Hitler's art and what his contemporaries made

Hello. I've been trying to research Hitler's art and while I think it's fairly decent; I've been struggling to compare his artwork to what his contemporaries would've made in 1907-1909 in the Vienna art school that he was rejected from.

Is there a way that I could see the work that was made in that school or a list of the graduates from the Vienna school? I have to confess that I am curious to see what the standards were for the time and whether or not Hitler was simply not good enough as an artist or whether the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts was a place of degeneracy and ugliness?

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Hello fellow goys

Shit, there IS an image that compares graduates to his art, but I don’t fucking have it. I also don’t know where to look.

You're wrong. The artistic world has judged Hitler's works and found them wanting. See pic related for attitude adjustment.

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Essentially the professor handling admissions at the Vienna art school told Hitler that he drew like an architect and since the majority of what he drew was buildings and landscape he would probably be better suited for a career as an architect.

Hitler seeing said professor as an expert went "lol k" and gave up on what had till then been his lifelong dream of being an artist (though one that he had primarily to piss off his father who wanted him to be an office worker)

How did this music turn up.
Need to catch that ferry.

They turned him away because they thought he'd do better as an architectural painter.

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Here here
inb4 subhumans actually say the others look good. Hitler wasn't da Vinci, but he sure as hell didn't paint literally like shit.

A-art thread?
Don't ban me kampfy

No wonder he developed a dislike for the jew.
He was jewed out of the art school position.

Thanks. Although I was hoping for something more substantial like names etc; this will do for now.


This is what I found confusing. How or why was this considered acceptable while Hitler's work; while perhaps not ground breaking, was rejected? I'm certain it's got something to do with the postmodernism shit that crept up during that time.

Ive just been struggling to find any artwork of that time that would be considered a contemporary.

Will have to keep looking.

Something that is often said is:

Hitler knew he had talent for buildings, he wanted to become an architect, only he could not, for the requirements were a technical school diploma, which he did not have, nor did he have the money to enroll in such a school.

This is one of the reasons that nazi germany sponsored smart children of poor parents

Even at the time and before it, people knew it was jews servicing jews.
One jew reviews a jew's art, says it is the best thing ever, more jews review it and do the same.
The public buys it.

Hitler himself talked about it.

It is the same as all media now - newspapers, television, internet - jews promoting other jews and pushing down anything decent.
Modern art is a kike invention.

Left alone, Germany would have been the future of civilisation.

The jews just couldn't stand it though, and it was all destroyed.

He also sabotaged his own education as a child. To spite his father.
As I recall was he not trying to finance an education by working as a construction worker?

Yes, he was the epitome of a loser before going to Vienna. Then as a construction worker he had his first meeting with (((Social democracy))) and (((journalists))). This is all written in the three first chapters of mein kampf

It would have been glorious. The only thing we can do now is try to make that dream come true.

Imagine being denied your life long admission, only to see people with substandard and degenerate skills being promoted.

No need to imagine it. In our modern era, it happens all the time and in every school and industry. Women, niggers, and other shitskins automatically get priority in college enrollment and job applications because of quotas. Jews experience a pseudo-quota effect too because jews always select their own (((tribe))) over others. And so the result is that there are so many opportunities that you, as a white man, should have had based on your merit, but you were cut off from.

So many of us have gotten fucked over, just like Hitler. And it's created an army of Hitlers waiting to gas the kikes.

mileswmathis.com/beat.pdf
First, take MM with a grain of kosher salt.
Also, this is 50-60s America not Germany,
But it's a good look at why postmodernism was a CIAnigger movement to debase art and beauty.

Honestly, Adolf's art was kind of pleb tier. He was a ww1 vet looking for an easy way to make a living, kind of like that badaSs military dude that opens a hookah bar downtown. Anyway, that Hitler got all butthurt about his 'art' is pretty beta indicative, but didn't we all enjoy the revenge

MM screams of psy-op, just by reading his biography, hes like the next Da Vinci that nobody has heard of. Hes the "jews didn't do 9-11 thats preposterous" kind.

