Argentina: A Mirror of Your Future

How demographic change can destroy a country


Argentina is a distant mirror that reflects what may be North America’s future. My country is a small-scale laboratory of the effects of migration: A suitable migration policy can transform a nation for the good; a wrong one spoils it.

Argentina became independent from Spain in 1816 just after Napoleos occupation of the Iberian Peninsula. After a period of struggle between caudillos, the country was unified with a constitution inspired, in part, by that of the United States. A generation of brilliant thinkers led by Juan Bautista Alberdi and Domingo Faustino Sarmiento saw European immigration as the key to modernity, and this was enshrined in Article 25: “The Federal Government will encourage European immigration; and may not restrict, limit nor tax in any way the entrance into Argentine territory of those foreigners, who have the purpose of working the land, improving industries, and introducing and teaching sciences and arts.”

To this end, President Nicolás Avellaneda (1837 – 1885) pressed for the Colonization and Immigration Law of 1876, which established immigrant recruiting agencies in the main cities of Europe. Qualified emigrants were offered third-class tickets on the steamships that ran from Genoa, Marseilles, and Naples to Buenos Aires. Newcomers were welcomed at the Hotel de Inmigrantes, and assigned jobs in the city or on farms in the interior. The architects of the “Great Immigration” made mistakes—little land was made available to newcomers, and many of them ended up in bad housing in the cities—but between 1880 and 1914 Argentina received more than six million Europeans, most of them from Italy, Spain, France, Germany, and Britain. In that very short period, Argentina went from being a colonial backwater to a First-World nation.

President Domingo Sarmiento (1811 – 1888), the seventh president of Argentina, was a personal friend of Ralph Waldo Emerson and of Horace Mann’s wife. Known as the Horace Mann of South America, he reduced illiteracy to a rate lower than in some European countries; by 1947, illiteracy in Argentina was only 13 percent. With Mrs. Mann’s help, Sarmiento imported the “65 Valliants,” a group of young women teachers from Boston who were willing to teach in the then far desert of South America. We Argentines will always be grateful to them for their pioneering efforts.

Sarmiento’s ideas were thoroughly Western. In his 1884 book, Civilization Versus Barbarism, he wrote:


In those days, many thought Argentina was called to be the United States of the south. By 1914, it had the sixth highest GDP in the world. Thanks to immigration, it went from a population of 800,000—mostly mestizos—in 1852, to 8 million in 1914. Eighty-five percent were white, and most of the remaining 15 percent were light-skinned mestizos, completely assimilated to Western culture. The concept of multiculturalism did not exist. Buenos Aires became known as the Paris of South America, with wide avenues, mansions, palaces, theaters, museums, schools, excellent universities, and renowned scholars and researchers.

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The emergence of a great nation

Sarmiento’s schools produced brilliant minds in philosophy, literature, and science: Alejandro Korn, Leopoldo Lugones, Eduardo Wilde, Paul Groussac, Carlos Octavio Bunge, Agustín Álvarez, Juan Agustín García, Miguel Cané, Ricardo Rojas, Alfonsina Storni, Cecilia Grierson, among many others. If they had lived in Europe, they might have achieved global fame.

In 1912, Argentina was one of the first countries to establish the secret, universal, and mandatory franchise. It was democratic while Europe turned fascist. One of the first subway services of the world was built in Buenos Aires by the Anglo Argentine Trolley Co. in 1913. That same year, Ford Motor Company opened its third overseas plant in Buenos Aires.

The first and only branch office of Harrods of London opened in Buenos Aires in 1914. It was a luxury shopping center of seven floors and 506,000 square feet that operated in the center of the city until closing in 1998. The elegant building stands empty today.

In the 1920s, tango music and tango orchestras triumphed in the ballrooms of Paris, and became, together with jazz and the foxtrot, the fashionable rhythms of the day. Incomparable tango singer Carlos Gardel, the son of immigrants who starred in such films as The Tango on Broadway, could have become the next Rudolph Valentino. He died at age 44 in an airplane accident in 1935.

In 1918, the University Reform Movement started in Cordoba and Buenos Aires, transforming medieval canons of teaching into modern academic freedom. The movement then spread to all of Latin America. Argentine publishing houses were the most prolific in the region and the entire Spanish-speaking world read Argentine authors, books, and translations.

Peruvian Nobel Laureate Mario Vargas Llosa remembers how the Argentine children’s magazine Billiken shaped his childhood in the remote city of Cochabamba, and how he discovered modern literature—from Faulkner to Sartre—through the translations of Argentine publishers that served the entire continent: “Like uncountable number of young people of my generation, I owe a good part of my literary formation to that passion for books that nests in the heart of Argentine culture.” Even today, Buenos Aires has more book shops than any other city in the world.

In 1913, the Argentine GDP was almost as great as that of the rest of South America combined. Per capita income was 50 percent higher than in Italy, 85 percent higher than in Spain and Norway, 170 percent higher than in Japan, and more than 4 times greater than that of Brazil. Our Armed Forces were the most powerful, well equipped, and best trained in South America. The Military College of the Nation, where army officers are still educated, was at a level that rivaled that of West Point.

Argentina was neutral during the First World War, and exported beef and grain to both sides. It accumulated so much capital and gold that the Argentine peso became one of the strongest currencies in the world. Rich Argentine families would spend part of the year in Paris—as Arab sheiks now do in London. The French still use the Belle Époque saying, “rich as an Argentine.”

Cities were safe; women and children could walk anywhere any time. Aside from a few cases dealing with Russian anarchists or Italian Mafiosi, police mainly dealt with violations of municipal ordinance. There was great social mobility; a farmer’s son could study, work hard, and become a doctor or businessman.

