. Guess what? They're doing with this kids too.

A few years back a girl in wisconsin died from the HPV vaccine and the news went shut it down. Then they finally covered the story by - you should see where I'm going with this - saying it wasn't the vaccine, but the "side-effects" from it. Then they changed the story again and said that the girl died from treating the side-effects saying it was an antihistamine overdose. They used the coroner's language against the real story saying that since the coroner said that the last thing the girl was given was something to treat her complications with the shot, that means it was the treatment. Overnight just about every normalfag medical news site had an article on antihistamine overdose which is even more infinitely more rare than dying from vaccine over-complications.

Actually we can but when you get to the research and tons of reports the pharma shills show up.
1. The vaccine is poorly made and by itself will lead to over-complications and/or give the patient the disease instead
2. The "preservative" in the shot is a form of a heavy metal, usually mercury or aluminum
3. The immune system of the person is either poor or too strong, amplifying the immune response reaction to the above components - allergic response - or caving in to the bombardment - getting the disease and suffering a ton of heavy metal intoxication

Once jews get their hands off of anything that leads to creating vaccines we'll finally know if vaccination is really worth it and which diseases can be safely prevented with them. Until then jews will try to force the issue and make "vaccinations" for anything even if it assuredly will not work. They'll just have pajeet make it and if you've seen how well pajeet makes code, you can bet how poorly he makes vaccines.

shit I should not be effortposting this early in my day
I apologize for any mistakes in my post but I think despite them the message is still clear.

scribd.com/doc/220807175/132-Research-Papers-Supporting-the-Vaccine-Autism-Link#scribd

traceamounts.com/ten-lies-told-about-mercury-in-vaccines/

Too obvious.

Lurk 2 months before shilling, Asher.

Checked. Nice posts. I'm sure vaccines are a good thing if done properly, but the kikes in (((big pharma))) are obviously out of control. No doubt they are trying to come up with the perfect Goy Shots, and naturally make as much profit along the way as they can.

That's why the vaccine issue is so complicated. The theory behind vaccination is sound, but like most good things jews twist it to their own ends. Vaccination can be useful in the midst of a pandemic crisis, depending on how the disease functions and forming a 100% flawless vaccine is feasible. But the number one most successful protocol to preventing disease from spreading has always been quarantine & cleanliness. All jews have done is re-purpose vaccinations into a tool for poisoning whites. Vaccinations in the media and in politics are over-emphasized and their uses are over-exaggerated so as to make the jews job easier of making poisonous injections compulsory.

don't vaccinate its fine with me

That site is openly anti-vaccination. Not a source.

How can pajeets survive living in shit, eating shit, drinking and breathing shit? It's not thanks to vaccines, they're human cockroaches that have build up the immunity. I bet Ebola-chan wouldn't kill a single pajeet, since they'd be immune. Lesson to be learned- eat shit and don't vaccinate.

Have to check these trips
Fuck vaxxer shills

Take your vaccines, goy! Oh, that mercury inside of them? Don't worry about it. It's good for brain health!

WTF I LOVE KIKE INJECTIONS NOW

Holy shit, think of it. Italians are among the most cheeky euros in terms of accepting diversity.

They are trying to calm you bois down!

Please no. We don't need this kind of human.

cant believe there are retards here that are fine with kikes injecting them and their kids with unknown substances

and this is beside the fact that the things don't even work in the first place.

There is no way to be certain what the fuck is in a vaccine unless you watched the entire manufacturing process.

I guess you guys just trust the federal government and kike corporations to look out for your best interest though right? Theres no way they might sneak things in the vaccines to test on us right?

I'm not sure I've swallowed the anti-vaxx pill, but if you consider for example that every single molecule containing lead has been known to cause brain damage, is it totally irrational to also suspect anything containing mercury could potentially be toxic as well?

And the fact that it's a single mercury atom with X other atoms does not change the fact that it is there.

Tetraethyllead - a lubricating gasoline additive consists of 1 lead atom plus 8 carbon atoms plus 20 hydrogen atoms - 1/29 is lead and it is still extremely toxic. Thiomersal is 1/23 mercury. If we're going simply by the number of toxic atoms then TEL (now banned for causing stunted brain development) is less toxic.

