ISP's ARE FUCKING US OVER

Wireless is a lot easier to spy on. Now you just have to be in range of the signal to take a peek. You don't have to have physical access, because you are broadcasting your data over a wide area.

Going fully wireless will be a government spy's wet dream. They can just sit in a van outside and watch your entire internet activity. No need for a secret room at AT&T, no need to splice cables, no need for software backdoors. Just drive in range of who you want to spy on and you're there.

There is a lot of kikery and lobbying going on but one thing to keep in mind is that many places who have "faster internet" than the US had it installed recently and so are using newer, faster technology. The level 3 backbone in the US was completed what?
20-25 years ago? New racks and fiber lines don't cost peanuts and those who installed them in the first place aren't keen on replacing everything unless there was competition forcing them to do so. Further more it takes a lot more cable and distribution equipment (copper or fiber) to connect the sparsely populated and spread out US than it takes to connect say 20 million koreans in Seoul. Just like they like to do with school scores for some (((reason))) tier one cities of Asia are compared with an average of ALL of the US cities and rural areas. How about comparing internet speeds in NYC to Shanghai or Seoul? What is the internet access like in rural Korea? What is the internet access like in rural China?

Internet speeds in rural Korea are the fastest in the world.

Why do you single out China like this? Everybody who's travelled there knows their infrastructure is, in general, much better than in the US.

I think one of the reasons they keep the Internet slow is because it really obliterates the copyright industry for good. Especially with things like IPFS (Interplanetary File System – uncensorable/permanent storage in the cloud), the kikes are basically desperate for us to not realize that our computers are basically connected to an infinite, uncensorable disk in the cloud that potentially contains every single movie, TV show, and song in existence.

Cable companies will upsell you on throttled shitty Internet connections, while simultaneously selling your digital cable content through the same line at unbridled speeds.

Citation needed. Everything I've found averages the major urban areas with rural areas. It's clear they have fast internet in Seoul, Incheon, Busan etc. but the rural areas? Pic related is from a 2015 white paper on Korean internet.
books.google.com/books?id=1ZR6BgAAQBAJ&pg=PA89&lpg=PA89&dq=rural+korea+internet&source=bl&ots=yGAumTOZf8&sig=7Sm5of4fSDemrzMRGE3335vamak&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi80NCQi_XTAhVV52MKHbclCmw4ChDoAQg6MAQ#v=onepage&q=rural%20korea%20internet&f=false
I've lived in Korea and China for several years and both were college campus tier speeds in major cities (china could be slow depending on great wall filtering). Rural areas, not so much. I don't think a lot of people realize how 3rd world tier even south korea is in rural areas.
Anecdotally the internet that seemed the fastest out of all the countries I've been to recently is Tokyo, almost everything is instantaneous compared to the US or even the rest of Asia. The connections I had in korea were fast but not to english language sites, at least not nearly as fast as accessing american/euro websites from Tokyo.

It really is. I was there a few years ago and I was stunned. Especially shanghai. I remember looking out my hotel window at these Massive skyscrapers, like walls made of emerald and sapphire, like a vision of heaven itself, a glorious edifice, glistening in the morning sun, beneath them snaked a highway on ramp, itself a massive construction, like a great rebar and concrete serpent, on the side of the road a small man with his pants down, pissed on the highway, and behind him rose a vast expanse of corrugated aluminum shacks forming the largest slum I've ever seen. It was that moment that I came to understand the nature of communism. All the luxuries one could ever want, willingly paid for by the endless suffering of the masses. It was then I swore to stand against the spread of communism in America, and that crusade eventually lead me to Holla Forums.

In short, I endorse foreign travel because it narrows the mind wonderfully.

Source?
csengineermag.com/article/clearing-the-confusion-on-plain-concrete/

I cant find anything prohibiting it and plenty of links make references to using rebar reinforced concrete for residential buildings, not to mention i have seen several IRL

Why the fuck isn't anybody checking these dubs? Like, just look at them! And the point made – Kek has set His hand on this user.

WEW LAD.

Haven't you heard? They got bought by Charter. Now they've chosen the most unfortunate name in the age of weaponized autism: Spectrum. Even fewer choices for us, just what the customers need!

Go live near one of those radio telescopes and tell me if you feel any different. There's whole populations of people who swear they're "allergic" to cell towers and wifi.

You can cherry pick cities in CHYNA that have good internet but the vast majority of the smaller towns and villages have nothing for fixed line. Heck most are street shitter tier with it comes to basic infrastructure.

People compare LTE coverage plans are missing the fact that people in CHYNA make a fraction of what most people in the USA make. So no shit cellphone plans, and everything else is going to retail for less.

And how can one say the internet is better in CHYNA what their whole fucking internet is firewalled and censored?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Firewall

Wouldn't it cost a fortune to bring our standards up to SK's level? Who the fuck in their right mind would pay for all that and then not want some kind of insane profit out of it?

