Why can't nippon into PC?

Jesus fuck Holla Forums, what is wrong with Japan. Their PC game is absolute dogshit.

Consider FFXIII-2. Not only does the game not work with an Xbone controller because SE decided to use their own custom DInput to XInput wrapper that completely ignores Xbone controller input after the main menu, but the game as a whole is so poorly coded you can't even get a steady frame rate.

And then there's the shit Namco Bandai puts out, with their Tales games all being locked to 30fps and, in the case of Symphonia, locked to a 720p resolution. And that's without going in to the clusterfuck that is Tecmo Koei.

It's like they deliberately want to fuck up and makes things as difficult as possible.

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Basically, the only things japs play on PC are shit MMOs. PC as a platform isn't really a thing in nipland and they port shit almost exclusively for the profit of foreigners.
But try onimusha 3 PC, it'll put what you call "absolute dogshit" into perspective.

Despite what you might think, Japan is pretty behind when it comes to PC tech. Fax machines are still commonplace there, after all. Even popular (at least, concerning otakus) games like VNs are 800x600 or other circa 2000 resolutions. They're stuck in the past, so comparatively high tech console games on PC is a new challenge for them.

Anyway, Bamco are tremendously bad, but at least some companies seem to be wising up. There's been a few bare bones, but otherwise decent ports, recently.
Maybe they're learning?

Japan makes plenty of PC exclusives that have more options and features than many Western releases. Many big games in the west are very popular in Japan too.


this idiot has no idea what he's talking about.

I'd say there's an equal number of Japanese devs that "don't get" the PC as there are Western devs that "don't get" it. Shitty ports come from all over the world, and just because you're oblivious to the massive number of Japanese PC exclusives, doesn't mean they don't exist.

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PCs in Japan are for work and porn. Their workstations used a different architecture in the 80s and early 90s compared to the West. This is why they were left out.

People there don't even consider PCs for gaming.

this person also has no idea what he's talking about and likely reads kotaku

Also this is true
The average Japanese PC is a toaster even by few years old standards.

pretty much the real issue, japs are happy enough with consoles and never even consider the possibility of gaming on PC.

look at all these charts and statistics this retard has provided, all this proof.

wrong also.

Games vs. Hardware. The History of PC video games: The 80's

Also some info here: hardcoregaming101.net/JPNcomputers/Japanesecomputers.htm

I'd check for some modern day gaming GPU sales chart on Japan but we all know what we are gonna find out man.

You haven't posted any of the PC exclusive games you're talking about either, dipshit.

look at all these late 90s pc's that support your claim, just the time that PC gaming became somewhat relevant too!

Oh wait, it's all 80s, pre win95 PCs. Next, you fucking dunce.


that you're wrong, you have no proof, and are pulling the same assertions a kotaku writer would. Useful assumptions that let you jump to a baseless conclusion. You are a retard, and may want to consider suicide.

This. See also every Japanese blogging platform being complete eyecancer unusable trash and how everything seems to use Flash still.

Okay Ken-sama, you can go back to playing Rance for the 50th time now.

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there's about 400 exclusives there for about 4-5 years. Enjoy, faggot.


maybe skip the bleach and go to draino. You have nothing of value to say, you kotaku-tier retard.

Come on now there's some fun stuff there but that shit runs on mobile.

Are you retarded? The 80s and early 90s hardware dictated the computer tech in Japan even in the late 90s. They were also left in the dust when PC gaming was taking its first proper steps They also didn't suddenly jump on the bandwagon in the late 90s because PC gaming hadn't been a thing before that.


Your unapralleled ability to say "no, you're wrong" has convinced me.

This is a terrible example.
They're all indie games that could run on a 2006 or lower pc.


You're funny. It's fine for VNs, I guess.

Japan produces an incredible amount of PC exclusives.

Huge percentage of those are porn games, as I already said here
Even the others are generally very low-end games.

I think it's worth pointing out that even console gaming is hurting in Japan with mobile games having stolen a huge portion of the market.

