Bubble Bursting Potentially Imminent

They haven't seemed to have much trouble staging a massive, near-irreversible invasion of our country, dominating huge swaths of territory, and having the local economy bend to their needs.

Is that why bitcoin and all altcoins are rising ultra fast since April?
Especially Ripple, which was bought by some big banks

Dubs for economic crash

all 3 graphs are ripple, I made 3 so that you can better see how fucking exponential this increase was, like those earth -> uranus -> sun -> urmom size comparison gifs

When shit hits the fan, gold might prove equally worthless for quite a long time. Before sperging out on precious metals you should ensure you are in possession of basic necessities - weapons, ammo, access to drinking water, food reserves.

so what should I do to prepare, assuming this is true?

Guys, you know how we've been bombarded with "zombies" in the media and videogames for the past decade. I don't think it's just a random trend. The Jews are probably planning to unleash some advanced rabies virus on us. Those "bath salts" incidents were probably not bath salts at all!

Even fucking DOGE has been rising like crazy recently.

It's actually worse than that for my STEM degree. Only 1/3 of graduates find work in the field. The other two options are split evenly.

While I wish my student loans would be forgiven, that sounds too hopeful. Why would they relinquish their debt slavery hold over us? The normies still do not realize the yoke around their necks is placed there by the jews. Even if the market crashes, no one would know to lynch the kikes for causing it. The kikes have nothing to lose from a crash, but everything to gain. They would sell beforehand and buy the low, then ride the rocket back up to the moon on the next cycle. This is how the jew builds wealth, user. Insider trading essentially, but bigger than one company's scale. I don't see why they would either forgive loans or prevent a crash. Also, while Holla Forums throws around that the shemitah comes every 7 years, this is not true. It is seven years, seven months, and seven days, bringing it closer to 8 years. Some of the trends I noticed were more close to the 8. I am not thinking it skipped us entirely, but the effects were delayed. Again, it could be so this lands on Trump's shoulders instead of Kang negro. As much as I love Trump, I do not think he can singlehandedly prevent such a thing.

We have been "overdue" for a crash for some time now, and the economic stress is building in the background. You can feel it, right? No one is doing well, but the stock market is magically doing well, exceptionally well. People who bought the dip after 2008 are now millionaires. But such a rapid growth was not built on anything physical. I think it may all be just a bubble on which the other bubbles were built, and the mother bubble is due to pop. I think all the "growth" of the past few decades, the seeming exponential growth, is all fabricated by financial engineering. I do not think we have anything at all, and I fear that everything will return to 1970s level, or perhaps 1940s level, and may pull a japan and stay there. Basically cut the mountain off the graph of the us market and that more level looking base is what we have, when you remove the fabrications and their effect of seeming exponentiality.

Fiat is not "worthless" as it is like holding a share of the entire US. It is actually so inflated that there are calls, should this bubble burst, that we could see deflation, meaning the dollar would strengthen and a loaf of bread would again cost 25 cents. Gold is also overvalued right now IMO.

I would not buy crypto. I think it is in a bubble and overvalued right now, probably due in part to shilling and part to the novelty. It has no inherent value. With stock, you have a share in a company which produces something. With the dollar you have a 'share' of the US, which produces something. What is crypto based on? Wishes and hype. If I were holding crypto, I would sell. You had a ride and now it is over. I say as much on /biz/. Also, it may entirely be a pump and dump.

True, but in a worse than the great depression scenario they would be forced to become openly hostile. They would no longer be a problem at that point. The only way out of that would be if the government were to covertly pay for 100% of living costs for all spics.

I am waiting for it to crash so that I can buy it, but I am worried that the dollar might crash before
I treat it like people treat gold, currency storage, not an investment.
Although I do use it to bet on political events

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if only I could go back to 2011 and buy bitcoins

I hope it does.

I've been saving up for a fucking house forever and now they'll be dirt fucking cheap.

Nah, Trump's not going to bailout the jew like a good little monkey. A crash now would mean control of the global economy would shift from the jew to Drumpf. There's just no way.

I don't know how useful dogecoin will be in an orchestrated WW3 thats coming. First it will be economic collapse and chaos in inner cities followed by martial law, some political assassinations and eventually we will have chinks landing in Alaska and russian tanks rolling over yurop.

I'm in the same camp. (((they))) have all sorts of artificial brakes built into the stock market to head off runs, plus all the other mechanisms to prop it up. super computers are running full tilt to prevent free fall or at least manage a sloping decline.

I think (((they))) remember what happens when they punish the goy too hard

Does that mean ww3? Do you think commie EU will go full 1984? JWO genocide? Not sure if I should fuck off to eastern europe or switzerland when SHTF or stay.

Don't sell too early.

I once mined 500k Quarkcoins when the coin was pretty much forgotten, with a shitty server that ran our teamspeak and cs servers. The price was around 40-60 satoshis for many months. Suddenly it rose to 150, then 200. I sold, three days later it was at 25000, I would have made 180k € if I had waited a bit.

Guess I'll keep my silver and gold stock. Good thing they've been dipping lately.

Yeah, but my small inheritance is all in stock. Do I just ride it, or try and sell now and leave it in my bank until after the crash or what? Emphasis on small, much smaller than FDIC limits, but enough to trigger tax bullshit.

Well if its ww3 it will likely be Russia + China vs the West so I don't know if Eastern Europe is the place to be.

We can't have another 1929 level event because we're not stupidly backed by gold anymore.

Same. College debt and car loan are paid off, saving up for a house, and a nice market correction would put me in a better place, assuming my job survives.

They do keep just bailing out Greece, and now Ireland and Spain, too. Can't keep doing that forever.

shit I need to read up more on alternate currencies. I blew it with bitcoin as I figured the jew would never allow a currency that they could not control, but now I can see I'm running out of time.

I feel so bad that I got conned into college. Thanks, mom. I do not have a job in my field, but I have a lot of debt. I would have been better off not going to college at all. I don't know what to do, now. I can pay it off with my poverty wages over time, and sacrifice enough money that I could have built a good investment.

If the situation mirrors 2008, I would buy the dip. But if it mirrors the Nikkei crash, it will never bounce back up to what it was, and there will be no lambo keys for us.

You fucker. I tried to bet on Trump's win when he was 35:1. Everywhere I looked it was 'illegal.' I could have been a tenthousandaire.

ShariaBlue pls go.

Usury will not go away if they have a say. I have a mind that they are using muslims to get us to hate them, muslims being the only ones on the planet opposed to usury. So when we hate muslims we'll hate anti-usury opinions as a side effect, and thus be on the usury dick forever.

I do not see why they would reset it. It would be more in their favor to just lower all the interest rates and keep the debt. Then they still get a check written to them on what they've scammed us into.

I have heard the arguments for why fiat is "worthless" and I hold that so long as it represents the official US currency it is tied to the intrinsic value of the US. It has also been subject to so much inflation that it is not overvalued.

Depends. Will a crash occur, and when, and what will the recovery look like? Will it follow the 2008 US pattern with a bounce-back and surpassing to grow even more, or will it look like the Nikkei crash and never again be worth shit? I'm using Holla Forums as a thinktank to attempt to determine this.

So what do you think will happen?

Davidson is calling that unemployment (current real figure at 25%) will triple. I do not think your job will survive if that happens, nor would mine. I'll see you gents on the corner with my kneepads in that case.

Did I do the wrong thing by paying off the majority of my debts?

But germany neither I guess. Will be a fucking hellhole. And once it startet the Swiss will close the borders.

Tell Trump to send arms over here so we can deal with the muds.

Hindsight is 20/20 user, it could have also crashed after as well. That being said, what are personal opinions of the odds of cryptocurrencies going down at all. There isn't any reported scares yet so someone is buying behind the scenes in preparation for something it would seem.

Doubtful it will be a full-blown collapse where they'll forget about what you owe, better off to continue paying anyway.

You better have it with you, the bank will just steal all of the assets from their clients in a collapse scenario

It pretty much depends on if the BTC guys get their shit together and start accepting bigger blocks, the fee situation is a total shitfest. But that will take a long time it seems so altcoins will contiue to rise against BTC which is rising against fiat because of many reasons imo.

accidental german currency reform digits.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Mark#Currency_reform_of_June_1948

Consumer debt interest rates are certainly not.

Depends on many factors. You could compare yourself to people who paid their home off pre-2008. No one threw them on the streets. I do not think debt would simply be wiped, but there may be restrictions placed on debt such as student loans to prevent abuse. Well, not like SOX prevented abuse, but it was an attempt. Whether a regulation will apply retroactively to current holders of debt is a question.

I think they will crash to correct after the ridiculous exponential growth. But that's just my opinion. It may continue rising for a bit, though.

I had a scholarship when I started, but I did the change major bullshit too many times and stayed in for too long. I have a debt now too. It seems that being white and male and taking longer to finish than 4 years meant nobody wanted to hire me so I don't have a job either. All the non-whites and all the females from my classes have jobs, though!
My constant Dean's List tier grades? Fuck that who cares apparently.

I've never paid too much attention to econ stuff so I can't help you there. If only I could see the future and act accordingly.

In other words, sell it all, withdraw it all, and stuff it in my mattress. Then shoot at the tax man when he comes for his share.

I think this is something i have to disagree with. If you think history wont repeat itself then youre making the same mistakes the fed is and the banks are. They have all gotten increasingly greedy with their profits ever since they saw what happened in 2008. They probably knew beforehand they could get away with murder but crashing the world and STILL being saved by kikes? I dont think they thought they could go so far. If you think im wrong just go read aboUt 2008 and peoples personal stories. They honestly thought they fucked the world over and it wasnt until they realized "oh we can just do trillions in loans to save everyone" that the fear turned into immense greed.

Some argue the collapse will be slow and painful as things get smaller over time but retain the same price or even go up in price. You know i bought some ritz crackers the other day, which i hadnt had in a long time, and i could easily tell they they were thinner than they were a few years back. Maybr the average joe wouldnt notice it but it was definitely there. Its subtle things over time that make it a slow and painful collapse.

HOWEVER, i am not of the no collapse or slow collapse camps and i fall into the hard ass super dreaded correction camp which could bring us into a depression. I do not bandwagon in this camp like a lot of faggots do mainly because they have no hope in life and just want it all to burn, no i think things OP listed along with a lot of other factors have made this the mother of all bubbles. You have nearly...no you HAVE every system the american gov set up in complete debt.

Pensions are billions of dollars per each state that wont be able to be paid out. You either kill a lot of old people that cant work anymore indirectly by cutting off pension funds or you end up having to tax at least 50% of the average joes paycheck to make up for the mess theyre in. And lets not forget that people, though on a smaller scale, have already begun to die from pensions that were cut. That is only a glimpse into what would happen when they do go bust.

Cities nationwide are bankrupt and either considering declaring bankrupty or raising taxes to extreme rates or cutting essential services out. It is an enormous strain that the system cannot continue to handle. The next bailout wont be just the companies, banks, insurance agencies no its going to be extensive. It will be states and, while this may seem odd to some, it will be the government itself. And when you make a helicopter money nation like that, other nations will lose faith in you. But see thats the kicker, other nations are in dire straights as well. China is a clusterfuck and they have hid the shittness of their economy over and over again by injecting millions or billions into it to keep things looking dandy. What happens if america suddenly goes to shit? Obviously other countries as well will follow. I could go on and on about how bad things really are but my main point was that, yes, it will collapse and it will collapse hard.

Deflation doesn't happen when they're just conjuring QE trillions out of thin air. The deflation in 1929 was only possible because the currency was literally made from gold and silver, which exist in limited quantities and can't be just conjured out of thin air. You actually have to go mine them from the earth, which takes time and work. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.

You are missing one point. If we are right about Trump then the kikes feel threatened, which seems to be the case judging from their behavior, and when the kikes feel threatened they always shoot themselves in the foot. They may see crashing the market as the best way to make Trump look bad. But what they will never see is that everything is past the point of no return. There is no going back, enough people have woken up enough that when the kikes do this they will be screaming bloody murder.

The thing about all the previous economic fear mongering is that the kikes still had a firm grasp on everything. Now they are losing their grip and we all know that they as a group will sink so low as to wage total economic war on a population which they can not control.

But worrying about it is stupid. If the economy doesnt crash, we win. And if it does crash, we win even more.

You said not to buy precious metals as they're inflated right now or crypto but how are you going to be able to buy on the dip if all your USD becomes temporarily worthless. You have to have money invested in other currencies or assets so you can survive the crash and and ride the wave back up again while buying more US assets when they're cheap.

Addendum: Besides, the interest rates are so low with banks it's pointless letting them hold onto your money beyond a checking account for expenses or loan payments. You're safer holding it in a fire-proof safe. Or perhaps getting a contract set up for an annuity so you can at least make decent money in the meantime but I don't know how annuities play out in a collapse so take that last part with a grain of salt.

The altcoins are rising pretty fast so I don't know if it's beneficial to even buy in at this point, you may be able to make money as they keep rising but you need the foresight to sell before a correction as (checked) noted, which, come to think of it, now seems very plausible. But again, who knows, maybe it's a repeat of Bitcoin 2011-present.

Cool I've got like 6k in a credit union and about to graduate with a good degree. Obviously if this is imminent we should all withdraw our money and buy iron and brass but what else should I buy? Cases of lighters like that Bosnian guide recommends? Cases of spam, water, and bags of rice? Painkillers and cough medicine?

If it crashes they're planning to wipe us out beyond repair with WW3.

which will merely result in a destroyed israel and turkey

why do you say that?

I think having basic supplies for a Bosnian-level situation is good, you shouldn't need to spend much on that, the rest you should obviously be using to make more money with.

Cycling out that food as actual meals every few years ensures it won't go to waste anyway.

Europeans are already awakened at least in the military and masculine people so it won't be another brother war unless the zogbots here in burgerstan betray us.

A few reasons. My dubs being one : ^)
Anyway, Israel will probably get ruined because I'm sure they'll end up getting involved in some way that cannot be ignored (like the USS Liberty). Turkey will be in the eyes of Russia, but unlike Eastern Europe, more bullshit will happen there from probably arab faggots, causing more destruction. Constantinople will be safe though.
This is just my autistic idea cobbled from a few things, so don't take it too seriously.

Sounds good.

…and who also predicted 14 other financial downturns that never happened?

Typically this is what happens with these guys. Their track record is littered with a lot of incorrect predictions. Broken analog clock being correct twice a day, etc.

