Just a friendly reminder that Trump is a far-rightist andvto vote for him is treason to the left

Just a friendly reminder that Trump is a far-rightist andvto vote for him is treason to the left.

You can vote for Jill Stein, Gary Johnson( please don't) and whoever else you want but voting for Trump is an insult to communism.

I'm baffled why anyone on here would think Trump is a leftist choice.

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Trump is the candidate less likely to start a devastating global thermonuclear war.

Explain to me what's wrong with accelerationism.

I fucking hate kkklinton but trying to say that she wants to start WW3 is retarded.

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Why would porky be ready to end the world? Why didn't they do it a long time ago if it was their plan all along?

Voting is an insult to communism anyway.

The results when?

Keep this reformist shit in the general you fag

Also why would porky want to destroy the people they're gaining from?

This is supposed to be leftypol not infowars.

this is NOT what we meant by shimkaze being better as a boy

$0.50 has been deposited to your account. Thank you for correcting the record

But seriously, he's not really going to do much that other Republican candidates like Ted Cruz would have done. Is there a specific reason (other than to avoid association with pol/acks\) to not vote for him?

hes anti immigration and also wants to start a trade war with China. He also had many similarities with hitler

Although i'm pro-immigration thats not necessarily a perspective universally held on this board because immigration in its current state is primarily a tool for neo-liberal elites to maximise their profits.

As for a trade war, in what way is that anti-leftist? And in what way is a potential real war with Russia as Hilary might pull off more leftist?

It's 2016, why aren't you a posadist?

Russia is so sure Clinton will start war that they accelerated their anti-missile satellite launch schedule when she "won" the primary. Stuff that was supposed to launch in January started going up in August.

friendly reminder that people actually believe this shit…

Why do people belive this shit, this retard has clearly stated time and time again that he considers the possibility of using nuclear weapons, that he will attack iran in the case they launch missiles towards an US vessel and that he will increase the military spending

moreover, its crystal clear to see how he will become corrupted once porkies offers him money to let them keep creating conflicts in the middle east, forgetting all his anti-war rethoric he might once have said

How much money would you have to give

DONALD FUCKING TRUMP

to turn him?

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Because if Trump or Clinton gey 50.1% of the vote, the media will spin it as either a ringing endorsement for Obama and how all's well, or a revolution from the far-right.

Trump changes his views every week dude.

Why don't you go back to 4chans Holla Forums and tip your fedora with all the other alt-righters

we are talking about nuclear war with russia


literally all he wanted? fiat currency can be printed on demand, plus if he refuses they can turn him into ashes

all far-right principles

what the fugggg I was going to post this image :DDD

Only Donald Trump Raises Five “Fundamental and Urgent” Foreign Policy Questions: Stephen F. Cohen Bemoans MSM’s Dismissal of Trump’s Queries


counterpunch.org/2016/05/23/only-donald-trump-raises-five-fundamental-and-urgent-foreign-policy-questions-stephen-f-cohen-bemoans-msms-dismissal-of-trumps-queries/

Ignoring the dumb thing you said at the end, what makes those two positions anti-left? I'm not pro-immigration if the influx has the potential to detrimentally impact the culture of the country bringing them in. And for what reasons should Americans abide by China buying them out? It's hurting Americans in-country economically.

I would have said Mussolini but its not that dumb tbh

So, so much better

There is no such thing.

Oh also thats another reason why Trump is retarded,

Anti-immigration is bad because it separates people based on race or national identity rather than class, and a trade war with China would be because it would to lead a war and attempted plunder of foreign countries for American imperialism. Any other stupid questions?

It's not about national debt; it's about foreign buyers taking everything. Whether he attributes it to the debt or not, the reality is that American resources are being bought by foreigners who have no investment in securing USA's citizens.

thats all they need to tell him to stop him from engaging in any anti-NATO rethoric

This is infowars tier autism.

Globalism is bad, but it isn't some immediate reptillian threat like you fags make it out to be.