Calling porn and visual novels "PC exclusives" is such a fucking stretch here we had to save pictures of the official kike running the board to approve their discussion in the first place.

how is any of what you said not a baseless assumption? You seem to think Japan operates in a different universe where technology produced in that country and in neighboring countries, that is used in other countries, is not used there. Despite the fact that well, it is. And has been. Much like how Europe had their own PCs like the ZX Spectrum in the 80s, America had things like the Tandy (I still have my 1000EX in my closet, works too!) Japan did as well. Funny enough, they also all shared similar technology, many even ran DOS like in the West. You may want to stop talking, you gigantic moron.


oh right, pc gaming is only pc gaming if it's on windows 10 with a gtx1080. Keep moving those goal posts, only makes you look dumber.

Most of the eyecancer is because a lot of people browse on their phones. Not necessarily smartphones either, but those flip phones crammed full of features, including web browsers.

I thought this guy was trolling but holy shit he truly is that autistic. And also wrong.

Because Nihon doesn't PC. They used to with the PC98 though. Now only westaboos are on Steam.

Hell PC sales have been declining for years (yes even build it yourself rigs) all over the world. But every time I mention that people get triggered.

0/10

The average person doesn't play video games outside of CoD or MADDEN at all. We used to like it that way.

I honestly don't care either way. I think it's just important to make the distinction and acknowledge that many of them are straight-up porn that runs on 90s hardware. One needs to just look at DLsite and Getchu.

Actual gaming on PCs is very niché. No matter how much one praises the mighty Nihon this fact will not change. Heck, Windows XP is still a popular OS over there.

Bunch of hikkies playing kawaii indie titles and porn games will hardly convince anyone that PC gaming in Japan is a thing.

The fact it's such a niche market means they can sometimes take risks and deliver unique products, pretty rarely though considering that also implies they have no funds, little experienced coders around and pretty much no one to buy their games anyway in the end.

one look at japanese game dev twitter and you can see them talking about developing VR prototypes and see masses of recorded footage of their concepts in action, running on modern operating systems and engines like UE4.

Funny, you really might want to try backing up some of your claims.


go talk to japanese players then.

What's worse: shit jp ports or shit western ports?
For jp ports, there are input problems, framerate and resolution are locked, etc. But on western ports, the game barely runs, has glitches everywhere, and reaches 27 fps on the lowest settings in an expensive rig

>More than half of Steam's userbase(store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey) are 16:9 resolutions exceeding 800x600
I bet a CRT is still the main TV in your house, too.

a bad japanese port is at least playable. May not be desirable, but it can be played.

A bad western port requires a pentium 4 cpu in an age where multicore systems were exploding in popularity, and won't scale in the slightest.

I can boot up xanadu next from 11 years ago and have no problems playing it. It'll run perfectly. I can't play simpsons hit & run. my PC is too good.

I certainly agree.


I wish even a fraction of them could talk understandable English. They are also surprisingly xenophobic, especially many of the indie devs who see Westeners as filthy pirates.

But that's not what I've been talking about. OP was talking about modern games that use high end comparatively, at least tech and Japan seems to be struggling with porting them well. This leads me to believe that, along with a lack of big Japanese PC exclusive games, Japs just aren't as advanced with PC tech as we are. In the very least, when it comes to games.
Japan does produce PC games, no one can deny that, but their tech that they actually use appears to be behind the average Western non-indie dev's. Japan does not produce PC stuff like The Witcher. At least to my knowledge. Can you post some Jap games that are up to date?


This. PC gaming was a fairly popular thing in the late 80s - early-mid 90s in Japan. But even then, it was a pretty hardcore market. It wasn't comparable to consoles, like NES. In contrast, Western PC gaming at the time, while less popular than consoles, was still a big market. With classics like Doom and Commander Keen.


Xanadu is a pretty bad example. FALCOM are one of the few PC devs in Japan, so I'd be surprised if their games run badly. Not that I'm downplaying their efforts, but I thought I should point that out.

