Who are the top vidya characters of your childhood Holla Forums? What became of them...

Also, Sony was doing nothing that Sega wasn't doing before them. Shit was X-TREEM in the '90s. It was common in everything from vidya to comics to cartoons to treat kids as more adult and appeal to an older audience, or at least an audience that wanted to feel older.

There is this post circling around explaining that but I think it because the press shat on the PS3 so much. Also, the gaming press became full faggot at the 7th gen and E3 became a press only event.

All I want for Christmas is a PSP.

So you think the press shat on PS3 so hard that they legitimately stopped liking video games and only like walking simulators now?

And Sony's attempts at viral marketing (which a lot of companies were trying to do at the time) were particularly disastrous for video games overall because… I don't get this one. It was shit marketing, but it basically just came back to bite them on the ass, and that was pretty much the only effect it had.

No, E3 became a press only event to better damage control things. The press and publishers relationship grew stronger. SJWs came a lot later with the indie scene boom.

I'm saying that Sony did a lot of underhanded viral marketing and I was implying that there was more like Neogaf. Besides, it didn't do that much damage. Sony was able to start a hash that litterally says that they are pro-consumer.

I suddenly realized that more people probably know angry birds than some of these characters we are talking about.

Yeah, if this new movie doesn't manage to do any better than the games then Lara will be in hot water I imagine. Ghostbusters and TFA at least have/had nostalgic adults buying tickets, but Tomb Raider doesn't have that, and probably won't be able to stir up as much SJW controversy as Ghostbusters did, because people don't give as much of a fuck about Lara, and she was already a woman. This movie will probably do little to reinvigorate Lara's popularity, just as the old ones have no doubt faded from memory. Unless it turns out to not be mediocre at best that is, but I'm not enthusiastic.

Yeah, I'll agree to that.

I may not have properly explained myself on the topic of Sonic. What I meant to say was that there would be massive overlap between him and the others I mentioned, like if somebody only played Sonic in Sonic's early days, then they surely played/were aware of Zelda, and if a kid watched the cartoons then he probably plays video games and knows all these characters we've been talking about. If I truly overestimate Zelda's fame it's because I've met a notable amount of normalfags who say they were really into OoT and MM as kids. To clarify: when I say normalfags I mean like meathead jocks and party-holic chads, neither of which even own any video games, or would have a reason to lie about that shit, not hipsters or beta preppyfags. I agree with you though, that Sonic is something else entirely.

I doubt that. This would imply Zelda had the cultural penetration of Sonic, and I don't think it did. Sonic was everywhere, Sonic was a system seller. I'm sure there were many kids who got a Genesis purely for Sonic, and couldn't name many other characters at all. Sonic had two TV shows at the same time, and a comic book that is still going almost 25 years later. Sonic was the pack in game with the console. Sonic was fucking huge, and is still relatively huge compared to most.

Not at all, it would imply if a person likes Metallica, then they probably know who Pantera is.

Either way, this discussion has gone too far from what I was trying to say in the first place: Nintendo has lots of characters that are highly recognizable. That doesn't necessarily mean that a person who has never touched a video game knows them all, but if they have then they'll know them.

Aw man the commander keen games give me heavy nostalgia. Guess I'm happy they did not attempt another sequel to ruin everything.. didn't they?