Dawn of war 3 despair

John Lewis
John Lewis

They released a new gameplay video 3 days ago. This time with UI.

Notice those 3 drop pods above the UI? Those are cooldown based troop deployment methods. Even deploying basic units has aoe damage attached to it.
Units do not react to taking damage, cover takes time to take over as a slow bar loads when your units enter the shield domes, that do not operate until you cap them.
Most units have aoe skills attached to them.
imperial knight is actually pretty vulnerable to melee

MIRIN ASSFAGGOT RTS 40GOYS?

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Jacob Sullivan
Jacob Sullivan

Gabriel is an upfront melee brawler.
It's like the devs came out of LoL. They call them brawlers only there.

Luis Bell
Luis Bell

It's just alpha footage goy

This basically looks ready to ship and it looks god damn awful. I want to kill myself.

Easton Cox
Easton Cox

imperial knight is actually pretty vulnerable to melee
Doesn't that make sense though? I can't imagine that fuckhuge thing being able to do a lot about Terminators whacking its legs with power weapons.

I mean sure it can stomp on them but that's pretty weak relative to a giant cannon and they're not exactly agile. I mean does it have a dick flamethrower because I'm not sure what I'm missing.

Landon Price
Landon Price

Because in the current case those are banshees he is talking about.

Blake Morales
Blake Morales

They don't even have hammy VA…

Colton Martinez
Colton Martinez

Something about the art style puts me off but I can't really tell what it is.

Levi King
Levi King

Wait the Knight is a she?

Tell me he's referring to the machine and not the pilot. I'm sure that's a massive lore-rape right there.

Caleb Nguyen
Caleb Nguyen

It looks like dota2

Thomas Sanchez
Thomas Sanchez

people expecting it to be not shit after seeing the new cover system
come on you guys

Angel Barnes
Angel Barnes

No! You will wake up the autist from last thread

Aiden Evans
Aiden Evans

Who the fuck are the people making this? Who thought this would turn out great?

Chase Martinez
Chase Martinez

Oh she's brown and has tumblr hair too.

Now granted I haven't been keeping up with the newer fluff in 40k but aren't Knights piloted by actual knights from feudal worlds? I rather suspect there aren't many women involved.

Carson Thomas
Carson Thomas

Please don't start that discussion again, you'll summon the hyper-autist defending this idea through idiotic interpretation of a few lore lines.

Levi Brown
Levi Brown

people more or less universally complained that DoW II felt like a fucking Moba
Devs promptly turn DoW III into even more of a Moba

Fuck everything. All I wanted was a semi-decent sequel to DoW 1.

Carson Davis
Carson Davis

The pilot was female, go to 1:48 in the video and the conversation between Gabriel and the female pilot occurs.
That might be it, the art style seems to be too clean and colorful.

Ryan Price
Ryan Price

Ok but those things are able to fly around like naruto extras who are still equipped with power weapons. I would imagine they're able to avoid being stomped on even better.

I'm open to input but I don't see why an Imperial Knight would excel at anything other than ranged combat.

Owen Green
Owen Green

Well a quick search tells me there's only one known female pilot and she's rather the exception. Also from more recent fluff and GW has been going to shit with things like removing Slaanesh from Fantasy Age of Skubmar.

Tyler Lewis
Tyler Lewis

looks neat

Levi Foster
Levi Foster

Fucking disgusting. Can't wait for this shit to flop.

Noah Cooper
Noah Cooper

The 40k universe is actually really tolerant when it comes to gender-neutrality.
There are no written laws concerning who can be the head of a noble house, and women hold as much power as men.
The IG is supposed to be 50/50 men and women (Why alienate half the population when your major strength is numbers), but GW seem to favor the idea that it's all men. The only place where men and women are segregated in terms of military is the sisters of battle and the space marines for obvious reasons.

Really I'm surprised they haven't introduced more female characters outside of eldars.

Lucas Long
Lucas Long

But it's even worse. You have to cap the cover to power it up. So it isn't instant, yet everyone and their grandma has assaults that can just jump in or teleport in.
Weren't shields supposed to disrupt teleportation ?

The pilot is a female. They will pull some shit out of their ass and pretend it's normal.
I expect of them to take a major shit on the lore with this game.

She even has stupid smalltalk with Gabriel Fucking Angelos.
That guy who mortal men and space marines stand in awe around. Marines aren't supposed to be very talkative if I remember right.

My explanation is not lore based but hero goes:

By default light close combat units are weak vs vehicles.
And the imperial knights happen to be fuckhuge vehicles that can just stomp infantry.
Additionally imperial knights are described as surprisingly fast. So don't tell me a banshee will dodge out of the way of a running fortress, yet still find a way to chip at it with her blade.

The IG is supposed to be 50/50 men and women
That is a complete lie. Research your facts. I do not know where from some of you pick it up, but it is not common.
Maybe you read the Cain books ? Even he admits that the mixed divisons were a pain in the ass. And books on him are glorified propaganda full of femme fatales and sisters of battle and etc.

Do not spread bullshit around.

Elijah Fisher
Elijah Fisher

Too late, you guys have awoken the autist. I told you dawgs, I told you

Jaxson Nelson
Jaxson Nelson

Everything is going to be fine Holla Forums.

Jose Price
Jose Price

Having had any sort of optimism for Relic after CoH2 in the first place is pretty good.

Blake Reyes
Blake Reyes

Of course it will!

Samuel Morales
Samuel Morales

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
FUCKING MONKEYS PAW

Aaron Kelly
Aaron Kelly

MIRIN ASSFAGGOT RTS 40GOYS
There's already a 40k MOBA though.

Andrew Peterson
Andrew Peterson

It got cancelled
this is the sequel

Tyler Campbell
Tyler Campbell

I believe in Relic.
GW is an entirely different story, tho

Jose Johnson
Jose Johnson

40k fags are never happy
no exceptions
Oh you will eat it up boys, you always do.

Parker Bailey
Parker Bailey

who is this mayonnaise stealer?

Isaac Green
Isaac Green

Reverse image search-chan.

Caleb Parker
Caleb Parker

Implying
Everyone defending this plays ASSFAGGOTS and doesnt know shit about 40K lore.

Relic is dead user

Noah Watson
Noah Watson

The 40k universe is actually really tolerant when it comes to gender-neutrality.
No it isn't
There are no written laws concerning who can be the head of a noble house
Because the Imperium doesn't bother with that sort of niggling little detail
and women hold as much power as men.
And how many of the high lords of terra are women again?
The IG is supposed to be 50/50 men and women
No it isn't
Why alienate half the population when your major strength is numbers
That's tyrannids and they don't put the norn queens on the front line either
but GW seem to favor the idea that it's all men
and they are wrong about their own fluff because?

Jaxon Diaz
Jaxon Diaz

It's ok user. The things you like will get shit sequels soon too.
It's just our turn to suffer now.