The decline

Very little is left today of that Argentina. It began to fade during the Great Depression in the 1930s. Many historians blame the closing of international markets after the Wall Street Crash—that was certainly a factor—but there was another cause: European immigration stopped. Instead, there was migration of Mestizos and Amerindians, both from the country to the city and from neighboring Paraguay, Bolivia, Peru, and Chile. These new arrivals were prolific and ringed the main cities—Buenos Aires, Rosario, Cordoba, Mendoza—with belts of poverty. Unlike the Europeans, whose arrival was planned and encouraged, Amerindian migration was uncontrolled. White Argentina looked the other way.

With no European immigration, Paraguayans became the largest foreign community, followed by Bolivians, Peruvians, and Chileans. During the 1990s, Paraguayan immigration increased by 30 percent, and during the same decade, Peruvian immigration increased fourfold, from 16,000 to 88,000 per year. Between 1980 and 2001, Bolivian immigration grew 62.3 percent.

Official figures show that by 2001 there were around one million foreigners of Latin American origin [1]—about 3 percent of the population—but this figure is not reliable, since it reflects only legal immigrants. Nor is there any information about second, third, and fourth generations of arrivals since 1930. Argentina now has an underclass of people essentially outside the system, with unreliable housing, no sewers or clean water, bad food and health care, and few clothes. According to Argentine Catholic University’s Social Observatory, 4.5 million people were living in such conditions of extreme poverty in 2016. That was 10 percent of population; 60 percent of them are probably foreign born, with the other 40 percent mostly second- and third-generation foreigners.

In 2004, the socialist government of Nestor Kirchner passed a new migration law, implementing what was known as the “Patria Grande” (Big Homeland) program. This included amnesty for all illegals, as well as a relaxation of income requirements for immigrants. It also guaranteed free access to public education at all levels, free medical care, family reunification, elimination of the obligation for public officials to report illegal immigrants, issuance of residence permits with only a sworn statement rather than proof of income, and voting rights in local elections. These measures were clearly meant to win votes from non-whites.

A 2005 executive order went further, granting residency to anyone who simply declares he is a relative of either an Argentine or a permanent resident. In just a few months, the Patria Grande program added 442,000 legal residents to the population, and encouraged many more to immigrate illegally. This was done without any consideration for how these people would be housed, what jobs they would take, what taxes they could pay, or what schools and hospitals they would use.

In light of immigration over the last 80 years, my own calculation is that 18 million inhabitants—nearly 40 percent of the population—are not white. There are very few genetic studies, but the foremost one [2] comes close to confirming my estimate. The results probably inflate the figure for whites, with an estimate of 65 percent. The estimate for Mestizos or Amerindians is 31 percent, and for Africans, 4 percent. It is undeniable that Argentina has declined; I believe it is at least in part a consequence of the decline in the number of whites.

Unlike the European influx, there has been no planning for recent immigration. All these newcomers occupy space in an irregular way, overloading public services and infrastructure. Fifty percent of the suburban area of Buenos Aires lacks running water or sewers, and many people drink contaminated water. Public hospitals have declined badly, as have schools and the justice system. Judges prefer not to send delinquents to prison, because they know minor criminals will live in sub-human conditions, where they will learn from professional criminals. Inmates are overwhelmingly non-white.

The white middle class pays taxes for public schools but almost never uses them, preferring to pay a second time for private schools. Many whites also avoid public hospitals because of poor treatment. Absurdly, tourism agencies organize “medical tours” to bring sick foreigners to Buenos Aires, where they enjoy free treatment of a quality not found in their own countries. Just two months ago, a senator complained to the media that a major hospital was fully booked for an entire month by people coming from Paraguay.

Argentina’s ranking in international PISA testing continues to decline. In 2012 we were in 60th place, behind Chile, Mexico, Uruguay and Brazil. In 2015, test-takers were limited to Buenos Aires, which is largely European. That year, our rank rose to 39th, closer to the countries of original immigration such as Italy, Spain, and France. Education has declined to the point that only 50 percent of children can finish secondary school.

Like other institutions, our public universities are groaning under an influx of foreigners who are studying free of charge. Over the last 20 years, enrollment of foreigners increased 482 percent.

Culture, music, food, and other customs are changing. Tango and Argentine Rock are being replaced by Cumbia and other foreign rhythms.

Most non-whites live in poor neighborhoods, which shade imperceptibly into shanty towns and slums. There are no streets; just passages too narrow for an automobile. This is a perfect environment for hiding criminals, for drug trafficking, and for child lookouts who warn when strangers—especially the police—enter the area. Villa 31 is the most famous Argentine slum.

Eighteen million people get a social welfare check from the government each month, and 50 percent of the labor force is in the public sector. A small number of taxpayers must support all these people. Unemployment is over 10 percent and the poverty rate is 33 percent. Poverty, moreover, is at a Third-World level of misery—not the relatively comfortable “poverty” of the United States. Unlike Europeans, Amerindians and Mestizo rarely achieve upward mobility, even after decades in the country. The enormous sums spent on public schools seem to make little difference.

Even the city centers can be chaotic because of demonstrations organized by piqueteros demanding more social services. A few months ago, thousands of illegal street vendors shut down traffic in Buenos Aires when they took over key points in the city, demanding the right to continue selling smuggled goods on the streets. Demonstrations sometimes end in rioting.

Street closures by piqueteros are so common that commuters check the schedule of demonstrations before they leave home—but there can always be unannounced blockages. In February, there were 198 street blockages of varying duration in Buenos Aires.

