Rule the Wa/v/es: Round 2

Parker Evans
Parker Evans

Old Thread Here (for another hour tops): Torrent Link (allegedly safe): rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=69883534#69883534

For those of you rejoining us, we're right where the last thread left off. For those just now joining us, allow me to bring you up to speed. We're playing a campaign of Rule the Waves, a 1900-1925 naval simulator. We take control of a nation's (in this case Japan) navy and command it into battle, as well as make decisions between turns that influence things such as our budget, our personal prestige and other nations relationship towards glorious Nippon. The game has two halves, a GS-ish screen where we pass turns at one month per turn, and a battle mode where each turn represents one minute.

Last time on Rule the Wa/v/es
we select Japan, no one is surprised
we learn that Japan features a second class navy
despite knowing full well that Russia outguns us, we provoke them into war
our initial attack goes poorly, losing a Destroyer (DD) for a coastal fortification (LT)
in a coastal defense, we bleed the Russians for a few armored cruisers (CA)
during that battle, we discover that a Japanese merchantman led a Russian battleship (B) through a minefield
Russian B is kill
for the next few month we avoid large scale battles and whittle down the Russian support elements (DD, CL/CAs)
Russia surrenders, and we're awarded ownership of Sakhalin, our northernmost territory
Great Britain gets pissy, demands we disarm
while we refuse, they manage to get all nations to agree to a Arms Treaty, severly limiting the size of ships for the next 12 years
Russia, clearly suffering from vodka-induced memory loss, goes to war with us again
our nighttime raid on Port Arthur goes swimmingly, sinking 2 Russian Bs and a CA

Now we face a angry but injured Russian Navy in our home waters. What more, with tensions elevated between us and Great Britan, they've moved a section of their fleet into our waters. If anyone required additional information, please request in thread.

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Gavin Thompson
Gavin Thompson

It's time.

Henry Gonzalez
Henry Gonzalez

Shall we take the fight to them, or wait it out?

Blake Hall
Blake Hall

Wait

Cameron Baker
Cameron Baker

L-O-D-S OF E-M-O-N-E

Let's hope I remember how to bold

Thomas Long
Thomas Long

Can our battleship advantage win that fight?

Jordan Stewart
Jordan Stewart

let's make their dream come true

also i'd like to register my displeasure at how few torpedo tubes our ships have

Ethan Cox
Ethan Cox

Is this an acceptable design?

Easton Roberts
Easton Roberts

Remove the torpedoes and see if we can either up armour the conning tower or add more ammo for our main guns.

Matthew Russell
Matthew Russell

10 rounds per gun are added as well as 2 inches of CT armor.

We need a ship name.

Nathan Perez
Nathan Perez

Seconded

We don't need torps on a battleship

Nolan Kelly
Nolan Kelly

ship name

3DPD

Jeremiah Green
Jeremiah Green

Hirohito's chin chin

Luke Bell
Luke Bell

Benis

Christopher Bennett
Christopher Bennett

heh

No, right?

Julian Thompson
Julian Thompson

no

Ian Lopez
Ian Lopez

sink 2 BBs and 1 CA
pls gibe white peace
We're just getting started

Benjamin Hughes
Benjamin Hughes

Y/N?

Blake Jenkins
Blake Jenkins

DESTROY

Connor Torres
Connor Torres

those BBs have eight 12" guns apiece, right?

N

Blake King
Blake King

It's worth mentioning that those estimates are not for sure what will take place in the battle, just what is generally in the area. For example one of their B's might be in port restocking coal, or a destroyer division might be out on patrol elsewhere.

Tie-breaker pls.

Eli Watson
Eli Watson

Y

Just don't dive into a 5 BB battlegroup head on

Brody Moore
Brody Moore

Pussies.

On the other hand, DFS will get to hunt.

Blake Hughes
Blake Hughes

redeclare war
decline battles

Charles Morales
Charles Morales

I almost feel bad almost

Matthew Foster
Matthew Foster

get btfo
get scared
japs won't gib peace

Josiah Hall
Josiah Hall

That ship kind of looks better than ours. We have bigger guns, but he has twice as many, plus torpedos. Probably faster too.

Ian Martinez
Ian Martinez

The weather turns bad as night falls and the CL gives us the slip.

In lighter news, we finally figure out 12" guns.

Actually, not so much. 3" are basically only useful against unarmored ships.