Tyler Mitchell
Tyler Mitchell

The IG is supposed to be 50/50 men and women
Absolute nonsense. There are relatively few female-only regiments and even then they're mostly reservists, and mixed regiments vare rare as fuck due to impracticality - when half your regiment gets pregnant, you can't say you're fully battle ready

I mean unless you suck Abnett's cock about his stronk independent womyn, and about how all the men in the regiment are so very respectful and won't fuck a woman if she doesn't want to, etc. (Gaunt's Ghosts series are utter shit because he can't fucking write characters and fills his books with Mary Sues).

The 40k universe is actually really tolerant when it comes to gender-neutrality.
More like it doesn't give a fuck. "Can you hold a gun? Yeah? Then out you go, whore, and die for a good cause." but to say that 50% of imperial guard are women is a fucking travesty. Why? Because Imperial Guard conscription is highly decentralised, and each and every planet decides who to send on its own, the only requirement being they send the best of the best (they even have to provide their own equipment). Now, take a guess who's biologically predetermined to be the best of the best when it comes to physical aptitude? That's right - men. Few women would make it into the final cut, and why make a mixed regiment because of a few dykes that made it? Why go with all the issues stemming from it? Also, don't forget that the Imperium has differently developed planets. Some are literally on a pre-world-war level. Think such places will look favourably on sending women to die? In total, relatively few planets go through with conscripting women on a regular basis, and as such, women form a minority in the Imperial Guard.

Connor Roberts
Connor Roberts

But what about the Left tenant from that tps 40K game?

Asher Thompson
Asher Thompson

It happens all the time, I'm not autistic enough to care.
Original games that I like aren't going anywhere.

Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

Nah nigga, it ain't 50/50 but there's a decent enough number that it's no oddity to see female guardsmen or at least no odder than the usual odd in IG

William Brooks
William Brooks

I believe that's the name of the vehicle. In the Imperial Knight supplement only men are capable of piloting Imperial Knights.

Liam Bailey
Liam Bailey

In lore there is class limitation but not really gender limitation, save that all space marines are men and all sororitas are women + some of the assassins cults, then it kind of vary from world to world, but you definitively you can have women commanders, admiral, tech-priestesses, guardswomen… (but it's an exception more than a rule).

But high nobility doesn't mix with nobility who doesn't mix with low nobility, who doesn't mix with middle class, who doesn't mix with low class.

A chapter master is essentially one of the highest ranking peerage there is (on the level of a sector noble if not segmentum), while a knight isn't (planet or sub-sector at best, assuming it's even the head of the house…).

So yeah the chitchat more than the gender of the knight is something out of place.

Colton Murphy
Colton Murphy

Looks bad but I'll give it a pirate. Hopefully Deathwing will be better.

Battlefleet Gothic was great, so even if all else turns to shit, at least I played a good WH40k game this year

Jose Martin
Jose Martin

Welp, I was wrong. They made the Knight pilot female. Awful.

Lucas Stewart
Lucas Stewart

This will have a console release, mark my fucking words. All the signs are there.

Adrian Gutierrez
Adrian Gutierrez

autistic enough to care
It's called not being dead inside yet.

Parker Mitchell
Parker Mitchell

It's shit.

Well done relic.

Brandon Sullivan
Brandon Sullivan

Eh, I mean, from what I remember from the lore, knights are from Knight Worlds, where they form a techoaristocracy, so TECHNICALLY, they could be women.

**i smell stronk womyn no spess muhreen needed out of this one though8*

Jace Wilson
Jace Wilson

Something about the colours bothers me. The models look like they were painted by a novice painter. You know when a tabletop model doesn't have any shading or highlights.

David Powell
David Powell

w40k is a fascist nightmare future where women are only alive to make more soldiers.

They don't serve in the ig and they don't do anything other than shit out babies.

Nathan Perez
Nathan Perez

start video
"Gabriel is a really fun hero to play, a melee brawler"

Literally what you'd hear during an ASSFAGGOTS gameplay video.

Kayden Parker
Kayden Parker

I do remember reading the supplement. It mentioned women in Knight families being married off and never piloting the machines.

David Mitchell
David Mitchell

Which lore are you looking at exactly ? The RPG book nonsense that allows everyone to be a special snowflake ?
but you definitively can have women commanders, admiral, tech-priestesses, guardswomen… (but it's an exception more than a rule).

None of those are imperial knight pilots.
not realizing what noble houses are
not realizing real world inspirations for them
Is 40k just a coat of paint for you ?

Logan Thomas
Logan Thomas

implying I won't just keep playing DoW 1
implying I even own DoW 2

Jordan Howard
Jordan Howard

I'm not too worried yet, this is just campaign footage there might still be hope.

Benjamin Adams
Benjamin Adams

And here we see someone going through the bargaining stage

Jason Gomez
Jason Gomez

Oh well, must've missed it then. I don't really mind a female Knight though, if she's properly murderous and zealous like the males.

which she obviously won't be, since #current_year_var

Elijah Lopez
Elijah Lopez

You are only half right. Women are still officially locked out of a lot of things, but generally not due to being women. Unofficially however, it's a might makes right setting, so women rarely end up at the top of command chains.

One thing you and just about every other faggot who doesn't really know the setting and only knows the universe from the games gets wrong is referring to the Imperium as a homogenous entity. The Imperium does not dictate much on planets, especially not minor ones. There are plenty of feudal worlds that have never seen a lasgun, farmworlds where people live and die of old age and have never seen a war or a xeno. As long as they pay the tithe and don't do anything heretical, the Imperium doesn't really give a shit. Hence this shit varies from world to world, there are surely a few planets where, by law, women occupy most positions of power.

Either way that doesn't matter, since DoW and most media set in WH40k will deal with SPEHSMEHREENS and all the big war stuff, in which things are more standardized.

w40k is a fascist nightmare future
women are only alive to make more soldiers.

No on both. Most humans haven't even seen a xeno, spacemarine, or daemon. This grimdark shit only applies to what we get to see, a sizeable chunk of the human population has never even seen a war. Hive cities are shitholes but not much worse than what you get in a real world third world country (except for the underhive, but not everyone lives there).

Henry Sanchez
Henry Sanchez

This
Just look at how many faggots here ended up buying total wawa

Nathan Green
Nathan Green

Total WaWa looked and is actually good though.

Ayden Gomez
Ayden Gomez

total warscape
good
I refuse to accept it.

Ian Ross
Ian Ross

are these supposed to be bad things? its not like dawn of war 1 was the greatest rts ever. all things considered it was another shallow build order simulator with rock paper scissors elements.
how the hell are intuitive gimmicks that raise the skill ceiling a bad thing?

Connor Morales
Connor Morales

No synch kills aside from bigger units
Actual physics
No pointless micros
No blobbing aside from extensive amounts of units
You can stay in denial all you want.
Its second only to Shogun

Colton Kelly
Colton Kelly

Heres your reply

Asher Perez
Asher Perez

something tells me you didnt get in to dawn of war as a fan of rts

Thomas Bailey
Thomas Bailey

Actual physics
warscape
Actually not possible.