While in this case you might've had a point, the way you're writing makes it sound like everything you say is just:

Not sure where the surprise would be coming from.

The Witcher hasn't been a PC game since 2007, that's a pretty bad example since the witcher 2 shifted focus to consoles tremendously, and the Witcher 3? PCs that are 4x more powerful than consoles struggled to get playable framerates.

Nobody produces big PC games any more. Nobody. The biggest one was XCom 2, the west especially targets low end PC gamers primarily.

big budget games have been console ordeals for a long time. PC occasionally gets multiplat titles, but like we saw with the witcher 3. It's really a great example in a lot of ways, so I think I'll bring it up pretty often.


you might read it like that if you're an uneducated retard who is running with assumptions. I don't care if I hurt your feelings, neither do the facts.


from what I've noticed, it's no more xenophobic than the west might be, considering some of the absolute retardation passed as accepted belief in this thread.

To the average Holla Forumsirgin idolizing everything Japan has as much as farted on.

WHITU PIGGU GO HOME!

Look, as much as I dislike what CDPR did with Witcher 3, there are few things to consider

Now I know that you're just ignorant or bullshitting

Please gas yourself before you potentially get the chance to breed.

ps4 runs the game at 1080p, about medium settings on a mid-end laptop tier machine circa 2013. Gameworks sabotaged the game, and shows how much more of a focus consoles are.


Just read the thread. "Japs don't get PC! Oh those hundreds of games that show they do PC focused games….they don't count! Stupid Japanese! How ignorant!"

Just read Kotaku. "Wow, Japan is so weird! Can you believe they do this?! This one doesn't even know what steam is! And he's a major game director! So outdated."

Please, everyone has xenophobic tendencies. Did a Japanese person call you a gaijin once and it got under your skin? They call everyone not Japanese gaijin. It doesn't fucking matter, you dumb nigger.

The others might have an excuse, I don't know why square thinks that the FFXIII series ports are in any way acceptable. They're knee-deep in the western market, surely if anyone can find people to do it properly they can.

They might as well be playing facebook games, the PC market in japan is even under that since most of it is not even poor simulation of games, but just porn plain and simple.

Check your fact checking privilege user

Holy Shit

They can't make a good game for any platform anymore. They're worthless now, sadly.

You can find a niché circle people doing everything in anywhere. Your logic ignores the reality. If you cared enough to look, you'd also see that most of that is mobile game level of shit.


Witcher 3 and optimization in general have gone down the shitter but your original wording was dishonest at best.

I've never read Kotaku and you seem to know more about it than I do. Maybe because you like those quirky and kawaii Japanese!

I thought his kind had died once Naruto shat the bed, but here we are.

Stop speaking about a place you've never been to.
I couldn't even enter pachinko parlours because I'm white.

user please

I see many of the same lies Kotaku perpetuates being perpetuated in this thread. Know your enemies, you know?


lies are never OK, user


I don't care

Look up the term "洋ゲー", if you want a laugh. It's basically the Japanese equivalent to "weebshit".
Not really about gamers communicating with gamers, but there is prejudice towards Western gaming.

In my personal experience, the average individual at least online doesn't care where you're from. I've communicated with Jap gamers in PSO2 and they didn't seem to hate me. I had a few Jap phrases to copy and paste into chat and, unless I was ignorant of something and just didn't notice, they didn't mind my company.


So, it isn't outdated to not know about the biggest online retailer of digital games?
It's a derogatory term. It means someone who's outside their group. Maybe it literally has non-offensive roots, it's grown into a derogatory term. Language does that.
It doesn't offend me personally, but that doesn't remove the intent of some people.


Did you get shit for trying to go to hotsprings/baths? Is that discrimination still a thing?

Next time try calling him a misogynist. That's an even more effective tactic in online arguments.