Benjamin Myers
Benjamin Myers

With a displacement of 6300? I doubt he's faster. Also to note is he may have more guns, but they're only 3 inch guns, the likes of which would probably tickle our CA.

KILL HIM. EASY PREY.

Asher Price
Asher Price

no support vessels
Lets gut 'em
What's an AMC?

Elijah James
Elijah James

12" guns

it's fucking time lads

our DDs have 2 torpedo tubes each? let's go for it

Angel Gray
Angel Gray

And AMC I think is an Auxiliary Mine Clearer? They're basically merchant ships with guns slapped on em, which means they're usually unarmoured.

They're effective raiders because they "sneak" up to the merchant boats thinking that he's one of them then they get a rude surprise.

Blake Perry
Blake Perry

Armed Merchant Cruiser
They're basically merchant ships with guns slapped on em

slight delay on update

Christian Martinez
Christian Martinez

Is the installer not working for anyone else? I get to the screen where you enter the license key but it won't let me continue.

Xavier Lewis
Xavier Lewis

Did you put the key in? It's in the name of the exe.

Austin Scott
Austin Scott

Slightly off topic
but are there any similar games for WW2 naval battles?

Alexander Foster
Alexander Foster

(71PZ1L-3UNMNM6J-BRJ5B21)

Kayden Harris
Kayden Harris

It would appear to be a pair of Russian battleships with a light destroyer escort. We have 4 CAs and 6 DDs armed with torpedo tubes.

Julian Stewart
Julian Stewart

fuck em up

Jeremiah Rogers
Jeremiah Rogers

Let 'er rip
Slavs fear the samurai

Easton Miller
Easton Miller

I know, I entered the key, but the next button is still greyed out.

Thomas White
Thomas White

Did you fill in the business and name fields?

Isaac Roberts
Isaac Roberts

We start to take hits, although we do land some in return. Another 3 ships are spotted on the horizon, although we are unable to determine what they are yet. They do seem to be keeping their distance though.

Wyatt Phillips
Wyatt Phillips

I tried again and it worked this time. I was pretty sure I had the key right last time though.

Carter Martinez
Carter Martinez

We sink a destroyer that gets too confident. The enemy fleet is approaching rapidly, should we pick up the crew?

Benjamin Kelly
Benjamin Kelly

what can we do with them if we do?

William King
William King

I'm actually not entirely sure, although I know they do award Victory Points.

Jason Torres
Jason Torres

We should concentrate our ships on the things that are still trying to kill us.

Ryan Morgan
Ryan Morgan

lets pick em up then

Zachary White
Zachary White

Seems risky wot with the BB's potentially moving within range.

Then again it's only a gamble with one DD.

I'm not helpful.

Matthew Morgan
Matthew Morgan

Leave them to their fate, we're gonna need all the DDs we have to do a torpedo run on the Bs.

Can't afford to have one as a sitting duck trying to grab a negligible amount of extra points.

It gives you points after the battle is finished.

Ayden Scott
Ayden Scott

no mercy

Asher Ward
Asher Ward

oh just points? and not alot? we should jsut leave em then

Sebastian Thompson
Sebastian Thompson

Agreed fuck em if they're not valuable.
I was thinking they could be some sort of leverage or something.

Jordan Richardson
Jordan Richardson

The early hit that SAG took gets worse. We've managed to lose the enemy battlegroup and night is approaching. It may be possible to sneak in and destroy our bombardment target under the cover of darkness. Or we can withdraw, taking the 1 for 1 exchange.

Luke Cox
Luke Cox

I say we get out

Lincoln Kelly
Lincoln Kelly

pull out

Christopher Phillips
Christopher Phillips

go in

Benjamin Richardson
Benjamin Richardson

Go in for the kill, you pansies.

Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall

RIDF pls go

Jayden Taylor
Jayden Taylor

Why does she have a bandolier full of ammo for a gun she doesn't have, and no extra ammo for the gun she does have?

Colton Mitchell
Colton Mitchell

We go for a middle ground option, advancing cautiously while using DD to scout out the wings. No enemy ships are spotted and we begin to approach the target.

Samuel Bailey
Samuel Bailey

not keeping your waifu close
disposable rocket launcher

Anthony Stewart
Anthony Stewart

not throwing bullets at your enemies

Christopher Russell
Christopher Russell

no ships spotted
And yet this faggot wanted to run. Hit the target then stroll out the front door.