Read his book retard.

He was rejected because they thought he'd be a better architect.

FUCKING READ MEIN KAMPF BEFORE COMING HERE AND BEING A RETARD.

Always remember at its heart National Socialism is an art restoration movement. Gas the kikes in the name of Truth and Beauty.

You will never attain victory if you follow Hitler and the nazi's

You must build your own movements
with your own symbols and your own
ideas and your own uniforms and your
own books.

HITLER IS A MEME THAT THE JEWS
IN POWER ARE COUNTING ON YOU TO
WORSHIP AND THUS MAKE THE SAME
MISTAKES THAT HITLER AND HIS 2 OTHER
STOOGES MADE.

Its time to wakey wakey and grow the fuck up.

t. cuckservative

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Kill yourself, tbh

Kindly remove yourself to the nearest oven.

OP, Hitler was an alright artist, but he was no master. On his paintings, frequently the form and perspective was off, and things were a tad bland. Given more time, Hitler could've improved more, but the art school simply wasn't looking for artists of Hitler's style. Some of the people that had gotten in later produced horrid stylistic paintings, but it is likely that those artists had higher technical skill before entering. I would have to see their works before entering the Vienna school.

You know almost like he needed art lessons or something…

That's exactly what Hitler did, you fucking literal autist. Victory can only be obtained by following his example.

Yes exactly why jews try to rewrite history and warp what a National socialist is and also kevetch really loudly about anything even remotely Nationalistic.

Get yourself a nosejob and try again.

My point, is that the Vienna school simply did not want him. He could have tried other art schools which likely would have taken him in, however.

He wanted Vienna because he was infatuated with the place at least before he really lived there for a while. Also I think the Vienna school was one of the best, where else could he go France?

Hitler is a meme, he transcended being a man much like Moses, Jesus and Mohammad. The farther we get from his remarkable life the more the average person will be intrigued about his motives and associate his ideas with the tremendous power and recovery of Nazi Germany. Any kike who reads a comment section should be aware that Hitler stirs again in the minds and hearts of our people. He is coming for you, juden.

It is exactly the prestige of the Vienna school that prevented him from attending. There are other art schools in Austria, but it is unfortunate he could not attend his dream school.

One building, out of many, that would have made up the new Deutsch capital of Germania.

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Miles Mathis thinks Ezra Pound was an agent ( and bad poet ) then makes tons of ridiculous logical jumps in "proving" Hitler was Jewish. He's clearly very intelligent but in a sophist kind of way. Miles Mathis strikes me as how a shill would be if they had a decent brain..

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This is a kike.

It's not just art user, they did the same thing with architecture.

They want to destroy beauty because beauty glorifies creation. They are agents on satan sent to destroy all of creation. As if that was even possible. Deluded morons.

I'm the user that made this OC

Basically I had an epiphany; "IFF Hitler had been accepted into the academy, who would he be attending class with?"

It was simple to check the date; 1907, and compare it with the "graduates"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_of_Fine_Arts_Vienna#Notable_alumni

Those artists WOULD HAVE SAT NEXT TO HITLER IF HE HAD GOTTEN IN!

This is the most important text in this thread so read it carefully.

You cant get rid of postmodernism by railing against it.

You can only get rid of it by actively supporting something greater.

Negative does nothing, only positive will grow your memes.

Anyone else remember how the liberals attacked Thomas Kinkade's art work when he died?

Not enough fecal matter for the (((experts))).

This guy is right, you must be delusional to think the world would be willing to accept the Nazism (Hitlers) ever again after the smearing Nazism has received. Something new needs to come out of the woodworks, something that doesn't have the Nazi stamp on it, of course it could be similar to NatSoc but it won't have the same symbols, the same name, the same history.

Of course people will say this hypothetical new movement is Nazism or it's similar to Nazism, but in name and history it is not. That is what matters most to the masses, the history of Hitlers NatSoc of which has been smeared, it will never be revitalized in the mainstream but that doesn't mean you can't covertly base new movements on it.