Segregation

Not surprisingly, there has been a boom in gated communities and private cities. They started in the 1950s as upper-class country clubs in the suburbs. With the influx of immigrants and rising crime, they have proliferated and become real walled citadels. They have a unique, defensive architecture of fences, cameras, armed guards, constant patrolling, and vehicle inspections. The surrounding commercial areas—restaurants, discos, shopping centers, theatres, offices buildings, transport facilities—are essentially reserved for white people. Non-whites are not forbidden, but they are almost never seen.

Every year, gated communities expand north of Buenos Aires, between kilometers 30 and 60 of the main highway. In 2007 there were 600 such communities covering 140 square miles—almost double the area of Buenos Aires itself. There are now an estimated 800 gated communities, covering 200 square miles, with a population of 600,000 inhabitants. In Argentina as a whole, there are more than 1,000 such protected communities.

The most famous gated community is the enormous Nordelta Complex, with includes 20 neighborhoods. Inside this self-governing town there is everything necessary for completely isolated living. Within its miles of walls and watchtowers, there is a shopping mall with a cinema and supermarket, 70 local businesses, a private hospital, a 140-room five-star hotel, two of the best golf courses of the country, a marina for hundreds of yachts, and five private schools with 4,500 pupils. There are plans to build two exclusive train lines with nonstop service to downtown Buenos Aires. Contact with the rest of the population and with other social classes is nil, especially for children. Crime still breeches the walls, however; even Nordelteños, as residents are called, are sometimes assaulted.

Outside the walled cities, the middle class lives in fear. Neighbors organize to protect each other because the police are overwhelmed. Every house has a watchdog, alarms, and security cameras. Before you open the garage door, you look both ways to be sure there is no danger on the block. If your wife comes home late from work, it’s best to wait for her at the bus stop. Neighbors set up WhatsApp groups to alert each other to loiterers and unknown parked cars. You may get a midnight SOS WhatsApp message from a neighbor who is suffering a break-in.

You may also get a midnight call from someone who claims to have abducted your child. The crook will ask for ransom money while in the background there is a fake voice that is supposed to be your child crying for help. Clever people—celebrities and even a judge—have fallen for this scam.

Real kidnappings are a more serious problem, with an estimated one every 14 hours in 2014—though experts estimate that only 35 percent of cases are reported to the police. There have been some famous victims. Current president Mauricio Macri was kidnapped in 1991 and released after 12 days in return for a ransom payment estimated at as much as $6 million. Relatives of star soccer players are also tempting targets.

The second city of Argentina, Rosario, is famous for violent narco gangs with names such as “Los Monos” (The Monkeys) or “Los Pillines” (The Little Imps). Over the last decade, the homicide rate hit 20 murders per 100,000 people—four times the rate in the United States. Other violent crime is also very high. In La Plata, just 40 miles from Buenos Aires, a gas station was robbed 380 times over the past 10 years.

Ethnic conflict is an open secret. On one side of the dividing line are whites and a residual percentage of light Mestizos assimilated to Western culture. On the other side are non-assimilated brown Mestizos and a small number of pure Amerindians. Darker Argentines resent the whites, but depends on welfare from the people they hate. They clamor for higher taxes and wealth redistribution.

The reality of race is discussed only in private or in anonymous postings on social media. Here is a typical news story with the headline, “Shanty Town’s Population Increased 52.3% between 2001 and 2010.” At the end of the article there is a notice: “Closed to users’ participation due to the content of comments.”

But just as in the United States, many whites ignore race; for them, Argentina is a melting pot where all races live together in peace. They refuse to see the connection between race and such things as poverty and crime. They repeat the mantra that improved education and welfare will solve all problems.

The word “race” is never heard from government or in the media. Unlike in the United States, you will never see a government form that asks about race or ethnicity. Talking openly about race can bring social disapproval or even legal action. Since 1997, there is a government agency called INADI (National Institute against Discrimination, Xenophobia and Racism) that acts as a speech police. Of course, prosecutions are biased. In a radio interview, piquetero leader Luis D’Elia said, “I hate the whites . . . the only thing that moves me is visceral hatred against you.” INADI did nothing.

There is an increasing awareness of what is happening. According to a 2016 Ipsos poll, 54 percent of Argentines says there are too many immigrants in the country, 55 percent worry about the pressure of immigrants on public services, and just 12 percent believe immigration has a positive effect on the country.

Conclusion

In 30 years, a good migration policy transformed Argentina into one of the best places on earth. From 1880 to 1910, six million Europeans chose to come to my country rather than to the United States. Later, a bad migration policy—or the absence of any policy at all—drove the same country towards fragmentation and chaos. The decline accelerated between 1990 and 2017.

People have different views on how migration impacts a country, and social and economic change is never explained by just one factor. Argentina has been badly governed since the mid-20th century. The left-wing/right fascist Peronistas had a mafia-like patronage machinery. The right-wing military dictatorships were famous for death squads and crony capitalism. The war against Britain in 1982 for the distant Malvinas (Falklands) Islands was a terrible mistake.

Since the return of democracy in 1983, there has been sustained pandering to the underclass, and this was especially the case during the last decade of rule by Nestor and Cristina Kirchner. Still, it is impossible to ignore the devastating decline that accompanied the change in Argentina’s population.

In both North and South America, Hispanics are pushing relentlessly towards the higher latitudes. You Americans still have a Hispanic population that is only 17 percent of the total, a figure we reached in the 1970s. Argentina is a mirror that shows what your country will be like when that figure reaches 40 percent.

amren.com/features/2017/04/argentina-a-mirror-of-your-future-buenos-aires-latin-america/

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I made the mistake of vacationing in Argentina last winter. Never again.