Joseph Russell
Joseph Russell

what happened to the enemy battlegroup?

Christopher Sanchez
Christopher Sanchez

Didn't we recently get the 'cross deck fire' technology?
Is it too late to put our secondary guns in turrets to take advantage of that?

Benjamin Butler
Benjamin Butler

For the ships in commission, yes. We can always make new ones, though.

Caleb Baker
Caleb Baker

To
Is correct, we cannot install entirely different fire mounts to existing ships, we would have to make a new design.

Cruiser actions are small engagements, usually only a division or two.

Evan Gray
Evan Gray

Can't we retrofit them with new main guns that can into crossfire?

Angel Smith
Angel Smith

Here's an example of a late game ship that utilizes cross deck fire.

Elijah Torres
Elijah Torres

No, that would take mechanisms that only came into being in the mid 1930s.

Brayden Morris
Brayden Morris

go for it

let's put that torpedo advantage to work

Connor Carter
Connor Carter

God damn Russians are a bunch of pussy ass motherfu…

Uh oh.

Adam James
Adam James

Admiralanon! Admiral user!

How is it possible to make a good rebuild design? Every time I finish mine and try to give the order to rebuild a ship, it says there are no design available even after I just finished a redesign. Are there some elements I cannot change in ships?

Dominic Young
Dominic Young

3BB
5B
9DD
Nay skip that shit.

Benjamin Parker
Benjamin Parker

no

Dominic Rivera
Dominic Rivera

Hold on. BB is the US classification code for post-1920s style battleship designs. It wasn't even the 1910s last thread, how has Russia got ships this modern out on the field?

Isaac Thompson
Isaac Thompson

We had a small time of peace after we BTFO the russians, in peacetimes time goes faster to the point several years can pass in just a few turns.

Christian Clark
Christian Clark

This looks a little better. Y/N?

Daniel Gonzalez
Daniel Gonzalez

crush them

Ayden Martinez
Ayden Martinez

banzai

Samuel Young
Samuel Young

Let's do it.

Colton Phillips
Colton Phillips

Fuck em up

Landon Baker
Landon Baker

Do you guys want me to accept/decline uncertain automatically battles so we don't have to do a round of voting only for Russia to pussy out?

Leo Brooks
Leo Brooks

Use your discretion as to what is 'uncertain' and a likely autodecline by Russia, but keep us posted on them, obviously.

Lucas Cruz
Lucas Cruz

ye

Christopher Russell
Christopher Russell

Remember that our CA have the same calibre as our B ships so that battle would be closer to 6v4 Battleships than 2v4

Christian Sullivan
Christian Sullivan

We outnumber them immensely in Cruisers. DO IT!

Daniel Flores
Daniel Flores

Russia declines again, but accepts the next.

Our cruisers spot a lone Russian CL, but is it simply the scout for a larger force?

Ian Flores
Ian Flores

wherever we go we must also rape

Ryder Bennett
Ryder Bennett

Likely a scout. I suggest a cautious approach, don't rush straight at them, wheel closer with their T crossed. It's no great loss if they rejoin the main formation, since light cruisers seem to be terribly unuseful as anything other than convoy raiders by design and won't affect a line battle or kiting gun duel.

Jackson Wood
Jackson Wood

While we can't move our destroyers in, our CAs are fast enough to keep pace and whittle the CL down with 10" rounds. After a hit, the CL begins slowing down, likely having suffered a hit to its engine rooms. So far no other enemy ships have been spotted.

Anyone else having to enter CAPTCHA every other post?

Jaxon Perry
Jaxon Perry

As dusk falls, the enemy ship begins to take ever mounting damage and is reduced to 5kts. Our destroyers wait, hoping they'll get a chance to launch torpedoes, but we'll probably just use the CA to keep range from the wounded vessel.

Robert Baker
Robert Baker

Despite a full torpedo run from the Smug Anime Girls, the CL avoids them all, but sinks soon after.

We now enter a "Destroyer Action", a type of battle I've yet to actually see. At our command is two divisions of Smug Anime Girls. Our opponent seems to have brought alot to the party.

Blake Hall
Blake Hall

here we go

Justin Smith
Justin Smith

give em the big 3 inch

Alexander Gomez
Alexander Gomez

We outnumber them by a ship, but how do we compare qualitatively? Do we have the guns, torps, or armor to set up a line battle, or do we need to try something tricky and wait for a night attack,driving into the midst of them?

