System Shock 3 is in development

Well, the weird thing is, there was no trend setter to begin with. Three different organizations just got the same idea at the same time.

Title sounds like a reboot, but I heard in E3 that it was a sequel.

Alot of people on the kickstarter team are massive sjws.

M-modern warfare was sci fi last time right?

Bioshock 1 aged so-so.
Bioshock 2 aged well because it was entirely gameplay focused unlike the first.
Also Bioshock 2 is one of the few first person games where you can play as fucking Sub-Zero if you build yourself right.

what the fuck were they thinking

Games do not age badly
Bioshock games were always fucking garbage, even at release

Ah yeah i forgot this is the new neo-Holla Forums meme you're so fond of lately.

They wrote the original prey out of history.

gotta be kidding, right chap?

I was more thinking over what games had a future thing to them recently that were also relatively popular. After all current age settings are getting stale and they need a new gimmick.

Also they're both FPS so incompetent publishers/developers see no difference in them. I dunno if you're retarded and think I believe they're similar. If you do you need to go learn some English.

Go back to cuckchan

No, you go back to reddit with your shit neo/v/ memes instead.
Games aging was always a thing that could be discussed on Holla Forums, until you shitstains came along and found new creative ways to push your historic revisionist agenda.

Well no shit, user.

Fuck off and die.

The studio, "Night Dive" is based on Portland. They are ALL unbearable faggot sjws.

They have confirmed a console release, so file this one under "Games that didn't need a remake, but some shithead got the license to do it and they have a Unity license and no talent Vol XVI"

Pardon my chav english m8, actually I'm polish.

Games do age. If pacman was made today, it would be nothing more than a decently popular android app.

"age badly" means a game magically becomes worse as time goes on. Nothing else.

Not a remake, user. Reboot.

But they do. Unlike people back in the 70's, I can't be addicted to Space Invaders.

Epic shitpost.

Thanks friend.

If you don't understand the simple concept of a game aging you're too stupid even for reddit.
Go back to 9gag, you piece of shit, i hope you get prostate cancer.

Cuckchan go and stay go.

Here's a question about the new prey
will it actually have you playing as spess bounty hunter and have cool shit like spirit guide and vagina doors and gravity walkways and whatnot? I really liked the organic ship feel of the first Prey

I'm starting to get really pissed at this necrophilic trend of raping old franchises just for the power of their name. Some games deserved better than being disinterred, reconstructed and tergiversated for the faggy, casual audiences of the 21st century.

Kill yourself.

I'd guess, publishers are trying to cash in on old names more then before, since it looks like the common sheep os starting to wake up.
At the same time they can try and erase the originals that are vastly superior to everything that has been coming out in recent years with claiming that the reboot/remake/whatever willl have the same name.

You can see this shit already happening with Thief and Doom where jewgle lists mostly the new games on the first page instead of the original.

Then go play pong RIGHT NOW and have fun with it for a week.
Go on, record a video of yourself playing pong for a week straight having fun with it.
Since games don't age it will work, right?
You dumb niggers, how fucking stupid are you?

System shock 1 apparently aged too much for you, that's why you are rooting for this shitty remake for casual modern players.

You know that players became casuals, not games aged.

Just go to cuckchan and stay there already.

even worse

Go suck on a dick, you've got nothing to say because your shit is pure nonsense.

System shock 3 and the remake will be shit considering how awful the demo looked in every regard. The animator is some lolcow SJW as well whose only experience was SFM porn.

New and improved graphics, mechanics, engines, consoles and talent happen over time. Games that are made using the limits of what's offered in their current era can age.

Bioshock was great at the time, but compared to FPS games now it's a bit on the clunky side and the characters are pretty ugly (and not on purpose).

Not "magically". "Comparatively". Which is a thing. Old cars are comparatively worse than new ones, so they've "aged" badly. The term "aged" is a colloquialism/euphemism, sure, but it doesn't make it untrue.

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You become a genetically engineered quarter gook or some shit who gets trapped in a floating space lab. Maybe there will be gravity walkways. I don't know, don't care anyway.

Seems like they're cashing on their popularity, but not removing them. They're even comparing the new Doom on the old Doom, so the devs expect people who likes the old Doom to buy their game.

The control scheme and sprite based 2.5D graphics do age, but SS1 remains one of my favorite game ever.

And don't forget the unity engine. 8 gig ram for a unity game? Like, holy shit.

Homogenization of the most popular themes in vidya trends? That's all I got.

Really?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

But now nudoom comes up on the search results instead of doom 93.

Yes I do. I've got plenty to say. I can easily point out your logical fallacies.

No they can't. They don't magically become worse over time so they do not age. More advanced graphics or mechanics does not make other mechanics worse
No it fucking wasn't. It was already watered down, mechanically worse and visually unimpressive piss at its release.
So basically to make your argument work you have to be completely retarded and say something that makes absolutely no sense. Sounds about right. Again, something does not become worse just because something new is made. Your arguments are fucking stupid.
Nobody says this. They just say the cars are worse. This is also another false equivalency since games don't work like that at all and aren't comparatively worse just from being older than a new release.

aside from Lords of the Fallen and that indie platformer about salt I don't remember this ever being a trend.