Logan Davis
Logan Davis

Yes they are bad. Review this entire series as to why.

Bentley Reyes
Bentley Reyes

Hive worlds are more the shitty urban parts of second-world China, with the underhive as the Kowloon Walled City if it were the hollow spaces in the foundation of a megaconstruction. Otherwise, this is pretty much accurate, although how far the slant of peaceable worlds to the warfront goes really depends on who you ask. The Galaxy is a big place, but there's only so many places in that space to go to conquer, sack, pillage, raid and ruin, and there's always pirates to consider. Certainly, when it comes to land invasions, they're scarcer. Also worthy of considering is that, unmolested or no, most worlds are going to be in their equivalent of a war economy to meet said tithes unless they are particularly prosperous, one should think.

Xavier Baker
Xavier Baker

(Why alienate half the population when your major strength is numbers)

Not for very long if they send all the women out to die.

Carson Sanders
Carson Sanders

Dawn of War was my introduction to 40K.
Fuckoff with our bait

Stay in denial all you want.
Its good.
Im not buying it regardless

Alexander Gomez
Alexander Gomez

Review this entire series as to why.
why should i when ive played them all?

Jackson Parker
Jackson Parker

its bait because i dont want a part of this whiny circlejerk?

Jose Johnson
Jose Johnson

ITT Fags still discussing this upcoming heap of filth
not discussing this instead

inb4 IGN
it's the only footage that has the least amount of faggots commentating

Chase Hughes
Chase Hughes

Oh God. Oh dear Lord, we don't deserve any salvation. Send this world to the deepest depths of hell so we can just rot without end until there's nothing sacred left to be defiled.

I was(wrongly) excited about this game. I thought that well, now that it is VERY NOTICEABLE that people disliked DoW II and made very specific remarks about what went terribly wrong and pointed out what they loved about the first game and what they would like to see in the third one every chance they had, be it in forums, critics, or videos, things would get fucking better. YOU KNOW, THAT THING WHERE YOU LEARN ABOUT PAST MISTAKES, LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE INTEREST IN BUYING YOUR PRODUCT AND CREATE GOOD CONTENT??? WELL, THINK AGAIN FAGGOT, IT'S 2016 :^^^^^^^^^^)))))))))) YOU DON'T GET GOOD CONTENT, YOU GET A FUCKING IDIOT AND A SLUT PLAYING WHAT IT WILL BE YET ANOTHER GODDAMN FAILUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Henry Adams
Henry Adams

Its good.
no u
Tell me when I can annihilate spearmen with a head-on heavy cavalry charge because they're not in formation and haven't braced.

Lucas Harris
Lucas Harris

Go spread you autistic rage somewhere else faggot

Anthony White
Anthony White

muh pretty officahfu
She's fucking trash. Look at the officers from more lore adherent stuff and you see some hard faced scarred up cyborg motherfuckers and this is just as true for the female inquisitors or sisters of battle.

Isaac Perry
Isaac Perry

Also worthy of considering is that, unmolested or no, most worlds are going to be in their equivalent of a war economy to meet said tithes unless they are particularly prosperous, one should think.
How are the logistics of the imperium in regard to being capable of funneling enough resources off worlds distant from a warzone to justify a war economy? I can't imagine a hive world on the ass end of the Imperium's borders being able to contribute much of its industrial capacity to the war effort

William Sanchez
William Sanchez

oh great this is still being developed? it fell off the face of the earth for a couple years. looking good

Camden Clark
Camden Clark

Pointless MOBA tier micros
Cooldown based heroes/ legendary units instead of Relic caps and base building which need to be defended
Raising skill ceiling
DoW rock paper scissors
Fuckoff with your bait, you havent played shit, that can tell

Gabriel Lopez
Gabriel Lopez

Considering that the devs themselves are mostly unknown (their most 'famous' game is E.Y.E), it's not much of a surprise why it fell of the earth

Carson Edwards
Carson Edwards

then get your head out of your ass

Tyler Williams
Tyler Williams

They have a publisher and they havent updated us with gameplay another trailer for some months now.

Jacob Russell
Jacob Russell

why are you so desperate to believe that?

well it looks like they put heart in to that trailer, i hope the game holds up

my heads not in my ass, i just dont care that you are upset about the direction the game is in.

Lucas Gonzalez
Lucas Gonzalez

Well there are but it's mostly shit
Just look up the gameplay of Space Hulk: Deathwing and you will see what I mean, I chose embed related since it's the least annoying

Cameron Foster
Cameron Foster

You can, check gameplay footage and analysis.

Great argument
Filtered :)

Kayden Baker
Kayden Baker

Streum on is a small studio, and Focus is an indy editor with a very small structure.
They don't have the cash to pay all those upstanding journalists to demo games, nor spend time to make trailers and shit while there is actual work to be done.

Thomas Russell
Thomas Russell

I think the devs will deliver though, E.Y.E has a lot of reference to WH40k (from the lore to the design) and I have as much faith into streum on as much as taleworlds at the moment in this bleak times

Luis Stewart
Luis Stewart

check gameplay footage and analysis
Care to point me at some?

Bentley Jones
Bentley Jones

Gameplay doesnt take too much time or effort especially raw one, but I guess Streum On is working hard on something thats probably unfinished and Focus is focusing on the Technomancer.

I just hope they announce something by Eugen Systems at GamesCom.
They make really fucking good RTS/RTT games and they have two projects in development.

Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell

Gabriel's sexy manly voice is gone
That's pretty much enough heresy to make me wish Exterminatus on the whole world.

Connor Ward
Connor Ward

Eugene Systems 40k
Please yes. The deck system they have could be the perfect translation of the tabletop game.

Jaxon Ross
Jaxon Ross

exactly, thats the kind of people you want making a game like this. those who clearly have a hardon for it in the first place

Logan Morris
Logan Morris

WH40k with the scope and size of the Wargame series
Holy shit just thinking about it makes me hard

Austin Ross
Austin Ross

And to add to that, why does the faggot who narrates keeps saying "My", "Mine", "I'm" on the units when he isn't even fucking playing.

Elijah Diaz
Elijah Diaz

Open wide

Aaron Phillips
Aaron Phillips

I really hope these developers' careers wither away. Clearly they have no business creating anything
we want to do an ASSFAGGOTS clone #1751
no, you're tasked with Dawn of War 3
fine, we'll do DoW 3 but we'll make it look and play like an ASSFAGGOTS

Anthony Morales
Anthony Morales

Maybe, Battleflee Ghotic was a success in Focus Homes eyes.
Would make sense since they hold the license.

