Leftist Organizations

So I'm don't just talking about things.
What are some great leftist organizations to join to educate and agitate in the U.S.?

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The sparticists of course.

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This. Sparatcist League are best trots.

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CPUSA and DSA are shilling for Hillary, and cannot be taken seriously.

Socialist Alternative, Party for Socialism and Liberation, and International Socialist Organisation are some of the least-irrelevant ones out there

I'm an idiot for not catching that.
my bad

800 members nationally


tankies


headed for a split

DSA has ~8,000 members and its left wing is probably going to take over soon

How big is this left wing? I've heard something about the Left Caucus

Over what?

Any and all socialist organizations in the US are irrelevant on a national scale. And most state and local scales as well.

So still irrelevant and "probably" going to split and become more irrelevanter soon.

All the right-wing people in DSA who want to support Hillary are old New Leftists, like over 60. All the leftists are young, like in their 20s, and very active. DSA used to be really pro-Dems but they're moving away from it. Read their statement on the election, if it had been written 10 years ago they would have just endorsed Hillary.

Bhaskar's in the Left Caucus, I've heard


Maybe not a split but it's very undemocratic internally. A few years ago they expelled an entire branch at some college for trying to make it more open.


Let's just give up and canvass for Hillary, I agree

Or we can just all together stop with the "relevancy" dickwaving.

I'm not

That's nice, I'm sure you were just pointing out rough membership numbers in order to make a serious point about their theory and practice.

8,000 is a lot for a country as class-cucked as the US. Why the defeatist attitude, comrade?


Isn't Cornell West also in DSA? How big is the Left Caucus? I was under the impression that it was a minority

a-am I being trolled?

yes

What would you recommend then?

Just join SAlt.

Maybe you'll get to meet Sawant or fuck a qt trot girl.

Not that user, but Socialist Alternative seems like the only Marxist party in the US that is actually going anywhere, so I would go with them.

I heard they are really SJW.
Not that it really matters, since it seems like most of these groups are, but is that true?

Are there anarchist groups in the U.S.?

I thought you get kicked out for not being feminist

We talk alot about idpol actually, it's an important discussion. I've attended talks and meetings from both the leadership and the rank and file, and the party line is consistently critical of identity politics, and stresses the need for united working class revolutionary forces instead.

There's the IWW which is active in the US. Maybe you should start a local one. Cmon people, be the change you wanna see.

SAlt, though they have good intentions, are treading in dangerous waters with their Democrat-friendliness in Seattle. They are trying to grow too fast. Will end poorly.

The Bolsheviks grew rapidly too mate.

This.

I'm in the Australian section of the CWI. Which is who SAlt are with. We're opposed to idpol,absolutely. Racism etc is born from capitalism and to end it you abolish capitalism.

You know what else grows rapidly? Cancer cells. Check mate, tankies.

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There's only trots/liberals, i'm sorry OP.

You guys have me curious, but this is one of the first things that pops up when I go to their facebook page for my town.
I don't really call myself a feminist, so I wonder if they'll have a problem with that.

How do I become a successful entryist?

Trying to join the College Dems on advice from some comrades.

It depends on what they mean by feminism. For some definitions (the egalitarian definition), it's entirely true. For others ("all sex is rape," etc.), not so much.


The Bolsheviks were also also one of the most uncompromising communist groups in Russia at the time. The growth of SAlt shouldn't be the worry but the group's closeness to Democrats should.

there are none. if you are an american socialism/communism got killed here thanks to the russians and the cold war. being in a socialist party became being a "tool of a foreign power".

all we can do comrades is wait for the economic collapse where shit gets even worse then the last one and hope that something comes from it and the people actually wake up. the success of trump and B████ ██████ is actually a good sign that the system is destroying itself and the people know it…

all we can do is wait, anything else done would practically be counter revolutionary because we can't be giving socialism a bad rap over here when shit is just starting to take off with class consciousness and government distrust among normal americans

they will

Let me save you some time - yes, they will. If you want a little less time saved, maybe someone can post Cav's experience with them.

/r/ing cav's experience

who is cav?

source on video?
Also, what do you think of groups like SAlt?

Armyfag that joined SALT, got "you're golden"d after saying he thinks the root of all oppression is capital.

freaky bitch - Tommy II

From my experience with leftist organizations (went to a trot meeting), yes.

Also, I actually went to a Sparticist meeting. (The Spark) It was just about BLM-tier shit. I trolled them with my Proudhonian economics and even then they basically strawmanned him. Faggots.

I'm in Michigan by the way, was in Detroit at the time I briefly met with them.

Basically, this poster is right.

Though, it's also the growth of non-working class entities and the "New Left" as well as the abandonment of labor unions that has led to the radical left in America being so shit. That and being anti-nationalist globalist shills too. :^)

The future of American bonafide leftism is through left-wing nationalism, getting the union rank and file to rise up against the Democrat-cucks, and turning the militia movement into the democratic sword of the working-class American citizenry. Of course, there is probably more to be done and it's not that easy, but that would be a good start.

Except that's bullshit.

what do you suggest?

Democracy at work

it's hard to reach the masses when this is the rhetoric coming from most "leftist" in america.

Those are… well I don't know what they are, but certainly nothing recognizably leftist.

I mean, how exactly would one propose to "disestablish" the USA? It's absurd at every angle. It's little more than edgy nonsense spouted so that they can keep their rank and position in their little political fiefdom.

At least the more mainstream identity-reductionists have some power and economic interests to protect.

Probably sparticist league