I did not put those reddit spaces there wtf

What's both funny and tragic is that the FDA admitted in 2012 that thiomersal is still in vaccines despite being ordered to remove them back in 2001. Again, jews will ignore the law so long as the law is not enforced - and since the jews are in charge of the law they're not going to enforce something they want to ignore.

archive.courthousenews.com/cnsnews/Story/Index/44979 [archive.is/njYNK]
fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228 [archive.is/N2zbr]

That's why it's easy for deniers like to say things over here and claim that it's gone or "reduced" when vaccine manufacturers, despite producing things that are compulsory for public education, aren't being forced to not use thiomersal. In some cases they just switched to using aluminum, which while not as bad as mercury will still cause damage. Flu shots for example are one of the most widely produced of vaccinations and end up coming back 50-51% mercury, but before I get to my next point the CDC continues to let flu shots be sold that have never seen a single clinical trial. Oddly enough these flu shots will admit that on the package. The CDC covers for the FDA's lies and vice-versa. If Trump wants to deal a crippling blow to the EPA-FDA-CDC mafia, that would be nice.

Thiomersal is 1/23 mercury but it's 50% mercury by weight, hence the term heavy metal (poisoning). The mercury molecule is categorized as a free radical when observed in how it affects the human body. As such, it is one of the most dangerous free radicals known to man because the body is tasked with neutralizing a very "heavy" substance. Mercury is famously known throughout human history for being dangerous especially how it damages the mind. Mad-hatter syndrome anyone? Aside from all of that, there has never been a single decent reason to use mercury as a "preservative" for vaccines let alone medical injections. Jews are simply taking the ability to make vaccines compulsory and inject heavy metals into young kids which doesn't just screw up health but encumbers development. The body sacrifices minerals to neutralize heavy metals such as zinc, zinc being important to testosterone creation as well as neurological function. Mineral depletion follows which weakens the child's development and before you can replenish those minerals, the damage continues.

newamericannews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/MAWSON-STUDY.pdf

That isn't human. It's a literal shitskin.

Italians soon to start spilling even more spaghetti

They are clearly shills on a payroll. It's clear (((they))) haven't lurked enough, too.

what is the situation like in the rest of the EU? EU in general seems to be much more careful in regards to health and bans everything that might be harmful but that doesn't mean we don't get fucked over anyway by vaccine producers

In Poland they fined parents who didnt poisoned their children. Now they anounced that they will abduct them and give them to other families and foster homes.

WAKE UP KURWA!

That alone should tell you the propaganda machine is programming them to defend vaccinations for everyone.

In any case, vaccinations against things like polio are fine, regardless of what's in them you're better off with that than polio. However, vaccinating stuff like chickenpox? Retarded, 3-4 vaccinations for the dangerous stuff is fine as they are unlikely to do much to it, shooting up your kid with vaccines for everything is not. Also, you can expect the number to rise, first they forced a few, now they force a dozen, soon they will force a few dozen, eventually they will make the flu vaccine that you need to take twice a year mandatory.

Oh and the whole "it's ok if some kids don't take it since it's herd immunity" is just another way of saying "in the future the elite won't be taking it, only the masses".

So Italians can keep that way their child away from prussian brainwashing system?

My dad and his shingles would like to talk to you

As long as you get chickenpox as a child, probabilities of it complicating are minimal. If you vaccinate against that, might as well do so against the seasonal flu.

If you reach adulthood without having had chickenpox, then you can get the vaccine. No reason to shoot up every kid considering 99.9% will get it as a child with no complications.

You're completely full of shit. The whole problem with shingles is that the virus sits and waits inside the human body. Childhood infections lead to shingles later in life.

Checking those trips of spooky shit. And they have the gall to say Holla Forums is "just paranoid" while this sort of thing happens.

And that happens in how many of the people that go through chickenpox as children? Do we all have to take the shots because some may get that later in life?

How many die by the flu every year? If you want to push chickenpox vaccines on us because a small minority may get shingles, then why not vaccinate against all the other, much more dangerous diseases (like the aforementioned flu)?