I hope the other project is something Wargame related.
eugensystems.com

Tyler Myers
Tyler Myers

Jesus Christ, three minutes in and I don't think I can bother watching further. I hate the demonstrators' whiny voice, I hate the fact that it's a straight rerun of the demo we've already seen, I hate that it reveals that there's some kind of pseudo-MOBA wave shit in what looked like him clicking Gabriel forward and the army autofollowing seemingly without any further micro- feel free to look over it further, I'm not going to right this moment, but that's what it immediately appeared to be- and worst of all, Gabriel is voiced by some uninteresting dullard rather than Paul Dobson. It's not even Brian Dobson if I'm hearing right, who filled in for him in vanilla DoW II for who knows what reason. I don't know who that is, maybe it's Michael Dobson, I wouldn't know.

Not great. Having your FTL system be dependent on going through the Warp, the space equivalent to the Bermuda Triangle- except in a galaxy wide parallel dimension which is in fact the collective consciousness hellscape of the tortured psyches of said entire galaxy- and also occasionally end up with said dimension bending time and space in uncontrolled fashions so that you come out early or late, with the most extreme examples being millenia at a time, and sometimes simply swallowing you up, makes a troubling prospect for shipping. The Warp is, of course, mappable and navigable as a kind of three or four-dimensional ocean, but that's still not great to work with even with third-eyed mutant superpsyker Navigators navigating. Still, you need as much materiel going out as you can.

This is part of the reason why you find so many worlds in the Imperium are hyperspecialized and their tithes arranged around this, beside making for great sci-fi thematics & aesthetics. Agri worlds tithe food. Forge worlds tithe industrial products. Less specialized but well-developed worlds tithe some mixture or another, or perhaps a resource of note. Undeveloped worlds are likely to tithe manpower, since they have nothing else to offer, all the way down to feral worlds bringing up regiments of Conan the Barbarian strongmen. Then there's always oddballs like the Knight Worlds, which are food or mining-centric colonial worlds that survived the Dark Age of Technology, but were knocked back to a feudalistic societal model, with the knights in question using miniature titans to protect and/or lord over the enserfed. If you can imagine it and it isn't too flagrantly heretical, it exists somewhere in the Imperium. And if it is too flagrantly heretical but not outright Chaotic, then you can expect the Ministorum to come in and set up a syncretism to get the locals in line.

Regardless of efficiency, the Imperium is at war with everything around it, ceaselessly, because generic xenos are bastards who want to carve a piece out of Man's pie, and the heretics are bastards who want to fuck up the Emperor's shit, and the Eldar are tsundere bastards trying very hard not to die or fail to prevent universal calamity in varying measures, and the Orks just want to fuck up everything, so on. The Imperium is in a state of total war at all times. Those worlds which are at relative peace and have not been forgotten by the Administratum (which happens a lot more often than you'd think) are definitely going to be in a total war footing if they aren't some foo foo resort world. Even Shrine Worlds assuredly have sweatshops producing holy scripts, purity seals, unguents and the like. That's my take on it, at least. Mind that 40k is to a great degree a make-your-own-headcanon, as it rather has the old Star Wars arrangement of varying degrees of canonicity. Not nearly so formalized as the Star Wars canon, mind, because GW is pants on head retarded and doesn't care, but it's the best description I can come up with.

Ian Foster
Ian Foster

Why did they make the animations worse than in 2?
Why doesn't the line infantry move more naturally like in 2?
Why are there even less races now?
Where's the fucking cover?
fuck
I want to like this but I can't

Alexander Sullivan
Alexander Sullivan

Battlefleet Gothic was a success
I guess, I haven't played it though since I'm not into spaceships

Also this is what I despise about Holla Forums, they know a game is shit yet they won't shut their yap about it being shit, not until it released then, hell even after it's released Holla Forums will still bitch and moan on why its bad and make a this game is shit thread #3245 ad infinium, and after all that shit there is STILL someone who played it on fucking Holla Forums
Yet when a good game is presented upon them, it will only have a minimal discussion

Lucas Sullivan
Lucas Sullivan

It looks like a moba. I have doubts it's going to be good.

The Imperium in it's current state is the HRE, a massive clusterfuck of people who are only holding together because their raw contempt for everyone else.

The only two groups who actively enforce Imperial law are the Inquisition and the Arbites, and they only really do gross breaches of conduct. The rest is up to the planets themselves to make their own laws.

One could say pre-heresy Imperium was functionally like Rome, but that time is long past.

Michael Robinson
Michael Robinson

dev outright comes and tells you he has ASSFAGGOT influence in an RTS game, then proceeds to call heroes brawlers like they do in league of legends
hero skills now more pronounced early game
makes graphics cartoony to give *clarity*
every effect is so bright hammers leave a trail of gold when units swing
mass battles a clusterfuck even worse than before
gives lore inaccurate skills to heavy terminator armored unit(leaping around)
distinct squad behavior, characteristic to older titles - gone
squads no longer behave like DoW1 or 2 ones, but more like starcraft units that have only 2 animations: run,shoot and downed
squad control is now less important
it's more important how many aoe circles you put on your enemy and how many you dodge
And you don't notice this ? You don't notice how this game will be DoW in name only ?

I bet you like the new ork design too, you pleb.

Tyler Smith
Tyler Smith

We discussed it a shitton before launch though.

Evan Hall
Evan Hall

cavalry are locked into combat with enemies 1/3rd their size
enemies glide on contact and some inexplicably fly away seconds after the charge ended
Wew, I see they're still using the Rome II interns.

Leo Perry
Leo Perry

DoW 2 was fun to coop with a buddy and I was hoping to get something like it but less linear.
Now it looks like we will just get a fucking ugly barebones version of retribution as a campaing with cover and a load of other shit removed.
What a time to be alive.

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

Yet when a good game is presented upon them, it will only have a minimal discussion
We had BFG generals for a long ass time

The problem is that once you beat the game, the multiplayer is almost unbearable in terms of grinding you need to do to unlock ships and what not
I'd rather have campaign DLC

Aaron Parker
Aaron Parker

i dont want the same game that i already played the hell out of when i could just go back and play that, how is that so hard to understand?

Carson Cruz
Carson Cruz

If it wasnt an ASSFAGGOTS influenced turd it would be the same game as before
Look at all this damage control

Sebastian Price
Sebastian Price

Go play a different title then, faggot.

Luke Brown
Luke Brown

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why cant we have nice things?