There's no way in hell China has good internet, like all over. I'm not educated on the subject but common sense tells me certain pockets are really good, just like the US. The rural areas are fucked, just like the US.

welcome to Brazil. it has been like this here since the start.

Its nothing like the US.
There are certain areas that don't even have access to 24hr electricity.

The USA at least had the Rural Electrification Act so 100% has access to power rich or poor. And the regulated bell system so 100% of the USA was wired for basic telephone.

Gigabit internet is the last thing rural peasant farmers are worried about china.

good point, i'd wager just having a pot to piss in would be a luxury

A fascist. A nationalist. A patriot. Literally anyone who isn't a kike. But kikes control all the telecoms.

It works the other way too. Once you get gud you can spoof the shit out of things over wireless and become unseen. yea, its illegal to do it certain ways that are secure from the feds, but if you are doing that, you are likely doing things that need to be hidden anyway cause you don't go to nigger home for adult children when caught.

Also, feds are lazy. They like being able to not have to go sit in a fucking van somewhere. Actual detective work is non existent anymore for all practical purposes. Have you seen their back door programs? Fucking script kiddy tier shit, yet so simple and easy any idiot out of their training school can do it. Lovely little things included in those releases beyond the shit we talked about here, like how exactly shit becomes invisible to the systems themselves.

What trump should do is push the government to build a 10 gigabit internet connection to every house hold including the most secluded.

Then allow any ISP including startups to utilize it at no cost.

The regional monopolies would be crushed as well as legacy media.

Same shit happening in Europe.

Democracy is rule of dumb. Nobody has intellectual skills what policies regarding IT mean, and nobody really cares. Trivial identity politics circus, gay rights and other stuff gets an emphasis and important policy points get neglected. Because those important points are where big coorporations make bank out of the citizens they abuse.

Trump is gonna make it worse by killing net neutrality.

Prove me wrong that it WONT get worse when net neutrality is gone.

We need more budda eunuchs so trump has a really easy game. Du drecksschwuchtel.

And more betas that get subverted by antifa and other organisations because your shit personality really makes it easy. Bye you fucking cunt, nice knowing you. But you should write more critisism about the cult of personality and why we do not need anything, because afterall the highest ideal is to have a free internet and nothing else.

Once upon a time they fucked up video games. You Holla Forums faggots decided that Holla Forums was actually right and took your play to win mentality into the big leagues and fucked this system up the ass in epic fashion. Hillary was assblasted to hell and back by you glorious bastards and forced Holla Forums to finally become good rather than sitting around pointing out the truth and waiting for the big 'happening' that wipes it all away.

Now they are looking to ruin the net itself because reasons…. giving all these autistic faggots whom have been getting focused on /fit/ and becoming more nazi than the fucking german national socialists ever were a big damned reason to stop trolling Holla Forums and stepping outside. fucking brilliant move if you want us to gas the kikes for real.

OK, so get a nonprofit ISP, dumbass. You get to pay less annually, have your data not throttled at all, and write off your "donation" on your taxes. Plus you'd be better off giving your data to a nonprofit than a corporation.f

What if we used the Internet…
to fix…
Democracy?

If every district and election had an anonymous forum like this one where people shot the shit all day and were encouraged to watch CSPAN and communicate with their representatives on every issue, the outcomes would be dramatically improved.

There is no such thing as net neutrality now. Just because Obama said there was doesn't make it true.

The regulated Bell system set back the telephone for decades.

AT&T had massive amounts of competition that was frantically wiring up the country before WW1 and would have just ended up as a footnote in history.

The one thing on their side, however, was political connections. When the war started and Washington nationalized the economy, they used their connections and the newly-invented hoax known as "natural monolopy" to force their competition into the Bell system.

You probably aren't old enough to remember how unbelivably shitty telephone service was before the breakup in the 1980s.

Bullshit. 90% of the country can't even afford food.

Anyway it IS happening here in the US, just slowly, but competition and invitation are pushing the big Coms to offer faster speeds at cheaper prices. Its just there is a lot of Government Corruption that creates roadblocks for this stuff.

Anyway, what you absolutely don't want is letting the Government declare the Internet a "Public Utility" which would be sold on the premise that they'll "force" the Telecoms to offer faster speeds. "Every American has the right to a 10mbs DL!" and that $15/hr Bernie fags would eat up, but we all know how this shit turns out.

This guy gets it. +1

Fucking bullshit. I don't like them insectoids either, but let's not ressort to cheap lies.

Kek'd and checked.

Because the West bought into some Jewish bullshit lie that private citizens under the guise of "capitalism" and "individualism" are more important than the integrity of a society by its defining amenities. You get a society where kikes look to actually fuck over actual growth and grandeur of societies with legislation in their favor, that helps them sit on their money, not lose their money, and most-insidiously, have control of printing the money and giving it to their fuck-up buddies who don't actually create anything.