Still, a collapse is inevitable, 7-10 year cycle, 2008 was 9 years ago…

To be fair, we ARE due for a recession at the least. That much is obvious from looking at fed charts and knowing your market history. Its always 10 years max before you have one.

Third world countries whose economies are growing by double-digit percentages must be also closely related to how things are going globally. I would expect them to all implode as well if things went pear shaped.

I do agree in the larger scheme of things.

This is literally every economist ever. This being the main reason I never paid much attention to that stuff.

Trips checked.
All of these economies with this explosive jewish growth bullcrap are destined to be troublesome.

Quite correct regarding third world countries. Purely based off of how well first world countries say they are doing. Most of their markets go directly to first world countries and if those were to dry up, i think its obviois enough what the outcome would be.

Fiat is backed by the US military and US internal political stability, countries which extricate themselves from using the US dollar get invaded to restore democracy from ebil dictators launching WMDs at incubators and killing gas babies with masturbation machines and holocaosters. The reason there is so much saber rattling against Russia is because they are leading the BRICS effort to play the long game, stockpile gold and silver, and gradually checkmate the US dollar, if BRICS can hold out long enough for the US dollar to collapse they win, if the kikes manage to start and win a war with Russia before then then NWO wins and the whole world becomes a totalitarian serfdom ruled by kikes.

I did a dual degree and fell for the grad school trap and went to a shitty grad school. No debt from it but I quit halfway through because it was awful, nothing to be learned I couldn't learn on my own. So now I have 2 undergrad degrees and no job. Meanwhile every girl of note I met in school went on to do a fucking PhD. They somehow manage to get into programs I couldn't despite comparable grades. So I'm stuck spinning my wheels while they build careers. And it's tragic because they could be so much more if they started families but instead they only care about their careers.

It's a textbook cup and handle you filthy concern-kike. panic sell goy! let me buy cheap!

Unless you plan on making some transistors or something gold is worthless too.
Things with value: food, alcohol, and marijuana.

guns and land

More precisely stated: the fiat currency has value insofar as the government demands taxes be remitted using it. If the government says you have to give them n fakebux this year or you go to prison (cf. the state monopoly on violence), then you have to obtain them. This creates demand, which implies value in the case of rivalrous goods. If the government becomes defunct then all bets are off.

That is not how this works. "Over" or "undervaluation" is made by comparison to something else and how that relationship fluctuates over time. E.g. China's currency being undervalued wrt the USD in order to make their exports cheaper relative to the cost to produce the same items domestically. A weak dollar wrt the yuan, in contrast, would make Chinese exports more expensive on our market and encourage the trade to flow the other way (i.e. American exports to China). Hence, China, wanting to stoke their industrial base via global exports, deliberately manipulates their currency to make it *weak* in comparison to western currencies.

Yeah, I considered doing a PhD, maybe I should have.
It does amaze me how much they keep trying to push women into STEM shit just because they don't try to as often as men, but it's clear that those who do have every door unlocked and held for them. Suppressed by the patriarchy my ass.
You are right that society would be better off if they were mothers and had large families. Precisely because they were capable of doing STEM makes them valuable in making children because that's the only place people in 30 years who can do STEM will come from.
All the ones who do this will likely be cat ladies, and the only children will be Consuela's their maid.

Yes, that's the answer. But first the guns have to be taken away.

The US has 2.7 times the total industrial output of China, but we make components which are then assembled in shitholes and imported back here, hence the trade deficit.

Don't talk out your ass.

If anything hoard lolis. Lolis will keep you company and colored ones may be sold off later if we go true mad-max. The rest can eventually be used to start a massive mormon-style family (without all the crazy beliefs) and get a jump-start on furthering/rebuilding the white race. There's really no downside but you do have to feed them.

Gold/Silver are just a more stable way to preserve your wealth for the future, if you keep it through a disaster, like a physical bank you can keep under your bed. But in the disaster itself, as you said, the base things of life will be valuable, like tobacco, alcohol, preserved food, guns, bullets.

Even if most of us die, every kike will, and the white man will survive to rebuild in a world free of the kikes. A costly victory is still victory.

It's not. It hasn't been true for 20 years now. You can make your own doomsday by just stating "it's the jews. X-bubble is bursting." 4channers here will believe it because they are idiots. Make sure you post your patreon so they can donate to you.

Holla Forums is dead

Ripple is backed by banker kikes and has superior tech to bitcoin.

You can't lose :^) goyim trust me for just this once

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Mexico has the advantage of having a powerful third column already inside the US. Mestizos are already hyper nationalistic and far better organized and organizable than Blacks.

Bingo. They went after Saddam because he wanted to trade his oil in euros, instead of dollars. They went after Gaddafi because he was on the verge of creating a gold-backed currency for the arab world. They even stole all the Libyan gold too, after assassinating him. It's not clear where it ended up, but probably in the pockets of international bankers. THEY want gold, and other things of real value like property and ownership/control of companies that actually produce something. The only purpose they have for fiat is as means to acquire real wealth.

How will we get the money? You can't just cut dedicated spending, like Social Security.
The problem is the bloated defense budget.

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In the case of a full collapse there will eventually be a reconstruction period once the dust settles. At that time having a month or so's salary worth of gold silver or other easily traded rare earth metals which dont require special storage could prove to be a very smart investment. Having more than 2-3k worth of bullion is likely dumb because anything more than that amount is going to be overly voluminous if you ever have to grab your bags and beat a hasty retreat. But in the same sense.. Whats the harm in having $1-500 worth of the bullion couldnt possibly hurt. If spending that much money on "a long shot hedge investment" hinders your ability to acquire enough ammo for a hypothetical shtf happening then you were neglecting your duties as a white man. Every single user should be buying atleast 1 box of ammo per paycheck. And as far as land goes. Anyone with even the bullshittiest of jobs should be able to afford a loan on some rural land in their state or the next state over. landwatch.com. You can find lots of 10 acres for 8k or less. Apply for an agricultural loan and claim that you are going to use the land for an exotic plant business. And it wouldnt be a lie because if you are preparing for the happening on said land you should be constructing a green house and other such facilities when you have the free time.

Any user who has dedicated their time to bettering themselves which should include every single one of you has zero reason why they cant have land and needed supplies within 6 months. Fuck I was homeless and without a job for the entire winter of 2012 and owned a house by 2014.

Why do you faggots even bother? Tbh I fucking miss the shills of 2012-2013.. At least they put effort into it.

you didn't miss anything. that's a waste of 5 years. making shit pay if any. for a degree that doesn't matter. go start a business and make bank.

it's crazy the number of women going for advanced degrees. go search online dating profiles. white women, 22 - 28, in any major city. 25% - 40% are or are planning to do a masters. 10% - 20% are or are planning on a phd. of the others about 10% will have a job at some startup or nonprofit. magically they manage to land these jobs almost guaranteed.

i applied for a job at a startup and talking with the head guy at the company he complains about how their old employee, she used to sit at her computer and read facebook news all day. completely unproductive. meanwhile i go and search the top guys at the company and the guy doing the hiring posts about how the company is very committed to diversity and they'd very much like their next engineering hire to be a woman.

fucking ridiculous.

Defense is ~10% of the budget. Entitlements make up almost all of the rest.

The welfare state has to go. It has bankrupted us, and no welfare state survives a currency collapse. Setting up another one under the next system is like waking up from a coma caused by a suicide attempt and then grabbing for a gun to try again.

Provide numbers. All I see are closed factories and idled warehouses in every city's downtown area.

Mexico is not a match militarily, and her population is visually distinct from ours, making them easy to round up in an emergency. Germany was surrounded by industrial nations with modern military equipment and a lot more population. Very different situation. Even if both Mexico and Canada were on an even footing with us militarily and hostile, we would still be in a far better position than Germany was.

pretty much this, but it does depend to some degree on how bad things actually get. obviously survival gear is more important in a 90s bosnia full fucking anarchy tier situation, and less important in a regular old recession
gold is for your extraneous wealth beyond what you're using for survival gear, and is for rebuilding your life once society is stabalized

99% of people who say this either don't know or choose to ignore the difference between total spending and discretionary spending.

Entitlement programs such as medicare make up a whopping 64% of total spending and keeps going up every year. By comparison defense spending is at 16% compared to a historical average of 22% and is predicted to continue to shrink.

Is there inefficiency, waste and even graft in the defense budget? Sure, but its a drop in the bucket compared to the bloated hippo that is entitlements (a large part of which goes to niggers and other non contributing trash rather than muh seniors)

That reminds me
ANYONE IN THE MARKET FOR A CAR SHOULD WAIT IT OUT
www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-15/how-not-recession-ford-slash-10-global-workforce
www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-23/used-car-prices-will-drop-several-years-and-other-takeaways-fords-analyst-call

I'm in the market for a new vehicle and would ideally want to buy one in cash. I'm going to hold out and see if this is true. The subprime auto lending is out of control and any nigger can get a car loan these days. The overproduction is coming to a head as many people's leases are up in the next year.

A lot of the hype behind crypto stems from large institutions getting involved in the tech. Big banks with Ripple. Then other institutions like Microsoft, JP Morgan, etc. in Ether. I guess people figure these guys wouldn't be sniffing around unless they saw a potential to make money.

At least that's what I figured when I decided to buy into Ether at $15 and Ripple at $.10 It's been one hell of a ride since then.

What worries me is that it seems these other coins are riding the BTC coat tails and when BTC pops they all will too.

Except it's not, it's currency the US borrows from the Fed, which the US doesn't own nor has any jurisdiction over.

Things might get weird. Word is, the chinese want their gold back from the USA and are furious at the kikes for trying to crash the gold market.

What i find really interesting is that some medicore down to the core idiotic muricans pay 6 figures for a shit education and only a few will be able to live that dream.

But we need more fat lesbians that present little programs so the goyim pay their debt.
And i wonder to whom the american idiots pay their debts.

Most muricans are slave nation. And it also shows because they buy into that retarded feminist shit mixed with some other budda shit.

BTC wont pop because fiat currency is losing confidence and money moves with the least resistance. It will get devaluted very now and then but in the long run if it is able to gain credibility it will gain value aswell.

This.
When people realize this, Colbert gets ANGERY over TWO SCOOP ROLANDS FLUMPFTS

Lol wut you are so full of shit.

Pic related: 1 Ounce gold coin currently worth ~$1200

You can easily have a roll of 10 1oz coins and it's easy to carry and store. Each roll of 10 coins would be worth $12,000 in today's gold prices

It is just entertainment no substance.

It seems the drop over the past few days was due to worry about Trump. Fucking moron investors listening to the lugenpresse RRRRRREEEEEEEEEE.

SS is unsustainable. In the video in OP, Davidson mentions this, that the boomers are retiring, and instead of paying tax they're going to be collecting gibs en masse. This will fuck us. I don't know what Trump plans to do about it, considering boomers are the wolves of the democracy.

The reason I am worried this time, that it may not be like 2000 or 2008, is that we have diminished in our production of real value. We have our labor pool tied up in getting worthless degrees for years on end when they could be producing something, and then they have no real skills. We have had exportation of further jobs and importation of pajeet and paco to take what remains. All the wealth has been funneled out of the country. Our major unmoveable asset, infrastructure, is crumbling.

The market growth has been exponential in the past decades and it greatly concerns me. I don't know if we will be able to hang on to this position.

Now, a possible solution would be to somehow blackmail India. India holds most of the physical gold in the world. Perhaps play up the paki threat and offer them "protection" in exchange for the delicious gold, but I would say just conquer the fucking streetshitters and take it. Anyway, I would love that to happen but there is no current push for it, unless the antagonism with Russia is a play at BRIC with this in mind. I mean, we did invade the near east to take the oil, pretty much, non? But that's just a pet dream I guess.

within the next few years the market will likely take a dump. What would Trump plan to do for this?

The one that fucks you are the banks and the superrich which operate mulitnationally, the boomers for that matters are just smarter monkies that had an easy job, and i wouldnt listen to them.

In a way the streetshitters do not shit that street to much, same as the chinese. They just take initiative speaking as an impetus.
The muricans will be the first to see that because they are weak creatures with little substance, and they had that coming, enabling fat dumb lesbians and other cunts to control them because that is what they became, their "the meek shall rule the world" didnt work out so they are pulling in a mouth like trump as the last resistance.
Good luck lesbians, i will enjoy what is coming like noone else will.

Or order that pizza for the Florida man.

No, it's the proper response. All this hoopla will make it more difficult for him to get his tax reform through, which has been the basis for the stock rally since he was elected.

No user. We can cut Social Security AND Medicare.

There is 0 fucking reason to give two shits about old fucks whom neglected their own children and ruined the foundation of society (the family unit) in favor of temporary luxury. If your kids cannot spare an couch or an room in the attic/basement and spare the extra cost of rice and beans to feed you (all else is luxury taken from a child) then you as a parent fucking failed and deserve an painful and lonely death. I am under no fucking obligation to give two shits about an entire fucking generation whom knowingly destroyed my children's nation and culture and left me out to dry in my ability to care for them as they grow. I work like a slave for my children and their future. Not for the pampered whores of babylon called the elderly in our nation.

I've known this shit wouldn't be there for me when I got old since I was in highschool twenty years ago. So don't give me no shit about some losers who decided ignoring reality and watching TV while wasting the gifts stolen from their future. I am to busy trying to make sure my kids are better off than I was. A god damned CORE component of being a decent parent.

Unless you have money falling out of your ass the smartest way to accrue bullion is to buy what you can afford every paycheck until you have a comfortable amount. For most anons saving up $1200 + what ever the over spot is at the time is going to take 24 paychecks assuming they are able to put aside $50 a paycheck for it. Saving up for half a year before being able to get your first piece of bullion is a dumb proposition if your sole motivation is to hedge wealth in the event of a societal collapse which you are worried could happen any time now. It would be much better to instead of saving $50 a paycheck for such a duration to buy $50 worth of silver each check after factoring shipping or pawn shop markup. that should amount to 2 ounces of silver every week or 2 and over the same duration of 24 paychecks 48 ounces of silver which the undervalued average spot of ~$16 over the past year works out to 770. Of course you would have more 'wealth' with the gold but I am talking about prepping within your means. Because at the end of the day bullion should not be the only thing that you are working your ass off to stockpile you are going about it wrong. I'd be at a minimum buying 50 rounds of ammo for every 20 spent on bullion and when you factor in other necessary supplies to be purchased you quickly run into the territory of only being able to afford silver for the time being unless you like I said have money falling out of your ass. .