Great litmus test! All the pro vaccine retards above are from reddit. Reddit loves vaccines. If you are pro vaccine, you are a cunt that is super blue pilled. Vaccines are one of the easiest red pills to swallow. Gtfo, reddit fags.

Vaccine injury causes more harm than the diseases vaccines protect from.

Did you know that over 38000 cases of SIDS has been linked to the hep b vaccine given at birth. There are three ways to contract hep b: IV drug use, sex and mother to child. Considering the it loses its effect in 80 percent of people by age 15, why would you give it to an infant.

Look up Bruesewitz v. Wyeth, SCOTUS declared vaccines unavoidably unsafe and then gave vaccine manufactures zero liability in the safety or quality of their product. Vaccine manufacturers cannot be sued, even for proven vaccine injury.

Let that sink in.

Being anti-vaxx is like a synonymous of being stupid and you should really kill yourself anyway if you believe that vaccines are bad anyways.

I got shingles when doing wrestling. Wasn't bad at all.

(((We))) don't how your baby died, goy! It was probably the stuffed bear in his crib… yeah that makes sense if we repeat it enough.
Bernie baby died of (((SIDS))), BUT AT LEAST HE HAD ALL OF HIS VACCINES!

I had a seizure 20 minutes after a tetanus shot on the way home.

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measles outbreaks happen among 100% vaccinated populations all the fucking time.
it is not even a dangerous disease to healthy people, and the immunity you get from having it is actually permanent and reliable - unlike the (((immunity))) you get, even in the best-case scenario, from the shot.

chickenpox vaccine makes you more likely to get shingles, not less.

literally thousands of japanese lolis got chronic convulsions and central-nervous-system damage from the HPV vaccine.
the majority of sexually active people on earth harbor HPV and experience no ill effects at all - and gardasil doesn't even confer immunity to most HPV strains. it doesn't confer real permanent immunity (as imagined by those who believe vaccination shilling) at all.

I work in a semi-big, international pharma company and I'm involved in the production of vaccines (I'm responsible for growing cell cultures pretty much) and unless every family physician in the world is somehow conspiring to mix your autism inducing fantasy concoction there is no way it is in any way dangerous.

You should drop this topic in general, it makes you look ridiculous.

uhhh, so you don't know that the polio vaccine causes polio, huh? oh, sorry, it causes "non-polio acute flaccid paralysis." which is to say, it causes the exact symptoms that polio causes, but they call it "non-polio," because it couldn't be polio, since that's the disease being vaccinated against.
yes, it really is that cynical and that obvious. welcome to the rabbit hole. we're all mad here.

Damn. Impressed by you, user. I didn't think anyone else knew this. Polio is still rampant in Poo-land (Pajeet country), but they have people like (((Bill Gates))) making sure the population is vaccinated. Lots of "non-polio acute flaccid paralysis" there, that is not technically the same older strain of polio so they don't have to count it in the numbas. The not pooing in the loo does not help, polio is spread via feces, etc.

Do shills really think this works?

They already force a few dozen (49+) and laws are being passed to make flu shots mandatory for medical workers every season in states nationwide.

Wow. The level of shills arrogance:P

Yes. We totally should.

>“Pink Disease” is another misnomer for mercury poisoning. For several decades prior to the 1950s infants were given mercury laced teething powders. The name “Pink Disease” was given because the infants’ hands and feet would turn a bright pink color. Learn more about Pink Disease at pinkdisease.org/

In a recent Pink Disease study they surveyed 522 adult survivors of Pink Disease about the health of their grandchildren. They found that
1 in 25
of these grandchildren had an autism spectrum disorder compared to 1 in 160 children of the same ages in the general population in Australia, a staggering six-fold increase in relative risk.

my dad works at nintendo, and you should kill yourself.

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Statistics are jewish ;-)

you have to have an open wound and roll in fresh horse shit to contract tetatnus.
almost nobody got tetanus even when fucking everyone owned horses and was constantly exposed to horse manure. what do you reckon your chances of exposure are now? i have seen a horse outside a fenced enclosure on private property maybe twice in the last 3 years.