Luis Wright
Luis Wright

why should i? im getting what i want
getting mad at me isnt going to change anything

Austin Watson
Austin Watson

call it MOBA shit before watching gameplay when I saw the first demo
watch the demo
w-well, maybe it's not, looks like an RTS
watch this shit
mfw I was right all along

Tyler Jenkins
Tyler Jenkins

user, atleast we have Ultimate Apocalypse and Titanium wars for Soulstorm and Dark Crusade. The only thing that is better than DOW III

John Clark
John Clark

:o

Kevin Peterson
Kevin Peterson

Facebook memes
/cuckchan/index.html

Caleb Hill
Caleb Hill

being angry at the image of a frog god

Elijah Brooks
Elijah Brooks

/cuckchan/index.html

Zachary Turner
Zachary Turner

maybe you should post your own REEE frog to express your discontent
haha REEEE thatll learn em

Oliver Reyes
Oliver Reyes

I'd rather have campaign DLC

Oh, how far we've fallen…

Eli Gray
Eli Gray

Base game is complete though

Christopher Anderson
Christopher Anderson

Stay mad, cripplecucker

Samuel Wright
Samuel Wright

It's strange that normalfags love the frog and it seems no one really posts the poopoo peepee edits anymore. Shouldn't we reclaim it like the negros and their slurs?

Chase Thomas
Chase Thomas

Pepe is already reclaimed

Asher Peterson
Asher Peterson

Pretty meh. At least DoW1 will be modded forever.

David Perez
David Perez

Go back to your shithole

Pepeand Wojak are dead
Normalfags have claimed it
They're as bad as rage comics

Noah Martin
Noah Martin

Well ok find me the passage in a rulebook where it states that Imperial knights are exclusively male.

If it doesn't exist then it means it's the same as everything else. Possible as long has you write some backstory.
Hell an amazonian themed Knight house could be cool as hell, why the fuck not?

Sure you're triggered because it's one more the strong black womyn trope in vidya which is blatant SJW propaganda, but call it that instead of lore rapping.

Because AFAICT it's not lore raping.

The lore rape is a lowly knight berating a fucking chapter master.

Caleb Gomez
Caleb Gomez

You fucking goons need to leave
Imperial Knights come from feudal societies where women are treated like objects you fucking nigger.
Get the fuck out of here

Angel Ward
Angel Ward

Focus doesn't do shit.
It's an actual editor, they give handled packaged PR, industrial production and some of the business side of things (raising investments funds, outsourcing reach, etc…) they've got a couple of their own IP but outside those they don't fix deadlines or anything, they just take their cut in publishing the game.

That's actually why you can tell that Technomancer will probably be bad. If it has a lot of PR available it means it's the studio doing it… instead of working.

Samuel Scott
Samuel Scott

But Spiders makes alright games

Julian Perez
Julian Perez

that they do

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

All of their games are painfully mediocre

Jeremiah Robinson
Jeremiah Robinson

Who the hell uses 'AFAICT?' Even AFAIK is sparse around here. Shove off, git. And furthermore, from my hazy memory of the original DoW campaign, Angelos readily addressed a mere colonel of the Imperial Guard. I could see him candidly talking with this Knight, if it weren't for the fact that there's no preexisting relationship shown, meaning any they write in even if they try that will be immediately discredited, and the fact that it's not even Gabriel Angelos. He does not have the original voice or the cover voice by the original VA's brother, and his face doesn't really resemble the older game models in the least.

I'm curious as to how strictly the rule/splatbooks delineate it, myself. Feudal they are, but room always exists for the exceptions. Tomboys, the infertile, savants, Joan of Arc analogues, the like. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like this character fits any of those niches, and in fact seems more like a straight-laced, professional pilot than a chivalric woman-at-arms.

Justin Thomas
Justin Thomas

They lack polish, but they arent streamlined garbage.
Just a reminder that the same faggots who shit on their games dismissed E.Y.E for the sole purpose of being overly complex.

The combat system in their games is Bamahn with more depth.

Christopher Young
Christopher Young

Hell an amazonian themed Knight house could be cool as hell, why the fuck not?
Because 40k took inspirations from history, not feminist utopias that vaguely existed.

You didn't need a book to know that female knights are very very very rare exceptions. Why do you need one here ?

Christian Wood
Christian Wood

I could even see the wife of a Lord who gained power by subtily killing the opposition or something.

But Im sure we wont get anything like that, its going to be:

STRONG WOMYN WHO DIDNT AFRAID OF NOTHING ROSE TROUGH THE RANKS OF INFERIOR MAN IN THE IG AND SOMEHOW GOT HER HANDS ON AN HEREDITARY WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION

Noah Gonzalez
Noah Gonzalez

no more hammy VAs
disgusting ASSFAGGOTS mechanics
disgusting ASSFAGGOTS lingo
it's a gameplay combination of current assfaggots with fucking C&C4

THEY JUST HAD TO FALL FOR THE FUCKING ASSGFAGGOTS MEME, AND GOING THE EXTRA MILE TO APPEAL TO THE ESPORTS TRYHARD DUMBASSES, THANK YOU FOR BEING NOTHING SHORT OF FUCKING HERETICS, RELIC

THIS SHIT MAKES ME SO GOD DAMN FUCKING MAD I SWEAR I'M TURNING INTO A FUCKING BLOODLETTER

Luke Sanders
Luke Sanders

Its because he's a leftist and thus he cannot create anything himself. Only corrupt and destroy what already is.

Jaxon Garcia
Jaxon Garcia

You're the ones sperging about lore this lore that when you've never opened a fucking rulebook.

You're the ones that made your own lore in your fucking heads and decided there weren't any women in the knights. Despite the fact that there is no reason not to.

Hurr durr it's feudalism

Knight Worlds are technologically advanced Feudal Worlds.

Since physical prowess isn't required there is not fucking reason women can't be knights, since there is plenty of noblewomen in combat role and leadership in the Imperium.

Because 40k took inspirations from history, not feminist utopias that vaguely existed.

More politcal bullshit. Amazon do exist in Warhammer.

Again keep sperging about lore you don't have a clue about it's entertaining.

Michael Lee
Michael Lee

So I went and checked the codex. And guess what, I'm right she can't address it that way.

Pilots are fused to the machine spirit of the knight, which has mind alteration property.

However, the mind-link technology also directly affects the psyche of the Noble himself, implanting strong positive associations with notions of fealty, obligation and hierarchy, as well as a deep respect for the Noble’s ancestors. How such technology works and why it was originally installed remain a mystery, even to this day. It seems most likely that the mind-altering feedback routines were intentionally designed and installed during the Age of Technology – a safeguard feature meant to limit the potential of a pilot to go rogue or turn upon those he was meant to protect.

A knight will never speak casually to a superior, even less berate.

That's actual lore raping.

Jack Garcia
Jack Garcia

What a waste of trips

Carson Cox
Carson Cox

Low poly, all the indieshit going low poly has that same glossiness to it.

Wyatt Baker
Wyatt Baker

Since physical prowess isn't required there is not fucking reason women can't be knights
Women remain bargaining chips for marriage. Technology does not automatically mean a lack of chronological cultural backwardsness; forge worlds are run by the Cult Machina, not by any secular production authorities. Every factory is itself a temple, albeit one whose rites are entirely production oriented. And Knight Worlds are FEUDAL worlds; all the advanced technology is devoted to bumper crops, strip mining, or arms, the population is literally enserfed. Furthermore, a lack of physical prowess is very much a problem in a universe where humans are reliant on chunky analog tech or else advanced technology that is highly resemblant to chunky analog tech, which occasionally needs a little strong-arming. Neuro-uplinks are fine and dandy, but I highly doubt they aren't paired to a traditional interface in the average Knight.