Owen Diaz
Owen Diaz

I'm going to suggest we retreat on this one. These are our first generation DDs, and are fairly under-gunned compared to the Russian models.

Tyler Bailey
Tyler Bailey

let's bounce then

David Clark
David Clark

first generation

run like the wind

Brandon Hernandez
Brandon Hernandez

We've broken LoS. It is possible we could come back in a few hours in hopes of a night raid on Port Arthur. Or we could retreat.

Decision?

David Sanchez
David Sanchez

Stage a lightning night raid. Only go in long and deep enough to sling torpedoes at everything in sight and then get straight out. Don't get tied up for anything.

Angel Flores
Angel Flores

Would it be a wise choice to scrap our first generation Smug Anime Girls to make way for a more modern one? Or is the upkeep minimal?

Henry Robinson
Henry Robinson

let's risk it

ship construction is slow and expensive

Colton Williams
Colton Williams

Keep them. Obsolete ships can always be relegated to convoy escorts and anti-sub patrols.

Gavin Peterson
Gavin Peterson

We try, don't find anything.

Gotta go for the night, will take a shower then check the thread. Make any requests for information now, I'll answer before going to sleep.

Blake Baker
Blake Baker

How do I git gud at fleet combat? Currently playing as Italy, already a decade in. I got in a war with France, won some minor territories, then lost those territories in a war with Britain, and now I managed to piss off Germany while the majority of my Battleships are from the beginning of the game. I feel destroyers have more use than AI support that just follows my main group, but attempts to micro to torpedo range usually just ends in pain.

Isaac Sanders
Isaac Sanders

Enemy ships will generally veer away from destroyer lines, fearing torpedoes. You can use this to force them to adjust course, perhaps allowing slower ships to close the distance. As Italy, you can make most of your ships short range, which can let you improve firepower, armor of speed above nations that have colonial obligations.

Kayden Miller
Kayden Miller

How are our techs? Where are we deficient, where ought we prioritize? Are we getting to the point where we might be able to theoertically field true battlecruisers able to run-and-gun Russia's BBs with par or better guns & torpedoes, or are they going to be too fragile to risk that kind of action

Christopher Price
Christopher Price

I got a question Admiral user!

Why the fuck haven't you destroyed the Russian Fleet yet you dishonorable little shit. Russians disengaging is no fucking excuse.

Logan Ross
Logan Ross

For some reason, the Arms Limitation treaty seems to have abruptly abandoned. Would we like to build a new, heavily armed Dreadnought? By building in Italian harbors, we can build up to 25,000, and they'll even let us use their secondhand 13" calibre guns.

I know this probably doesn't tell you alot, but here is our research progress.

P-please don't bully me! It's all those Smug Anime Girls fault, they keep missing with their torpedoes!

Ian Brown
Ian Brown

hell fuckin yes we would

Jacob Long
Jacob Long

Surprisingly high machinery development, that.

As long as we can make it reasonably fast and proof it against Russian guns, absolutely. Maybe see how cross-deck fire works on the design, furthermore. I don't imagine we'll have much of any luck against plunging fire, but has their gunnery so far been particularly encouraging?

Alexander Rodriguez
Alexander Rodriguez

I should also add the thought that the way gun turret compatibility works, those thirteen inch guns arbitrarily can't be swapped out, so while this ship will get a little obsolete in the long run, it looks like it might make for a pretty decently armed if a bit too thin-skinned battlecruiser further down the line. Once it gets to be too light for engagement in its own weight class, it'll still be a murderous major convoy escort, furthermore. Go for it, Admiral user.

Hudson Butler
Hudson Butler

Spend some money on building docks so we can bring our shipbuilding capacity up to par with other nations. Every ship built in foreign dockyards is a disgrace and an insult to the potential and capabilities of the superior Japanese race.

Julian Cruz
Julian Cruz

Admiral user is back

We have an issue we need to face, our rising costs. Our current monthly expenses are at a 5,000,000 shekel negative, quickly eating into the large lump sum we were gifted several months ago. The easiest way to lower expenses is to delay construction efforts, or to mothball active ships.

What, if any, of our currently constructing ships should we put on hold? Note that we have been at war with Russia again for 9 months so far.

tfw you hit post, leave for 15 minutes to let replies build up, then come back to a captcha request

John Ward
John Ward

Just delay construction until it lines up for us to complete a bunch of ships just before our savings deplete

Connor Hall
Connor Hall

Do we fight, and if so how ballsy do we play it?