I think you're referring to this, but grossly misrepresenting facts and consequently spreading false conclusions:

digitaljournal.com/article/323371

TL;DR

No, you need to have an open wound and stick your hand in soil to get tetanus. It's caused by Clostridium tetani bacteria, which also lives in soil, not only in manure, although soil that has been fertilized by manure is the most dangerous.
That being said, tetanus vaccine, much like the rabies one, works for ~5 years so getting vaccinated every year is a real overkill.

don't forget to look at these fucking digits while you mouseover the spoilers fam

have you demonstrated that the killed vaccine doesn't cause polio? no, you haven't. that study would never be approved. but you have conceded that the kikes still pretend that polio caused by polio vaccination is/was (((NPAFP))) despite the absurd obviousness of this deception. do you think they feel compelled to be honest now that they have been caught once?

cool story, bro, now show me the epidemic levels of tetanus that wracked our society back when the vaccine didn't exist, and almost the whole population worked farms with horses, combining the maximum likelihood of insufficiently-sanitized minor injuries with the maximum exposure to dirt and horse shit. or can you not do that because it was still fucking uncommon even under those worst-possible-scenario conditions?

Have you demonstrated that it does? No, you haven't.

In fact, you haven't demonstrated anything at all. You've just talked a whole lot of shit out of your ass. Are you even listening to yourself anymore? You're acting like "a 'dead' virus can cause exactly the same disease as a 'live' virus" should be considered the null hypothesis, and it's on me to prove it wrong.

No, I haven't proven that wrong. And no, it's not on me to do so. Nor did ever set out to do so.

What I did was provide the most likely source for your un-sourced claim that:

What I also did is show that said source is in fact talking about this occurring in an extremely specific context, which contradicts your implied conclusions that:

Overall, the notion that vaccinations in general are a bad thing is fucking stupid and you should feel bad for spreading it. The primary purpose of vaccines is to spread immunity to horrible diseases and ultimately wipe them out. Vaccines come in many different forms and have different properties. Some contain live contagions, others dead ones, others only fragments, others still don't contain it at all and instead consist of purified or artificial antigen proteins.

Vaccines are a tool. Bad people can use vaccines for bad things. That doesn't mean vaccines are bad.
Are yearly flu vaccines useless bullshit? Sure.
Do (((certain people))) lie about the side-effects of their specific vaccine for profit? Yes.
Should we be wary of greedy cunts poisoning the masses for a few extra shekels? Absolutely.
Should they be treated like mass murderers and punished accordingly instead of getting a slap on the wrist? Fuck yes.
Should we therefore conclude all vaccines in all forms are just poison that is used to control us and everyone who makes them is some sort of scam artist or villain? Fuck no, you stupid fucking cunt.

Be careful, be watchful, but be smart and don't fall into hysteria. There is nothing wrong with immunizing yourself against diseases. Especially now, when hordes of third world mongrels are being imported into our midst, not vaccinating yourself and your kids against the medieval shit they still carry is fucking suicidal. Definite death sentence if a massive war breaks out in our lifetimes (and I think we all know it will).

That's fucking insane, especially considering that Italy was one of the few countries to sue a big pharma company into oblivion after it was proven that their ghetto-ass vaccines had caused autism amongst a generation of kids.

Can you show me a real picture of a virus? All I find are cartoons and metal coated bubbles from electron microscopes.

Then again, when you are mired in unreliable shit vaccines and have no way to confirm that the ghetto juice you're being offered isn't fucking malignant you might as well just take your chances.

Death sentence? Tell that to the Italian people who now have to deal with retard autist kids because some kike company concerned themselves more with profit and ruining the goyim than public health. They got compensated financially but in the end their kids are still fucked for life. Just face it; vaccination is no longer as trustworthy as it was in the past, it's become russian roulette. If anyone should be put to death it should the ones screaming for compulsory vaccination in an ever worsening situation where vaccination becomes less and less safe. Take note that Italy was the only country to actually go after these pharmaceutical kikes during a world-wide scandal. Everywhere else they just shut it the fuck down.

Until there is punishment and thus consequences for these kikes, vaccinations will remain exactly what they are today; a gamble.

Heed the advice in this thread and lurk some more before shilling.

Here are some images from a transmission electron microscope… or is this what you're calling "metal coated bubbles"?