Japanese people I've talked to use it as either a slur or a general statement. They seem to expect foreigners not to understand certain things, and will comment on it.


his anecdote doesn't matter

pic is speccy from a pc-only Japanese gamer, he also does 3D rendering, but plays all his games on PC.

this is fun.

ah, he doesn't like uncharted 4. Instead of common ground though, some people on Holla Forums would assume the worst about this person, despite sharing their opinion.

This one plays Stalker. Did you know that Stalker has a huge Japanese player base? Some find it surprising, but you just don't hear about it regularly. See, popular PC games are popular worldwide.

This is actually a lot of fun. I totally recommend searching "洋ゲー" on social media, you'll find a lot of Japanese gamers sharing critique about games people in the West make. Some of it is very funny too.

Japan can't move on technology wise, the PC-98 was the best to time, and they can't adapt fast enough unless its phone base.

Japan is way behind when it just comes to business tech, which computers play a pivotal role in

Shit's weird

So, that's not a generalization? I'm not saying his opinion is wrong, but it's the same generalization about Jap games I hear on Holla Forums.


Apparently, the older generation is to blame. They don't want to move onto new tech, because young people aren't filling the job positions. Or rather, they aren't in positions of power, so they have no say. It's more workplace democracy that's weird.

yes, it's almost like what I've been saying, everyone everywhere says things like this.

Doesn't mean he's right, I'm sure you know some great western games he doesn't.

That's very true.


Nowadays games are part of nerdculture.

Tourists in Japan have a high tendency to act like niggers or clowns. Then they chimpout online because some Japanese woman looked at them with distrust or they are not allowed to hire geishas or some other dumb shit they are well within their rights to decide. I'm used to seeing English and German tourists in my country behaving like subhuman trash, so I have nothing but admiration for Japan and their ability to mostly keep them under control, and every time some dumb nigger starts crying xenophobia it that admiration only grows stronger. Just a reminder that you are not entitled to shit when you are a non-citizen visiting a country.

There's western games on PC though, Japan has pretty much nothing outside of consoles.

Steam numbers are just shit.

I play TitS on my 5 year old laptop. Technically this makes me a PC gamer.

But that's like saying women play games because you count mobile.

I bet you dont even main the platform weeb

I'm going to be a picky bastard here and request a japanese game that's not a game with lolis or women as main characters. Stuff like say Gigantic Army or Gunhound EX.

BANNAM did release MSGO which is a big step, the game has lost a bit of it's popularity due to the shitty power creep but it showed there is a market for PC games

FF13-3 is an excellent port though.

The problem is that Japanese devs contract WESTERN devs for porting their games.

Look at the credits of your Japanese game next time. You'll see.

I'm being facetious, but do you mean a PC exclusive game, or just any game? Because that isn't difficult to do.


I forgot about that. It's step in the right direction, though, you're right. I'm just saying they have some notorious ports under their belt, too.

Whatever's obscure and good. I mean I love shit like Black Maria Overdrive or that Megaman clone Rozasdiozxncouasodwhatever but no matter how hard I try I can't stop being bothered by playing with and against little girls. I don't know why I just can't let it go.

More like Korean and Chinese devs.

The only shooters Japan played that were active in my experience were MGO2 and LP2, don't know if Lost Planet is still active but they all moved to MGO3.

Literal weebshit tbhfsmh

As someone who lived with a Japanese exchange student for a year he gave what Japanese people views about PC gaming. PC's are for work or called "Porn Computers" at home.

Like their attitudes towards tattoos which most are getting as body art and not apart of the mafia its a very slow transition. Game stores usually don't carry copies of PC games like they do here so most who play PC games are fan translated from English to Japanese subtitles by Westaboo's.

Japanese developers know about the PC market in the west but cater mostly at home to console markets and hope the publisher will allow them to port to PC. Its starting to happen and we can hope it will become second nature.

Was 3 the one with a long button memorization puzzle that used the fucking ps2 button symbols on pc?

I hope they can do that more since the console market is doing quite bad there, Phones game scams are eating all their money for games.

You never hire a Korean to do a man's job.