Simple:

Those of us who played System Shock in our youth want to relive our glory days. And the older demographic has more disposable income.

That shit needs a trendsetter. There's no trendsetter here.

M.A.R.K.E.T.I.N.G

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Yeah. How it looks does not even justify the 8gigs of ram or system requirements. The animation feels awful and none of the attacks have weight to them. System shock one had more wait in the attacks since it at least felt like you bashed a mutants head in with the pipe.

Then again, them ain producer talked about being ashamed of working on system shock, deus ex, and other games since they are violent and promote violence or bigots. THen he came back to work on this game after epic mickey 2 flopped.

Look up Maxof2SD. He is a massive SJW lolcow who used to make futa pyro SFM porn and then quit because he realized it was bigoted or something and then talked about how awful sexual things are since they promote violence. He also talked about how bad futa was for reinforcing genders or something and fetishising trannies. You can look him up on twitter and watch the asshurt fly by asking him about pyro succubus or by saying, "mistakes into miracles." He has his own ED page due to how much he spergs out.

You don't get it. There has to be a system shock-like game that gets popular first before other devs follow them. Haven't played Bioshock infinite, but is it anything like SS?

You serious? Damn this just keeps getting better and better.

NEVER FORGET
NEVER FORGIVE

According to the "games age badly" crowd this is the best Thief game yet. And if they say its not they destroy the whole idea behind "games age badly".

I got the name wrong. It is Maxof2SD. He also made models and animations of other TF2 characters but now regrets his old ways. You could go on twitter right now and ask him about futa pyro, succubus pyro, or anything along those lines to either get blocked or yelled at.

its not every day you learn some neat new vocabulary on an imageboard created to discuss korean comics

That should be a warning sign for anyone considering on getting it

This is gonna be shit

Garry Newman and Maxof2SD are kind of in the same clique of desperate SJW fags who people hated when they meet in real life. I remember people here and on /cow/ debated him or something in some stream and could not handle the autism. He is also working on the remake.

You broke it down into points and ignored more than half of them (game limits, "comparatively" argument), and were wrong about what you addressed (Bioshock at time of release, old cars argument).

Cheers, mates. You're on your own with this nutter.

Bioshock was a shit game even when it came out, that Levine rat sold it on empty promises.

I also forgot to add that I am pretty sure he only got hired because he is friends/knows warren Spector. Warren Spector being the producer of the old system shock and deus ex games who did nothing but take credit for being on the team. Any time he gets control shit happens like Invisible war or epic mickey 2. Warren Spector is also a massive SJW who coattails off of other peoples' success.

The responsibility for the mess that was invisible war lies entirely on Harvey Smith, not that I'm defending Spector or have any kind of hope or interest in him.

A good story doesn't age.
Cool characters will always stay cool.
Gameplay never changes.
Art style is still magnificent even after years.

Graphics does age so if you're a graphics whore playing old games is hard.

But games like Digital Devil Saga or Suikoden are still as good as ever.

Right on cue.

I FUCKING HATE THIS INDUSTRY HOLY FUCK

Holy shit, I think I've had my fill of autism for the rest of the year.

I am so sorry I had to tell you about that. When I learned he was working on the new system shock games, I could only feel a great disappointment considering how I only thought that System Shock 1 was good and was eating for a true sequel.

Holy shit the OST for Digital Devil Saga was some of the best tracks I've heard for a game. There is also the art style that nobody ever see anymore, not even in a SMT game.

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Good thing no one who actually knows about System Shock (or cares) is going to buy this hulking pile of shit. Mighty Number Shit is a prime example of this.

The "games can age badly" meme cuckchanners, everyone.

Iwouldn't be suprised if it reaches the stretch goal as well.
You know, then one that locks basic features that the original already had.

What the fuck?

HA! Fuck no, Bioshock Infinite is what System Shock would be if System Shock was made for retards.

Shit like that that isn't part of the core game, but rather a small extra is fine for a stretch goal.
But locking shit behind them that is integral to the game, like say different types of ammunition, that is fucking retarded.

You know this game will be shit because they showed a cinematic of the guy shooting shit instead of actual gameplay of shooting shit

What I'm trying to say is that I really can't imagine an orchestral score in a game like System Shock.

Just look at Bioshit or Dead Space, that's enough.

This simply isn't true. Playing old NES games, the controls are real stiff. Even the jump to the SNES is quite noticeable.

Don't be stupid, nor make the judgement that i must only like games from 2008+ onwards.

As for Bio-Shock. It's fun. Nothing more, nothing less. Infinite isn't fun.

This is the new audience.

Some Horror orchestral scores are better than others.

youtube.com/watch?v=RyUiu_2jjP8

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Prepare to rage.