The young people are no better. A crash would see pic related with women floating to the top again. Men catering to women under a banner of equality rarher than seeing them as property, is causa prima why society is fucked.

You do not exactly understand my shill, we want our shit, and you will be force to draw a fucking line. And you have to gain some fucking respect because certainly do no respect some fucking cunts because you are not able to bring that precision and all you see is like a fucking insult, and do not go down the psychological road because we will wreck you you fucking moron. And i will show that to you.

I have no idea what's going on in your pic

Believe me, I would love to cut them along with ALL forms of gibs, but reasonably speaking we won't. They will continue to drag us down like a faggot who can't swim drowning all his fellows who can.

I also know the gibs will not be there for me. We aren't getting fucking pensions from our McJobs, for damn sure. Pensions, what a ridiculous notion. Paying someone who doesn't work for you… All the companies might get individually fucked on it. I hope they go bankrupt and can't pay the pensions.

Actually, that's a good point for investment strategy. See who does and does not have pensions to worry about funding.

SS is a ponzi scheme and it will crash on our generation.

So you paid it off by 2014 magically? Did you buy it in Detroit or something? Or do you think renting an house thru a mortgage is ownership? I suggest you explain to user's exactly what path can be taken, not claiming you are some hot shit and demand to be taken seriously.

The overall gist of the advice is valid. But you are a conceited faggot of no worth if you cannot lay out paths in which others can take stock of as to the viability and likelyhood of it working in their own situation. This is how you get people thinking and working.

Most of your advice is predicated upon having an rather large amount of disposable income btw. Even if you work hard to keep costs down. Explaining what and how and why along with the priorities would work better at inspiring people. Go inna woods, build glass house, win. Isn't exactly sound advice and ignores the reality of many whom if starting on such endeavors will be facing some very serious problems is a collapse happens shortly, which is a very real possibility. Our elites are hell bent on not giving an inch.

Not trying to attack you user. You are an faggot, but your heart is in the right place so I would encourage you to continue. But remember one thing before you address ANYTHING I said.

I've got like ~17,000 sitting in an account gonna go buy some silver and ammo now.

If it would crash on our generation we make them pay, and these people are weak by the way they grew up and they will pay. They introduced feminism and immigration, for their very own interests, and now they want to stifle our own, i guess they arent in charge and they will beg us. And i have 0 respect for them because they will be the submissive ones, for their own interest. Ihr ekelhaften missgeburten.

Yes, but its not like kikes aren't already well stablished in Russia, check billionaires in Russia, they have many info in stormfront.

I like you. Luckily enough for people with aspirations such as ours, we will probably live to see the current system collapse and all these people will just end up starving… in massive numbers. I plan on being far from population centers when that happens. I'm going to be on red alert come autumn.

Just like the old assholes that held up little signs for the introduction of refugees for virtue signaling.
The only praise you should get someone spitting in your face.

Is engrish your third language? WTF is going on in your mind here?

A crash would make whores float to the top? How the fuck? Like as prostitutes for real or something or are you saying beta men will marry them or…. god damnit. How does it work that when people cannot afford to eat people will give two shits about equality for whores?

If you have money to invest I would suggest you either start a very small business with as little overhead as possible or invest in your own knowledge base. Any current business is based upon a debt scheme were any excess projected capital is bad, while maxing out your debt potential is good. A big enough crash ruins those companies, contagion is a serious threat for virtually all companies you can invest in thru normal channels.

Please keep it on the low down. With the risks ongoing now bank bailouts and seizures of assets may be a very real risk. They have to they will try and confiscate gold and silver, and if they know you bought a good amount recently they may knock on the door.

For me I look at gold and silver as hedges for a major collapse. Shit gets real, and my area draws a short straw, it might be what can get my family out of dodge if the getting is good. Looking to preserve wealth is a fools errand I feel at this point, but not saying that you cannot make some serious gains in any collapse if you do things right and the cards fall your way. Good luck. Remember opsec.

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And if crypto crashes?

Out jew the jew if possible for everyone else it is what you suggest.

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This reads like it was translated from spicnigger. There is no way to keep social security going. None. And there is no reason to either. Social security was nothing more than a scheme to allow boomers to spend more of their income of frivolity but it did so by pillaging from the the next generations. The entire way it is structured ensures that it will fail before the last boomer dies meaning that no one under 40 is ever going to see a dime of what they are paying into it unless they become crippled.

And on top of that social security was used as a slush fund to fund communist groups. So fuck social security and fuck you.

If that happens then it means the grid has gone down and shit is so bad you won't have to worry about where your money is because you'll be dead or fighting for your life.

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Don't forget how much money is recently being funneled into digital currency. The market cap for these digital coins nearly doubled in a few months. More and more people are putting money into it and not cashing out, but buying stuff with it. Even less value for the dollar.

You're a genius user.

Social security is only working of society as whole pulls on the same string, the old assholes arent doing that since they never contributed anything to the well being to that nations memetically, all they did was being self content ignorant idiots that could have a family and wealth with little education and their smugness lead them to be exactly that toothless anemic submissive retards that will count on their pensions like they are doing today. And now they will pay the price.

seriously, kikes like you that keep spewing that 'crypto is fiat' is getting on my fucking nerves.

And you shouldnt really try that shit on me you little cunt. And i do not give a fuck about your communist shit you little fuck, and i do not give a fuck about your capitalist shit. And in a way you should pray to god that you never really harvested any data on us, and i mean that.

Can everything just hold the fuck off for like 5 years. I'm trying to be a mailman here

Use your position to sabotage the System. Get armed and get ready. Organize and link up with fellow White nationalists and bring others into the fold.

I'm sure those "water is wet" people get on your nerves too.

- 1 in 4 Americans is jobless
- 53% of Americans don't pay taxes.
- 20+ trillion of government debt
- 226+ trillion debt on inundated liabilities [pensions, social sec etc etc]
- Of the 300~ million Americans, this means they owe the government roughly $720,000 per American.
- 1 in 5 Americans has less then $3000 saved for their retirement.
- Central banks have become the market by buying up anything that seems to be crumbling to stave off a cascading collapse.
- Inflation has destroyed the petrodollar, majority of earned wages can not even afford a basic standard of living.
- BRIC has created a Gold backed currency, they know whats coming, while only Russia and China have openly admitted it.

Either the crash is coming or the Central banks will simply keep printing and quantitative easing until the money is completely worthless and you need 1 billion dollar notes to buy a loaf of bread aka Zimbabwe style. The latter is what Keynesian economists favor, which should be rewarded with a headshot. When you look at volume you can see the market is gone, only big players such as the central banks are keeping up with this bullrun. Every month people are exiting the US economy. 2008 was nothing, it's artificially postponed while more and more Americans fall into poverty. This is going to become the great depression of the twentyfirst century, the perfect time to wipe the kikes off this planet in one fell swoop. Direct the anger.

And in a way it is like two cervine do their sophisticated dance that only works in their infight.
And then a bull comes a long and kills them both.

This. That guy's meme reeked of liberal lies. The actual budget for the military was something like 16% in 2015, I think you could add in another 4% for paying down the interest on the debt.

Is that legal tendies?

Man I've been hearing exactly this for the past 10 years, including all these reasons and more.

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user, you are correct. When one creates a Nation of indulgence and egocentrically maintained profits, where consumption, materialism and status are celebrated while destroying the original culture by flooding it with subhumans the end of the Nation as they know it has already been signed, it is merely time that will ultimately destroy it from within. When one creates a financial system where kikes and good goys use the money, given to them in good faith, to then use it in their friends ponzi scheme's while never being held responsible it is a created system of thievery and usury. Yes, the boomer generation does indeed deserve what is coming to them for being such blithering buffoons for believing in the kike lies.

Never forget, even when you have jumped off the cliff of destruction and are mid fall (weimar), it isn't to late to lead the younger generations still on that cliff edge to pull you back up and alter your path.

I checked the calendar but it's not even September yet, you're a bit early OP.

You want to know what is going to happen? Massive fucking unrest.

Back in the Great Depression, it was mostly whites in the US and we really didn't have a welfare state to speak of. People were used to working and not living off the government. But now? Now we have shitskins galore of all colors and with various proclivities for violence. And as we all know, they are overwhelming and disproportionately living off of government welfare. Here's what will happen:

Economy shits the bed.
Not enough GDP/taxes/money/etc to even service the payments of national debt
Government defaults
Government cannot pay welfare/EBT/health care to the R-selected lower class hordes
No welfare or EBT? No money to buy food? Shitskins riot
Massive unrest, nation goes to shit.
At this point, who knows where the country goes from here.

The economy is too overinflated for something to not happen. And when it does, it is going to be ugly. But many anons and myself included see a sliver of hope as this may be the opportunity to have the shitskins self-deport once their gibs run out and enough unrest to allow cleansing of the rest

So you've heard it in 2007?

If i would sum up the amount of respect the younger generation has for the boomer generation in essence: they would rather pull the trigger than feeding your lazy asses another decade or two. If i would sum up that from the emotional side, it also speaks dearly if "they" want to give responsibility to those who own nothing because their shit generation never amounted to anything from a certain point of view.

If there's no jobs, no gibs, and everyone's retirement funds just vaporized into a kike-scented fog then all the PTB had better watch their backs.

You can turn the troops on us for a while, but sooner or later some of them are going to turn those guns around.

If everything I have goes tits-up at this point I honestly don't see what I have left to lose.

Oh boy I can't wait for this to be a repeat of last September and the September before where absolutely fucking nothing happened
Meme responsibly. Memeing into existence a jewish-led economic collapse is not going to do an ounce of good.

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economic happeningfags are the worst, most of them are just making shit up to shill gander mountain or some survival saws

You should better listen to shitposting leftists that think they are really smart by making the right wing stupid, but in the end they will even look more stupid than they looked to begin with :^).

Ofc those massive intrinsic values are skyrocketing i can already see the amount of new houses and cars pile up in front of my door, i would have to write an angry letter to the government to all the wealth it created over night by algorithms and fat lesbians.

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There should be a new element on the periodic table called FL, for fat lesbians, it reacts with anything of nonvalue and turns it into value through the postmodernistic given value that was within.
There should be a memetic potential called contempt, i assume the NSA and silicon valley has the monopoly of that.

This is the only play the jew has. Gas the Rothschilds. Fuck the deep state.

That brings me to my new meme, i imagine a really muscular powerfull wojak with the a gladiator helm and a chain held by frogs and on the other side is shlomo shekelstein or a derivat of their minions preferably some diseased leftists.

Electric boogaloo two

Can't wait for it.
We can use this and go full American Empire
>inb4 Our leader Trump will reforge America into the first galaxtic Empire
>inb4 we storm troopers now

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Fuck you Carlos

Im sure theres a way to structure it so it is lulzy and also scientifically sound. There is a serious triggering to be had here.

wtf i hate 8ch now

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Make elements along with their heads and a reaction table that creates other structures.
Preferably ahead of time.
Like muslims and diseased leftists etc.

You realize we were all within hours of a real collapse in 2008 right? We're still living with the emergency interest rates which helped prop the whole thing up.

The best argument against a massive 1929 crash is that retail participation simply isn't there. You can't have a massive drop in value until you have a saturated market and spook people that race to take money out.

Yes, valuations are stupidly high, but when fucking everyone has their pension in the US market, and even foreign governments are putting their pension money there, nobody racing toward the exit even in a crisis.

Americans actually must hunt and kill kikes, lefties, and muslims to recover. We need to make the US a bad place for traitors to be if we go wrol.

In 1993 where he incorrectly predicted that as part of a "deep depression…Clinton is going to be a one-term president?

He guessed the U.S. Subprime mortgage crisis, though much earlier than it actually occurred.

It's not for everyone, and it takes a special breed, but I'm sure there are quite a few anons here that would enjoy it more than what they're doing now.

If the silicon lesbians like niggers so much why dont they use some of their money to transfer it to detroit and use it as they see fit to improve their situation and build some infrastructure or something of value. It would show that they arent some hyped up cunts that can also do the
pragmatic, what be a litmus test. If they believe in their "ascension" they could also show that works in a nigger ghetto.

We're in the fall time line, the world gets torn apart by marxist and capitalism in an almost illustrative manner of man's folly

The rise timeline actually has a 1000 year reich and are already pooping around the solar system

I heard about bitcoins when they were worth pennies each, why didn't I spend a few dollars on them just for the lulz?

I know that fucking feel

establish inroad with bikers and motor cycle clubs they are arming europeans to the teeth. I can't wait for the mud massacre to begin.

One white america sees Europe freeing itself from shitskins i hope violence becomes the norm here for dealing with the brown skinned trash.

Shut up jew, I mined a bitcoin six years ago, bitcoin is not fiat.

You don't have to steal anybody's gold. Just do something like Hitler did (state issued, labor-backed marks). Of course you should own some gold and silver personally, just in case, because Hitler's way works, but it falls apart the moment the government becomes corrupt again.

It's easier to kill mass murder Europeans than it is to force the corporations to move their factories back to the US.

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You can buy gold coins that are less than 1 oz. They make them in 1/2 and 1/4 oz, maybe even smaller size. I say try to get both, but buy in the dips. There's platinum and palladium, which are priced in between silver and gold. You can find prices on kitco.com.
Another thing to look out for are old coins (1963 and earlier IIRC) that have varying amounts of silver and copper. Hard to find in circulation nowadays though.

If Trump were to force people to stand in lines instead of use a welfare card people would riot.

marijuana is a super low maintenance 3 or 4 times annual crop. alcohol can be made with yeast and sugar. you sound like a useless degenerate

If we just turned off EBT/SNAP one day the country would sort itself out pretty quick. except for the JQ

Ok Holla Forums

Wat do. I hear people suggest i sell all the metal because id loose any gains from interest on debt, but i can fucking bury it or give it to friends, along with the guns, and id still be 20k in debt. I feel SAFER keeping it especially since the economy is clearly about to rape civilization

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What you want are trade items. Toilet paper, lighters, potable water, storable fuel, tampons, shaving razors, any and every kind of medicine you can get your hands on from bandaids to any kind of drug, etc etc etc.

If you can't see yourself trading it to somebody else for a can of beans, or keeping you alive long enough to trade for that can of beans, it should be secondary.