Joshua Wright
Joshua Wright

This game is the tits. Why does it not have more marketing? I've pretty much only seen it in your thread (which is why I got it).

Tyler Flores
Tyler Flores

Just look at the presentation, user. The devs don't care about marketing or making money. They just want to make good video games.

It seems that we have more firepower than the Russians with our abundance of CA's. I say we use this advantage to engage the enemy in pitched battle and sweep him from the field. The skills our sailors and their fighting spirit shall overcome any technological or caliber difference between us and them.

Ryder Scott
Ryder Scott

Nice dubs

It would seem in this engagement we've got them outnumbered.

Brandon Barnes
Brandon Barnes

Just look at the presentation, user. The devs don't care about marketing or making money. They just want to make good video games.

But I care about the year or so I could have been playing this shit (and their other similar games). A little bit of profile-raising doesn't have to hurt the quality of the game or eat into the budget.

Lucas Taylor
Lucas Taylor

Current battle situation. Does the Admiralty have any input?

Dominic Moore
Dominic Moore

Also, since you seem to know what you're doing:

Is the CSA on very large a good place to start or should I go smaller/different nation?

Surely we have the speed advantage so their battleships cannot escape? Fuck them up.

Jace Russell
Jace Russell

For my first game I went Italy/Medium. I'd recommend either that or CSA/Medium.

Brody Carter
Brody Carter

Will try that. Many thanks user.

Isaiah Cook
Isaiah Cook

Our Gen 2 Smug Anime Girls turn ahead of their battle line, intending to force the enemy fleet to either advance into torpedo fire or turn away, thus giving our battle line a short term fire advantage.

Nathan Nguyen
Nathan Nguyen

That might have been a bad move. We have forced them to react but now we are forced to react in turn. Since this battle is before 1910, our chances of hitting a ship veering away is very low, so the only logical maneuver is to give chase.

Adam Campbell
Adam Campbell

Wouldn't they just leave a bunch of mines for us to get bombed by?

Owen Allen
Owen Allen

Why does it not have more marketing?
Naval games are super niche and inhabited by the most autistic of people

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

I blanked and forgot to take any meaningful screenshots lately. Our fleets break from one another, finally spotting each other at sunset. While in daylight they would be within gun range, at night we lose sight of them. Should we attempt a close range duel, perhaps with risky torpedo running?

Wyatt Rivera
Wyatt Rivera

Despite a number of close encounters, the battle ends with only one ship sunk, a Gen 1 SAG.

We accept a Cruiser Action, encountering the enemy as dawn begins to fall.

Christian Collins
Christian Collins

Siphon funds from the Kwantung, those lazy fucks aren't doing any real work anyway.

Luis Perez
Luis Perez

Our CAs succeed in destroying the enemy ship, a lone CL. However, under the cover of night it manages to launch a torpedo and hit Dub Folded Steel. She survives, but will be out of action for a few months.

Connor Evans
Connor Evans

Lets go Ruskies, eat some nippon naval cocks.

Christopher Harris
Christopher Harris

It's only going to get better, the Devs have a WW2 expansion in the works it seems (and, from present indications, it's going to be free).

But this lack of marketing?
To them, it's a labor of love, not profit.
They seem to not want to explode their customer base. They are notably active with their base on their forums and seem to enjoy the small environment that they have going.

Basically, this is how games should be made.
Word of mouth (like this thread) is their marketing.
When it's a good enough game, it will be made known.

Camden Carter
Camden Carter

EZ PZ

Sebastian Baker
Sebastian Baker

I assume the updates posted to their website work with that Russian download version's serial key?

Jayden Hernandez
Jayden Hernandez

Yeah, I just did that.

Brody Garcia
Brody Garcia

Interestingly, this is a "Fleet Battle", but Russia did not have any Bs in the area. Despite this, they accepted the fight.

Also, I notice that the "play" is moving pretty slow as more people begin to play the game for themselves. Want me to end this and just have the thread be a general discussion?

Ian Reed
Ian Reed

What year are you at now? If it's close to the end, at least wait it out and post updates like you basically are doing now.

