Traditional gender roles are for CUCKS

FUCK TRADITIONAL GENDER ROLES

As an able-bodied cis white male who can work 40 hours/week you're asking me to share all my money with a woman who does nothing but sit at home and like all women do will eventually start finding all sorts of stuff to complain about or worse will get bored and go out to whore around?

I want my wife to be as hard working as I am and to pull her weight bringing in some dough for the family

National Socialism DOES NOT MEAN free gibmedats to women. You better FUCKING WORK if you're part of my family, and no child rearing is not "work" you fucking parasite.

And do you also want your wife to not spend those work hours with your children? Do you want her to be a "stronk independent womyn"?

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In some sense true. The issue is the white man is so capable of making up for his flaws via his innovation and technology that he has effectively made women obsolete (except for sex and procreation of course. Also, supposing a women acts correctly, a woman existing alongside a man helps the child develop better. Of course, if the woman is trash, a single father is superior than a single mother).
It is tough, what do you make a woman do that doesn't put her competing for men/susceptable to foreign influence? I'd say that there are a lot of things we do now that we could have the family do in order to not waste money. Having/tending a garden (we'd need to fix the apartment situation for this to work completely), knitting clothes, teaching your child during his early years. Making organic food from scratch.

Who says you can't do both? Here's the fucking Bible:

[a] An excellent wife who can find?
    She is far more precious than jewels.
11 The heart of her husband trusts in her,
    and he will have no lack of gain.
12 She does him good, and not harm,
    all the days of her life.
13 

She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands. She is like the ships of the merchant; she brings her food from afar.
15 She rises while it is yet night
    and provides food for her household
    and portions for her maidens.
16 

==She considers a field and buys it;
with the fruit of her hands she plants a vineyard.==
17 She dresses herself[b] with strength
    and makes her arms strong.
18 She perceives that her merchandise is profitable.
    Her lamp does not go out at night.
19 She puts her hands to the distaff,
    and her hands hold the spindle.
20 She opens her hand to the poor
    and reaches out her hands to the needy.
21 She is not afraid of snow for her household,
    for all her household are clothed in scarlet.[c]
22 She makes bed coverings for herself;
    her clothing is fine linen and purple.
23 Her husband is known in the gates
    when he sits among the elders of the land.
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She makes linen garments and sells them; she delivers sashes to the merchant.

You CAN work and run a business while child rearing. A true aryan wife would not be a lazy parasite.

Hitler said that "there will be no all-female firing-squads in my Germany"
Get fucked, Hitler wanted safe, happy women not modern career-obsessed whores.

There it is, fuck off christkike

No. She ensures you have healthy meals available when you get home so you never have to resort to processed jew shit even if you don't have time to cook, cares for and educates your children, keeps the house clean, and can provide supplementary income from stuff she can do at home–baking, making clothes, whatever.
Yes it is. It only excludes all else early on, but it absolutely is work and it makes it improper for a woman to try to do the kind of work a man does.

Running small home-based business making stuff is very different from commuting to an office to work for Shlomo, and such a business is meant to serve the family rather than to be an end in itself. A woman's highest duty is motherhood, a (((career))) that takes her away from the kids works against this.

ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

glad you're still around.

Raising multiple children to be good productive people is a full time job. Work and save, if you're smart she'll be able to stay at home full time or part time. A child needs it's mother and you're fucking selfish if you want to hoard your money for yourself you fucking jew. You obviously are not family oriented and don't understand the structure and nature of the family unit

t. someone from a big family

you are a kike shill
sage

The wife runs a home business of some kind while being pregnant for a decade and tending to your spawn. She'll be happier that way anyways.

Alright fuck this place.

Nearly everyone here is either a kike, commie, or idiot. Some of you guys are alright, and you know who you are.

The rest of you can all go fuck off and die.

Just get yourself a husband, faggot.

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Only in few cases can women do both things, and even then stress from work affects women more since they are more emotionally sensible, so when Mommy comes all tired from working and little Jimmy tells her he wants to go to the park with Mommy, mommy will shout Jimmy that she is tired and she will go to the park with him tomorrow, and tells him to fuck off and study, which of course, is a lie because she has to work from Monday to Saturday, and so the principle of motherhood doesn't exist in Jimmy's family

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The reason traditional gender roles exist is due to hr fact that women are not as capable as men. You can not demand the same level of effort or diligence or even morals from a woman that men exhibit. Our burden is to drag these half-children with us and the best we can hope for is emotional support and understanding. Which, granted, you wont geht from modern women.

so riddle me this kike, who is going to raise the kids?
after the kids are old enough, sure the wife should work, but before that?
the point of a family is to raise kids that will become succesful members of society, bettering it for themselves and the nation at large

Dear God this thread is shit.