Immigration should simply be absolutely stopped to anyone who isn't highly qualified in all successful countries.

Care to give an anecdote?

I've tried peddling that concept to people, nearly everyone I pitched it to game a look that you'd give to a serial killer. Even though the idea is a reasonable one.
I shouldn't expect anything more from a college town.

Not far fetched but you forgot
GOMMUNISD GOBMINTS

Not so white and based now, huh?

The point is the migrants got pandered to as the most numerous people there, they also happened to be the lowest common denominator so all they had to promise them was moree bennies, drawing in more of thee fuckers and the politicians love it because they get re-electedd again and agai

Rampant bolivian/peruan immigration around the Peron years sounds bizarre but i believe it
Still the most adamant for change, and the bad kind, where the jews (metric tons of them in Argentina) who doubled down due to fear of german/italian ex-pats and their families gaining power in obscure provinces
Same deal with California, don't blame the central americans completely, blame the jew who let them in
And the very few natives in Argentina are basically the same deal like in the US, except no reservations or gibs, just blind eye to their drug/mate productions and hut placement in the vast pampas

It doesn't matter they collapse civilization under their weight while demanding our heads for building it in the first place while being completely dependent. Civilization is going to have to contract several times before the brown masses understand how close to children they really are. Yes Jews push migration and thats a problem but I can't let the violent ignorance of the migrants go.

Good post, I wonder if there was any jewish involvement in the immigration policies or if it was merely some wealthy people hoping for a never ending stream of cheap peasant labor.

Argentina is in the top ten of countries with the most jews.

Nice summary of Argentinian history, it's not a country I think about that often. I'd like to do more research into the "Progressive Era" of Argentina when european immigration was at it's peak.

Interesting read but I saw that you mostly mentioned AmeriIndians as the non-white group that causes a lot of trouble for the white Argentinians, are there no niggers in Argentina like in Brazil for example?

tl;dr
where are the before after pictures, or mspaint infographs

No, not for the most part, slavery was never legal.

But there has been a recent flux of immigrants from Cameroon hoping for some gibs, but the number is in the low thousands. A lot of them went to Canada as "refugees" last year.

most of the (((tolerance and acceptance)))) ONG are run by jews. we even have our own holocaust ("los desaparecidos"/the missing ones) wit inflated numbers and all. (30000-45000 official number/ around 5000-7000 real number, but commies, so no problem)
in the last week meeting with president trump our president asked for the CIA files on this topic to stop all the commies form using this like a stepping stone for all their arguments.
its mostly centered in certain neighborhoods in buenos aires, "once" is the most notable. i try to stay far away form buenos aires like a plague, but when i need to go im surprised on how many synagogues and gold merchant places can be placed so closes to one another. and for some (((strange))) reason, al the mannequin sops are run by jews.

extremely small numbers. lately i noticed an influx of black inmigrantes, but it might be because they where kicked out of buenos aires and they traveled to other big city

The emergence of a great nation

Sarmiento’s schools produced brilliant minds in philosophy, literature, and science: Alejandro Korn, Leopoldo Lugones, Eduardo Wilde, Paul Groussac, Carlos Octavio Bunge, Agustín Álvarez, Juan Agustín García, Miguel Cané, Ricardo Rojas, Alfonsina Storni, Cecilia Grierson, among many others. If they had lived in Europe, they might have achieved global fame.

In 1912, Argentina was one of the first countries to establish the secret, universal, and mandatory franchise. It was democratic while Europe turned fascist. One of the first subway services of the world was built in Buenos Aires by the Anglo Argentine Trolley Co. in 1913. That same year, Ford Motor Company opened its third overseas plant in Buenos Aires.

The first and only branch office of Harrods of London opened in Buenos Aires in 1914. It was a luxury shopping center of seven floors and 506,000 square feet that operated in the center of the city until closing in 1998. The elegant building stands empty today.

In the 1920s, tango music and tango orchestras triumphed in the ballrooms of Paris, and became, together with jazz and the foxtrot, the fashionable rhythms of the day. Incomparable tango singer Carlos Gardel, the son of immigrants who starred in such films as The Tango on Broadway, could have become the next Rudolph Valentino. He died at age 44 in an airplane accident in 1935.

In 1918, the University Reform Movement started in Cordoba and Buenos Aires, transforming medieval canons of teaching into modern academic freedom. The movement then spread to all of Latin America. Argentine publishing houses were the most prolific in the region and the entire Spanish-speaking world read Argentine authors, books, and translations.

Peruvian Nobel Laureate Mario Vargas Llosa remembers how the Argentine children’s magazine Billiken shaped his childhood in the remote city of Cochabamba, and how he discovered modern literature—from Faulkner to Sartre—through the translations of Argentine publishers that served the entire continent: “Like uncountable number of young people of my generation, I owe a good part of my literary formation to that passion for books that nests in the heart of Argentine culture.” Even today, Buenos Aires has more book shops than any other city in the world.

In 1913, the Argentine GDP was almost as great as that of the rest of South America combined. Per capita income was 50 percent higher than in Italy, 85 percent higher than in Spain and Norway, 170 percent higher than in Japan, and more than 4 times greater than that of Brazil. Our Armed Forces were the most powerful, well equipped, and best trained in South America. The Military College of the Nation, where army officers are still educated, was at a level that rivaled that of West Point.

Argentina was neutral during the First World War, and exported beef and grain to both sides. It accumulated so much capital and gold that the Argentine peso became one of the strongest currencies in the world. Rich Argentine families would spend part of the year in Paris—as Arab sheiks now do in London. The French still use the Belle Époque saying, “rich as an Argentine.”

