VR FAGS BTFO

VR FAGS BTFO

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As much as I like Ross, this doesn't really beat the fuck out of it. also


You don't even have to have the video, just the audio.


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I don't get this motion sickness everyone talks about.

Gee I wonder what is happening

Worked great for the Sega Saturn!

Stay salty

But the guy in the OP embed has a Rift. He's just listing off problems with it.

Just dont respond to any comments going on about "muh sour grapes"

Fuck off, retard.

This is a thing

God, he's such a man.

I don't own either the Oculus or the Vive, but when I tried my coworkers Vive I shit a brick.
DCS World was legit as fuck with it.

I really don't understand.
At what point did VR threads become shitflinging contests? You don't have to try and look cool on Holla Forums.

Does any such person exist? I dont even think the typical normalfagwould buy into all this vr shit craze

What else would the be? Talking about the showelware that is VR catalog?

I have a poorfag friend who works at a grocer who is thinking of upgrading their machine and investing in VR.
They have zero VR games they really want to play.
Although it is worth noting that this person is consistently awful with money.


There are a ton of already finished full games with decent to good VR support.

I dunno, the same wishful thinking we've all had our entire lives?
VR is just in a shitty place right now. I don't see what there is to talk about until things pick up.

This. I never get "motion sickness". Those who do probably suffer from some sort of epilepsy.

Typical Normalfag wouldn't be able to afford it or have anything to do with it. It's more to highlight buyer's remorse and the shills that keep insisting that VR is finally here. The amount of money to put down just to have no games worth playing is astounding that they even considered this to be worth shit outside of porn.

For a lot of people 500-800$ isn't that much, especially when you consider most early adopters are enthusiasts or developers, not average consumers.

That's still a small group of people since there is nothing for the average consumer to even look forward to.

Not going to deny that one bit.
Just understand that most people buying into VR right now are doing it knowing that the software side of things is still being figured out at a lot of companies.

Didn't they say they don't make money off the hardware, but on the software?

Ross you fag make more game dungeons

This. Holy shit. I hate all these dumb V-log updates.

Can't be the case with all VR headsets since in many cases (basically anything that isn't Rift), the hardware manufacturer isn't going to get a cut of software since it isn't published by the hardware manufacturer.
I think for Rift, though, a large part of their income strategy is their store.

It's a certain inner part of your ear that is used to sense motion that conflicts with what the eyes are telling the brain.

Isnt the industry saying that Sony will save vr ?

Is it because the Waifu game?

who am I kidding that will never happen

I suffer from motion sickness, basically when I play a FPS I get dizziness, when I make sharp turns is a real pain so I just play like an hour and then stop.
Think about a person that get dizzy in the car travel but instead he get dizzy watching a videogame

Yeah that's because of two things the first is your body is conflicting with your eyes in what the brain is told, and the second is that all the fun movements in vidya is completely unnatural irl. What this means is tank controls are going to be back motherfuckers.

What did we ever do to deserve Ross?

The only games where I dont get motion sickness are Doom series, Half-Life 1-2 expansions, Blood, Shadow Warrior, Return to Castle Wolfestein,Deus Ex and Hexen.
The modern FPS games make me sick for some reason. Maybe is the realism in the graphics, dunno.

As far I know, Ross hasn't changed mentally doing Freeman's mind up to now.

Oh your one of those dudes, I thought you were using VR. Yeah some people's brains just can't handle realistic looking pictures.

Well he has a DK1, that shit's outdated and causes astronomical amounts of motion sickness compared to more advanced HMDs. Might as well complained that Virtual Boy caused headaches and used that to make a point that VR suck.

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Yes all steam engine cars were shit and all VR is shit. Enjoy your buyer's remorse.

He experienced both a DK1 and a DK2, and even if motion sickness is completely dealt with the standard lighting and special fx devs use has got to go, the god rays makes the prospect of playing some games a nightmare.

No dude I'm saying this because I also own a DK1 and compared to newer ones it's shit. But I'm not going to buy any of them because they went full jew with release versions.