Now go back to Holla Forums where you belong, you're obviously not a leftist and you're even terrible at being a socdem.

Better yet kill yourself.

For the former, no, we already are separated by nationality, and we aren't all globalists hoping to destroy borders. The US is not Syria or Somalia or Pakistan, and it has no obligation to bring outsiders in if it is a risk to internal social balance (See: Germany). As for the imperialist war, what leads you from point A to B there? If Trump promotes American industry and export, how is that going to aggravate China so much it leads to war?

Being for completely open borders is a core leftist value, if you do not hold it you are a far rightist and do not belong on leftypol.

Actually, the exact problem is that it has been a gradual problem which we now have to really deal with. Further, I'm not American. I'm actually speaking from a Canadian perspective, where we are already living the effects of Chinese buyers who do not live here nearly destroying the housing market. Economists here have pretty much just come out and said it will burst and we will have to take the brunt of the hit in the form of cheap houses and no jobs.

These are fucking bourgeois state. We are proletarians. They are outsiders to us.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

The United States is China's largest trading partner, they are not going to take kindly to losing such a big partner. Also, a trade war =/= full blown out war.

Boy this board and it's memes

Hillary will obliterate Iran:
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So if I might vote for Trump because I don't want a war fanatic for the president, I'm a "far rightist"? You sound like a Hillary supporter.
And by the way, open borders is today a core neoliberal value because it opens a market for the competition among workers.

So, you think the proletariat benefits from having waves of immigrants who are in need of immediate work and who have no cultural integration whatsoever essentially overturning the areas where we live?

but I tought capitalism and free markets were good Holla Forums?

This is full blown autism. Why would she start a war? Because back in 2001 she voted for the Iraq war? She was uneducated about the situation.

Shes not a perfect communist candidate and I would rather have someone better. Saying Trump is better than Hillary, however is delusion and makes me think you are only saying that to show your parents how rebellious and intellectual you are when in reality it makes you look like a tinfoil hat wearing dumbass.

Hillary isn't corrupt nor is she evil. She's stupid and incompetent, but she's better than trump.

Ah, I misread your initial argument. But that brings up the more immediate point that Trump already stated full stop that he was willing to impose tariffs on China, and I fail to see the problem with that if the American economy is being overrun by them. Do you not think it is better for the working class to have control over what they create and export? I sure do.

you have to go back to tumblr

Had to go full-retard at some point.

The proletariat benefits from being united. The only nation of proletarians is the proletariat itself. Its only culture, the culture of class struggle. The only "integration" to be requested from them, the integration in the revolutionary movement.

It's true though. People want to believe she is because America loves its political drama.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CORRECTING THE RECORD.

PLEASE GET THE FUCK BACK TO /R/PROGRESSIVE AND LEAVE US ALONE

TRUMP 2016, CRASH THIS PLANE WITH NO SURVIVORS 2016

Then you have no sense of praxis whatsoever. There are huge divides between people culturally, and to assume that poor Islamic fundamentalists or rich Chinese "communists" are in any way similar to or have any investment in the proletariat of North America is ludicrous.

Chairman Jimmy Dore is scared of Hillary more:
youtube.com/watch?v=y0U0wGAlpgM


You don't have to be from Holla Forums to be afraid of Hillary.


Why would Trump crash this plane? It's not going to be pretty, a lot of turbulence, but Hillary is more likely to crash it.

What is ludicrous is to assume that you, class traitor, have any investment in socialism.

Okay, Comrade Melodrama.

It's literally never worked, making conditions worse just makes the right more powerful.

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You have to go back

Just read the emails

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Again, the latter has had provable, detrimental effects on the working class of multiple countries, including Germany, Sweden, Greece, and Canada. I'm all for socializing every country, but I would prefer it to happen country by country, and then we can work on eliminating the need for borders, but until then, there are leagues of difference between countries which cannot be adequately accounted for until it's effect have well broken the patience of the citizens, the people you claim to care about.