Source: eyeofscience.de/en/viruses/

Just to be clear, I'm absolutely against compulsory vaccination. Forcibly injecting people with… anything is absolutely disgusting shit that only kikes and communists would support.

And I'm absolutely for cracking down hard on any pharmaceutical companies that suppress evidence of side-effects for profit. Like I said, that should be treated on par with mass murder or worse.

What I'm against is hysterical knee-jerk claims along the lines of ALL vaccines are bad. That is clearly false and perpetuating this sort of notion does two things:

The latter is particularly bad because that is why it is nearly impossible to go after them. Any sort of questioning or critical assessment of negative side-effects of vaccines gets immediately gets shut down by conflating it with this bullshit.

That's also faulty logic. How many kids that were vaccinated became retard autists? What percentage? Compared to that, what would be the consequences of not vaccinating at all?

Is it a gamble? Yes.
Could you get fucked? Yes.
Will you get fucked? Extremely unlikely.
Will you get fucked if you contract polio because you didn't get vaccinated? Yes.
Will there be a polio outbreak if nobody gets vaccinated while we import third world shitskins? Inevitably.

You're gambling either way. The only question is: what odds are you playing?

kids with bad immune systems can die from getting injected with a 'dead' disease
wow what a surprise

Those images look fake as shit.

They're falsecolour, they'd be black and white usually.

i'd say that it's that a lot of people have started doubting the system.

you have media and authority figures telling you everything is all right, except that it's going to shit for a lot of people especially because of things that are sold as gold by higher ups mentioned above.
it's quite a normal reaction if you ask me.

and if you consider that we are starting to see cases of TBC again in our countries thanks to certain "resources" who are totally going to pay for our retirements and add to our wonderful diveristy tapestry. it's hard to take seriously these people.

No goy. Don't get vaccinated. We have a hospital room for you when you get a full blown disease, goy. Best rates. Low prices!

Now they're filled with aluminum.
A known neurotoxin When your grandpa gets Alzhiemer's, thank the flu shot he got last winter.

I'm fucking tired of the antivax shills on Holla Forums.
I'm Italian and this years, since thousands of retards like OP didn't vaccinate their kids and since thousands of niggers and muslims came to my country taking their filthiness with them, we had thousands of illnesses more than the average. I got sick something like 6-7 times, lost tons of days at work and at the gym.
Fuck you OP, fuck you and everyone who supports you.
This antivax shilling is cointelpro as its finest:
this whole mess was created by our (((Andrew Wakefield))) who faked it for the purpose of FAVOURING ANOTHER FUCKING BIG PHARMA INDUSTRY SPONSORIZING ANOTHER FUCKING VACCINE.
I have also reported you

youtu.be/SpQyYTs5LTg

I have something really surprising for you to know, user. Those thousands of niggers and muslims are the cause of the problem, not the lack of vaccination. Shitskins reintroduce disease into white areas that haven't been seen in years.

You think we don't even know that? What were you expecting jews to do? Not co-opt their opposition? And another thing is that he didn't start the "movement" the anger and information was already there. Things were getting done by the turn of the century. That jew set things back hard because of the misinformation carried by it and people who were fooled like you. If you think you're wise to the issue, actually look at the issue itself and not what the media tells you. When the media holds jews like him up as an opposition, you better believe that person actually works for (((them))).

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Diseases…

Wiped out…

because of vaccines.

This is the fucking truth, its not about vaccination at all. Its about making anyone who questions authority on something that is "obviously true" seem like an absolute nut. Vaccines are perfect for this psyop because they can program the fear of sickness into the feeling the normies get when questioning authority. Everyone has been sick at one time or another so its a very personal and effective attack to say "if you dont follow our rules you will be super sick and your children will die"

Maybe because Americans get the most vaccinations and by and large have the shittiest immune systems. Overloading an infants immune system with foreign proteins, antigens, toxoids and contaminates(especially fungal contaminates that caused many cases of sids) is not a good thing. When b cells get overloaded they start to shut down or they over activate. Hence millions of people with autoimmune diseases and millions more with post sepsis chronic fatigue. There's a medical reason gen x were known as underachievers and couch potatoes and everyone just takes the world of the same couple corrupt Kikes at Yale who own patents on all these proteins.