Just buy a Razer HMD. It's all around identical to the Cuckulus and Vulva ones, except it has superior oprics, it's open source, and it's $400.

And what the fuck was he expecting? Is he retarded or something? I'm serious, first time watching him (at least as far as I can remember, never bother with youtube idiots). The market is stupidly small, the HMD are expensive, you can't expect proper games any time soon since they can't make money out of said games. You will only have tech demos that early adopter retards will buy because they already wasted a shit load of money into getting the HMD and, sometimes, a better rig to run this properly. Valve once again made the right business decision, waste as little money as possible on the marketing of the thing, make sure to have a big profit margin per sale, don't go crazy with the production volume. The idea here is to make some money, test the waters, iron out the problems and prepare for the next line of VR HMD once the average rig catches up. GPUs are getting cheaper, soon, we will get good performance on VR with a 200 bucks card, that and cheaper CPU (which is what both AMD and Intel are going for now, not higher computing capacity) is what keeps people from having VR ready computers which would create a bigger market to justify proper VR game development.
Also worth mentioning, some of the reviews he is quoting are obviously wrote by retards. Example at 3:35: The god ray don't have shit to do with the display being used, it is not the CV1 fault that the developers of whatever demo that magazine reviewer was playing decided to include god rays everywhere. A lot of features work like shit on stereoscopic rendering, some rendering methods have awful performance too and stuff that isn't as useful on regular rendering scheme (such as dual GPU set ups) are very efficient (between 90-100% more performance when adding an extra card was reported on some games, SLI/cross fire is never that useful on regular displays).
There is a lot to work out with VR yet and what better to do it than to let retards beta test it while they pay for it? One of the main issues with VR are faggots with motion sickness, you can't really know how the bulk of the market is going to respond to that by just doing "market research", you need to get a shitload of people to try it so you can work out a solution, this is one of the things the early VR kits are doing.
There is also a bit of a tech-race going on between the tracking methods (Valve's passive approach and what OR is going for). The competition might end on this first generation too and that's a good thing for future VR kits.
If there was a big market for VR, the HMD shouldn't cost a lot more than 350 bucks (complete kit), buying before that happens is retarded.

The god rays are lens artifact, they exist even if you display solid white rectangle on pitch black background with nothing else in the picture. So yes it's absolutely the HMDs fault. And yes some rendering methods don't work in 3d, because they're only designed to work in 2d - no fucking shit, genius.

I wasn't paying full attention to what he was saying. The lens problem is usually called lens flare, not god rays, I thought he was complaining about the graphical features on the demo having a negative effect on the lenses themselves (something that does happen, some effects don't work well on HMD). My bad
Nice, very nice. Anyway, I was just pointing out that some stuff doesn't work or doesn't work as nicely, the intention behind releasing a proper product is to get more people to try the thing and to, also, get more demos developed for it so more rendering techniques, graphical features and whatnot are put to the test. The actual release of VR to a bigger market won't have to deal with that shit.

The YT;DW of it is that he wants 3d stereoscopic vision headsets since it'd be easier to do and implement among games that already exist and aren't tailor-made for VR.

He wants a working 3D display, not total immersion. And it makes me think that he's onto something.

If you're going to that just use a 3D monitor. It's the same fucking thing as this "theater mode" he describes but instead of a virtual theater it's your actual room with the 3D display in front of you. Not only that, there's already tons of shit compatible with it.

That idea defeats the purpose of VR. A purpose which was vaguely "3D + Head Tracking & maybe some motion controls"

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Years ago, the military's own ventures into VR showed that women were far more likely to suffer motion sickness.

Male brains tend to be able to better understand the depth of a 3D environment using both parallax motion, but female brains struggle with parallax motion and rely much more on lighting of an environment to understand their current location in a 3D space.

Modern video games/VR are really good at rendering parallax motion of objects, but when it comes to the lighting, there's always something that looks just a bit "off" about it. It's gotten better and better over time, but it's still not perfect, and if this imperfect system is the primary method by which your brain likes to process visual information, you're going to have problems.