Fast internet in America would mean every no-talent kike on TV out of the job, because nobody actually wants to pay those losers for their bullshit, in conjunction with the fact that the majority of Americans are broke and becoming more broke by the day, with no little thanks to these fucking kikes who've gutted our economy.

Good goyim!

The Internet is the CAUSE of this horrible era. what allowed the fake black friday crash in 1987
COMPUTERS!

What cause the bank crash of '08 computer trading!

Where are the jobs going to,robots of course constantly connected and enabled by the internet!

We could have given the world clean water with the money we wasted on the internet.

instead we have no jobs and pepe pictures get real.

EXPECT to be constantly fucked over by people that have power over you.that is the redpill.

of course we know who they tend to be.

western shits btfo
eastern europe best europe, internet for half a year costs me 30$ at 6-10mb/s download speed

I assume you mean MB/s because 6-10Mb/s would be garbage and 6-10 mb/s is slower than just mailing the data to you.

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Learn how numbers work, dipshit.

FPBP

Wew lad

the problem with full wireless is that
… to do that, they have to mobilize a van and go there to snoop on somedude, after they have determined that somedude is someone worthy of being spied upon, and having convinced their bosses that the investment in hardware and tech-hours will be worth it
whereas if there simply is
then all the AT&T signal can be snooped on, 100% of the web users can have their traffic stored and parsed later at leisure, for a cost of some routers and storage space
and government contractors will get much more bacon for the buying a shiny hardware collection than for a hired technician deployment in a van with a puter and some antennas

and if some bad goy begins to do shennanigans on his wireless, like using hidden channels, or weird cryptography, or undocumented frequency switching, stuff like that, the sweaty spies in their van down the road won't spy shit

Han my son.

Poor babies…

I said it before, but if Trump wanted to win big with millennials he would have promised a national fiber network infrastructure project, and busting up the telecom monopolies while preventing localities from instituting monopolies.

My options are Verizon (with monthly data cap of 16gb on LTE before throttling down to 3g) or dialup. Our internet is as bad as yours in most rural places.

Don't forget all network and cable television studios too. Cheap high speed internet available across the entire nation would put all the major networks out of business too.

But that shit brings real kikes into the picture and demands real, measurable, results. The race project is much safer and they were building it up years before the election. It takes only a few news articles from their disinfo program they're funding anyway.

keep fighting the good fight
censorship is death

if all you will do is whats safe, you arent even trying

It's the one thing I'm angry at Trump for supporting.

Physical copies + distributed versions on stable servers or bust

As someone who lives there, I can assure that Chinese internet is not "faster". They choke all websites that aren't in some way CCP owned or run. 8ch is horribly slow. Video and VoIP services are deliberately choked always, but if you're making an out-of-country call you get around 2-3 minutes before your call "dies" due to a "poor connection".

The CCP never compares apples to apples. On average, they're definitely worse. The majority of their population does not yet live in the tier 1 cities. In those cities, such as Shanghai and Beijing, internet speeds are comparable. I've heard Shenzhen is faster, which makes sense because it's the most modern of all of the major cities as well as being rich and the headquarters of all of the SOE tech giants. I've heard Guangzhou is pretty shit. Anything in the west is a joke. Xi'an is definitely way, way worse than Denver which is a fair comparison.

Most of the population lives at the tier 2 -> below level. Many people don't have in-home wifi. In those cities, you might have wifi, but it wouldn't compare to an American suburb. The rural areas don't stand a chance, many still don't have proper plumbing. If you're a rural American, I understand that you'll get reamed, but you can still get a connection. One third of the population of one billion plus people lives in those areas.

Cellphone coverage and speed is pretty great though. I imagine the infrastructure is cheaper to maintain. The CCP is always good at burning money to build something, but they never pay to maintain it. Not that the US is any better in that respect, but at least the major providers are semi-private entities with a profit motive. China Unicom was recently caught fabricating their profits on a massive scale, indicating that the entire company is essentially a government welfare project on top of being a thoroughly corrupt SOE.

China is very, very good at lying with numbers. Skepticism should always be your first reaction.

Also, if a chink shill is shilling here, the odds are 2:1 they are wealthy and educated enough to live in a tier 1 city. English is a luxury good here. So much so that people will show it off to other like a fucking Fendi bag.

Either that, or they're some poor tricked English teacher in the throes of a nigh terminal yellow fever infection. I've seen some pretty deluded quislings in my day.

40k was right again.

You're right, and this is why kike businesses stall out.

You have to spend money to make money.

If all you do is offer a substandard product and hoard the profits, you stagnate until a competitor comes along. Controlling the market via government regulation and oligopoly just raises prices unnecessarily.