Dominic Taylor
Dominic Taylor

Ivans are used to starvation. We must press attacks harder. BANZAI

Henry Lee
Henry Lee

keep going, we can do both

Ian Peterson
Ian Peterson

We encounter a lone CL and bag it. Unusually the scenario doesn't end. As we head home in the night, we run directly into the entire Russian fleet.

Orders?

Bentley Reed
Bentley Reed

If they really don't have any Bs in the area, this will be a fine turkey shoot. Use our DDs to their full torpedo slinging capacity, keep distance with our CAs and push our Bs into close range.

Juan Walker
Juan Walker

Looks like it's going to be a good stompin'.

Connor Powell
Connor Powell

Naw, I think they have Bs.

Matthew Jenkins
Matthew Jenkins

sheeeeeit

let's stick it out until it starts going south

Brandon Johnson
Brandon Johnson

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING

Carter Bennett
Carter Bennett

Fug. I'd say kill the Bs that are closest and then get the fuck out.

Nathaniel Perry
Nathaniel Perry

Abort mission.

Jacob Clark
Jacob Clark

oh tovarisch

let's try to kill that closest battleship and then exit left

Jason King
Jason King

This is why I'm Admiral and you're not.

Just kidding, one of the Battleships hit a mine while engaging our CAs, the other one was brought down by a torpedo by Namikaze. The rest of the Russian fleet turned tail and ran into the night.

pls surrender

Jacob Miller
Jacob Miller

Russia requests peace and soothing cream for their shattered ass.

Jayden Diaz
Jayden Diaz

press the baka gaijin for hard terms!

Carson Howard
Carson Howard

I say we press them, damn Rooskies will have no choice but to agree.

Ryder Campbell
Ryder Campbell

Hard terms

William Martinez
William Martinez

btfos russia twice and they offer to gibs clay
not going a few more months at it and wiping them out of asia
Baka gaijin scared of Emperors big anime cock, give 'em the full mast or don't go.

Cooper Reed
Cooper Reed

It's only going to get better, the Devs have a WW2 expansion in the works it seems (and, from present indications, it's going to be free).

Holy shit. Link to this news?

Brayden Rivera
Brayden Rivera

We need to go to war with someone who has something to give us. I say we pick a fight with the Americunts, Krauts or Frogs now.

Aiden Bennett
Aiden Bennett

We should bully Italy.

Brody Baker
Brody Baker

It seems war must go on.

Chinpoko nearly destroys the enemy raider, but catches a torpedo. It's a fairly minor hit, but she is forced to break off the chase to stop the flooding.

Wyatt Rogers
Wyatt Rogers

Not yet
We still need to kick the russkies ass.

Connor Perry
Connor Perry

Quick update on our fleet, as well as our kill list so far.

Anyways, I've got to call it for the night.

Christian Morris
Christian Morris

For anons with more experience.

How the fuck do you end a battle? I'm on 504/500 mins and this last fucking destroyer is just doing doughnuts and is next to impossible to even hit.

Assuming there's a way to end a battle early will it still count as a loss for me even though I've sunk more?

Joshua Parker
Joshua Parker

Can you break LoS? If so do that and it will end if it's past the time limit.

Ethan Collins
Ethan Collins

Luckily I just caught the fucker against the coast and set him on fire. Dirty French coward.

Thanks for the explanation though.

I don't suppose you know how to make your ships fire torpedoes? Google says 'sail straight' but that seems to get me torped rather than them.

Jace Turner
Jace Turner

gn thanks for posting op

Matthew Lee
Matthew Lee

good thread, night OP

Zachary Reed
Zachary Reed

Sail straight and you have to be ahead on them somewhat, scenario A generally won't launch, B should. If the enemy ship is stationary, they should launch in either scenario. Remember to check the division target, torpedo range and where on the ship they are located.

Jeremiah Smith
Jeremiah Smith

Thanks again user. I shall remove the baguettes with this new knowledge.

Grayson Taylor
Grayson Taylor

what key is that user, my interest in this is piqued and I don't want to spend 35$ without having tried the game at the very least

Jaxon Baker
Jaxon Baker

It's in the OP you faggot:
rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=69883534#69883534

Scroll down, the download link is in the list. It installs the game, then you can use the serial key with it to get patches. It doesn't look safe, but a few people here have tried it and it's okay.

Xavier Wilson
Xavier Wilson

I read through the rest of the thread like a dumbass. Thanks user.

Jordan Bennett
Jordan Bennett

34 dolarydoos for this game?
Isn't that a bit much?

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