You're an idiot. They're less capable than men at being men. Women are higher in agreeableness, which makes them both better partners to men and better mothers. If you disagree, go be a faggot somewhere else and let your line die with you.

There is not a single activity or job that a man could not perform better than a woman. This includes raising kids. The majority of teachers used to be men, after all. Even for very young kids.

maybe the top tier men having the traits suited for raising children, but if we take women and men in general you still think this is true?

Neck yourself.
Also, motherhood is a full time job and women don't belong in the workplace.

If we are talking in modern times, then yes. Even if we're talking in old times, I'd still say yes. Although women might've (as mothers) been "better" back then (supposing this is true), the men would also have been better.

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If you want to see the consequences of what you're advocating, just have a look around. It's shit.

Oh good. Let the state raise my kids.

Way to completely misinterpret the bible you retarded jew


Hi Holla Forums

Well yes, housewives are a meme and it's outdated, not because of muh progressive values but because there just isn't that much job to do at home anymore. Cooking, cleaning, laundry, it is all more or less automatized now. There's nothing for her to do at home anymore other than bearing children which she doesn't have to be unemployed for. There's just no reason for her to be at home anymore, it's not her natural state either as women have for most of our history helped collecting berries, building shelter, working on the farm etc etc

My girlfriend is studying a STEM-degree and she will go on to pursue a career. I have absolutely no problem with that, in fact her intelligence and ambition is something attractive to me. She still wants children and she will put her career aside temporary to birth and raise them without a problem. As long as your wife isn't a feminist, there's no problem with her working. It's just something positive as you'll make more money and have better genetic material for your kids.

Why don't you just kill yourself instead op? Mad cuck.

A small aspect of my world view agrees with a small aspect of OP's view. I couldnt agree more that IF they want to be equals with us, they need to fucking BE equals. Work load, initiative, heinsight and forethought are huge aspects of a males role in any workplace. Let alone the physical capabilities to carry out the former aspects. And I fucking hate working with "weak" "helpless" "pathetic" women who spend more time spreading rumors and gossiping than doing any fucking work. I spent a year of my life in a hardware store with a bunch of literal pussies (vaginas) and all I did was cop shit, and do ALL the heavy lifting, while the mass amount of flappy pussies did nothing. BUT!!! hell, fucking, no. My women will be locked up in the house to raise my fucking spawn if and when. My girl atm is an ace at life, she works hard, she keeps up with me and we get paid the same (self employed) but if i fuck up and impregnate her, she wont be lifting a finger. The true role of a women is to raise a child. The true role of the man is to bring home the bacon. I will spend time with my kid when they are old enough (passed the shitting, eating, sleeping, repeating and screaming stage) to teach them life skills and all that I know so they can progress and learn more by the time they are my age. But sorry OP, a women is a gentle soft creature. Thats why they can bever ever be our equals or anything less than weak and pathetic.

Women are better at raising babies, and men are better at raising adolescents. Women are very protective of their babies and want to do everything for them, which is wholly appropriate for a baby. Once the child starts growing up and is no longer a helpless baby, however, the father comes more into play. Older children need to be encouraged in a rather literal sense of the words, rather than protected; fathers do that better than mothers.

By the time children are of school-age, they're already at a stage where they need encouragement rather than protection - hence the better male teachers. Men and women each have their role, however. It's absolute nonsense to suggest that men are better at and more enjoy taking care of newborns and whatnot. It's simply a matter of division of labor. If men truly were better than women in every way, the most successful families in society would be gay couples with either adopted or surrogate-spawned children. The fact that gays are some of the least successful "families" in society should perhaps give you a hint that your model is not remotely reflective of reality.

One of the reasons this generation is so cucked is the sheer amount of female bullshit boys have to endure. A boy can go from kindergarden through school into college without ever seeing a male authority figure.

Assuming gays act like heterosexual men, which they don't.

That encouragement crap though (as it is implemented at least), especially for young kids, leads to the everyone is a winner mentality/special snowflake junk. A male with a good sense of judgement would be better even at a younger age due to their ability to instill proper values in a kid. The best a woman could do is pamper/spoil a kid.