In 2008 I voted for obama to troll America.

In 2016 I'm going to vote for Trump to troll the world.

My autism would not allow for any other choice.

has well*

nationalism . . . yes
anti immigration . . . no
anti-intellectual . . . wat ._.

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pls kys bucko

Go read what Putin said fam.

Or we can listen to KKKlinton's own words. She's ready to go to war the day she walks into the Oval Office.

Capitalism has provable, detrimental effects on the working class of multiple countries.

Trump will destroy the right from the inside out.
He's the best thing to happen in politics in a long time.
Accelerationism full throttle babay.

HE IS LITERALLY HITLER GUISE

seriously consign yourself to your own gaschambers please

If we're talking just about the right wing, then yeah, he is a bit, but even the right wing establishment really hates him. If we're talking about the political situation in general then Hillary is the accelerationist candidate, she's the one that's going to intensify what we already have, she's the one that's going to drive faster in the direction we're already going.

Nah. The spectacle will be more fun to watch with that baboon in white house.

Obvious, but unrelated.

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No, I'm advocating healthy social relations and not driving hundreds of thousands of working class people out of their jobs. The best way to reform the system is by gradually restructuring the government, not by flooding poorer areas with people who have no cohesion in society only to displace workers who are already there and potentially cost them their jobs as well. That is antithetical to the welfare of the workers.

You'll never have your worker's revolution if you keep importing sub-80 IQ muds who can barely read let alone comprehend leftist political theory

Comrade please, those Chinese immigrants in Canada have higher IQ than "natives".

I wonder who is behind this post…


But those jobs end up fucking them over anyway. Are you the kind of person that looks at Chinese slave labour and thinks "well, at least they HAVE a job"?

So, why not support Trump? His whole campaign is about stopping immigration? even though Hilary will probably end up being far more effective and ruthless at attacking immigration she'll make Trump's wall look like a fucking joke. Pic related

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I like east asians, but not so with African rapists and mudslim terrorists the likes of which we have been importing. Toronto is going to be a hotbed of terror a la London in a few years if it isn't already.

It's not even realistic for trump to win anymore

No, in human biology. Doi.


I'm Canadian, for one, so it doesn't matter who I support; I'm just fleshing out the arguments here. Two, Hillary's presidency will result in Assad being overthrown and then there will be another huge extremist blowout. Both are horrible options, but Trump achieves more things I care to see out of the next president. I hope he really does wind up being a tornado in the republican party, for example.
Oh, and Hillary is bought and paid for by pretty much everyone you ought to hate, I mean, unless you're a fan of capitalist oligarchies.

Literally what the fuck?

Literally take any high-school biology class or read any book on human evolution?

What does that even mean?

Trump isn't even far right on social issues. And hell if you consider neo-liberalism to be the purest expression of porky today, Trump is left of Clinton.

It means that he'll get triggered if you apply racehorse theory to humans.

want.

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Humans generally function well in close proximity if they get along. We have a strong capacity for getting along due to our biological makeup. Doi. This capacity is stretched to its limits when tension is introduced, for example, when floods of foreigners with low investment in the places they are shipped to wind up displacing the people already there.

Anti-immigration is a rational protection of a nations working class.


Literally not even a thing as things stand. Do you think there is solidarity between the americans losing jobs and the Chinese gaining them? Of course there isn't. Some of you people here need to pull your head out your ass and see the realities of the day.

If genetic manipulation becomes safe and easy, I won't really care if people start making designer babies. They'll most likely do better than any of us ever will.

Goddamn, thank you.

That doesn't change the fact that right now, before perfected genomics, abbos and africans are subhumans who shouldn't be polluting better gene pools.

Not all Holla Forums thinks this. In fact very few do. We think the jews own it all and as such want it ripped down. Nice try, thanks for playing.

Why don't you go back to Holla Forums?