Cities were safe; women and children could walk anywhere any time. Aside from a few cases dealing with Russian anarchists or Italian Mafiosi, police mainly dealt with violations of municipal ordinance. There was great social mobility; a farmer’s son could study, work hard, and become a doctor or businessman.

amren.com/features/2017/04/argentina-a-mirror-of-your-future-buenos-aires-latin-america/

you wonder? Argentina is literally infested with jews. Like, literally. They have whole neighbourhoods with tight-knit jewish communities. Jewish schools (that, funnily enough, have anti-car bomb concrete walls on the outside gates). If you look at an argentinean newspaper, most of the staff is jewish. Same goes for other msm.


good post and so true.
I blame white "turning the other cheek" kind of thing.

Race awareness in argentina goes only as far as saying "those fucking niggers" referring to lower class mestizos that often peddle with illegal activities. Which is true. There is an unconscious aversion towards these people, but they will still intermarry sometimes, fucking up the genetics.

Argentina is now going to look like brazil in a few more years.

t. argentinean

Let me get this straight. You didn't have a border wall, and you were surprised when a bunch of shitskins with sub-80 IQ decided it was time to sneak in and live the good life on the blood and sweat of White Argentinians? You only have yourself to blame. Either reform your shit or try again after the inevitable revolution.

Another argentinian, I can confirm all of this.
This pic says basically the same thing in both languages
Also (((Golman Sachs))) has its hands on this news network

chori here, can confirm all of this
Just as it happened everywhere else, as our population grew darker, so did our country decline

Discusing race is made even harder by villeros (our niggers) calling themselves "Negros cabeza" many of these villeros are not niggers some are even light skined but they identify as "negros cabeza" so when you want to speak about the Negro race, you need to clarify that you do not mean the "villeros" when you say "negro"
Still, it is kinda nice that the scum of our society proudly identifyes themselves as niggers while distancing the meaning of the word from racial ethnicity (it's more a cultural thing, villeros worship their own decadent degeneracy) that means white people can unapologetically reffer to our society's scumm as niggers without suffering persecution by (((them)))

come preach to us about borders when Trump finished the Mexicrap wall

El board argentino es cancer, me da vergüenza ajena

el board argentino es un reflejo de nuestro pais
lleno de commies y degenerados

Regression to the racial mean. Thanks for playing.

I wonder if all the cuck porn in that board is posted by kikes.
Btw I want to embed a yt video, do you know how?

At the bottom of the reply box there's a show post options and links thing. Click it, then paste YT link on the embed box.

THX capo
Buenos Aires 1932

a mi me gusta por eso, es literalmente una mini-argentina. no hay muchos commies aparte de shills y "boluditos" y realmente veo que el nacionalismo esta creciendo en argentina si hay que basarnos en el microorganismo que es /argentina/.
pero que esta lleno de degenerados y neets eso si que te doy la razón

i also wonder this sometimes, especially on halfchan. /gif/ its a sea of degeneracy

What a shame.

Thanks for the report Argies, all this time I'd been thinking that Argentina was a secret bastion of whites hidden in South America. In fact, it was one of my contingency "bug out" zones if the world ever went to shit. Maybe I'll rethink that.

Do elaborate, user.

Based post thanks OP

at least in argentina you can have the same advantage as in europe
way to far near the poles for the diversity to survive post crisis, you can always create a core region in the south from which to start the reconquista
speaking about which how is life in comodoro rivadavia?

see

If you only took the smartest they wouldn't regress all the way to the mean but they'd interbreed and then ruin the haplotypes of both races to make retard mongrels.

post it on 8ch /trv/ please

Wew, I googled "villeros" and they looked like the South American equivalent of Romanians.

Look at Chile instead.

Chile is even less white than Argentina. You're not convincing anyone and you aren't white, Mapuche shitskin.

Argentinian anons, give us some names of these Jews

I know that feel.

it only reflects the argie community as a whole.
It's like reading online newspaper's comment section. Compare it to other countries', hell, even spain and the intellectual level is dismal.

/argentina/ as a board is insanely bad.

fuck off. you're way worse off than we are.


The nationalism growing in that board is the only thing that makes it remotely tolerable.


You might find that bastion, but you definitely have to stay away from huge urban areas, and even then, it's not that great. Only a few cities on the south are. The question is: for how long?

Sadly, there are almost no places like the one you want for a retreat.

Iceland is one, for one, but I have the feeling it won't last for long. The last time I went there, there were a lot of asians (southern asians I suppose, not mudslimes) and a couple of niggers as well. For a place with such a low population, it's a catastrophe.

maybe the faroe islands? I don't know. I have been thinking about this as well for a long time.

Was waiting to hear that word. Just like south africa. Trick whites into democracy, buy off leaders with cheap labor and sex slaves, then the bait and switch happens when they just take over parliament sum total. All the article needed to say.

Also Spaniards are not really white

maybe, but its real.
i respect everything tats genuine human interaction

the south its fucked also, im form there.
you need to go waaaay south. you can stay in small towns, but at the end, running away was never my style

You are forgetting something op
Both the presidents that let all this mestizos enter the country were Jews.
Half of our media is ran by jews, and the other half is run by foreign jews like Viacom, and our conservative news media La nacion (the nation) is property of the CIA.

There's only one hope the Second Republic Party, but when they get close to elections, whites will be a minority so I dunno if they can win.

Sephardic Jews

This entire thread made my heart weak and bring a tear to my eye. As an Argie i have much to be proud of and not a day goes by that the constant pain and misery inflicted on my home soil doesnt make me rage and sad. Algun dia va a mejorar?