Nazis have never done anything to fuck me over. Damn near every other group has. Gee, whom should I gravitate toward?

you make a good point. Look at the trump brand of Nationalism, and how the nationalist have changed their image in Europe. I love how clean cut their clothes & image have become.

The Neo-Nazis/skin heads are a tumor.

We don't need Hitler worship in the USA to make a movement. We have the founding fathers.

Masonic tax dodgers whose belief created this entire situation. Funny.

Also
Typical trash. Back to /r/thedonald with you.

Thats pretty unpatriotic for a 1776 get. The founding fathers weren't perfect but if the nation had followed their vision we would be doing pretty damn well about now. I'm still not sure if Jefferson's idea of a nation of farmers is an amazing one though. Advantage is everyone is independent and can feed themselves. It would be possible with modern computers and machinery saving folks tons of time with other tasks, but would we aspire to something greater? Tough to say.
Washington deserves respect just for his immense self-sacrifice.

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I was talking about clowns like this.Compare groups like Jobbik and the statue protesters to them.

Jefferson was an idealist, but no one, not even his fellows at the time thought that vision was worth much in practice. Still, the man did blessed work for the nation, and he deserves a lot better than that 1776 stealing super nigger is pissing about.

What did he mean by this?

Clearly, that the founding fathers somehow influenced France and Britain to fuck over Germany and stop Hitler from saving Europe. Better not dwell too long on the minds of shills.

I'm an artist and even I have to admit Hitler wasn't that much of an artist, his choice of colour pallet and his photographic/architectural styling was very rigid and real but not artistic. Although he could have probably come to an epiphany had it continued to pursue it. He is a genius in almost everything else for sure but not art sadly. Of course many of his contemporaries who did get in are questionable as well. Heil though.

This.

What did user mean by this? – What was wrong with his pastoral scenes and draftsmanship that made them "unartistic"?

Oh, what might have been makes me sad sometimes.

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Clearly 2000 hours in mspaint kek memes are higher art than Hitler's traditional renders, right?

His paintings are so boring.

I forget what they look like as soon as I stop looking. They communicate nothing. They just display adequate technical skills but it's not much better than souvenir paintings that you can buy in south east asian countries.


At least pepe means something to you. What does that drawing give you other than momentary satisfaction at seeing something done neatly?

Roger Dean (White artist who had his ideas plagiarised for the Kike movie Avatar then even after the Kikes admitted it, his case for damages was kiked right out of court) also started his career as a draftsman.
Many of Dean's pictures feature crusader knights and traditional themes with a futuristic interpretation.

Thanks, good stuff.

I don't think the bombers were piloted by many jews, though.
Equally not so sure about filling the front line ranks.

Other people did that.

You're right. Hitler could never get anybody to believe in anything larger than themselves. Truly a failed artist.

Fuck off, very transparent lies.


Time to go to bed.

My wife is a classical artist. One of the biggest redpills for her was seeing Hitler's paintings. She cried when she saw them and said they were painted by a master. We were robbed of a great artist, because the world needed a leader more than a painter.

A lot of people seem to be suggesting that mastering something should be a prerequisite for being allowed to formally study it. I have never seen this logic employed outside of Hitler's case.

Hitler's art is filled with bad depth perception and cock suckery fanart for a pedo kike.

I remember a tv show episode with an edgy jew who was buying hitler's works only to burn them and keep the ashes in jars, does anyone remember what show that was?

further proof

Whoops

Projecting much, Moishe?

Oh, the guys who think Islam is the last hope of humanity?

I was referring to walt disney, dumbass

Walt Disney then:
Disney now:
Nah son

Sounds like someone's projecting

sure thing sonny

Harsh ban tbh

He's right you know. Why the fuck was he banned for this?

monty on the run by Rob Hubard

That was Justified S01 ep….3 or 4 I think, last 2 minutes. Chick show really. Every character was a pozzed nu-stereotype. Whites were terr'ists & mef heads. Them slotting that story in there was such blatent kikery it hurt to watch. Kikemaster makes sure to invoke holocaust, 'terrible artist', and such. Hurts to remember even.

tbh i dont think hitler had the right insights when it came to dimensions, look at the pic in the op, those corners and angles are not what they're supposed to be

Get the fuck out of here and never come back. go watch some splotches of shit on a canvas.