Psst, that doesn't mean what you think it means…

Psst, go back to/pol/…

Do you know she is the person most directly responsible for the state of Libya today? Gaddafi was seeking a peaceful settlement. Clinton ignored the outreach. The result was a fractured Libya part dominated by islamists. Clinton has never yet met a war she doesn't like. Her department was likely the original source of the letter recently calling for war with Syria.

Fuck this rancid cunt. I hope the next clot kills her.

So is Jill.


ibtimes.com/jill-stein-news-green-party-nominee-claims-hillary-clinton-scarier-donald-trump-2431507

Do you have a source for that?

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So, then, are you retarded enough to believe your biology determines nothing? Jumping from one extreme to the next is not clever or novel; it's stupid.

African proto-apes are just as likely to have a successful life as the average Norwegian you bigot racist

The IMF and co themselves recently came out and admitted this. There have been 'winners and losers'. The winners are the globalist elite who can afford to buy up factories in the east and, according to the IMF, the workers who get to work 16 hour days in conditions reminiscent of Victorian Britain. The losers have been the working class in the first world.

You bleeding heart internationalists are the fucking worst.

This too.

If the course of events is going to be largely the same regardless, why not put a guy with literally zero experience in the roll? Surely this will at least trip the system up a little?

I am the one arguing against internationalism, guy.


Stop being weird.

Oh but it does determine some things. But all the biology in the world won't give you "healthy social relations" in capitalism.

Just admit you don't like Trump cause he has hurt your fees.

Yes but I'll have to dig it out. It was in the emails. Will be back.

foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/06/emails-show-qadaffi-son-offered-talks-but-clinton-ordered-top-general-to-not.html

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foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/09/clinton-march-18-2011-email.html

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I know. This was in support of your case.

I should have ended it 'the bleeding heart internationalists'

I would say you to vote for Jill, but being realistic, democracy in the US is a myth, you have to choose between Tromp or the socipath


Yeah, is not like she has already sugested she wants to invade Iran.. you are retarded

Democracy in itself is a myth m8.

Don't you mean a…nigger

I doubt it

Which candidate do I vote for to die as FAST as possible?

Write me in. If elected I will personally kill every American with a hammer.

What planet do you live on?

>The US is not Syria or Somalia or Pakistan

Yeah, it obviously isn't, but maybe if American imperialism would stop destroying those places, like Syria, maybe so much immigration wouldn't be needed. Destroying Syria and then discriminating against Syrians is just genocidal at this point.

Competition between Chinese business and American business will eventually lead to war between the nations as companies continually need to invest in new markets to survive. It's part of the reason why the U.S. invades countries that nationalize oil or other resources, to free those up to private investment. Conflict between imperialist (capitalist) states will eventually lead to a new World War, and we can see that with Russia and the U.S. today. You are naive to think that China wouldn't be either involved in that or fight the U.S. in the future.

Your focus on defending "American workers" by dick sucking American business interests only works if you think that nationalist protectionist capitalism somehow benefits workers any more than free trade.

The people opposed action in Syria. Fuck this notion of our politicians doing something then us being told to just suck it up in terms of consequence. This is also part of the reason Trump is doing so well. We don't get many opportunities to hit the political elite where it hurts so you've got to grab em when you can.

I know many of you here consider yourself radical. But you do less than fuck all. In many cases you end up covering for the very political elite that are to blame. See OP.


It does. At least american workers.

This. The protectionist meme needs to die.

This is the exact kind of shit I would expect to see on facebook, not Holla Forums.

good lad

comparing trump to hitler literally == those SJWs on tumblr who want to kill all white people

CTR isn't trying anymore

How dare people look out for their own interests?

But Donald Trump will stop the islamists from coming in making it a lot safer to be gay in the US. If you're not islamaphobic then you're homophobic.

Trump is a better choice than Gary Johnson

trump is the antiwar antiexpansionist vote, it might make you feel dirty to vote for him but its a fact.