We should refrain from generation talk or blame, it's a typical tactic the kike likes to use to create division and foster hate for one another. You can not blame someone nor a generation of people for being mislead, you can call them idiots for having done so and point out their wrong ways for having put up trust in a kike debt usury based spending spree. They should have shackled their government after WWII and demanded recession for a decade to pay off the war debts.

People want independence and the ability to stand on their own feet, when this isn't possible because working is made useless by inflation from usury then they will all throw in the towel and just take up the gibs train. Why work 40hrs if someone on welfare is better off? Work has to pay off for the individual as well!

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those are called bullets. then you don't even have to trade them, just threaten to

Fuuug $800/week, sorry user. Is that at least after taxes and what's already taken out in benefits?

You should understand by now that metals are a way to keep wealth past a economic crash! It's not meant to be sold at the peak just before the crash happens, before the depression hits, neither is it meant to be sold during the depression, even when you become convinced it is a good profit.

Precious metals also lose value during crashes. What metals are about is retraining spending power! When a new currency or valuation is introduced, your precious metal will be able to buy you a hell of allot more then it did before or during the crash. Metals are only going to boom now, but just know that those in charge of our economy can pull the plug at any day and within a matter of hours the system will come to a grinding halt.

You might be able to short metals, buy low, sell high, but that requires active involvement and with a 30k capital it's not really worth it unless you take large risks and a proactive approach.

What is more important then wealth is practical things to survive a crash. There will be a food and water shortage. Stack food as well like a prepper or homesteader. Ability to grow your own food is important but if your in a jail city then simply having the food is more important.

Most economic crashes last less then a year, austerity can last a decade.

Ok thanks for reaffirming my position. I did buy it to preserve wealth initially and bought pretty cheap, i figured if it does go up i only benefit. But yeah, i do have a long term goal in mind with this.

I have a green thumb but i live in a suburb in jersey, so hopefully it doesn't get too bad for me here.

I did.

Peter Schiff predicted it prior and was right.

And what you also want is a couple good quality terry cloth towels to serve as cleanable asswipes. There is nothing worse for your moral, which is the most important factor for survival, than not having something to wipe your ass with, trust me.

Holla Forums in general has been expecting a crash for a few years now, just wait for September to roll around again and we will probably see the happening hype again. When it does happen, we need to pin it on the likes as hard as fucking possible, they run the fed, they run wall st, hey run the news, and if we get an economic colapse with the significant normie sphere power Holla Forums has gathered over the past year, I think we can 1933 this 1929.

When it actually happens every single fucking one of you needs to leave your fucking computer and run outside screaming bloody fucking murder about how the kikes did it, and the why and how of it. At that point we either reach the plebs and they grab torches and pitchforks or the kikes will retain the ability to escape scott free to do it again to our childrens children.

True and at that point your SHTF emergency supply of beans, bullets and bandages that you set aside maybe about a grand for is what will matter.

lel

Just have a well done reimagination of the Reichsmark and Reichspfennig and the politics to boot and we can begin.

WEEEEEEWWW WEEEEEWWWW

We all know what'll happen.
You're just seeing the death throes of the Republic.
It all happened before and it will happen again. The degeneracy. The invasions. The economic malaise.
IT's time for an Emperor.

All a product of debasing the currency. It happened to Rome too.

dubs of roman decadence

What's your job, slave ?

Plot twist, stocks are NOT overvalued. Dollar is.

What? They didn't do it you fucking moron. The ones controlling our societies did, if you're a fucking retard that can't understand how the world works, how our societies work, they why the fuck do you post here?

Lurk more and learn it's the fucking jews that introduced both things.

Who is making all these sham stock threads? First we had that "crash every 7 years jewish holday" nonsense, what was the name if it ? shemita?

Enough Holla Forums.

In the near future they will eliminate cash by hyper inflating it in the USA, or outright banning it else where.

Once cash has been hyper inflated they will give people a charge card. There won't be any wheel barrels of cash, like we don't have any bread lines.

I STILL HAVE OVER 100 CANS OF TUNA FROM LE SHEMITAH 2015!!!!

FUCK YOU ECONOMYFAGS!!!!

MFW ITS NEARLY OUT OF DATE!!!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

I just hope it holds off long enough for me to position myself properly. I am sure that if such a situation happens within 10 years our side will at a minimum survive, but if it happens tomorrow I may not be there.

Nigger, what are you doing? You buy another 100 cans and use the previous ones as meals. If you can have that shit on hand, you want it on hand INDEFINITELY.

Bitcoin is completely taken over with kikes.

The Blockstream/Core zombie army are convinced they need to kill Bitcoin in order to save, of something. I don't don't even know what or if they are thinking these days.

Meanwhile, the Bitcoin media space is absolutely as infested and corrupt as MSM.

In one example, we have this Bitcoin "news aggregator" account:

twitter.com/PrecioBTC/status/865150494745911297

Posting an article by this flithy fucking kike:

twitter.com/MatiGreenspan

…and nobody bats an eye.

Don't eat them all in one sitting you'll get heavy metal poisoning

Nigga I opened up one of these I bought 5 years ago and it's still fresh as fuck.

Huge quantity per can too - it took me 2 weeks to finish.

How will Bitcoin act if this happen? Will everyone sell it aswell?

Is it a stupid idea to sell stocks and just keep the money in my bank-account or should I buy gold with it?

You burgers have no imagination, a gun isn't the only thing that can kill. sharpened stick if necessary.

have cheap small usb stick jam packed with red pills, and be ready to hand them when the time comes if you find a receptive ear.

Let's stop using bitcoin, go for gold!!!
Let's stop using gold, go for Silver!!
Let's stop using metals, go for Fiat
Let's go for baskets weaved underwater

They can't destroy crypto coins, so they amass as much as they can, and buy any company that manages to make money with it. The ones who actually own most bitcoins are the Chinese, because their fucking coin is a joke worse than the dollar, the huge spike in bitcoin/altcoin price is thanks to the Chinese and Japanese
seekingalpha.com/article/4073745-major-world-events-affect-bitcoins-value

Bullshit
Precious metal are one of the few things that have value during a crash, and go up in price greatly.

Gold dipped in price briefly after the sub prime crisis (housing bubble) but within a few years had doubled in value.

silver a similar story.

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This is not an unreasonable suggestion.

If it happens now and all the keynesians magically denounce their false economics it would be about that scale.

On the other hand if the Fed under keynesian (((Jennet Yellen))) tries to stimulate the economy out of this we will see something that will make the great depression look like a pothole right before the edge of a 1000 foot drop

doesn't that mean that the dollar just decreased in value by a factor of 2?

and you ignored my chart showing gold price in a crash.

What stable proxy are we to measure the value of gold against?
Stocks: manipulated, no

USD: fiat printed in existence arbitrarily with no value, no

Oil: production rates controlled by cartels, no

In the next crisis will be holding pms and cryptos and i'll be much safer that people who aren't.

2008 was a short term recession with a bail-in to save everyone. Which causes mass inflation, trillions of QE from CB's. It wasn't a crash like i showed you in the graph. Value of precious metals always goes up in uncertain times as investors try last ditch efforts to escape the FIAT system. If you bought metals just after a depression in a recovery, it's going to be a easy ride to the top with time, if there is a FIAT system in place.

The point is, if you're left holding the bag when the peak is about to come or has been reached, that fiat currency is most likely going to be useless for the next decade and it is extremely unlikely that the same currency is issued after a real crash. Why would you sell your metals when you know a crash is coming. Even if the same currency is continued, it is going to be fully dependent on the exchange rate or valuation set by the government of the new currency. While precious metals etc will have a higher purchasing power during a depression or after it during the recovery.

I am planning to buy a 3D printer in case of a total failure of the economical system.
What should I look for in them? Where is the best board to ask about this?

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Here's another video on the subject from yesterday.

Warning: ear rape due to bad audio glitching here and there, so turn volume to reasonable levels.

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All commodities crash during a market crash, including gold. But you still want to own the gold. And you want to own whatever commodity you think will make a recovery.

My guess is gunpowder and metal will make a rebound.

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the tide crashes on august 27

i couldnt be happier

buy canned food. stash it. get camping equipment, practise with it.
exercise and get in shape.
lastly, build up a network of people you trust and are on the same level as you.
then train and wait.

Damn daniel look at those dubs

"Zombies" is just an analogue for starving, thirsty, city-dwellers.
The cities love to put down everyone who lives outside the cities, they love to play that they're more intelligent, more sophisticated, tougher, etc….like the presumptuousness of the old song about NYC, "if I can make it there, I'd make it anywhere."

The truth is, it is far easier to "make it" in a region with millions of potential customers/followers/rubes than it is to "make it" in a region of limited markets and far less population.
Cities survive entirely on support from outside…just imagine what would happen if that support dried up.
They need fuel for their power plants brought in by constant train traffic, they need their food trucked in, they need their water taken from outside aquifers and pumped in…they even need pumps to simply take the water from street level all the way up within their high-rises.

In a SHTF scenario, all this disappears…and it disappears in a region of MILLIONS of hungry & thirsty mouths.
They will start to get thirsty, they will start to get hungry…then, as people who have spent their entire lives dependent on infrastructure support will do…they will demand relief from the government. And when the government can't give it to them, they will riot. When they realize rioting will not gain them anything, they will fall on each other, and kill for the last scraps of survival-critical resources.

They will eventually end up eating each other, after all the rats and cats are gone.

Some may try to leave, but the smart ones would already have done so, and they have no place to go…an armed and defensive populace, with their own problems, will not allow them to flood the rural areas…the response will be, "move along" and it will always be at the barrels of the guns held by local militia.
They will either die of starvation, or be shot to death. A SHTF scenario has little room for mercy or charity.

And if you think the military has the resources to stop this from happening, you forget that their first priority will be taking care of themselves. Oh, they may try at first, but eventually, like everyone else, they'll be trying to wait this out.

Zombie = desperate. thirsty, dazed, half-starved citizen.

Just like Europe is stopping the hordes of mudslimes, right?

Europe isn't shooting them, and they're even encouraging them to come.

Nobody out here will hesitate to shoot you if you're foraging on their land, and the communities will band together to watch each other's gardens & farms.
Hunters with scoped rifles will have no problem picking you off, especially if you're stumbling around at night in unfamiliar territory. And if you make it through the night unseen, you'd better not be a stranger around at daybreak, after crops have been pilfered.

As for the bodies…dogs and pigs need to eat, too, you won't go to waste.

why would chinks land in alaska when russia is closer? wouldnt chinks land in cali instead?

one can only hope

So what do I do with a 401k?

if it wasn't for Texas oil the US would still be in recession right now.

the bail in was just to save the banks and the ultra large speculators. Main street didn't get bailed out, lot of little people went to the wall and faced a depressed economy with high unemployment and a general lack of monetary circulation.

It wasn't a crash like i showed you in the graph.

the USD has been debased thoroughly since 2008 with 3 rounds of money printing, if it was not for that, the crash/depression would have completely dwarfed 1929. Many corps have borrowed money to buy their own stock to pretend to the market that they still have value. The stock market is completely fake at this point, eventually that bubble will burst.

Underrated post.

don't forget
needles (to repair clothes and as trade items)
batteries (any sizes but AAA, AA and 9v especially)
any canned food (especially meat)
duct tape
crazy glue
bleach
soap
liquor

Just make sure you live at least half a tank of gas away from anywhere heavily populated. this will put you out of reach of the the typical first wave leaving cities. Anyone (from the city) who knows where you live is likely to come visit in SHTF, make sure you have a use for them and a place fro them to sleep.

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youtube.com/watch?v=w0Oz2R0u4VM

this man is predictving it too, vid from 2 days ago

So just eat it faggot and replenish your stock with newer cans, kek. Start looking up some good tuna dishes.

Depends on whether you're willing to risk. Have you reached the limit your company is willing to match you? Then there's no reason to have it in there anymore anyway.

They did, both in stock and real estate. Lots of people bought loads of nice homes for dirt and sold them just years later for double or even triple what they bought them for. lt makes a great opportunity for people who have money and want to make more.

Mike's is the best. He doesn't scare you; he's more interested in explaining economics and money in easy to udnerstand ways. I always link to Hidden Secrest of Money on threads like this.

Watch this, fags.

Though he's not the only one predicting an incoming crash.

The market will never crash. It can’t, because the kikes know that any new crash ends in their worldwide genocide. That’s not hyperbole; they know it even when WE don’t think it would happen. QE4, QE5, QE6, total debt forgiveness; NOTHING is beyond reckoning anymore. There is nowhere else they can go with interest rates. It has to collapse or it has to be reset.

Dont be a dick and buy enough seeds for you and your neighborhood as a prep item.

People focus on starvation and how most city dwellers would starve within a month and a half. If everything fell apart it would be much, much quicker than that. Looting would be almost immediate and the strongest and fastest 20% would have all of the water that is to be found in any convenience store. And how many of these people keep more than a weeks worth of water? most of them drink from the tap. A very lowball estimate is that 20% would die of thirst within 5 days. And before they die of thirst they would be rioting and killing each other for water. I did an experiment in high school. I wanted to see what happened to the body in such situations so I went as long as I could without sleep, without food and with very minimal water intake (20 oz a day) I lasted 3 full days. And wew you start feeling the effects by the end of 24 hours, your mentality and perception changes drastically. I could have gone maybe 2 more days but at the end of day 3 I started worrying that I was losing my mind so I stopped the experiment

And with all serviced ceased.. We have 20% of them dead. Using nyc as an example.. thats over a million dead, rotting corpses. Diseases that havent been seen in a thousand years would be transmitted almost immediately.

I bet you it is entirely reasonable to assume that 80% of the population of such a city would be dead within 2 weeks tops. And using NYC as the example again.. There are only so many ways out of that city. Remember the millions walking over the bridges on 9/11? They were civil because they werent starving and panicked. Such hordes trying to leave would be killing each other along the way. And where are they going to go? They could cross the bridges into brooklyn or queens but they would be going into areas that are just as over populated as manhattan. and from there where would the go? Many would probably decide heading east to the rich long island area would be a good idea. but without outside support long island is just a slightly less populated food desert. And where else? North Jersey? Same deal. North Jersey is nothing but massive industrial areas and ghettos. And if they go north.. There's only a couple of cities that would also be long past looted of food and water. And then theres the fact that no new yorkers know how to do anything outdoors. I think its a reasonable estimate that at most 0.01% of them are able to survive a month.