A student candidate doesn't have to present "innovative" gimmicky work, he should showcase technical prowess, you retards. Without mastery your invention is next to worthless. Go try to sell your original plz dun' steal idea to a game developer or a movie maker, see if they care.

I don't even respect Adolf as a leader, he fucked up on multiple fronts, but he was a competent artist and you got to be a brainwashed moron to remain blind to it after being fed a couple lines of ww2 burger narrative. It looks you dead in the face and you don't see it, pathetic.

for example look at the 4th picture, it looks like the little farm building on the right is inside out, he was a good painter but his perception of depth was not right

Did you ever see a building like that irl? Did you?

You don't even know what you're complaining about anyway, its not depth, its lighting+rendering.

egon schiele is light-years above hitler in technique and expressivity. that he chose to focus on ugliness and degeneracy is another subject

Hitler drew things with realism and beauty. The art colleges at the time were as Judaized as ours are today, and were only accepting grotesque surrealism. Hitler was rejected because he drew pretty landscapes and realistic buildings, instead of obese worm people fornicating or surreal scribbles that a child with a charcoal stick could have made just as easily.

The only thing "wrong" with his architectural art are minor mistakes in perspective. Some of his drawn buildings were leaning.

It's funny you say that, because if you look up Kinkade on Wikipedia and go to the "controversies" section, there are three names listed as prominant posthumous critics of his work. They are, in the order they appear, Susan Orlean, Laura Miller, and Nathan Rabin. All three of them have either their own article or stub on Wikipedia.

Of the three, Orlean and Rabin are both open and confirmed Jews. Miller seems to be a crypto, but not much information exists on her, since she is genuinely irrelevant even by journalistic standards.

Playing this sort of game on Wikipedia is a great way to work yourself up into a frothing rage. If you ever bother to follow the links around, you will be amazed at how obvious this kind of thing becomes. The entire world of published literature and accredited art is a gigantic mafia racket operated by Jews. That's not even controversial. Wikipedia itself, the most basic bitch of basic bitch, makes this abundantly clear if you actually start running down the articles of the people involved and seeing how many of them are Jews.

If you really want to make yourself angry, try playing this game and seeing how interconnected and incestuous the highest tier of American governance is. You'll very quickly realize that the same hundred-ish people are sitting on all the boards and seats for things like Disney, McDonalds, and Monsato, and will often step back and forth between these positions in the private sector and accept public appointments to White House, Cabinet, or advisory positions heading lobbying groups and think tanks.

America is literally run by the same ninety people who give each other all of the appointments and positions, and whenever there's a regime change in the government, they just play a game of musical chairs and trade places with each other. But all of these people are privately friends, they all know each other, none of them actually hold any real jobs that require actual work, and 95% of them are Jewish. They can do this because there are no actual rules in place preventing you from sitting on multiple private boards or actively participating in both public and private enterprises at the same time. It seems like a simple and unnessary loophole, but even a casual perusal through the public and open records of these listed institutions shows absolutely staggering levels of graft, corruption, and cronyism.

It's amazing how much of a conspiracy this isn't when you get right down to it. It's a matter of public record. They aren't even trying to hide it. A bored idiot with an empty afternoon and an internet connection at a library or computer lab at a school could raw up a Beautiful Mind spider web of all of the people who are explicitly responsible for destroying and subverting our nation. It isn't even all that difficult. They are not trying to hide in the slightest.

This is the plain truth; this is the state we live in.

That should be enough to execute any kike. I don't want painting of shit to circle in my society, just as I don't want crack and meth to be legal.

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Don't blame the hand blame the brain.

It always pissed me of how much the media talks shit on norman rockwell.