Amazon do exist in Warhammer.
As a footnote to Lizardman lore and a faction in Blood Bowl, which is not terribly relevant to 40k, and not to Fantasy for that matter. Topsy-turvy worlds may or may not exist in some number, the question is, is this how it is depicted? Clearly not.

A knight will never speak casually to a superior, even less berate.
Grand. Good to have that clarified, genuinely. Nonetheless, you've still failed to present any proper argument for woman pilots being anything other than exceptional. If they are, it's no skin off my bones and a little less off Relic's, but the woman part remains as either a hackish attempt at replicating the relationship between Titus and Nira and/or a diverse throw-in, and the contradiction of knights being neurologically dickered around with to act like proper and idealized chevaliers remains bad, unresearched writing.

Nicholas Hall
Nicholas Hall

Nah.

Dylan Mitchell
Dylan Mitchell

We just told you of the rare exception for a female knight which you couldn't even come up with.
You are the one who thinks we think there are none.
More politcal bullshit.
You are the walking political bullshit who supports everything outside a space marine being a female.
Since physical prowess isn't required
physical prowess isn't required
for knight pilots
All pilots have strict training. Unless you believe their ability to bend the machine spirit to their will happens on a whim.

The last book that I read about the Imperial Knights of House Cadmus assist Mars with obtaining a relic and fighting the Tyranids. One of the members of house Cadmus gets saved by this unknown freelance knight that is hunting down this specific Tyranid to avenge the house (as it was devastated by the same Hive Fleet.) Through the fight the pilot was discovered to be a female which was a HUGE deal in the book. It was briefly explained and strongly stated that it was a male role and that males are trained and implanted with the systems to operate the titans. It was further inferred that the secret would be safe with house Cadmus as this would normally go to a council from the leaders of the other Knight houses for proper punishment. What's more interesting is also the fact that based on the story, this female pilot was fighting with the Titan as it's machine spirit was not very cooperative with her. This further impressed house Cadmus as she had survived as the last member of the house. Fought with skill that matches most males and did this all while having a machine spirit that was not willing to be fully cooperative.

The vast majority of pilots are male. The females are exceptions. I do not get what more you want.

We have 1 named imperial knight in 40k games. This one. The very first. And it's a female. Just because we live in the feminism era the exceptions are on the forefront instead of being actual exceptions.
This is the politics rubbing the agendas in your face.
And fags like you just love it.

Nathan Bell
Nathan Bell

/cuckchan/index.html
Its dead, facebook faggots arent detered by that bullshit anymore

Owen Martinez
Owen Martinez

still arguing with a leftist
lol

Connor Edwards
Connor Edwards

I warned you faggots about the autist, you've made your bed. Now lie in it

Joshua Powell
Joshua Powell

He can't top (50) no matter how much he tries.

Colton Kelly
Colton Kelly

Angelos has auto regeneration

Jaxon Williams
Jaxon Williams

So dont buy it
First of all there's dow1 and firestorm to have 40k fun

Second, dont give those bastards trying to jump on the moba bandwagon a fucking cent. Make this even worse than nudoom's sales

Besides, who will buy it? Real fans wont like it, outsiders usually think dow is a hardcore / too complex / obscure game

Chase Hughes
Chase Hughes

I made it to 0:36.
fun hero to play
he's a melee brawler
hammer slam
hammer spin
hammer jump

Why did they even bother with the "it's gonna be a proper RTS" lie?

Mason Reyes
Mason Reyes

LOOK AT THIS LASCANNONS ARE NOW JUST A BEAM THAT "BUILDS UP IN POWER THE LONGER IT STAYS ON TARGET" BULLSHIT.

its like they havent even read the lore, its such a big oversight.

Cooper Moore
Cooper Moore

Paul Dobson isn't Garbriel Angelos
FUCKING DROPPED

Angel Ward
Angel Ward

Put enough marketing behind it and it'll sell.
The targeted audience is the fucking idiot who buys it, plays it for an hour and forgets that it ever fucking existed, unlerss soime new marketing stunt comes around for the new DLC to remember the idiot of the one hour full of fun to persuade him to buy the DLC.

Jason Johnson
Jason Johnson

Well if in one of the books there is a women why the fuck are you saying it isn't canon?

But it's rare.

So? Space marine and knights are fucking rare. Hell being a space marine chapter with a shitload of psykers is extra special. Maybe they've justified it. I'm fucking sure they're gonna have cringy lines about "you're a women!" "Of course why wouldn't strong womyn exist *wink *wink*" the first time you get the knight.
It's "Company of whiniest little bitch in the history of Russia" that are behind that turd it's not like it's gonna be subtle.

Also.
2016
Thinks black library books are canon.

If books are canon Terminator armor doing backflip is canon, Eldar worship slaneesh (yes all of them) and a classic eldar tactic is to discard their own tanks, steal Leman Russes, then ride in battle hanging to them. And of course ultra-smurf walk on water and resurrect themselves after 3 days.

Again I'm telling you be mad about the fact it's the "strong black womyn with tumblr hair" trope, which is clearly pandering to SJW faggot, because that's why she is there.

But you can't say it's not canon.

If you want to use the canon argument you can say you're mad because she's a black womyn with tumblr hair that they only put there to pander and DOESN'T ACT like a knight.

And you're suddenly perfectly right.

I'm basically giving you the perfect argument to win everywhere they speak about the game and you cunts are getting pissy at me.

Carson Reed
Carson Reed

And suddenly you're no longer a misogynist gamer, but a genuine fan offended to mistreatment of the license you like.

Jace Cooper
Jace Cooper

Pic related is your right now. Except you don't get paid for it.

The only example from what you want is from books you yourself laugh at. Without it there isn't a single case of a female knight pilot.

Misogynist is not an insult here, so why are you bringing it up at all ? Where are you from ?

Austin Lopez
Austin Lopez

You two are full of shit.

Carson Powell
Carson Powell

Oh hey dude, you realize we have ID's right?
You shouldn't quote yourself with your "EPIC FTW [email protected]@11" posts ya shitposting communist.

Carter Hill
Carter Hill

The 40k universe is actually really tolerant when it comes to gender-neutrality.
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
FUCK YOU

THIS!! THIS!!!! THIS!!!!!!

Austin Perry
Austin Perry

ha ha what
i sure am looking forward to warhammer 40k themed strategy game in real time

Lincoln Ross
Lincoln Ross

She's from Cadia.
Everyone learns how to fight on Cadia (just in case).

Female officers do exist and there are females in the IG. It's just not a common site

Josiah Perez
Josiah Perez

That's where I checked out too. Watching a Force Commander with a power hammer and decked in power armor dancing around like a Harlequin is where I draw the line.