Stein is the equivalent to thumbing your asshole, and hillary is a hawk that will drag us into more war

this is all that matters right now, everything else is idpol

vote with your conscience

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What, because you think your vote matters? That it will make the slightest difference regarding your bourgeois state imperialist policy?

ID YOU VOTE JILL STAIN, HILLARY WILL GET MAJORITY AND WIN

VOTING FOR JILL = MATHEMATICALLY VOTING FOR HILLARY!!

calling something bourgeois doesnt make it less real numbnuts, how often do I have to say this, the real world doesnt conform to your autistic theoretical standards, everything is buji, you are a fucking buji in all likelihood, alone the fact that you are here typing this confirms that.

would there be a fundamental difference between trump and hilldogs foreign policy? yes there fucking would at, you willfully ignorant mong, alone in regards to russia

Trump is a megalomaniac wildcard but hes STILL better than hillary, we know exactly what we are getting with hillary.

if you are so above it all why dont you make like a tree and fuck off to some remote island bitch so I dont have to hear your whinging

as for my vote itself mattering, well thats kinda hard to say, it could all be rigged but if I dont vote it definitely wont matter

what exactly are you trying to say faggot, are you denying that hillary is far more likely to drag us into a war?

thats my only point here, your buji this buji that is irrelevant

Trump is literally the lesser evil. He's bad, but Hillary is much more horrible. I understand that some people don't see that, but that's because there's now been a year of propaganda that tries to make Hillary look good and stable, and Trump look like a monster. Even when people don't agree with Hillary, something of that propaganda still sticks, and now they can't even see anymore the reality of her war fanaticism. She's pushing for a nuclear war for fucks sake.

No there fucking wouldn't.

Yo I'm a 4AM waifu tripfag and even I'm not as delusional as you faggots. Just stopping by. to tell you that.

of course there would you arrogant imbecile, again we just have to talk about russia, the amount of mouthfrothing sabre-rattling that hillary has been complicit in is astounding, she is deeply in the pocket of the same neocon-neolib globalist actors that were behind bush, obama, and pretty much every other administration of the past 20+ years.

trump on the other hand has been suprisingly reasonable in regards to russia, most notably when he shut down Jeb! over his nofly zone bullshit in syria, and of course the classic line


he has attacked nato expansion, Iraq. afghanistan, Libya, all of these things that hillary has been complicit in.

even if he backs down on a lot of things and is coopted, there is still a fundamental difference between him and the hoofed one at this moment in time, and you look a dribbling fucking tard that is arrogant on top of it all when you claim otherwise

it really is this, there is such a thing as a lesser evil and trump is it.

it fucking pains me to vote for him as well, the man is like a walking stereotype of things I hate, a pure con-artist robber-baron captialist loudmouth cunt, but hes still better than the opposition, who are literal sociopaths

Montoya dot pee enn gee

Crack open a history book you uneducated silly cunt. Trump is not far right, fucktard.

"Treason to the left"? What will you send people to gulags? Are they class enemies?

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you need help my friend I feel bad for you son

never forget that

YOU TOO CAN BE REBUILT

Aren't most of the leftists calling for a Trump presidency either being ironic or are accelerationists?

The thing is, Trump is porky. Sure, he might not be easy to bribe, but that doesn't matter when he has exactly the same goals as the people who would want to bribe him.

Putting Trump in charge of the government is equivalent to getting a fox to guard a chicken coop. It doesn't matter how good the fox is at fighting off other predators - your chickens are still going to get eaten.

Hillary is accelerationist: same direction at faster speed.

not at all, a leftist calling for trump is a man that realizes we are in a fucked situation already, and is trying to make the best of it

All men can be bought for the right price tbh

I don't see how voting for either Hilloli or Trouble with Trumples will help anyone either way tbh

Personally it's more a matter of trying to make sure the right gets the blame rather than the left. Both Trump and Clinton are going to cause immeasurable suffering, so it's better for that suffering to be associated with "the right". It might swing the Overton window to the left.