Even on the macro scale, this still holds true. Congress and every major executive/CEO have given themselves pay raises in the last decade while their workers have gotten less and less. If they gave more people more money, those people would have more money to spend on things after rent, bills, and food, which in turn allows more money to be invested in the business and back into the workers.

Why aren't people mad yet? These Congressional seats and executive positions are not your toys, they are your jobs. If you don't shape up, we will take your toys AND your jobs away.

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What timing Jim started advertising TOR project shortly after this. These coincidences are truly baffling.

But hey anything run by politically opinionated jews must be safe to use for every natsoc user.

I'm not one for communism, but you can really get a very similar outcome with capitalism.
In the end it's not about picking a label. It's about picking the principles that actually get applied in the day to day of running a country.

They're not monopolies just to fuck with you. There is actually limited physical space to run lines, whether they be power, cable, fiber or phone. Area I live has two main providers, one cable one phone, and there literally isn't space on the telephone poles to add the mainline infrastructure for a third provider. Even if there were, the cost is wiring up a whole city from scratch is exorbitant like you don't even know, especially if you plan to do it all with fiber.

I don't even blame the ISPs. If the government had a backbone it would nationalize a nationwide fiberoptic communications network and/or regulate it like a utility. If it were just cable TV like it used to be, sure, let it remain private, but the internet revolution has changed the entire world in a very short period of time. I'm only 33 and I lived in a time when people were super surprised that it was possible to buy and sell things on a computer. People were still seriously discussing whether the internet had useful purpose or whether it was just a gimmick when I was a kid. Regulation is of course going to take some time to catch up, but at this point I can't imagine a world in which the internet isn't considered a necessary utility for every single person, just like electricity.

And what's funny is that he wanted to remove tor when people and shills actually used it.

Underrated post.

In recent months, my ISP has become a total fucking hard-on. From7pm-1130pm, you basically have nothing. I haven't even tried torrenting in a while because it's such a fucking pain in the ass (the positive end of that is that TV sucks worse than it ever has before).

The Governments enforces these monopolies. There's no capitalism allowed with this shit at all.

Those are the least of your worries. ISP's are far worse than just being kikes. We need to start our own decentralized internet if we're going to escape the mass surveillance.

Actually I'm kind of interested in seeing how far it will develop, but I know once it does it will be near impossible to dismantle. Still, we have a chance right now before AI gets too strong.

t. some kike on TV

I biked through a lot of the rural areas you're talking about to the South of Korea, and I can confirm.
However, they'd be better off if the whole country was that way.
The people were very nice in the rural areas, coming out of their homes in the evening to offer watermelons to us.
Modern urban Korea is a superficial, hedonistic, materialist society where the children have rejected their responsibility to their parents. Korea has the highest suicide rate in the world due to the elderly killing themselves.
CRUSH THE URBANITE!

Net neutrality has absolutely nothing to do with this. Net neutrality is intended to prevent ISPs from throttling or favoring specific services, not to require or encourage them to offer higher overall speeds.

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You can get the online. Great for cops. Jams their radios so they can't run your plates.

"And they shall bear the mark of the beast on their right hand or their forehead."

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

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Th-this is it Holla Forums, this is the final pill to end all pills before the apocalypse! Repent! REPENT! IT'S ALL OGRE!

"During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them."

PANIC

I have a gamer's mark on my right hand and a pseudo-bidi looking rash on my forehand…

What you do is build a 10 gigabit internet connection to every household including those way out in the Alaskan Bush, and allow any ISP including startups to utilize it at no cost.

You would bust those regional monopolies when college students could start an ISP up without needed to invest a fortune in infrastructure.

Back when Dial up was huge there were so many ISPs since the infrastructure cost so little.

What you do is start building this infrastructure out in the sticks because you don't have to get so many permits, and rip up roads & sidewalks to entrench fiber optic lines. You would need a few thousand men for a single small town to get it's infrastructure installed in a week instead of years.
Think of all of those jobs created.

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No, it's not the mouse, but it happens because of extended use of it.

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JEWS PUT A GOVENER ON THE INTERNET
YOU WANT TO STREAM YOUR CUCK PORN GOY THAT WILL BE 20 SHECKELS EXTRA BUT IF YOU BUNDLE PHONE AND TELEPHONE SERVICE WE WILL KNOCK THAT DOWN A SMIDGEON

Uncle Ted was a very handsome lad when he was younger, who knew!

No.

Only idiots have it.

Are you calling me an idiot? You dolt.

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And it will be how long until someone gets pissed off and ballsy enough to break their way into an ISP department and crank the dial on what speeds people have?

I'm sitting in front of a computer 10+ hrs a day for years and I never had that tbh.

It depends on your grip of the mouse and how much you move the thing around, If you don't move the mouse too much it's not going to appear.