You sure that isn't just an Ogryn in cosplay? Casue that is fucking awful.

Samuel Moore
Samuel Moore

Space Marine are super-fast, faggot.

They slap bullets out of the air, approach you quietly like Batman even though they wear a half a ton of power armor, moves so fast normal people have trouble processing.

Not a single game made so far has shown SM's true to lore.

David Garcia
David Garcia

Not even the tabletop game shows them true to lore. Most of the lore in the Black Library books is retarded fan fiction tier shit anyway.

Nolan Reed
Nolan Reed

Might be cool if it's like Wc3. If it's like prior Relic RTS but with heroes "cause kids will love it" then I'm worried. Their games don't feel responsive enough for that.

I don't hate the graphics style. I like my RTS arcadey.

Austin Moore
Austin Moore

Since I don't see any other Warhammer/40k threads up at the moment, I'll just ask here:

Is Mordheim worth getting? The reviews are seriously mixed, but the tabletop is fun and apparently there's a lot of customization.

Sage for tangential.

Mason King
Mason King

He's in terminator armor in there. They have limited basic joint mobility.
They do not leap around.
The thunder hammer is heavy. In normal armor marines wield it with 2 hands to cope with the sheer weight of it. Only terminators can wield it one handed but they are also several times heavier than the norm. 3 tons of armor if I remember right.

They do not leap around.

Christian Allen
Christian Allen

Enemy AI is retarded. Running into walls and standing in place wasting a turn happens often. Even when working as intended they ephemerally only use a straight suicide charge into your chokepoints and ambushes. Loading times are atrocious and lots of trap options with skills that you have to learn. The rest of the game is fun and well done. They got the tone and lore right on the money andd the campaign is fun. Definitely worth a pirate.

Brandon Wood
Brandon Wood

Space Marines are fast when they're not encumbered with armor. Terminators are the slowest (which is why they're so vulnerable in close combat from the sides and rear) but even normal power armor is going to slow them down quite a bit. While it's going to vary based on role, chapter, and armor type, most Space Marines are going to be moving marginally faster than a Guardsman, even if they are significantly more agile.

They AREN'T going to be dashing around at the speed of sound and jumping like Mario.

Connor Watson
Connor Watson

It's sixty percent off and I like supporting small developers. Is it worth it then or should I just pirate regardless?

William Lee
William Lee

I hope the gmae doesnt fail because Dawn of War with its expansions ( excluding Soulstorm ) is the best god damn RTS I've ever played in my entire life
still playing the game to this date

dont jinx it and hope for the best

Christian Harris
Christian Harris

i never wrote "gmae" wtf

Ryder Barnes
Ryder Barnes

I always pirate before buying. Give it a whirl before throwing them your shekels. They are pumping out DLC at a decent clip so be wary of it.

Brody Cook
Brody Cook

They slap bullets out of the air
move so fast normal people have trouble processing.
No, they don't.

Cooper Scott
Cooper Scott

See the problem with the female knight is what some user said before, it should be an exception but instead exceptions become the rule these days

dow2 inquisitor was a woman and it was ok because the ecclesiarchy is farily gender balanced, specially with the sororitas. The eldar have women fighting as well because it's the norm for them, the sororitas is an entire female only military branch of the imperium

but no, they have to break a game's background and basic gameplay for the sake of adapting to current year

Camden Scott
Camden Scott

Relic brings Gorgutz back in the trailers
they immediately kill him off to replace him with a female warboss

Brayden Russell
Brayden Russell

When the game comes out and RTS players hate on it for inserting MOBA bullshit watch them spin all criticism as "misogynist neckbeards hate the game because female knight pilot".
Female titan pilots do exist in the lore btw (in BL and Forge World, dunno about the regular codex and I don't think they were ever mentioned in the old knights lore) but 99%+ of named titan pilots are male, so it's probably just them trying to score progressive points.

Lincoln Nelson
Lincoln Nelson

Literally, i mean literally, everything you said in this post was a straight up lie.
Space marines are heavy, clumsy, unsubtle and NOT fast.

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

It mostly depends on the chapter.

For example Raven Lords are specialized in stealth tactics, while Space Wolves like a loud, unsubtle approach.

clumsy and NOT fast.
That is bullshit, they're genetically enhanced superhumans, and a normal power armor doesn't restrict them much.

Brody Hughes
Brody Hughes

They are fast. They move faster and have better reaction times than regular humans and most xenos, even in armor. They're NOT sanics doing backflips like that guy and the idiots at Relic think.

David Bailey
David Bailey

They move like modern troopers on those heavy tactical armors. Not specially fast but not combat burdened. Plus all the super human abilities

Grayson Parker
Grayson Parker

As has been pointed out (>>9857219), a female knight is possible and there isn't any lore which claims it to be unusual. However, nobility of a single planet has no place giving orders to AdAst, though Gabe's humble enough that he doesn't care to invoke rank.

NOT fast
AdAst aren't dexterous fast, but they're mobile fast. Not fast enough to outrun a vehicle (see: White Scars), but in the upper tiers of on-foot speed.

Jason Thomas
Jason Thomas

Terminators are a hero unit. you can only have one squad of them in game. because there are an hero unit.

Carson Reyes
Carson Reyes

Solaria could be a Freeblade since She does not mention her house and her Imperial Knight does not show her houses' heraldry

Christopher Ramirez
Christopher Ramirez

the only creative input a person has is "what if it was a girl"
nod and agree every single time
May as well buy two parrots and your character design department is set for years.

Carson Rogers
Carson Rogers

No. The only book that has a female knight pilot in it, says that they are extraordinarily rare. To the point where she might be the only exception.
See:
It was briefly explained and strongly stated that it was a male role and that males are trained and implanted with the systems to operate the titans

Dylan Morales
Dylan Morales

Maybe you should read some good 40K books.

Space Marines are fast when they're not encumbered with armor. Terminators are the slowest (which is why they're so vulnerable in close combat from the sides and rear) but even normal power armor is going to slow them down quite a bit.

Power armor uses artificial muscles that interface directly with the nervous system of the astartes. Astartes power armor is NOT slow and cumbersome - that is in part what makes them so deadly. However, games and movies tend to depict the mas slow and cumbersome because the directors know jack shit and because they think it "feels right" for something so big to move slowly. When the entire point of SM's is that they defy common expectations.