I don't live in the US though so I can't vote. Even if I could, I'd probably vote for a third party over either of them.

youtu.be/Z0GFRcFm-aY

I can actually agree with this tactic

Which is almost exactly what I said.

I wasn't disagreeing with you tbh

Yes, and republican establishment hates him! The only reason I'd recommend voting for Trump instead of Stein is to ensure that Hillary doesn't win.

Wew lad. And I am the arrogant one?

I don't see how Hillary is worse than Trump tbh. One's the same thing we've had since Obama, one's the same shit WWE style.

so this is really just a board where Holla Forums goes to be edgy when fascism isn't cutting it so they pretend to be commies

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.50 Rare Pepes have been deposited in your account, than you for making Palmer Luckey great again

it might not but its better than doing nothing

oh fuck off, im not saying its the end all be all but theres a less shitty choice and thats trump, your pretentious faff about the state of man doesnt change that.

The president of burgerlandia still has a suprising amount of power as much as impotent liberals and their ilk like to claim otherwise, just look at all the excecutive orders obamer signed

you know what gives me the most hope that he might actually do something that opposes the establishment?

He has his own security detail

nigga ive been shilling for trump here since the debate with Jeb! (plz clap)

dont you have rocks to throw at somebody or something? look to the left. Now look to the right. congrats you just saw two Police agents

Holla Forums really is just the alt-right with a fetish for muh soviet aesthetics

This for example: Those are not some soft positions but the opposite of Hillary and quite controversial for America. Especially his continuous call for good relations with Russia is miles better than Clinton sending submarines, nuclear warheads and NATO army to Russia's border, and going to war with Russia and Syria by enforcing no-fly zone there.
Hillary is already heavily integrated into the government, in all those institutions and so on, she will only make things smoother for them, especially for the military-industrial complex.

Can we plz stop with this "It's better than doing nothing!" shit? The left is massively behind on theory, both parties are equally right-wing at this point, frankly, we need to sit back for awhile and figure shit out before we try anything again.

No. US capital has a surprising amount of power.

You're funny, I'll give you this.

Do I really need to spell this out for you?

If you actually support Trump for his policies (and not because you think he's the lesser evil, or bigger evil, out of accelerationist sentiment) chances are you are not a leftist, yes.

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Just dumb memes tbh.

I doubt anyone thinks he has "good" policies, even a lot of his supporters don't think he's actually good (watch some interviews why they vote Trump). It's a combination of a lesser evil, of symbolic (ofc not material) rejection of the status quo, and of ceasing to pretend that people give consensus to the establishment by voting for their boring establishment candidates that they force on us.

So it's masturbatory symbolic resistance, essentially?

If all the media say that Trump will crash the system, and people vote for Trump, then that's a pretty clear refusal to consent to the system and its blackmail, even if we all know Trump won't change much (except foreign relations). The legitimacy of the democratic system is based on the ideology of consent and once that ideology is shattered, the system doesn't have any legitimacy anymore. This is a sentiment that needs to be built up among the general population. People are hostages of the system and they have a Stockholm syndrome. We need to snap them out of that.

Wouldn't staying at home be more efficient than voting for a billionaire in that regard?

I'm not sure if it would be more efficient, since Trump is presented to us as evil incarnated. Absenteeism isn't such a big deal in comparison.

oh god, you are again trying to make this meta, yer even using Italics, jaysus nigga

youre not fucking wrong but I dont get a chance to vote on the influence of capital upon the US political system in the next election, I have two shitty choices and one is less shitty even though its basically the equivalent of flipping off your teacher/voting for the class clown, like

says, yes basically symbolic pseudo-resistance

it is better than nothing though, voting takes a few minutes, you can fucking vote for orange pepe man and still do something real, the two do not counteract each other, and nonvoting is shit, why, its like voting for stein in the hope that she willll get a few % which will somehow scare the establishment 4 years down the line?

thats feckin worthless, you might as well vote, and trump is unfortunately the best choice

1. Trump is objectively better than hillary at this moment in time, yes.

2. trump is a part of AN establishment, hes a fucking real estate mogul with mob ties ffs, but hes not in the same club as hilldog and co, they did not expect him to get this far and he has turned to be a bit of a kink in the old colon.

maybe he wants to get into that club and will be even worse in the long run, but that is still speculation. At this moment in time, no he is not a member of "the establishment"

3. Racial Tensions are being stoked by all kinds of people right now, not exactly a new game bruh, the best fucking thing we can do for muslims is get the fuck out of the ME and stop covertly funding wahhabis psychopaths, everything else is idpol.