Puedo confirmar que están shilleando a los haitianos y colombianos en el otro lado de la cordillera también.

Solving the current situation in Argentina compared to the US is like playing Germany in some WW2 vidya and starting in late 1944 instead of 1933.

t. argie

It's tragic that nothing will be solved until rivers run red with blood, due to inner corruption, (((usual suspects))), the massive number of shitskins within the country, and the endless shitskin breeding grounds around the country outside. The only reason it didn't turn into Rhodesia/South Africa is becuase this type of nonwhite isn't as aggressive as actual niggers, but that's as far as it goes regarding positive aspects.

hashashashashasajsksha THE AMERINDIANS WILL SURPASS YOU, YOUR HOME WILL BE SEIZED AND FLATTENED hashaskajshdskashas

CONQUISTA DEL DESIERTO 2 CONTINENTAL BOOGALOO WHEN

Bump for interesting post. Pic vaguely related.

One of these kids is not like the others…

FUCKING BOLIGUAYOS GET OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Yet there are tards here that think the southern cone is some incredible redoubt, lol. Not as bad as the idiots who want to make an ethnostate in africa but still.

South America depresses me.
If we in the North ever unfuck ourselves I want to help make South America white again next.

I think it's hueland, actually
Difference is that most kikes in Argentina don't hide themselves, they've kept their jewish surnames and don't deny their origins
Whereas Brazil is almost 100% crypto kikes who've changed their surnames and never publicly admit to their origins, many have racemixed too. But they're in control of everything.
No wonder Brazil is the biggest shithole in SA, and its big city with the largest kike population is the worst shithole in the country.

Posting some OC a bunch of anons and me thought of a few months ago. Meme magic will help us right?Kek provides r-right?

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In 15 years, Buenos Aires will be the Bolivian Republic of the Rio de la Plata. Cultures, in order to be dominant, and this is irrelevant of the liberal or repressive legal regime in force towards dissent, need to permanently generate expansion of their own population, to keep alive the waves of immigrants, physically occupying the civic centers of the country's capital in the vicinity of governmental offices, consider as a geographic and spatial psychological reference the microcenter of the city and not the suburbs or closed neighborhoods, occupy the police, the army, the hospitals, the public school.

When I was born the restaurants had Italian food by default, there was no need to name it as such, the few that exist today are offered as "Italian cuisine" and are very bad. In a little more time, the Bolivian stews and Peruvian dishes will become the default food of the Argentine capital.

The Italians quietly withdraw from the places where Amerindians arrive massively. European women surrender to Amerindians both physically and mentally.

Occupying territory, the main cities, is a guarantee of future success. To escape to the country and the closed neighborhood so as not to encounter Amerindians is a sign of defeat and guarantee of extinction as a national group.

The warnings were duly presented.

OP didn't write this. It's an Amren article, so no surprise they avoided the jewish hand.

I refuse to believe European women (or any women) would date manlets smaller then themselves.

Don't you know about bolitoros, bolivian bulls?

spoiler that shit you fucking animal.

I heard that there's an "Axis Argentina", where a bunch of italians and germans moved post war, is this true?

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Probably. The southernmost states of Brazil also had the largest branch of the NSDAP outside of Europe, IIRC.

More like for the first time. With the exception of a few places like the Argies and some parts of other countries, it was never white to begin with.

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can confirm, 100% true

PSR is pretty cuck, they will shill constantly for the Patria Grande, and refuse to acknowledge immigration is a problem.

from what i read and watched they are pretty redpiled in the topic of elites and jews, actually naming them inclusively.
but in the immigration and race topic they are pretty god goy, a shame

Fuck off, Jew.

Kike detected.

Solo si puede blancear.

Yep, but they'll go only as far naming zionist, nothing about jews in general.


It happens, due to a handful of reasons. In one hand in Argentina is not racially aware, or hasn't really been racially aware at a cultural level for a very long time. Also marxist propaganda is present since highschool, and third we have a lot of jews and light skin mestizos, among other mixbreeds, don't confuse those with white people.

Here's a loyalty test to the white race for you. Tell me how many of these faces belong in a problem free future white Argentina. And don't defect with meta questions, just show me the white people here. If you can get over your soccer blindness to give me an honest answer I will be impressed.

Well, I guess that settles it.
There's no argument against a picture of eleven footballers. Give up, hermanitos, they obviously represent the make up of your population.

Better picks would help but only 10,9,6,2 and 15 would not be gassed. 6 looks tanned but otherwise seems white. Also Messi is white but a manlet.

uh, fuck if i know anyone on the team and their family tree. All I know is Messi is hailed as a fantastic player and talks like he has severe brain damage, and Tevez is from the villa, but thats about it.

Please keep your cuckold gallery to your self.

He's also a sperg, not even kidding.

I wouldnt say the football team is representive, footballplayers usually dont come from the upper or upper-middle class. Anyway good example how mogrelization fucks countries up.

Chilean here. The "Argentina is White" meme is actually true… IN SOUTH-AMERICA. They are by far the whitest country south of Texas. I guess because their people is still mostly a mix of spaniards and italians.

In Chile our ancestors are the scum of spanish conquistadores, who needed to travel to the end of the fucking world in order to find a place where their insignificant species could be valuable. They finally got to meet some barbaric violent mapuche, a group of subhumans so lazy and stupid that even the mighty Inca thought were unworthy of anexing. Spaniard bastards knew they have met their match and chileans were born from that noble union.