And it would play out similarly everywhere else. Many areas would be able to last a bit longer but it wouldnt be long before they hunt the local fauna to extinction.

The single best move any smaller cities and towns could make would be to IMMEDIATELY commandeer all construction equipment and destroy all over passes and bridges near by and create huge barriers on any road leaving town that connects to other cities.

You should have enough seeds to last you atleast 3-4 years. Even if you have well water and a good pump for the love of god have a spare pump on hand it is resource expensive to irrigate crops that way when you are generating the electricity yourself. And theres no guarantee that shit wont fail on you eventually. And if you have one dry summer My area in florida is currently at desert levels of rainfall for the year then there is a very good chance that you may not be able to grow enough crops to both put in your stomach and store enough seeds for the next crop. And if your crop crashes and you dont have seeds stored you are good and rightly fucked.

If you're thirsty you can drink your pee, completely sterile and fine to drink. You should be able to do a month easy on pee and foraging if you arent in some total hellhole.

That only works for a day or two. Because you are drinking the waste that your body filtered out as no good for you or not needed. After a couple of times drinking your own piss you have triple distilled it into pure toxic waste. And while it is mostly made up of water you will be giving yourself organ failure before long.

Its extra disgusting but from a survival standpoint two or more people drinking each others piss will sustain them longer. Conversely you could piss in a jar and then distill the liquid water out of it. But without precision equipment to regulate the temperature at which it is distilled that liquid water would still contain some of the waste products that have a evaporation point similar to water.

It was a fallout reference, also attacking the mainland head on would be a lot more complicated. You don't just have california's defences to worry about but all the military support coming from Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, etc.

I heard North Korea has lot of rare earth metals waiting to be exploited. Between them, the US, and China, I was thinking of buying some of that shit

That's not true at all. Plenty of survival situations and my own experience drinking pee have shown that's not the case. Also, your gut bacteria help make antibodies for the noxious stuff in your urine so it can help the immune system, hence "urine therapy"

Best guides or tl;dr versions? I am willing to do long versions because I have been neglecting this like a nigger.

Burgers are making auto turrets out of video game software for shits and giggles. Burgers are making drones out the ass. Burgers own enough ammunition to spot WW2 for its entire conflict and still have enough left over for a little extra funs. Burgers can blow up cars for shits and giggles.

What can non burgers do? Get arrested for carrying more than one dull spoon since it is considered a dangerous weapon? Seriously, sharpened stick is what you have to resort to, and you mock burgers? At least upgrade to sling and rock, or is that illegal too in bongistan.

Vices go fast in times of strife. A jug of whiskey is more valuable than gold if things fall through. Alternatively, knowing how to make fuels for cooking and heating means you don't go hungry. Read up on what happened in Yugoslavia when it balkanized.

I'll add to this in some way.

Many rural individuals whom are aware and awake have night vision and thermal optics to go along with their hordes of ammunition and rifles they have been practicing with for years on. Moving at night might actually be one of the worst fucking things to do unless you know the area and are supported. Curfews are a thing warlords will enforce to ensure when someone is out and about and not recognized they can be engaged without fear of friendly fire issues with the local populace. With the advent of cheap as fuck solar panels and ubiquitous cameras everywhere (country boys love that shit believe it or not) those combat multipliers mean even an sneaky as fuck ninja is going to be seen coming a mile away and never know it.

Feeding the dogs will be especially important. Healthy dogs are great guards, hunters and companions. Processing excess zombie meat thru pigs is a great use of resources which would go to waste and a huge return on valuable meat. Just remember not to let them eat the brain, organs or feet and hands. Chickens are also voracious meat eaters believe it or not, and when on a heavy meat diet can produce two or three eggs a day in turn. Also, saving the brain for when you slaughter a cow provides a valuable resource for converting the hide into leather naturally. Humans have massive brains and cow brains are not enough to sufficiently process their own hide without chemicals.

Human skins and bones will be handy as scarecrows, bonemeal and warning signs on approaches. Also excess clothes and resources humans bring with them would be invaluable later since it will take time to replace the supply lines and factories needed to supply new clothes, shoes and belts. Captured vehicles will be a great boon for local manufacturing and repair. And of course if you have access to trade routes willing to buy, captured zombies make good slaves to sell for outside resources, or as temporary field hands doing hard work before processing.

Friendly reminder:
The stock market crash had basically fuck all to do with the problems of the great depression. The starvation was caused by the dust bowl. As long as our agriculture survives the only people who will really be affected by this are the (((elites))).

nice larper fantasy

point to the part that is larping

What Bosnian guide?

pretty much the whole gamut of gearqueering, pseudo-cannibalism, tall talking and so-forth. its just typical happening fag larping where people masterbate how tough they are with their cool tech gear like optics

Look up shtfschool or selco. Should help new people get a grip with what we are looking at when this happening…. fucks us. I hope you all survive you glorious bastards, I love you guys.

Just remember. It was real. And don't freak out. Always stop and think and extrapolate. If you are starting just now, focus on the basics first and work your way up. Start working on goals immediately. Don't try and buy and horde trinkets and toys in a mad dash to 'prep' your way to surviving, doesn't work. Those things enhance your ability, the real trick is getting the know how into that hard head of yours.

Allrighty then. Whatever floats your boat achmed. It is all pretend and everything is all a.o.k. Nobody is thinking about this shit, nobody is actually planning how to do this kinda shit. And nobody is going to waste their time or money collecting the things needed to survive something that will never ever happen.

People have been telling a version of this story for years but the happening never happens. There are 1000 versions of this story at zerohedge.

What these people won't predict is the catalyst and the timing.

The game will go on so long as our military ensures nothing threatens the dollar's status as the world's reserve currency.

The kikes have managed to completely mind control most of the "Bitcoin community" and turned them into muh segwit! drooling retards.

These so-called cypherpunks are rallying around the flag of Bitfury, the official Clinton Foundation mining pool, taking money from the CIA front organization Digital Currency Group, while siding with kikes in Israel to attack the one major miner who's trying to unkike the currency. Pic repated.

If there are any goy segtards in here, when you find yourself fervently taking the side of actual kikes living in Israel, you need to take a long hard look at how you got there and what the fuck you're doing with your life.

For once OP isn't a faggot. There is without a doubt a giant debt bubble. One industry that has incurred massive debt is the healthcare industry. The student loan debt and car loans are another debt bubble. THere is also a chance that finally the chinese real estate bubble could burst. There is a great chance for a happening during this year and the next few.

Is it September already?!

That's the definition of America's destroyed manufacturing.

t. moronic faggot

Should I get into bitcoin? Or is it jewed?

Everything is jewed.

There does not exist any safe haven store of value, because when you think you're storing value in money, you're really deferring consumption now with the expection that your healthy, moral, and productive society will reward you for it in the future.

Our society is evil, sick and dying, therefore all forms of money are also evil, sick and dying.

Invest in skills, generalization, a tribe, and maximize your earning potential under a wide variety of future scenerios.

during the flint water crisis i considered giving myself enemas and bottling the used water to send as goodwill donations to the poor thirsty niggers, until i realized it would mean having to squirt water up my ass.

Land, it's a good investment as it's actually usable and there is a finite supply. It also is very cheap in a collapse and then becomes expensive again back up the wave, but no matter what time you buy it, it's a good store of value.

silverdoctors.com/gold/gold-news/one-year-in-hellsurviving-a-full-shtf-collapse-in-bosnia/

shtfplan.com/emergency-preparedness/a-survival-q-a-living-through-shtf-in-the-middle-of-a-war-zone_10252011

Yeah have you seen all the 0% APR offers with cars lately? Seems just like the 2008 subprime mortgage loans. I'd need to do more research but there's ways to make a decent profit off of that.

Why would you buy emergency food that only lasts 2 years ? It's supposed to be last resort food.

Make sure you also invest in a way to defend that land after you establish your presence on it.
This means both guns and neighbors. Get familiar with both.

That degenerate crop that you can use to treat 1000 different conditions.

it's also a weed and can be grown with practically no inputs in many regions

Not by smoking it, degenerate.

Gee, I wonder.

Guys, look into Micro and Pico water turbines.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico_hydro

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_hydro

I bought in back in 2012 and 2013.

I have nearly 25k floating in BTC right now, maybe more, but I have to go searching for an old bitcoin wallet to see if there's any in there.

Sounds like something worth looking for…

Shut up, capitalism works.

Reminds me to stock up on ammo.

I advise you all to do the same. Someone post the article about the guy surviving societal collapse in the Kosovo war.

Trump can't fix this because the problem is systematic. The bottom is falling out, and not even tax cuts will stop that.
There's too much debt (student loans, mortage, credit cards, medical, etc.), and people just can't keep up with the required growth rates and consumption.
We're also hitting the limits of (human) productivity (similar to Japan). At the same time, jobs are being automated, which means less living wages, and less consumption.

In the best case it stagnates, at worst we'll see an economic down turn worse than 1929, with the whole rotten shed collapsing on itself.

US healthcare is twice as expensive than other countries healthcare, you change it from for-profit, to non-profit, you save half right away.

I swear. You faggots are worse than the infiltrators from the_cuckold.

here you go famalamadingdong

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QUADS OF TRUTH! OH SHIT! KEK IS NOT LYING, WE ARE ON A SINKING SHIP!

Now this guy is thinking.

Looks like I need to call up my vet cousins and grandfather and get a game-plan ready for when shit hits the fan.

one of the factors that people dont take into account is the NYSE plans to just stop the market and hit a reset button and reset the market to yesterday or 3 hours prior in the even of an emergency

its really more like katrina, shitskins will rape and pillage while whites cooperate and freely associate as if no catastrophic event just happened

We stood on the Oakland bridge with weapons with a pack of 60 or so white men and a few women, many of them were cops and some of us were deputized.

We stopped the niggers flooding in from Katrina, they demanded help, we told them to go back to where they came from. They chimped and threatened us. We fired warning shots and even shot the ground in front of one who dared to ignore us and kept walking towards us. Some niggers even took potshots at us with hand guns from a large crowd. We started shooting the bridge overhang where the bullets would fall down on top of them and the ear deafening noise of the bullets hitting the solid metal to scare them away. Some didn't listen, took up defensive positions and kept shooting at us. The cops took direct aim and actually killed a few of these niggers who shot at us. The media would later play the whole muh innocent victim role.

The message was clear to these niggers, white people aren't going to help you and your shit during times of crisis. The FBI even found some of the people involved and sentenced a few cops, but we'll never talk as a community.

All of those niggers walked back over that bridge and stayed near the on-ramp for a day or so before being taken by the national guard to the superdome.

We never talked about it untill the nigger started screeching to the media that it had happened and they were prevented from fleeing at mass with the millions of niggers into our small town by a large group of white people.

usnews.newsvine.com/_news/2012/04/04/11020957-5-former-new-orleans-cops-get-stiff-sentences-in-katrina-bridge-shootings-cover-up

I had a friend told me that he had a contractor who once's told him that during the relief efforts 2 weeks after Katrina, they were trying to get the power back on in neighborhoods, he saw floating bodies and heard constant gun fire around him. They tried to get the power on in black neighborhoods but fell under constant weapons fire, one time these niggers who would sporadically shoot at your general direction even hit their bucket they were standing in. That was the last straw, they ignored the nigger infested hoods, fixed the remaining white neighborhoods and fucked back off to the rural country side.

During Katrina there were also white militia's roaming in Katrina prevent looters and shooting anyone on sight [mostly niggers] who tried to come loot their houses or their neighbors houses who had fled.

This is what happens when rule of law goes out the window, we unite on racial terms and take out the trash.

I remember you, mailman-user. Good luck.

What else happened user? Anymore tales to tell?

I am about to buy gold, how do I know that the gold I bought is real, and then later, how do I sell it?
How will the buyer know that the gold I will sell is real?
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Why would they self-deport? Any crisis in America is going to be felt tenfold in the rest of the world.

I get my gold straight from the source – Teeth.

This. Trying to care for the elderly is a waste of fucking time. They're all spoiled children and so many of them didn't grow a day past twelve.

I've started doing this myself, now that I have a baby on the way. I never thought I'd be a good parent but I will be DAMNED if I am not going to turn this into the best warrior I can.

anyone has the screencap where selco explains how the situation in his city turns to shit
i remember that being a good read too

Look em up, there's plenty of ways.

Those comments in the article disgust me, they have no idea what happened on that bridge and just assume cops we're "hunting for sport"–as fun as that'd be–that's not the case.

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Lot of people talking about deflation as though it is a bad thing. It isn't. It means the people are winning back control of the market from the central banks and the government. Inflation = taxation. Deflation = tax relief.

crypto does have inherent value. Doge and others might not be there yet but bitcoin has reached the point where mining has become uneconomical for most. It therefore is measured in its value by the watts you need to mine bitcoin. That is the minimum value. The maximum value is open ended, just like everything else on this planet.

No, it really doesn't.

I don't care what numbers are factored into what other numbers. I don't care what your network says about these numbers. The math might be perfect, but it does not give anything on your network any value.

gold is smaller than money. Keeping a strong currency like USD (backed by oil), RMB (soon to be backed by gold). My thoughts are 30% (or less depending on how much you have) of savings in local currency since it's used for daily expenses. 30% in strong foreign currency like USD, RMB, HKD, YEN. 30% in gold and silver. IMO silver is the poor man's gold and has more upside potential.

buy it from a bullion exchange shop. Here in Vancouver there are shops where you can buy and sell bullion quickly and easily. Problem is that sometimes the shops get scammed with gold bars filled with tungsten rods, and it's insidious because the shops are unlikely to chop the bars up. have read stories in the newspaper about people buying fake gold bars from shops, though I don't think it's too common. It's like counterfeit currency - it's out there are can be hard to avoid sometimes.

Got a few friends that went there as LE from neighboring areas to restore order. Can confirm what you are saying.

The niggers there were chimping and it really was like motherfucking Liberia. The coons were shooting at the utliity workers, other coons, and even the frigging helos that were trying to save some of the dumbasses that were still stuck on their roofs or passing out water bottles. Gangs were fucking rampant and people had to put these coons down lest that whole area become another Haitian uprising.

The nigs were breaking into local gun stores and stealing their weapons and ammo, and it got so back that I know for a fact "other assets" were brought in secretly to quell the coons and prevent them from forming 'supergangs'. I've had confirmation on that from multiple credible "long tabbed" sources that I know and work(ed) with.