The police/prison problem is more complex and requires serious reform, unlikely to come from trump but honestly that shit pales in comparison to trying to avoid a war

what would you suggest we do on election day instead? just be smarmy and enlightened like you?

Why would you do something like this to my wonderful Shima?!

It has little to do with actual resistance, the point is to build consciousness in each person that other people are against the establishment as well. Remember that Žižek's point about how nobody actually believes in the system but goes along because others seem to believe? Well, a public display that we all don't believe in it is one way of doing that.

*of undoing that.

I agree to an extent, its astounding how many "normal", integrated people will tacitly agree that the system is kinda fucked if you bring it up in the right way, usually while drinking

it kinda reminds me of the anarcho argument about breaking windows and shit, they say "sure breaking that ATM isnt gonna crash the bank, but joe schmoe is gonna walk by the next morning and see that there are other people that hate the fucking bank even more than he does"

fox has one good analyst they barely ever bring on and he said pretty much the same thing as you, trump is percieved as anti-establishment, the one point where you will find bipartisan majority support in legit polls is that people distrust the establishment, and if he keeps touting this line he will probably win

its basically a collective midlle finger

Jewish invention

What are you talking about? LOL this isn't some unspoken truth. You don't need to get someone drunk to admit this. I think it'd be harder to find someone who doesn't think the system is messed up.

I'm not so sure, you have a lot of conformist reddit types that collectively worship the most banal goodies of the system. You need to make them really comfortable before they're not embarrassed to admit that the situation isn't actually that fulfilling. Since they expect everyone else to dogmatically believe, they try not to deviate, it's the path of least resistance.

Is this the official CTR thread?

Why don't you read it and find out?

..in my experience you have to be a wee bit careful honestly, there are certain…whats the word ahh yes sacred cows that you need to maneuver around if ye catch my drift..

No, that would be Stein or Johnson.

I thought Counterpunch was a little more woke than this. Disappointing.

Clinton is leftist now?

Seriously, she has the whole fucking world in her pockets, Trumpt might be a disgrace but at least he stands for something.
Hillary has no real side, she pretends she is democrat but it's clear she's there as a puppet.

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It's the whole system that's corrupt.
It's like a knife, in concept you're supposed to cut your meals with it, in pratice some people cut each other like savages.

We're forced with the lesser of two evils but that's only because the whole system is corrupt.

25 cents have been added to your bank account. Keep on correcting the record!

No mate, you don't have two shitty choices: you've got no choice. None whatsoever.

The only choice you got is about a name and a face.

How is Donald Trump any more of a far rightist than Gary Johnson?

Because hes raysissss

Reminder for my Anarchist friends that OP is what "the left" looks like. I can do WHATEVER I WANT OP YOU PIECE OF SHIT. I feel like voting for Trump now simply out of spite and absolute contempt (still not going to).
"Treason to the left".
Doing whatever the fuck I DECIDED TO DO ON MY OWN.
"Treason".

You are an Insult to communism…
Communism is a lie, and cannot work, any attempts to say otherwise is childish "Bbbbbut not my version" wishful thinking.

You two are correct, but you both sound like fags from facebook

Not true. Many of us think that free market and capitalism can be good if there is few outside influence, and if the government check for unfair advantages or monopolies.

Right now, the main problem is the jew mafia at the top 1% of all these entities, using it and importing subhumans to lower their costs, ruining the goyim country in the process (they don't care)