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This can't be real.
I WANT PROOF!
HERE'S YOUR SPOON!

neverfucking mind

I'd play intellivision pong with you, user. Shit's still fun.

Bullshit, stiffness doesn't have anything to do with a game's age, but with the devs programming prowess.
Compare Action 52 or any LJN Game to Super Mario Bros. or Rockman, compare those two to stiff as shit SNES games like Actraiser or Hagane.

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It's not even related to Prey other than the title.

Saying "this game aged badly" implies that you're too dense to pick up older games because they did things differently.

You're the gaming equivalent of people who "don't watch black and white films".

immersive

That was the first thing that pissed me off about the demo. I was going to forgive it until I saw the dev team wasn't a bunch of students.

To be fair, many early games weren't "fun" but just tasks of memorization to extend their shelf. I'm also have a job and responsibilities so I don't have the time to spend fucking around with a game for infinite hours. You really think you'd enjoy playing Daggerfall today? With its miles of "randomized" but completely generic towns and terrain?

I want to kill someone.

Saying that a game has aged poorly means that standards have improved since then, you retards. A lot of old PC games have very slow and clumsy UIs and menus. Some of them have clumsy controls with key binds that are far from ideal (and in some cases they can't be fixed without third party programs).

While there are shitty disasters of UIs these days, like Skyrim, dialogue wheels, QTEs and so on, responsiveness and how fast they are are things that generally have been improved.

Older games also tend to be less responsive in general movement and inputs.

right, and shakespeare's aged badly because the language is archaic and obtuse

Bullshit, it's all in "streamlining" for consoles in certain games. I took the bait but whatever, go back to plebbit.

Brand erasure to spite Human Head for escaping.

so you're saying it's a pure coincidence

You know I was gonna say something like how graphics ages or whatever, but it's clear to me your a plebe.

Bioshock is average, as far as i'm concerned that's worse then bad because i don't remember anything about it except for a few moments here and there. To put that in comparison I still remember the gameplay of Area 51 and it's transformation from generic shooter whack-a-mole and that game didn't even give an inch of enjoyment out of me.

you autist

The timelessness of art lies in it's spirit, the artist's embodiment of his vision. The way it is articulated it might age due to the limitations of skills, technology, language barriers and technique the artist used. But at a certain point of the development of an artistic medium, this issue can be tackled. Like when comparing caveman stick banging to Bach, Bach is timeless because he knows how to articulate his art well. We can easily understand the artistic vision Bach put in Passion of St Matthew, even without knowing German language.

The artistic vision of video game is too limited to be as timeless as art. Video game relies a lot more on mechanics. The emphasis on the game aspect of a video game should be strong, or else it won't be a good game. Video game is a form of entertainment, not art.

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I don't know tbh.

Yup, just like how all of a sudden all gaming "journos" got the idea that gamers were dead

That makes too much sense, user.

Fuck that, need more NIN like in the original.

And in fact, both the sequel and remake BETTER have cyberspace, fuck you I loved cyberspace.

In fact, the original System Shock is amazing for one reason, it's one of the few games that actually felt like an adventure, unlike in System Shock 2 in which by the end of the game you were this insane killing machine, in SS1 throughout the whole game you are pretty vulnerable but it's through raw skill and smart use of equipment that you reach the end and defeat Shodan, in SS2 it's just based on how many good boy points you spent on your character, which was not bad, but it just lacked the sense of skill that SS1 provides. SS1 was not scary, as if it tried to be, it was SS2 that did with the horror twist and what a mistake that was, as it's a game with freaking cyborg ninjas and the like, SS1 was just a fun adventure in space with a couple of creepy moments, but that was it, it was pure non stop adventure with a focus on player driven exploration, you had your checklist of objectives but they never felt too restrictive on the ways you tackled them or when you tackled them, it felt like you naturally and gradually opened a path towards the top deck where you battle shodan instead of a grocery list of objectives that you complete in order to unlock the next level.

How does this happen anyways? "I love big futa dicks so much oh yeah so hot" "hey um, futa is bad and promotes bad feelings and sex is evil and all sex is rape…"
Is it a girlfriend? some kinda brainwash? You dont put all this effort and time into a passion then just 180 immediately

Spoken like someone who never actually played Daggerfall. No one EVER walked or rode across the landscape between towns, you used fast travel to get everywhere. The game has less wasted time travelling than any of the console-era Elder Scroll games as a result.

It's hard to put the finger on it. On one hand I think there's something in the water supply. On the other hand, it shouldn't trigger such a sudden change in people, it would surely have to take many years, wouldn't it?

I wonder what exactly causes this sudden shift.

Thanks for reminding me to play Digital Devil Saga one of these days.

I'm Polish too, so what? It's better to improve (by capitalizing where necessary, for example) than to ask for lenience.

If they have said "some games were improved upon significantly" instead, would that express that better?

Not saying that Thi4f was an improvement over old Thief games.