I'm telling you all, get ready for this shit. I've got OC I made that attempts to try and help, but fuck you can lead a horse to water and all……..

In 2008 we were HOURS away from a the entire credit system breaking down. That means ALL credit/debit cards would not work. Not JUST EBT and coon-payment system. I mean EVERYONE could buy anything unless you had cash or could set something else up. How much cash do you have on hand in liquid form?

Difference between US and EU when it comes to student debt is that the government takes that burden (which leads to heavier taxes).

However in a new recession the EU will crash and burn. The trillions of derivatives will cause massive problems, southern European nations which have loans that they pay back over 100 years time will collapse. The way they are being kept alive is a huge redflag. Financially the EU is quite screwed, moreso than the US since the US is more federalized.

It's pretty shocking that people can believe the way southern European states are being kept alive doesn't spell out a major economic crisis incoming. The EU lacks integrity to make any policy that would solve long term issues. It's a clown circus, they're delaying the inevitable which will just make the incoming crisis worse.

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Don't leave us hanging, user. Thanks for corroborating some of the story btw

When I say "liquid cash" I mean actual dollar bills and coins. Non-liquid cash are things like CDs, Checks, Cashier's Checks, etc. that draw money from the 1s and 0s in your bank account. Most likely, non-liquid forms of cash will not be accepted for payment.

Or if they do, it will likely be grocery stores that will accept checks temporarily, but then will refuse that payment as the feral coons descend on the store and general mayhem starts to ensue.

Cash in liquid form will likely be useful as a bridge to get you some supplies that need to be topped off like gasoline/fuel, meds, etc (you should still have a hefty stash at your house). Because after a while, even the cash will be useless as most of the supplies will be stolen by large groups of Obama's sons.

I live very far from any blacks. There are probably 100-500 within a 100 mile radius

How much would a silver quarter be worth if shtf I have a couple hundred would that be useful or would I need more?

That's nice. Don't forget that ALL people are downright animalistic if resources start getting scarce though.

Once little Timmy tells his momma that his little tum-tum hurts because he's hungry, it'll be game-on as people start turning on each other. Then you'll see people's true nature as their masks slip off and what lies beneath is revealed.

Nigs will nog at the drop of a hat and for no other reason than it's a tuesday and Pookie needs entertainment. Whites will do the same, but it usually takes a lot more. They are also much more cunning and will be way more dangerous.

The main point is to find a group you trust. Be it family, close friends, etc. And figure out a plan for mutual benefit and survival. Adapt as necessary. But don't think that just because you have only a handful of coons in the AO that you'll be sitting pretty.

If it's gotten to the point where people are regularly accepting ONLY the pre-64 coins and such, it'll likely be worth whatever the seller thinks it's worth. At today's spot prices, If I remember right, a pre-64 silver quarter will have roughly $2.30 worth of silver content. However, market demands will dictate what it's "worth" will be as a bartering tool if things devolve to that point.

Here are some images I saved from a past thread.

Currently watching the Hidden Secrets of Money series, have $12k cash on hand right now and about $100k invested. Feel like going into gold or silver; can any anons advise on this? Haven't bought precious metals before. Also considering getting a gun, but apartment complex doesn't permit them. Advice there, too?

Bitcoin and bullets, lads.

I seem to remember that bullets and medical resources were the most valuable items in the besieged town in Bulgaria that famously spread over the internet.

You can shoot a pigeon with a bullet to get food, you can leave an empty tin can out during rain to get water. You can not easily manufacture disinfectant or gauze in a WROL situation.

However, non-burgers can not easily stockpile funz and blammo. Improvised weapons are a necessity, but which ones are practical and/or economical?

A small notice about these: some modifications may (will) affect your browsing experience to a point where you won't be able to post here. Everything is, of course, reversible, but my point is don't be a faggot and do all changes at once. Do one at a time so you know who the culprit is if something goes wrong (especially about:config shit in Firefox).

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somehow this is being part of the problem. All you "investment" anons holding your money in in direct control with no real assets.
For living in a healthy economy these kinds of investments should only be something on the side and the rest of your money should go into growth.
Learn a craft, open a business and most importantly: employ people.
No amount of reserve is enough for a bubble burst.

Isn't it interesting how these economics and cryptocurrency threads appear right at the time when the Bitcoing price is about to break so the newretards drive up the price even more?

Could it be the result of jewish tricks?

Jewish tricks confirmed.

Trust the free market, goyim!

Does you apartment complex do random searches of your place or something? Get a damn gun user and at least a thousand rounds of ammo.

They don't do random searches, but they do inspections twice a year (just to check the appliances and to make sure none of the residents are smashing the place up) and occasionally do maintenance visits (replace AC unit filter, etc), so it's more just the assumption of risk. Absolute worst case scenario, they find a hidden gun and evict me, and then I get to scramble for a new apartment.

I'm checking with local gun ranges to see if they have gun locker rentals. Failing that, I'll weigh the risk of eviction.

And I probably also need to find a place to hide the $2-3k of Silver I'm flirting with buying.

If you live in the US, buy a fucking gun and shoot anyone who tries to take it from you. Goddamn cuck.

The great question is can the kikes risk crashing the economy with a Saudi Arabia now armed to the teeth and best buds with Trump?

Remember Saudi Arabia also controls Twitter and Facebook will bow to Russia and Islam, both of whom Trump now has in his pocket. Is this part of Trumps master plan to nip the kike in the ass? Leaving him limp and impotent to hinder economic recovery as the government dumps it all on the banks?

Margin debt will obviously grow if the market grows. As a percentage it remains stable

How about this: 25% of savings on survival equipment. 25% in local currency for daily expenses. 25% in strong foreign currency: USD since it's backed by oil, HKD, RMB, YEN, etc. and 25% in precious metals like gold and silver. What do you guys think?

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD JUST HAPPEN ALREADY

lol, your apartment complex doesn't allow guns. Fuck your apartment complex. Just carry a gun around anyway and keep it well conceiled. Some of us live in countries with VERY strict gun laws so can only get sub-compacts/compacts since they are the only thing you can easily conceal - and smaller guns like G43 can be hard to find and expensive. Where I live a black market block can easily run you 1200USD.

Put your gun in a case, put a lock on it, and stick it under your bed. They should have no right to ask for it to be opened. Regarding eviction, that process takes a while, usually has a step where the tenant has a chance to get into compliance, and they have to get a court order before they can actually kick you out. If you live in a cold climate they may not even be able to evict you during the winter.

Well, it allows guns if you absolutely need one for work. (Ie: You're a LEO or something.) It's just in a yuppie part of town near Seattle; it's not like I live in some nog-infested shithole that has gun violence problems.

The biggest thing that's stopping me is risk aversion; but with the financial happening potentially a thing over the next two quarters, I might risk it rather than be undefended if the shit hits the fan.

PLEASE, I so desperately want to buy a load of bitcoins, but the fucking prices keep rising since 1350

You are here… and you live in one of the most pozzed liberal hellholes on earth? And you haven't been prepping for this shit for years? How new are you man, I am not joking, you need to pack your shit and move now. Seattle is a death trap akin to LA.

the nigger is abiding by some jew landlord's lease instead of the constitution when it comes to his right to bear arms… his judgment is fucked, I don't think a location change is what'll end up saving him.

I'm suitably prepped, excluding the lack of a gun.

If the shit hits the fan, the city will turn in on itself and I'll head east; past the mountains. And I live near Seattle, user; not in it. No way in christ I'd actually live in Seattle.

It's risk management, user. For the moment, I need the lease more than I need a weapon. But only for the moment.

It was 100% intentional to dehumanize people in need as zombies. Here's another one I'll bet you haven't thought of, when all of the MSM whores started using very dark makeup around their eyes was only a couple of years before Fukushima. In my opinion it was to make sick/unhealthy people look "normal" so people wouldn't wake up and wonder what's happening to everyone.

Wrong. People forgot God so He's removing his blessings and protection. Look at the debt of the country when prayer was removed from school and then again when abortion was legalized.

Still waiting? I told you to get started on other things in parallel. Adversity can't kill a man like being idle can.

I agree. I grew up hating boomers because I watched them sit in a chair and waste their lives watching TV while degenerates conspired to destroy the country. But many of them are very hard working and responsible, but naive and trusted their gov and couldn't imagine it being 75% child molesters. Lot's of them grew up on farms or in small towns where radio was novel and were under attack non-stop by technocrat commie faggots.

That means planning ahead by printing out glossy infographs now while you can do it cheap, and laminate them for preservation. Once SHTF don't count on being able to turn on a computer let alone use the internet, but a box of laminated knowledge will be like gold.

I think you're onto something there.

This. When immigration in the 60's was off the chain, the people were lied to that amnesty would be offered once but then border security would be enforced for realz. Then again in the 80's. And again recently with shitskin subhuman savage nigger trash. Blame people for being naive, but blame the people lying to them more.

Destroying fiat isn't just another spin of the moneychanger's puzzle wheel, this time it'll be to push people into crypto->mark of the beast.

Didn't think of that but crypto does complete their intended goal of having a single global fiat currency. It's not technically fiat right now because there's a cap that revolves around using electricity to mine the coins, but what stops them from raising the caps and just adding currency to their accounts when they have everyone buying into the purchasing power and trust the currency. Sure you could make another coin but it's very difficult to make the masses switch to something new once they already have something that marginally works and is established.

I live on the west coast and feel like my health has deteriorated… my eyes have dark circles like nobody's business and they were never this pronounced. But I'm just paranoid. Still spooky, and not too outrageous a consideration.

Many of the hot girls have left the country to suck rich foreign cock. Many smart men saw the collapse of the US coming and have already left. We're left with maybe 30% decent but naive people and the rest human garbage, and they look like it. Not just fat, unhealthy and diseased as fuck. The dark circles under eyes, growths on people's faces, the cycle of morality->prosperity->immorality->degeneracy repeats.

Staying /fit/ is important and HQ supplements are a part of that. I'll shill the InfoWars stuff because I take it and it's breddy good, but whatever you do deal with the fact that we're being poisoned in a multitude of ways.

shemitah 2017

your filename says "defication", the video is saying "deification" which is a yuge difference

You can find the contents of that shit for cheaper elsewhere with the same quality.

NatSoc is keynesian economics..

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So, like the 1990s fashion craze "heroin chic"? It was fashionable for celebrities to have super dark circles under their eyes.

Your selective choice of graphs is misleading.

Can anyone point me towards a place that I can learn more about cryptocurrency and how it works? I've been meaning to get into it but I'm not sure where to start.

Fuck, I know so little about finance in general and it's probably too late anyways but I've got an infinite amount of time to spend as a NEET so it wouldn't hurt to try, right?

And then you will get fucked hard.

GET A GUN. Stick the damn thing between your bed frame and matress if you have to. The biannual smoke detector/etc check isn't going to have people crawling under your bed sheets or wherever. Plus, if it's like any normal place, they'll give you a heads up when they're about to do it. They're not going to find it If you do even the most basic of "hiding". A backpack/gym bag with a disassembled AR and another with a few thousand rounds of mags and ammo will be sufficient. No one is going to start rooting through your shit. Least of all a smelly looking gym back I'm the bottom of a closet surrounded by shoes and shit.

There's no reason to not buy a gun. None.

Same with the silver $2-3k in silver takes up almost no room at all. A shoebox would hide it.

You're going to want these things. They will likely save your life. And that smoking hot chick you save on the way, if you wanna LARP about it.

BTW, remember that there are literally MILLIONS of other fags that have the same "imma just head out to the mountains" Jeremiah Johnson bug out plan so you might need to incorporate the mass urban exodus into your planning.

It's the same as when you don't want the airport to rifle through your stuff. Take your nastiest looking old pair of underwear and some shoes you don't wear any more and put them on top of everything else. People just aren't paid enough to sift through that.

Lel, capped this thread.

Nothing of that matters.
Jump to the 22 minute mark.

Surprise surprise, BTC and ETH crashing and coinbase having problems

Rice is probably the single best thing you can get. It's cheap, high calorie, stores forever and is easy to cook. $100 worth of rice will keep you alive for months.

the invasion didnt happen to rome until it was over

Fair points, user. To be honest, for all of pol's collective talk about 'go inna woods', if the shit really hit the fan, I doubt that even 10% of the people who post here would be actually prepared and able to do anything.

So I'll probably pick up a gun, start going to a local range, and consider getting some gold / silver.

Sweet lord son. I'm starting to am disappoint

Quit being selfish. You can deliver mail in Mulberry after the race war.

These get posted once every few months and I brush them off because people have been calling for the financial system collapse for years.

I've been making DOSH in the market by ignoring these people, we've had one of the best market runs for the past few years.
LISTEN THIS TIME, THIS TIME THEY'RE RIGHT.

I have pulled all my money out of the market, I've made my money and I'm walking away until the next collapse. It may not happen right now, but it is obviously happening soon. They're going to tank the market and blame it on Trump. Trump will be the 'symbol' of nationalism and economic isolationism, and the market crash will be blamed on these ideas.

The signal for the coming crash will be a spike in precious metals. When precious metals spike it will mean that investors no longer have anywhere to put their money.

check those fuckin dubs

HEIL!

Mail-user is back and he brought dubs! Thanks Mail-user

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It will start off the same but the central banks have nowhere to go. Quantitative Easing was an experiment. It has failed. Next time they will have to try something else new, nobody knows what but most likely some kind of en masse debt forgiveness. The only problem is that the rich dislike this immensely, they will do it in the end to save their own skin however.

Totalitarianism and fiat currency's severe debasement are guaranteed. Only question is if will be in a landslide or a slowly shifting downfall.

Products are all made in the East. The West creates artificial value through social engineering (laws, social status, zeitgeist, etc. - services).Western markets are saturated considering job prospects, which is why private debt-to-income is at unparalleled levels and things such as UBI(public debt) are being considered. The West needs more money or the world economy dies, which means more debt.

Platty has follows Gold but is more on/off during a crisis. Nobody talks about it because it was never a monetary metal but who gives a fuck.

It is fiat. It's just fiat controlled by the mob instead of the establishment.

That's for when the Oil bubble peaks. Have you seen the price of lighters from China. There is an oversupply and lack of demand. Just don't have all of your money in paper and you'll be able to afford all the shitty plastic Chinese trinkets and comsumables you could ever desire.

so this is why my bitcoins keep growing by $100 every single day. At this point, my $200 investment from years back is over $30,000 and shows no signs of slowing down. I'm going to fucking die of laughter if someday people on the street will be begging for bitcoins after the US dollar crashed and burns.