We still have better economy than Argentinians in the last decades because our our politicians are corrupt but not Argentinian-level corrupt (everything is bigger over there).

never trust a beaner


Its hard for anyone who speaks spanish or portugese to be white

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Y me lo dices. Hay barrios completos invadidos de haitianorcos.

Why not coming to my white neighborhood in Santiago, and see, fag?

Why posting that flaite girl, frog?

I'm curious about the fate of Chile when the cooper mines depletes, do you guys have anything other than cooper ? I don't think I ever saw any product manufactured in Chile.

Sure thing, chori
Browns are surely the problem and not the leaders who throw them in the wild
What is true is that white and browns are as poor as everyone else in the province, no real difference other than activities. Nigger mixed rob, whites make food and reds do labour

There are sunken nazi submarines in this region.

Bolivian so mad that resorts to post cuck porn. Then post (((niggerball))) as evidence of anything.
Last time I was in our capital I saw a Bolivian watching porn of a white guy fucking a brown girl inside a cyber cafe. Truly a disgusting race.
INJUINS=CUCKS
They also frequent porn cinemas and fuck eachother, not kidding

This was Mar del plata in the '50. If our spaniard ancestors could make spain great after centuries of muslim occupation in Al-andalus we can do it to!
They also went about to conquer the Two more continents for the sake of it.
Most whites are upper middle class living, with knowledge of english and internet conection. They are raised in a isolated enverioment, but eventually they find the red pill as we all did. All it takes is a push in the right direction. Just as Constantinople falling was the wake up call to our Southern Europeans we will see A call to arms in our life time.

Some aryan beauty from madel in the '50 to wash away the stink of bolicucks.

Another pic beacuse I'm still disgusted

RIP Argentina. It's so sad, this world would be so much better if colonialism had never gone away. Imagine white nations all over the world.

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Relax, it's a Spanish/Anglo rivalry which happens literally everywhere they're near to one another.

Gibraltar, the Mexican-American wars, the Falklands, idk why it happens but it does.

Blueberries?

#9, #6, #10 and maybe #2
I need to see a DNA test and photo of a South American to believe that they are actually 100% European. But I know that they number in the millions across that large region. That's because the region is so mongrelized..

Brazil

Off topic I suppose..

… of the same blood as the nation.

Actually, language and history too. Essentially no immigration at all.

Bumping an awesome post

bumping this

The word you burgers lack is "ethnos", which comprises both culture and kinship.

Why not? The last inmigration wave to Argentina, in most part, spoke galician and sicilian. I see not problem with inmigration as long as, it is white learns the language, basic history, and adheres to our values and laws. i.e. not being a dirty sandnigger or something along those lines.
I have no problem with Ivan and Hans moving next to me so far as they don't start shilling for their culture, I have a problem with Ahmed and Tyrone.

I guess you are greek then.

el boliviANO

Wat. I read that Argentina 85% white. wtf. This country was supposed to be my escape plan. I literally can't even right now

Interesting read, thanks OP

I cant see it happening but id love a country to encourage white immigration again to see the results.

I am in agreement. Mongrelization is awful. It's why I'm so proud of burger racist tradition. Over 95 percent of our "whites" are actually fully white. Jews have been whining about this recently as.they get more open about racemixing, but it just shows the back assward nature of gibs. When it pays to be nonwhite, the list for nonwhite is reeeeeal long. And easy to access.

Except Ivan and Hans will shill for their culture because their culture is downstream from their genetics, and their political opinions will spring from their family roots.
If you want assimilation, you need one individual marrying into your culture, and their children and grandchildren being raised in that culture. Otherwise you have people who will cuck for the outsiders because they feel closer to them than the host.

Argentina recived some measure of Ivans and Hans during WW2. I gladly welcome my white brothers.
[citation needed]

I didn't want to upload the second pic, lol
notice that's not the russian flag, it's from Misiones Argentina. There are more examples like that in our everyday culture.

I am in agreement. Mongrelization is awful. It's why I'm so proud of burger racist tradition. Over 95 percent of our "whites" are actually fully white. Jews have been whining about this recently as.they get more open about racemixing, but it just shows the back assward nature of gibs. When it pays to be nonwhite, the list for nonwhite is reeeeeal long. And easy to access.

The real redpill is hard. Europe is run by the same people it always was, religion is a corrupted pile of shit and all wars are the elites fucking with each other.

Rothschild caused the crash in 98' for the windsors in an economic proxy war against the hapsburgs both german with lackey jews.

what made the rothschilds rich? they were court jews that saved the money from the services to the german royalty.

Look anywhere and you will see the emigration records of jews and the elites (pretty much always both german or spanish in some capacity).

America,Australia,South Africa.

Why do you think Gibraltar and the Falklands REALLY exist?

because its a power game between old european royalty,the masons and their lackey jews.


this just proves everything i just typed, the owner of harrods made Princess Diana pregnant and she suddenly died.

Then there was the plane that crashed with the royal heir in the 70s, not the cia at all! the deep state are not bought and paid for!

Truly these people are the trash! but they call us it to project there insecurities.

In 1912, Argentina was one of the first countries to establish the secret, universal, and mandatory franchise. It was democratic while Europe turned fascist. One of the first subway services of the world was built in Buenos Aires by the Anglo Argentine Trolley Co. in 1913. That same year, Ford Motor Company opened its third overseas plant in Buenos Aires.

Shit like this is why I'll never support hard white nationalism. Nothing will destroy white nationalism more then the infighting provoked by the question "who counts as white?". Most of them probably are 100% Europeans. Many Spaniards, especially from the south, have a distinct look to them that you may confuse as a "mongrel face", but it sure ain't Amerindian.