I have to agree here. My god the first real male role model I ever had was my first dealer besides my own father. My Dad is a real manly man dont get me wrong, but he was at work my whole life, but my mate Troy, I tell you. That cunt lived a hell of a life, and I respected the fuck out of him … Until he wrapped his car around a tree.

Try having 5 kids and see how much free time she gets.

The Soviet Union is the only society in human history where women performed their home duties as wives and mothers while also pulling their weight economically through real work

Is it 0? Did … Did i do good dad?
Fuck having 5 kids what the fuck are you half rabbit? Fuck sake you can splodge in a sock for the same effort and not have a kid.

Typical hedonist detected.
Well, you can still hire a nurse for the last one of you two alive to stand by the bedside when it's time to go into the spirit realm.

Et cetera.

And maybe you'll have some good friends or neighbors with whom you can barbequeue.
Or go on little excursions.
And see their kids grow up, although if you're this bitter about children then they're probably bitter too and won't raise them well.

If at all.

They'll be in school. When they're small she'll obviously have to work less or nothing during periods. Also 5 children is the absolute maximum I'll want, I think 3-4 is the perfect number.

I live in a country where there isn't that much propaganda in school, thankfully. You'll have to adjust if you do of course.

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Is being a private teacher, nurse, chef, and housemaid not having a job? Back in the old days, before schools, all of the shit you learn in school was taught to you by your mother while your father was out working. When you came of age you'd learn the trade of your father and eventually take over his business. In those times too she would work on the farm just as the man of the house did but the children came first, young ones especially.

Your idea of traditional gender roles is wrong from the start. Lazing around at home being pregnant isn't the traditional role of the mother.

Jesus that post you made is as incoherent as a sylvester stalone audio book.
Its called a joke … You laugh, or you carry on. Seriously fuck having that many kids I did not say DONT have kids.
And I dont have kids btw, and im certainly not bitter about it, I just feel 1-3 kids is ample, 4+ is fucking stupid. My contention, my opinion. Now carry on and fight your good fight cause everyone else with as much or more brain power than you will see Theres no point here. Just opinion.

western civilization is slowly crumbling, partly because of declining birth rates
people need to start having kids

That's the thing. You can no longer work on your own farm and there just isn't anything to do at home that she can teach the children. We live in a high tech society now and it's just going to get more developed. You'll have to prepare your kids for a future where they'll need a master's degree at the very least, probably a PhD by the time they're old. Having an educated and intelligent wife will offer the absolutely best genes for your children to succeed in this new world.

You can LARP all you want but the days when we lived on a farm or worked on our little car repair business on the corner are over. This has nothing to do with kikes and cultural marxism but with automatization and technology.

Christ i never said dont, i said fuck having a gaggle, or a litter, just have a couple of lil mongrels then save ya sperm for moisturizing your womens face. You all need to chill you take every post as some kind of sleight or personal attack. I was just telling bugs bunny over there that every time he wants to have a sexual release it doesnt need to be between his womens legs while she is ovulating.

Hmmm k
Sorry fella I cant agree there. Peak oil, endless growth dependent on finite resources, and the stupid getting stupider. Soon it wont be a about that little framed phd on the wall, it will be about how quickly you can run in and out of someones house to steal their supplies without getting killed. I dont care if that sounds gay or pathetic. Its just going to be the case when the financial system implodes and theres no food in the supermarket.

You're not wrong, but you're right for all the wrong reasons.

what a great thread, totally worth the space. go fellate a shotgun OP

Have you tried reading, writing, and arithmetic
Pull your head out of your ass, user. Have you ever even left the suburbs before?

Ye that's a risk but the elite won't let it happen. Atleast not in their wealthy secluded areas where you must live in the future unless you want to get fucked by the brown hordes.


Top tier private schools will teach them all that way better while simultaneously giving them the chance to socialize with other children.

Also more or less all of those trade jobs you mentioned will be gone within a few decades. It's understandable you don't get just how bad it has already become unless you work in tech but take it from someone with a degree in math and comp sci who work in the field. Taxi drivers are already losing their jobs thanks to Uber and self-driving cars, bus drivers are next. After that most of carpenting and maintenance will be mostly automatized.

Also you don't have to go to university to learn this, but you need to go to get the piece of paper to get employers to hire you.

Its funny because in real traditional roles, both men and women worked all year round on their farmsteads (with women looking after the house and animals while men ploughed and harvested and everyone, including the smallest of children, helped in thrashing) while simultaneously having time for family, friends, church and festivities.