I even find it rather foreboding that the news is pushing bitcoin a lot lately. Perhaps they are getting people used to it so when the crash comes it will be easier to force people into cryptos so we're one step closer to a "one world currency".

your cryptoshekels are in a bubble

You really think bitcoin is going to keep on going with this momentum? It's going to burst like dotcom bubble. Its rising by $100 a day because "elite hackers" made a ransom virus and normies computer savvy kids are making thousands with the new internet money.

When we see the next big phisical currency collapse it will be the last. Nations will switch entirely to Crypto.
The (((Central Banks))) don't want this so we'll see the dollar continue to rise until they find a way to destroy Crypto.

forgot to remove sage

Why crypto has no value, its not more useful. Its only value is people hearing of it now and buying in because "if you invested $100 in bitcoin way back you would have $75 million now" meme.

Bitcoin is the new lottery.

I've been looking up on some gear to get for the upcoming collapse. Is there anyway I can get some of this stuff cheaper? I want to funnel as much money into gold/silver as I can before SHTF.

Yup, I've started hearing this from normal fags a lot now, Jews are going to pull some shit on this, the rise it's having cannot go on forever, there's probably going to be a crash before too long. But if every other currency goes down too it's probably more resistant as well. I still feel like land, food, water, supplies and precious metals are your safest bets during a collapse situation.

The main things you should have are a rugged 30 gal bag (50 gallon bags suck balls to haul if you're not trained and ready), a tent or tarp/hammock, a water filtration system (that preferably fits with your water storage system), gun and boolitz, sturdy full-tang knife, fishing gear, trapping gear, sleeping bag rated for all weather including winter, foam sleeping pad, layers for all seasons + extra long socks (get smart wool if you can), flint + lighter, a way to store at least 2 liters of water (through a bag system or two lightweight liter bottles), compass + map (topos are nice) and reserve food like jerky, trail mix or anything else that stores light, dry and doesn't necessarily need cooking. All of that should run you $400 for middle-high quality gear. Majority of the money should be on your spent on your big 4 1. Shelter 2. Pack 3. Sleeping bag 4. Sleeping pad. Those you do not want to skimp on.

If you want to use this for hiking you'll need things like a cooking system and some other luxuries while removing the fishing and trapping gear as you'll more than likely not being doing that on an official trail.

Whenever they start shilling Bitcoing on forums and imageboards it's time to sell.
The Bitcoing value is like a plane going steeper and steeper. Eventually it's going to brake to correct itself and that is really soon.
I've been riding this sell high and dump low train for a while now and it's piss easy. Just rely on dumb newfags to drive up the price when they hear of it in the news.
And it's a fun way to gamble

don't worry about prices on anything. This correction is going to kill our currency. Same will happen in Europe. When all the money due comes in they're not going to have any 401K's to raid.. they only can print it. adding trillions of USD and Euros to an already shaky, inflated currency zone will destroy our currencies, just like Germany. They did it before and they'll do it again

I keep seeing threads like this. For the past year or so "IT'S GONNA HAPPEN SOON BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHEN BUT IT WILL HAPPEN SOON"… Still waiting. I don't not believe it, but I've yet to see it :/

*yawn*

if you watch economic cycles, you will see it has happened and continues happening

If you want a quality source about the upcoming economic collapse you should read Gail Tverberg: ourfiniteworld.com/

pol, I'm scared. I'm a spic living on his third world shitty country, and what little I've saved in this highly inflationary economy has been mostly in amazon gcs and paypal. I would appreciate some advice….

Buy gold and bullets.

Whoops, better look harder.

Another crypto skeptic™ that thinks he's in the know of how the blockchain works. You know what, it's good that poltards like you can't understand bitcoin. You stay poor and impotent.

The ONLY reason BTC is so high right now is normal people are rushing to buy it because of the wannacry attack

intel.malwaretech.com/WannaCrypt.html

It WILL drop again and it WILL drop soon

Take your moral panic elsewhere, shills.

There's no market that constantly rises without crashing, user.

the zombie meme is merely a way for bluepilled white people to process racewar / day-of-EBT-failure anxiety subconsciously. It's not some kind of metaphysical tool of the elite…

I am still surprised at some common topics, that despite anons that are read up on these things trying to help other anons, ON POL OF ALL PLACES - there are people that dont understand.
Genetics, so many misconceptions (return to mean of the race is so memed and untrue for example).
Economics - world is in major inflation right now that usury is at runaway levels unseen before in our modern history.
Gender differences and the most common psyches of women.
Environmental issues - real ones not carbon scam.
Nutrition and diet. (in general)
Physical fitness. (in general)
Guns and preparedness for persistent or temporary societal struggles (Major societal struggle is coming as the politicians salaries rising while forced immigration intaking are both unstoppable at this point).
If you look closely at the boom bust cycles, the history of boom bust cycles on World scale as well as just USA scale - we are overdue and have been overdue since 2006 for a major depression.
You can push this major econmic collapse forward by using various government keynesianism while using a mixture of social engineering and taxation to make people believe everything is fine - it could be pushed forward for a few more decades.
What is already happening and will continue happening as they delay the inevitable economic turmoil is this:
Middle class will continue getting poorer - and shrinking.
College kids will continue being fed the idea that a good degree from a good university will make them employed guaranteed - and any college or certification will do if they don't have the means to get to the top 20 national universities.
And corporations will continue using foreign labor in any way possible to provide items at prices that people can afford who work an average of 9months a year and at or close to minimum wage.

debt forgiveness will never fucking happen. Ever.

They *might* pull a Julius Caesar and chop off a chunk of your principle, but that's still asking for a lot

So why are the elites are cramming this meme down bluepilled peoples gullets all day long then?

They produce whatever brings in the sheckels. That's whatever resonates with the zeitgeist (within limits).

come on
do you still believe this nonsense?
they own central banks and international corps
they can sell the goyim whatever they want
they dont produce what makes shekels
theres many movies and series they shut down for wrongthought that had the same or better viewership than fully goyed movies and series that they support

I don't buy that hollywood is run for profit. The money they pull in on entertainment media is pennies, less than pennies, compared to the money they siphon off the flock on the debt, energy, drugs etc. rackets.

Propaganda is for shaping opinion and you can be damn sure that nothing even tasting the tiniest bit of wrongthink gets put on the bluepill box for the masses to see.

very much hivemind here

Checked. Well, it's pretty obvious.

because the media-industrial complex stand to gain from it, too, obviously. They get to exploit a fad for money and they get to stoke fear, which their delphi-method programming from on High (((suggests))) is important.

They aren't the architects of zombie-mania though (just the exploiters). Like I said above, its popularization was more-or-less a pure product of the collective unconscious of urban/suburban whites.

You guys aren't wrong about propaganda and a motive beyond mere profit. Their influence is far less direct, though.

Come on. I'm not against bitcoin, but when something doubles in value over a few months like that it's not crazy to assume it's a bubble going on.

I'm glad that people are starting to realize the sheer amount of insane danger involved in this market now. I was telling people back in ~2012 how the collapse of 2008 was basically interrupted and put on hold for a later date. This action only delayed the inevitable, but in the process, basically now comes at the cost of our entire monetary system (i.e. the viability of the dollar itself). I was laughed at, and called a conspiratard and all the other nonsense. Those same faggots aren't laughing anymore. Even blue-pilled financial advisors are ALL talking bubble. The only problem is that they don't understand the sheer breadth and scale of the danger. It isn't going to be some slight pull back or "correction" they all think it's going to be.

What we did in 2008 was akin to a cancer patient saying fuck chemo (because that would be painful, ya know?) and instead insisted on taking morphine to ease the pain and hide the symptoms. And since they 'feel better', they deluded themselves into thinking they ARE better. Well, now the opiods are wearing off and what could possibly could have been overcome with a simple, yet unpleasant round of chemo, is now stage 4 terminal and completely untreatable.

I completely pulled out of the market around the 19500 mark. I transferred all my assets into a self-directed 401k, purchasing and holding physical PMs in my possession (the only legal asset allowed to buy and hold without taking taxes and early withdrawal penalties). I've been hip to this shit since the 2010 time frame and have been preparing myself accordingly.

No one knows when this shitshow is going to occur. But make no mistake, it is GOING TO HAPPEN. There are a lot of tricks these Jews can pull out of a hat to keep the system propped up, but they are all simply the little dutch boy plugging an ever increasing amount of holes in the dam. And he'll eventually run out of fingers. Or will fuck up and something will spiral out of control.

Just be ready for fuckery. It'll happen. It's just a matter of when and how. And when it does, you are going to want to be ready. The things you can do now are absolutely TRIVIAL and will likely make the difference between you coming out alive, and being nothing more than another dead white boy that makes schlomo smile as he rapes another poor blondie who has to sell her body for goddamn 10-year old MRE scraps at the FEMA camp.

Food/Water/Shelter/Guns and Ammo/Medicine/Energy. And having an actual plan BEFORE it all happens. It has all happened before, and WILL happen again.

ZOG might produce things that bring in the shekels, however the success of which is entirely depending on what resonates with the normalfags at large

The zombie meme IS resonating in the brains of normies because they cannot stop their lizard-brain from unconsciously understanding that something is wrong and that something is coming.

People, IMO, KNOW something is wrong and that a massive culling of the herd is looming. They can't put their finger on it, and they would probably deny it if you tried explaining it to them, but their hunter/gatherer brains understand what the scent is that's being carried on the wind. Like an animal that smells smoke in the forest for the first time. It hasn't ever smelled a forest fire before, but it knows, deep down in it's DNA, that there is an unseen danger lurking and that they need to do something.

Propaganda is made to trick the mind —- but it really only works on the concious mind. You cannot trick the lizard brain. All the propaganda of the ZOG cannot convince a drowning man that air is bad and that they should avoid it. People know something is wrong and that what they are being fed from the MSM are lies.

Possibly. I do agree having the plebs scared out of their minds is priority one. When I watched some of that "walking dead" show I always got the feeling that it was about a communist multicultural collective going around killing outsiders. But I can't keep up with the occult angle of the modern bullshit anymore. I'm getting old. These days I just sit in the woods and watch the birds.

In a forum full of post-apocalyptic civil war survivalists you are praising the value of pseudo currency that exists as numbers on a usb stick. Good luck trading that for food and ammo.

Can you explain a little more?
So long as I have a few years to organize I agree.
I think that disconnect is there on a variety of topics.

Economic collapse doesn't = SHTF. Only thing that can cause massive SHTF scenario is grid down, which the economy won't effect.
unless white people decide to riot

As soon as the supply chain is disrupted be it through direct cost or through transience due to wages not being payed etc most western countries are fucked. When the trucks stop rolling, the container ships stop landing, how many days worth of food do you think the country has on hand?

There would be people (the ones with nothing but a bag of cornflour and bag of salt in teh pantry) that will be starving within the week, deaths would not be far behind and depending on the demographic you are looking at (elderly etc would start kicking off first) possibly even before. Read any account from someone who has been through a SHTF situation and no matter the cause, the outcome is always the same.

Self Directed 401k. Gold IRA. Etc. Jewgle has a plethora of info that I wouldn't even come close to explaining properly.

Some info to get you started
apmex.com/ira-benefits-gold-ira-silver-ira

Keep in mind that the only thing you should be considering is PHYSICAL possession. Not ETFs. Not Gold "stock". Not some bullshit certificate sitting in a third-party fidicuary repository 4-fucking-thousand miles away. You want it physically in your possession. If you don't hold it — you DONT OWN IT. They will shut the banks and you'll be shit out of luck trying to get your assets that you hedged with.

You are correct that grid down would most certainly become a true nightmare scenario. However, I would argue that Economic Collapse would initiate a resources crunch that would split this nation apart all the same. Since I'm a burger I can only comment on the USA firsthand, but this country is a fucking powder keg and if LE stops showing up to work, or are completely and utterly overwhelmed, the large scale effects are essentially very similar to the point that they won't matter that much. From what I've heard, Europe is the same — maybe even worse due to their lack of self-defense resources and, ahem, "multicultural" problems. That place would basically turn into a Balkanized conflict overnight, with the odds really not being in the favor of the natives.

Remember, economic collapse = complete destruction of electronic money system. No visa, mastercard, or debit cards that run off those systems. Yes, even your debit card runs off a credit system. If that locks up (and it was within hours of locking up in 2008), then it's game over. The only way to pay would be with cash, in person.

If you want an idea of how seemingly innocuous things can cascade into areas you really don't imagine, here's a nice article on what would happen should the GPS system fail.

theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/06/what-happens-if-gps-fails/486824/

Now do a thought experiment and imagine what would happen if there was no way to buy or sell anything. The big thing to remember is to account for how PEOPLE would react, and to extrapolate from that.

There are various flavors of SHTF that, when you get down to it, all boil down to the same thing — the sudden introduction of massive resource scarcity and the ensuing violence that occurs when that Malthusian limit is reached and people begin to compete.

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Silver my friend, if you cannot get gold.

If you live in Mexico silver should be easy to come by, I remember reading somewhere that Mexico had large deposits of silver.

Neither one of those things. Not even a little

come on now everyone has to have had a little too much to drink one night where the rod of athos turns out more like a door snake

Are you 40?

not quite but i'm on the way

August 2017

probably should point out I was in my early 20's when this happened.

I don't know man my boners are strong always, even when I have drunk insane amounts. 26

what's your secret?

super male vitality and special activated iodine almonds from the filter man

Not being fat, daily multivitamin and fish oils

It's to normalize cannibalism and brain harvesting, yet another step on the ladder of degeneracy.
Can't make walnut sauce without that special ingredient.

Yeah didn't we all already know this? Ron Paul talks about it all the time.

All guys like us can do is buy gold and try to pay off our debts, we're all going to be pretty fucked when the bubble pops. I'd expect food shortages for the poor, as in people all through USA and Europe begging for food, and a severe standard of living adjustment for everyone else.

I'd recommend reading The Road to Ruin by Jim Rickards, it's the book that clued me on to this. In the mean time it's just so out of our control, it might as well just be a hurricane coming.

The bubble has been on the verge of bursting again since 2009, it never does though. The fed has made it clear everyone on wall street will get bailed out no matter what so the shenanigans continue even more unabated.