Why do you need a DNA test? There are light skinned mestizos, who are only 60% European, but can look extremely white, while some can be 75% European yet still inherit the genes for dark skin, given them a very European face but much darker skin.

Even then, not all Europeans are uniform. There are still genetic differences between an English man and a Russian, its just a matter of scale.

Fuck, one of my wife's cousins moved to Peru for some work-related bullshit and after a year there she had the great idea of marrying one of those disgusting subhumans.

Fucking disgusting.

nationalvanguard.org/2017/04/argentina-a-mirror-of-your-future/

At least credit the original source OP. I suggest all anons visit this site, all of Dr. Pierces writings and transcripts of his radio shows are archived here.

nationalvanguard.org/category/william-pierce/

Marrying someone after knowing them only for a year. Those that date outside their race are objetivly insane. Their danger assesment and their amygdala are fuck'd up.

If there's someone from Argentina here, could you please let me know few things.

How high is the amount of huehue, is it insufferable? Or is it possible to find enclaves of white people? I'm a northern european entertaining the idea of moving to foreign country, I have multiple ebil nazhee siblings so I need not worry on my family's part, they will be fine and busy making my own country great again. Used to live in foreign country before and I've found out that I really need warmer location or I'm gonna off myself. So better move somewhere.

Anyway, what are the chances to find work if one has degree in economics and is white? I speak few languages and could learn Spanish easily. Just worried that Argentina is too huehue, if there's some nice white enclave and work to do it really might be worth moving there. Please lemme know if you need more blond aryan people.

If there's someone from Argentina here, could you please let me know few things.

How high is the amount of huehue, is it insufferable? Or is it possible to find communities of white people? I'm a northern european entertaining the idea of moving to foreign country, I have multiple ebil nazhee siblings so I need not worry on my family's part, they will be fine and busy making my own country great again. Used to live in foreign country before and I've found out that I really need warmer location or I'm gonna off myself. So better move somewhere.

Anyway, what are the chances to find work if one has degree in economics and is white? I speak few languages and could learn Spanish easily. Just worried that Argentina is too huehue, if there's some nice white enclave and work to do it really might be worth moving there. Please lemme know if you need more blond aryan people.

If there's someone from Argentina here, could you please let me know few things.

How high is the amount of huehue, is it insufferable? Or is it possible to find communities of white people? I'm a northern european entertaining the idea of moving to foreign country, I have multiple ebil nazhee siblings so I need not worry on my family's part, they will be fine and busy making my own country great again. Used to live in foreign country before and I've found out that I really need warmer location or I'm gonna off myself. So better move somewhere.

Anyway, what are the chances to find work if one has degree in economics and is white? I speak few languages and could learn Spanish easily. Just worried that Argentina is too huehue, if there's some nice white enclave and work to do it really might be worth moving there. Please lemme know if you need more blond aryan people.

Neck yourself, how are Spaniards NOT white in Argentina? That's impossible, not to mention it was the Spanish and the Portuguese explorers who first started calling europeans "white" as slang because it was easier to say. Though it was never really adapted as an official category.

Of course their linguistic variety is "blanco" or "branco".

pic related

I'm not an american, but yes that is the word. I suppose I'll use it in my language in the future too, its more precise than the ones in my language which I've used.
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At least you're better than Brasil, Argentina. If we were white we would actually be true world power by now but ultimately as everyone who went to Rio Olympics found out flooding newscycles of crime, rapes, murders it's just a subhuman shithole of monkeys made worse by leftist (socialist) idiots. If any Portugal anons are here, you shouldn't have flooded the new world shitskins and you should have done what the Anglos did by eradicating the local savages. This applies to you too, Spainons.

If by hue you mean Brazilian we got some, mostly they come to our public collages and then fuck off. If you mean niggers, then you got the amerindian shitskin, which inhabit shanty town called villas, and the not so poor live in the capital mostly, with some more of them up north. There are comunnities of whit people, the middle/upper class neighborhoods are mostly white.
As for coming here I wouldn't recommend it, we have constant inflation, fucking commies and shitskin "marching" every week and the job type of job you seek is most probably done by native whites.
What we need is a purge. A law recently came out saying we should deport foreign dangeraous criminals, and everyone lost their shit. Mind you not illegal aliens, just the violent criminals who are also foreigners.


Your slave trade also fucked you up. Luckily we have Roca and Sarmiento whose career are characterized by removal of shitskins. Too bad Peron and other libshits fucked it all up by importing amerindians shitskins.

interesting and informative read, OP. thanks for that. I hope the best for both our countries.

Bumping
and bringing a bit of information about the jews in Argentina from kikepedia:
Argentina is the seventh country with most jews
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

Argentines are basically spanish speaking dagos and their women are pretty homely looking but those faggots sure know how to cook steak, Argentinian steakhouses are the best steakhouses.

Chileans are pretty based too they look to be all mongrelized, their military still does the Prussian military march. Who woulda thunk it that these mestizos seem to care more about white European traditions than we do?

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Hey, argentinian here.
I'm personally from Buenos Aires. White people are common (the southern european kind) so don't worry about finding them. The problems are the cities were mostly immigrants live, and you should avoid them at all costs.
Jobs aren't hard to come by if you have a degree (except those social science ones) so you shouldn't worry about that either.
The principal disadvantages of Argentina are the economy (it's not stable at all) and the crimes. You can't do anything about the first one, but as long as you avoid the shitty cities you won't have trouble with the second one.
If you ever come here and need any help feel free to contact me. Don't know how would you prefeer to do it though.
And we always need aryan people, haven't you read our constitution?