I've been around many left wingers, and the common denominator is an insistence that its all about systems instead of conscious human beings.
Be it capitalism, patriarchy, or just "da system". And I am terribly skeptical of that. How the fuck can you determine my behavior to be part of some system, and more importantly, how can you say what of my behavior isn't part of the system? It makes no fucking sense
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And in regards to capitalism, maybe the most radical statements of all is that it doesn't exist at all.
You are using one to shitpost.
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Capitalism exists, you're an establishment shill without realizing it good job.
"System" is just a label used for a set of interacting parts, much like "human" is a label for a set of interacting parts. You don't have to call it a system, because the criticisms of it don't hinge on it being called a system. Its properties don't change when you look at it as a set of many interacting individuals.
The important thing about the "system" of capitalism is that the actions of an individual can't really change anything. If the CEO of Apple decided he wanted to embrace socialism, he'd just lose his job. If a billionaire decides to give all his money away to his employees, that will only help a small number of people for a relatively short period of time. It's fundamentally just a tragedy of the commons situation. The only way to fix the problems in the "system" is to change some variable which is common to all of the parts which make it up. That is why people talk about changing the material conditions.
I do applaud you for looking beneath the surface and recognizing that reality emerges from simple parts. That is the first step towards rejecting most id-pol and propaganda. A bottom-up approach is usually a good way to analyze complex systems.
But isn't the whole left wing thing that if people worked hard enough and realized that they were being thrown around by the rich leftism could win?
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See what happens.
Most strains of leftism advocate for mass action.
yes but only with the hard work of a lot of individuals can that mass action actually happen, right?
I don't think that's likely to happen. I think the most likely catalyst of change is the development of better technology, just as it has been throughout human history.
Holla Forums and the left in general are hardly unanimous in their opinions though. As the joke goes, if you lock two leftists in a room they'll spit into 3 factions which each assert that the others are wrong.
No, system isn't just a vague notion, it means something very specific as in "systems theory" and cybernetics where you have units that communicate and exchange information in feedback loops, that is what systems are. There is no feudal system because there was no ICTs, even early capitalism wasn't a system yet for the same reason, it was still a traditional domination instead of a hegemony capable of integrating everything as just another component.
You've literally described every group of living organisms since the first pheromones evolved.
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That conception of life has only been developed after systems theory was born, it came directly from biologists studying computer scientists. And I'm obviously not saying only computers are systems, computer networks are just the purest manifestation and function as a model for the whole of contemporary society.
The system is trying to destroy the white race through immigration, moral degradation, and irrelevant shiting. Surely you agree OP?
No, I am not alt right. Only vaguely conservative but still liberal on some issues.
Because your thought has to be based on something it doesnt simply get inspired by some random god or something, that is a philosophical statement, your way of thinking is based on the way you interact with society and your social relations and how they afected you
how does this work in your mind, OP??
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