Real PC exclusives are dead anyway, it's all ports now. Luckily the PS4 is basically just a mid range laptop.

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that feel when half my favorite games are Japanese games for PC

Because arcades are still relevant there.

I, too, enjoy masturbation.

who doesn't?
But even minus porngames I still have plenty nip PC games I adore

if the nips want to port their console games over they can do it themselves
they can hire us to port them over if they want but we'll fuck them up AND take their money to boot

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pirate the dlc and crack the game. costume destruction mods use a program called autolink(easy install, drag into game directory) which also is the real easy way to add costumes to the game. got shitty costumes you dont like seeing the ai use? go to char select, select that costume and select the custom one you want in details(all costumes added using autolink appear under "details" in any costume for a character), then press ctrl+0 to save that costume you selected as the default. now the ai will use it instead of the shit one

and if you actually want to have some other costumes added in as extra slots then you can either read up on the dlc tool or find a dlc pack someone already put together
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I like living in socal as our German tourist problem solves itself. They hike in the desert with little water and die. Maybe Japan needs a tourist trap.

Other than Eroge, VNs, or the occasional grindfest MMO, gaming is only really popular for handhelds in nippon. Vita and 3DS sales are pretty great in nipland. Hell, even the PSP had a massive lifespan because of the success it had there. Also

And they would fare better with their old view of tattoos. I have yet to see a tattoo that would really beautify someone (if it not comes to covering scars with them, for example) besides the usual attention whoring aspect. It's burgers in the wrong on the issue, not nips.

*if it doesn't come

tattoos in burgerland used to be something only prisoners got

The operative word is "used".

true, japs have horribly stressful life, and after 16 hours of works/ school they can only play vidya while commuting to home to sleep, or vice versa

Damn OP try playing something without a casual-as-fuck battle system. I just got Trails in the Sky on PC and am getting Phantom Brave when it releases next month. No complaints from me.

Because "Oh touhou? Ret me instarr Windows…"

That's not fucking real. Why didn't someone tell them about ReactOS? it's only 100MB.

reactos doesn't work with real hardware

There some unreal hardware I'm unaware of?

PC is a white concept that Japs can't into. it's simple when you think about. the white hyperborians of EVROPA used PCs since the 80's instead of consoles.
"but user", you may ask. "in America they used consoles alot xD".
well the thing is, only poor shitskins loved consoles. the true masters of discipline used PCs and played true games that stimulated the aryan nerves, those who didn't have shitskin genes inside them or are lower class peasants who fell for jewish scemes.
notice how nowadays the only people who love consoles are spics and niggers.
PC is the true aryan gamming platform

virtual machines

:^)

MGSV PC port was by far the best version though. Maybe you be playing shit games?

I don't know. MMD doesn't seem all that complicated.

Fuck you.

shitskin proves my point

They've done the wrong thing much like you scum, and they neither want to pay for it.

The scum however prominant do not count.
They aren't Japanese, or anything, they are nothingness, like you.

Some in Japan try to do right, if paying attention to how they are seemingly received they'd see no reason to. Better they know the right stuff is out there, without looking to confirm it. Language and distance may help that. Pretending you know other worlds and they are small enough to fit into your perception, it is for cowards who for beauty to be has to be away from.

Haven't even read your post, I'm talking about what's next to it.

He was talking about the 'trypophobia' pic, not your post. Although it's clear you're just shitposting; if you wanted your post to be taken seriously you would of not used a bait tier pic.

It's peanut butter

Of course PC prebuilt/part sales are declining. More and more people are getting their shit set up and the market has been stagnant for so long that there's no reason to upgrade.

The PC hardware sales are a problem that has more to do with stagnation and an indie market that is actually appealing to retards and doesn't require a powerful rig. That's part of the reason why newer hardware line is putting so much attention into affordability.
PC gaming user base isn't shrinking, Steam is expanding and that's most of the PC gaming market.

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Yep tatoos were for gangs and sailors.

No idea how it became mainstream.