==

Transhuman dread. Aximand had heard iterators talk of the condition. He’d heard descriptions of it from regular Army officers too. The sight of an Adeptus Astartes was one thing: taller and broader than a man could ever be, armoured like a demigod. The singularity of purpose was self-evident. An Adeptus Astartes was designed to fight and kill anything that didn’t annihilate it first. If you saw an Adeptus Astartes, you knew you were in trouble. The appearance alone cowed you with fear.==

But to see one move. Apparently that was the real thing. Nothing human-shaped should be so fast, so lithe, so powerful, especially not anything in excess of two metres tall and carrying more armour than four normal men could lift. The sight of an Adeptus Astartes was one thing, but the moving fact of one was quite another. The psychologists called it transhuman dread. It froze a man, stuck him to the ground, caused his mind to lock up, made him lose control of bladder and bowel. Something huge and warlike gave pause: something huge and warlike and moving with the speed of a striking snake, that was when you knew that gods moved amongst men, and that there existed a scale of strength and speed beyond anything mortal, and that you were about to die and, if you were really lucking, there might be just enough time to piss yourself first.

Kayden Anderson
Kayden Anderson

Your move, faggot.

Bentley Gomez
Bentley Gomez

dawnofwar.com/article/community-team-intro

Friendly reminder that women ruin everything.

Tyler Bennett
Tyler Bennett

However, games and movies tend to depict the mas slow and cumbersome because the directors know jack shit and because they think it "feels right" for something so big to move slowly. When the entire point of SM's is that they defy common expectations.
The real reason they do that is to avoid the Movie Marines. If you're playing a RTS or an approximation of the tabletop, you don't want the Space Marine player to plop down eight to ten units and two vehicles while the opposing player is maneuvering a number of troops numbering in the hundreds of thousands.

Even the tabletop has to make concessions with the fluff, else every guard player would have to bring two hundred pounds worth of figures for deployment.

Eli Johnson
Eli Johnson

Tabletop is a games/rules system, not a lore system. It's awfully limited for that reason (1d6 is damn limiting)

Tabletop rules isn't lore. And you can always do the "1 model represents 10 ppl" for guard/orcs/tyranids

Landon Diaz
Landon Diaz

And it's the reason Spess Mehreens aren't fast or agile. Speed is power in an RTS and if you made them fast it would gimp pretty much every faction who doesn't have marines of their own.

Hell, Fleet of Foot is half the reason Eldar broke Dawn of War.

Benjamin Adams
Benjamin Adams

The whole point is to not have to imagine stuff with miniatures. Else people would use cardboard markers for units.
But that ain't fun.

Jack Howard
Jack Howard

I suck at balancing. Therefore it's a problem that has to be removed.

That's bullshit. If you can't work around a problem, find someone that can.

Reduce the number of SM's in-game then. Or don't even bother balancing them. Fuck multiplayer. It ruins so much.

Jonathan King
Jonathan King

you don't want the Space Marine player to plop down eight to ten units and two vehicles while the opposing player is maneuvering a number of troops numbering in the hundreds of thousands.

SEZ WHO???

Connor Green
Connor Green

every time I look into that non existent squad behavior
Those overly glowing skill effects
those nu Orks

A part of me dies inside.
DoW2 got it right, why did they change it to this?

Charles Jenkins
Charles Jenkins

reduce the number of SM's in-game
Then they maintain their DPS for too long and are strong versus AoE attacks. If three Space Marines have the same health and damage has ten shoota boys, the Space Marines will always win because they'll cut down at least three Shootas, thereby cutting down the Ork player's damage output, before losing one of their own.

In Dawn of War, Space Marines were shooty, choppy, moderately tanky, and were highly versatile to boot. If they had been fast as well, they would have been unbeatable for Guard and Tau. They would have forced Eldar and Orkz to go for melee options since the Sanic Marines would chew through Guardians and Shootas like they were paper.

Brandon Morales
Brandon Morales

Well that's some heretical ass shit right there.

Connor Thompson
Connor Thompson

SEZ WHO???

Games Workshop.

Space Marines are the most played faction on the tabletop (particularly with spoilt kiddies). If armies only had 8-10 marines where would they make their money?

Liam Foster
Liam Foster

well that explains everything

Adam Murphy
Adam Murphy

Gotta make the game more accessible, meaning they hope to lure in ASSFAGGOTS players with the graphical style.

Angel Cook
Angel Cook

But why the Orkz? They don't look anything like they do in pretty much every tabletop unit, splatbook, game, Black Library book, spin off, or promotional material.

Logan Howard
Logan Howard

I've not seen what the nuOrkz look like, but I'll venture a guess: they look like Warcraft orcs.

Caleb Carter
Caleb Carter

They don't even
Hell, Warcraft Orcs look more like 40K Orks than these nu Orks

It's not even the graphics themselves, but the whole character aesthetic and effects look "not Warhammer".

Jack White
Jack White

Tumblr and Holla Forums finding franchises always is bad in the end

William Thomas
William Thomas

I havent seen the orks yet, are they that bad? how the hell can you do 40k orcs bad?

Sebastian Robinson
Sebastian Robinson

this game looks like fucking abomination. its an army scale rts(???) with lots of squads and units, but only one-three units with lots of micro deal any real damage while normal troops just stand there and look pretty.
these cover shields/capture points have a shitty implementation. capture points are symbolizing important parts of the map(at least should) like ammo depots, strongpoints, supply lines, bridges…. so it would make sense if there was lots of cover around them to make defence easier. instead we get space elf magic field of standing still for minute to capture that look like ass.
generally everything looks like ass. seriously good maps are my fetish and these aint good.
ONLY thing that looks decent are solarias knight and effects of bombardment. im curious if the ground will stay like that for the rest of the game

Justin Gutierrez
Justin Gutierrez

This is just painful to watch, RIP DoW

Elijah Wilson
Elijah Wilson

Holy shit.

Just fucking cancel it.

God damn.

Jace Mitchell
Jace Mitchell

Kellie: Ouch. No wonder the Eldar are a dying race.

Kat: You going to help? Took you less time to awaken from your Tomb World.

Kellie: You couldn’t support me if your life depended on it! Wait …

Kat: “Soulless” is an understatement!

Fucking STATE of this "banter"

Christopher Martinez
Christopher Martinez

he had any hope
after the piece of shit that was DoW2
after the ASSFAGGOTS-ization that happened to DoW with 2

You have nobody but your fucking retarded selves to blame. I'll just keep playing the only good DoW game, the first rts. Go fuck yourselves, hypefaggots.
modern games
good

Grayson Kelly
Grayson Kelly

We told you DoW 2 fags. Enjoy this crap you made. Lmao.

Alexander Lopez
Alexander Lopez

They deserve it for not only defending but praising DoW 2.

Kayden Sanders
Kayden Sanders

DoWfags now reaching the Anger phase of acceptance.

Jose Wilson
Jose Wilson

Australia should be gassed

Joshua Martin
Joshua Martin

DoW 2 was shit though. Barely even RTS. Whoever brought hero units into skirmish in RTS should be gassed.

Easton Mitchell
Easton Mitchell

DoW 2 was shit. Fuck you and all dow2 shitters enjoy your crap moba with over 100 dlcs.

James Bennett
James Bennett

I never implied otherwise

Aiden Ramirez
Aiden Ramirez

so, westwood.

Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green

Fuck off DoW2 shitter.

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