Your idealized 50s postcard family is just that - an idealized image.

Real traditional gender roles mean working either for the family or around the family, don't choose a woman to be an ornament for the house because you are only fucking yourself over with that.
Sage because OP is a moron who doesn't know history.

Not what I'm talking about at all, i.e. the bullshit communist-infiltrated public school line about how everyone is equal and worthy of self-confidence regardless of their condition.

What I'm referring to above regarding encouragement is providing the child with the courage to face the world; to face to bloodshed, rather than cowering behind a motherly figure - be it their mother or the state. That comes not from empty praise, but the provision of skills and values such that a legitimate sense of courage grows in the child.

This is painfully shitty, one of the parents needs to rear the children. Ideally fathers for sons and mothers for daughters.

Interesting that a thread saying the exact opposite is now currently on Holla Forums

3 doesn't solve the problem quickly enough

Raising the next generation is the most important thing that any of us will do, and women are better at it then we are. Just because your woman isn't bringing home a pay-check doesn't mean that what she is doing isn't important.

Lame post, OP.

Ok maybe in an after the world ends scenario when we arent crammed in like sardines, fighting for the scraps getting underpaid but overworked would it be feasible to have more than three. But under the current paradigm its ludicrous to consider it. You have to be realistic. I also never said we arent underpopulated and need more kids, absolutely the kikes are sterilising us at an alarming rate.

Working women do shittier work and lower the wages for men. Women should only work in the home. OP is a niggerfaggot.

If your wife has time to "whore around" then you don't have enough children.

There is absolutely no time for her ton pursue a career if you do what nature intended and have her be practically perpetually pregnant since the moment you marry until her baby factory calls it quits. That means that 10 kids if they are all healthy is what's humans have strived for for millennia. And no, she will not have time to do anything else for tend to the household with that many kids.

Birth control was a mistake. What the fuck is she going to do at home with 1 or possibly 2 kids of the modern age?

Back To Reddit GayBoy

We don't follow Jewish literature here

I think the best scenario is a stay at home mom (and dad too if possible), homeschooling the kids and working online as a freelancer in her spare time, not watching daytime tv.
In fact no tv in the house, fuck that hypno-brainwash bullshit.

She is in a traditional role. She spends 24/7 ensuring her children are safe and don’t grow up to be the monsters we're forced to deal with on a daily basis in today’s society. Its actually the most vital role in the household. Its why our ancestors were willing to put their lives on the line in wars throughout history.

Also no one ever suggested they couldn’t have their own careers after the children leave the home if they chose too. I would even go so far as to promote free tuition to encourage it.

Cool. You have a girlfriend yet?

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Getting married with our current laws is suicide. Child support is a hell of a lot easier to deal with, without alimony and losing half your shit on top of it.

All women are going to cheat on you if a better option comes around, it's their nature.

This user knows what's up.

whats next? youre going to say
Fuck western civilization?
Fuck white people?
Fuck reality?

Triple dubs of Truth!

However I would point out that younger children should be given house work, gardening, etc. responsibilities to run the household. Homeschool them so they don't waste all their time on bullshit and makework, they'll be able to play more and learn life skills.

Eat shit, retard.

Spotted the shill retard.

lel such horseshit. A lot of women are perfectly capable for most jobs (excluding military, police and other physical jobs). They're not half-children and on average actually more intelligent than men. You would've known this if you weren't a NEET with zero female interaction. We can both expect and demand more from them than from children.

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Starting off with 0 knowledge of the history, meaning and purpose of traditional roles, nice.

Do you need an applause for that, little faggot? Does your desk job give you this much self-confidence?

Not our fault if you don't have kids and/or a house with a big exterior.

Again, not our fault.

You really think having BOTH a father and a mother who doesn't interact with her kids for 2/3rds of a day (and being too tired to interact with them for the latter half of the 1/3rd of it remaining) is a viable family model? Assuming, of course, you have kids, in which case you sound like you don't or didn't even plan to. Enjoy your feminist kids that will abandon you in an elderly care home for showing too much privilege.
At the very best, in a hypothetical scenario she can be self-employed until the kids grow up at an age at which it's acceptable to leave them alone for the majority of the day. It's quite easy these days to open a private business by yourself, by just buying materials for e.g. fashion accessories like bracelets, wallets, bags etc., without having her work outside the home.

Again, grade A parenting.