God damn. It's such a shit and uninformed argument. KYS kike

People forget to that these were tiny watercolors not huge canvas oils like Rembrandt that people are used to seeing shrunk down on a video screen. There's only so much detail you can put in those kind of paintings.

same with kinkade.
wholesome people love Kinkade and Rockwell, so jealous jews shit on them. No matter how much gold they have the schlomo shekelstein can never buy taste, talent, honour, or pride.

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Not necessarily.

gas yourself

I never really understood yhe "Hitler was bad at Art, that's why he got rejected." Thing, and maybe it's because I dont understand the european school system. It seems like he had at least a grasp on the basics, and some intermediate skills. Wouldn't he go to school at that level to improve? After all if he was master level and perfect at the craft, why would he need to go to school in the first place?

Although highly technically talented at painting, he was a unextraordinary artist/painter. He was also an Ameroweeb and got many of his ideas from America.

I agree that unless you bring something new, you will be a side note at best. Racism is going to make less and less sense when people are soon able to choose their offspring's characteristics.

Non-art fags may have a hard time believing this, but a properly badly drawn Pepe is MUCH more impactful than some "masterwork" Hitler obbsesively laboured hours over.

I'll agree however there's a huge streak of degeneracy among "successful*" artists.

This is a terrible fucking post.

There are zero genes of other races that we want. White men are the most physically formidable humans on the planet. If anything, we'll want to perfect white genes.

You shills should post your refutations of his work.

There's a reason why they're so upfront about it; they know that nobody in this day and age would bother nor care to go and look any of this up, thanks to all the information that exists out there. It's like a normalfag trying to find a certain passage in an extensively long book, it's all just words to them.

The judean has the average person tangled up in and hooked onto frivolities far too much for them to care enough to find out the real reason behind their woes, so all the jew has to do is misdirect, play some games, and put on shows, and the goy shan't ever know who's to blame.

There are obviously some possible holes in my assumption regarding that particular point.

It seems though that the future is coming so fast, and will offer such radical changes and challenges that there's no time to quibble on matters of race any more than we already do.

For instance, no racism was needed to enforce immigration rules.

Racism isn't a real thing. Whites have a right to a homeland. If they can't try and displace us illegally, they'd find a way to displace us legally.

Are you a lefty or what? That shit doesn't real, multikulti doesn't work, Nazi Germany was insanely efficient for a reason, figure it out.

We should go about changing that through Trump.

Someone screen cap that anons post.

Part of the problem is this state we're in where everyone is actively protected from 'racism' and allowed their own group identity and group cohesion except 'Whites' or Europeans.

This is where I think the "ethic Kekistani" meme can make a subtle point to normies.

But what I mean by 'racism' is more the less more unpleasant aspect such as negativity towards others, verses group cohesion and self-preservation.

But back to the art thing; While I'd say Hitlers own work was highly skilled though artisticaly empty, the art, symbolism and propaganda of his state was powerful.

Art has many effects. I think this is only now becoming clear to the general public.

bump

The problem is, that even if you show potential, they'll pretend not to care then steal the idea.

weren't you reminded already that eastkikes can't make art?

[citation needed]

Yeah, probably because we are not brainwashed by kike professors.

t. someone that had made a living out of caricatures and simple sketches

This is getting old.

Is that your way of saying "I am an extra spezul snowflake that draws perverted abominations in order to be expressive of the clusterfuck in my psyche"?

this kind of shitty middle school understanding could only have come from leftyfur

yeah, something that will be branded as nazism and as smeared as nazism was. it's like you never learn

Hitler wasn't accepted because he didn't practice portraiture and figure enough. The entrance exam that he failed twice is comprised of drawing a portrait and drawing a nude figure. If reports of Hitler's behavior from his time in Vienna are true, his roommate claimed he did not like to practice. All these anons talking about "artistry" are retarded and no such thing is measured when accepting art students into the academy back then. Hell, Schelbe hated how rigid and conservative his art school education was and left it 1907 to eventually start drawing his degenerate jew shit a year later.

Hitler's perspective isn't wrong, he just played the game with a different FOV