You can't keep increasing credit faster than you increase income forever

That's basically all you have to know to see the collapse coming. If you increase the amount you owe on your credit card faster than you increase your income you will eventually fail to even pay the interest.

Private debt and public debt are increasing faster than wages and GDP (which correlates with government revenue). A bailout is just turning private debt into public debt, either way the default will happen eventually if incomes/productivity don't rise at the same or faster pace as credit creation.

Sounds good and healthy. The normie is scared. So scared they don't actually always realize it. We sometimes call this "anxiety", but in reality it just disconnectedness to mother earth and the mental insanity that follows.

If the elites don't wanna stop their egos or the >lesser peoples< can't make them reconsider enjoying the simple life - or wipe them out - mother nature sure as heck will try to.

Bump

You can't do either. The simple life will always end up ruined by the ZOG and nature is just as evil as the rest of everything else.

We exist in a Place of Punishment.

yeah - no
there are a lot of cryptos

Because Zombies XD! is a more kosher meme than normies understanding the actual consequences of racewar/USD collapse/WW3 etc. even normies understand on a subconscious level the kind of shit they are in so co-opting that to a retarded zombie meme prevents actual preparedness. People will legitimately prepare for SHTF, not for zombies.

I hope not. My ETFs did well today.

Being this retarded. BTC rise has just about nothing to do with WannaCry, look again. I'm heavily invested making shed loads of money playing this rally in alts, I'm hedging into goldmoney.com (you can buy physical with BTC) and looking for the sell-off. You literally have the weakest argument going for why it will drop, but please stay out of the market - I'll take your money when you wake up.

Fuck off.

if shit hits the fan im heading to western kentucky and gonna start subsistence farming somewhere way off the grid. breadbasket of america is gonna be just fine. perfect for growing food. ya dont need money out there if ya got land and a work ethic

Haven't the bailouts made back their money to the gov't paid and even gotten profit off it now from the interest?

No, that is why society is fucked RIGHT NOW. After a crash, aside from the most beta-cucked numales still suffering from this delusion, most people will revert back towards more basic instincts. There will not be "women floating to the top again". Most women will be scared as fuck and looking for men to protect and take care of them. The only reason why you see so many "alpha women" today is because our overly comfy society provides them with everything they need to survive without men. Take away the safety nets and suddenly they need men around to build and fix things again.

Also of all things you could post as an example of "women floating to the top" you had to choose a cam-whore? That is the definition of reliance on men, as well as decent internet. Guarantee you 90% of these women would choose settling with 1 competent man to take care of them then becoming literal whores which isn't as simple or safe as sitting infront of a computer by yourself showing tits if the net were to go down.

We won't get a Hitler without having a Weimar Republic first, and we won't get Weimar without having a major economic collapse.
So in one sence, we're all kind of rooting for the collapse as that's when we'll shine, right?

Problem is that while our movement is growing really well, it is still tiny, it's all mainly intillectuals at the moment with a tiny chad-nationalist element.

What we've got is still embryonic and we need more people, resources and time in this current non-shtf paradigm for those networks and RWDSs to be nucleated so we've got the ability to enact our will when the time comes rather than only having a computer full of now-useless anime reaction pics.

If the collapse can be put off for a couple of years, that'd be great.

try cashing them in, instalulz

Arguably, we're in the middle of Weimar right now. Rampant degeneracy, far exceeding that of even Weimar. High level pedo faggots continuing unhindered. Antifa commies running around. Hyperbubbles within hyperbubbles waiting to explode. Money being printed at a rate only possible with mouse clicks. Jews controlling all the forms of entertainment and media.

All the stars are aligning. We're in the middle of it. Our system of 'just in time' delivery and e-commerce makes us more fragile than ever. One small spark and it'll cause a cascade that'll ripple across the landscape. The Jews think they'll be able to control it.

The fact that they are building bunkers in New Zealand proves that they have serious doubts.

That was the Autobahn net.

US should build road and rail to the Bering strait. That will get the economy flowing.

The only thing worse than a windows user… a fucking snowflake that spends time customizing all the dumb shit in windows.

There was a recession shortly before the 1929 depression that was potentially much worse, but corrected quickly because it was allowed to. If anything like the Great depression happens again it will be intentional.

It's not fiat because it costs something to produce (lots of power and specialized computer hardware in the case of BTC). Fiat is produced by fiat. There's nothing stopping the right people from conjuring as much as they want whenever they want to, in secret. With BTC, the process of "making money" is decentralized, transparent, limited, and supposedly fair.

Still, I don't own any and I don't care to.

I think it has something to do with the CCP restricting capital outflows from China. It's much easier to move BTC out of China than any other currency.

half of them are scams
when people will realize this, they'll start selling in panic even he good ones since they can't tell them apart

BREAKING NEWS

Julian Assange Amerigeddon Financial collapse might be on June 21, 2017

You linked a video that has nothing to do with money. it dates back to before Trump got elected.

Are you dain bramaged, or are you trying to annoy me?

While many "conventional" indicators of US economic vibrancy and strength have lost their informational and predictive value over the past decade (GDP fluctuates erratically especially in Q1, employment is the lowest this century yet real wage growth is non-existent, inflation remains under the Fed's target despite its $4.5 trillion balance sheet and so on), one indicator has remained a stubbornly fail-safe marker of economic contraction: since the 1960, every time Commercial & Industrial loan balances have declined (or simply stopped growing), whether due to tighter loan supply or declining demand, a recession was already either in progress or would start soon.
This can be seen on both the linked chart, and the one zoomed in below, which shows the uncanny correlation between loan growth and economic recession.

And while we have repeatedly documented the sharp decline in US Commercial and Industrial loan growth over the past few months (most recently in "We Now Know "Who Hit The Brakes" As Loan Creation Crashes To Six Year Low") as US loans have failed to post any material increase in over 30 consecutive weeks, suddenly the US finds itself on the verge of an ominous inflection point.
After growing at a 7% Y/Y pace at the start of the year, which declined to 3% at the end of March and 2.6% at the end of April, the latest bank loan update from the Fed showed that the annual rate of increase in C&A loans is now down to just 1.6%, - the lowest since 2011 - after slowing to 2.3% and 1.8% in the previous two weeks.

Should the current rate of loan growth deceleration persist - and there is nothing to suggest otherwise - the US will post its first negative loan growth, or rather loan contraction since the financial crisis, in roughly 4 to 6 weeks.
An interesting point on loan dynamics here from Wolf Richter, who recently wrote that a while after the 1990/1991 recession was over, the NBER determined that the recession began in July 1990, eight month after C&I loans began to stall. "As such, the current seven-month stall is a big red flag. These stalling C&I loans don’t fit at all into the rosy credit scenario. Something is seriously wrong."
However, it wasn't until loan growth actually contracted, that the 1990 recession was validated. Well, the US economy is almost there again. And this time it's not just C&I loan growth, or lack thereof, there is troubling.
As the chart below shows, after peaking in late 2016, real-estate loan growth has also decelerated by nearly half, to 4.6%.

More troubling still, after flatlining at nearly double digit growth for much of 2016, starting last September there has been a sharp slowdown in commercial auto loans, whose growth is now down to just a third, or 3%, of what it was a year ago.

While it remains to be seen if C&I loans have preserved their uncanny "recession predictiveness" for yet another turn of the business cycle, the charts above confirm that the US economy is rapidly slowing, and validating the poor Q1 GDP print. Furthermore, one thing is clear: absent a substantial rebound in loan growth, whether for commercial, residential or auto loans, there is no reason to expect an imminent uptick in the US economy. We only note this, because next week the Fed plans to hike rates again. If it does so just as US loan growth contracts, it may be doing so smack in the middle of a recession.

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Authored by Chris Martenson via PeakProsperity.com,
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Most people take their cues from the price level of the stock market. Once upon a time, equities were a useful barometer. But that was before the central banks began intervening heavily in them, starting under Alan Greenspan. He was responsible for the first big bubble on the earlier chart above.
…in early June of 2017, the Big 5 central banks have poured a whopping $1.5 trillion dollars(!) of newly created, thin-air money into the markets since the beginning of the year.
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The above dismal rate of growth perfectly explains the growing gap between household net worth and GDP. If you boost financial assets ever higher using central bank stimulus, but the economy remains stagnant, you get a gap.
Global economic growth is weak, has been weak, and will continue to be weak for many reasons. Not least of which is the massive overhanging piles of accumulated debt across the global economy, which are very growth unfriendly.
As Professor Steve Keen has shown, if your debt grows at 10%, and this enables your economy to grow at 5%, anything less than a more rapid rate of credit growth in the future will cause your economy to contract.
Said another way, as long as you can grow your debts at a faster pace than your income – forever – you'll never have to experience another economic downturn.
That statement right there, lays bare the entire ridiculousness of everything the central banks have, … there's a better than 50% chance of a global recession occurring in the next year – and nearly a 75% chance of one in the US.
We then detail out how the coming predicted massive market correction may well rip the financial markets apart in a way that could take generations to repair in any meaningful sense.

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Feminists are nymphos user. Daddy issues causes both.

Fed, ECB and BoJ have printed $10 trillion since 2006

Since 2006, global debt has grown exponentially and is now around $250 trillion. This is all driven by the main central banks in their attempt to prevent the financial system from collapsing. The three major central banks’ balance sheets have all expanded rapidly during the same period. They have all taken turns in the race to become the most profligate money printer. For a few years the Fed was in the lead but since 2015, the BoJ and ECB have caught up quickly. All three have now printed around $4.5 trillion each, having grown from below $1 trillion at the beginning of this century. The seesawing is likely to continue and sometime during the next 12-18 months, the Fed will start accelerating the US money printing again by adding many trillion dollars or even tens of trillions to their balance sheet.

By manipulating markets and creating infinite liquidity, central banks are not just temporarily putting off the demise of the financial system. They are also creating a false prosperity by fuelling global stock market rises to new highs. No one should be under the illusion that all is well on Stock Street and that the new highs we are seeing in many markets around the world is based on real growth. This rise is primarily liquidity driven, leading to over valuations and p/e ratios not seen since the 2000 stock market bubble.
The graph below shows the perfect correlation between money printing and stocks. In March 2009, the combined balance sheet of the Fed, BoJ and ECB was $5.8 trillion whilst the S&P index was at 700. Since then, the three central banks’ balance sheets are up 2.3 times to $13.6 trillion and the S&P is up 3.5 times to 2,400. So this is where the world is today. For stock prices to grow, money must be printed, for GDP to grow by one dollar, credit must be expanded by several dollars. At the same time, billions of paper gold must be created and sold to keep the gold price down. Because a high and true price of gold would be a sign of economic mismanagement and must therefore be prevented at any cost. Thus, we are really living a lie.

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I just want suggest consuming raw ginger to any anons who want an extra boost. I've been adding it to my breakfast lately and its pushed my erections over the line from stout to pulsating.

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Jim Rogers says the crash is coming this year or next year.

Marijuana and alcohol generally become more valuable in a crash.

Obama you fucking coon. All I can say is that I'm angry.

Checking those dubs, and speaking of Caesar, this is what they want, to kill Trump and bring down the republic.

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someone tipped a camwhore a lot of money

mail-user!? did you get the job?

The cryptos never reply to the best posts

Actually, the New Testament doesn't say "meek," it says "praos," which means "tame" or "disciplined," like a guard dog or a warhorse.

"Praos" implies "capable of violence."

has this thread hit a reply limit? Or can I bump?

Many people expect a crash, youtube related.

Trump = TR

The US is 60% white at best. You dont transition into empire with those demographics you die

China is usually the elephant in the room on things like this. Chinese herding behavior means it will probably keep going until they get a truly massive crash. A billion peasants playing wall street tycoon are going to fuck it up eventually.

Bleach can be used as a disinfectant and water purifier and you can make it from salt, water and a 12V DC source.

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saved. Thank you.

AMERIKA IMPERIVM

trips for economic crash with isis, israel and saudi arabia attacking iran

the fuck is this shilling

lol wut

Either they religuish some debt slavery, e.g (hey goys, check out that light at the end of the tunnel, there's tottally a way out i really promise this time).

They did the same here in Europe with Greece, they sold greece into debt through IMF/Worldbank, then forced them to privatize most of their infrastructure services and insurances then forced the greeks to sell it to the EU puppet friends. Then EU forgave more debt since Greece was talking about GEXIT, EU forced that government out. Then put in a new phony politicians and signed up for more debt, wich they will wipe off some of it in the next few years as a new bailout is looming again.

You got to have that carrot on a stick dangling in front of the sucker or he will simply lie down and stop paying into the debt base system.

KEK! Grade A shitposting!

If your thristy, drink this shitflavoured ass water xD

odd
you only have to add boling water to the salt and cornflour and you can eat it
beaners do it every day
but you're right, plebs would still starve because they dont know how to make food anymore

Or cryptocurrency, which fulfills the same general purpose as precious metals (ie, can't be reproduced and fucked with by the federal reserve).
Also, (((they))) are purposefully suppressing the precious metals market through paper gold/silver. Everyone is buy the fake paper, thinking it can be exchanged, and is no different than the real thing. In reality, it's being fractionally lent, so that the supply of this paper far exceeds the amount of real gold. When people try to exchange their paper for the real thing, they're going to be in for a rude awakening. When the paper gold market falls apart, physical gold is going to moon.

I recommend both metals and crypto.

Ripple is a scam. It's backed by the banks, and it's a way to attempt to divert people away from REAL cryptos toward their controlled opposition currency that can still be fucked with through the backdoors.

Also don't trust that other crypto called Zcash, I believe. It's literally designed and put out by Mossad.

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, user

What reason do you have to believe this?

not shilling , not trying to sell you anything.

nowhere does it say the water needs to be pure, more pure is better, but not essential. Rain water is pretty clean outside of large urban centers. If you are in a large urban center you're probably fucked anyway in a real happening, pure water or rain water.
I been drinking boiled rain water for years and i have never been healthier.

Apple is recovering today. I bought on the turn, made up for my lost gains already.

They never get the gold. Investors are often forced to take cash recompense. It's more Jewish tricks. Fake paper for more fake paper, which you can't even go buy an oz of gold with because you sell for spot price…..and any store sells spot+premium.

Good luck user.

Petrodollar crash inbound.

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Pretty good timeline tbh m8. Can't wait until we can cut out the (((middle man))) for all transactions and banks become obsolete.

REMINDER THAT THE (((FED))) IS PLANNING ON RAISING RATES TODAY

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