If you're a man and are suffering from motion sickness due to video games or VR, then my advice is to make sure you aren't ingesting too much estrogen-like substances in your diet. Most commonly, products stored inside of plastics that contain BPA. Those military VR tests also showed that men who are taking estrogen end up losing their ability to process that parallax motion and would become motion sick. This is because hormones literally re-wire your brain to function differently.

The top image is male brain connectivity, and the bottom is female brain connectivity, with the male having far more front/back connections where as the female has more left/right connections.

using* parallax motion
The word "both" in there was a leftover where I said it also used lighting, but I removed it because I might be wrong or at least it has a diminished effectiveness for males, but I forgot to remove that word too.

Am I the only one that hates this fag's voice?

I think it's fine. Or at least, I've heard far, FAR worse from YouTubers.

"I've been waiting for this for 15 years"

Fuck off with this stupid ass meme. You have not been waiting specifically for VR for fucking 15 years. You saw it recently and thought "This reminds me of that one time in my childhood where I thought of the possiblity of VR/A holodec" That is NOT waiting for 15 years. Fuck off Ross.

In the 90s I played a very crude VR game that was invented in the 80s.

It was a multiplayer shooter that occasionally would have a pterodactyl swoop down and kill a player at random.

It was so popular that there's even an entire episode of Freakazoid devoted to it.

doing gods work, thanks fam

Here we go, I guess it was originally made in 1991? And was called Dactyl Nightmare.

Also, it seems that an earlier version of the game used crossbows as your weapon, and the later version in this footage that I played swapped out for some kind of gun.

Not VR, just you cowards.

VR remains good, it's construction, inplementation and users shouldn't have you lot taken into consideration.

You just want something to fail as your contentment you are better. Good things are only suffered from your presence.

OK then faggot.

VR is another shitty gimmick. It's going to sell well for a while due to all of the marketing being thrown around but then people will drop it just like they dropped motion controls, kinect and all sorts of shitty gimmicks before.

I can't wait for all the gullible idiots to spend all that money on this shit only to get a few shitty games because devs know that it's much easier to develop a traditional game than to develop a shitty vr game that will only sell to a small shitty niche.

tldr; vr is the new kinect.

you get used to it after you've watched freeman's mind

I tried a demo version of the Vive a few weeks back. I mean, it's at best a novelty, at worst, something like the Wii's motion controls in that everyone will take a stab at making a better version but won't fucking care within a couple of years.

I have seen enough.

Shut the fuck up, kike.

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I want to play great games like Half-life 1/2 and Morrowind again in amazing VR, not shit casual trash that will last only a few minutes.
Why the fuck hasn't anyone converted these classic games yet?

Yes he has. He has had videos asking for VR years ago. He owned bad VR devices in the 90s for example.

Also, does anybody here remember 3D gaming? The next BIG THING in GAMING? Remember when sony like 5 years ago developed a bunch of first party 3D enable games to sell with their line of 3D GAMING TVs? Remember when Microsoft also jumped on the hype train? Where did it all go?

Oh wait, maybe you guys remember the Playstation Dildo? You know, the next BIG THING in GAMING? Or perhaps you may remember the HUGE BIG THING in GAMING that would change GAMING forever? You know, the motherfucking KINECT that would put you right into fucking MINORITY REPORT or whatever that movie was called? Remember all the awesome games that came with it? Me neither.

The industry is filled with absolute morons in the higher up positions. There are people out there whose jobs rely solely in making the NEW BIG THING in GAMING. And then you have people whose jobs depend on selling that NEW BIG THING. They don't play video games, they have no idea what video games are or what people want and they don't give a fuck as long as they get paid at the end of the day.

I'd post that interview with that guy telling how marketing has ruined tech industry or whatever it was but I can't find it on youtube. VR is going to flop hard just like Kinect, and really, imo the Kinect is even more interesting than VR. Do you want to get a taste of what VR is going to be? Duct tape your fucking monitor and strap it on your face and there you go, having fun yet?

I mean, the 3DS is still around, but most people probably don't even use the 3D feature. I do tho. It's never hurt my eyes, for some reason.

I may be a fucking retard, but I thought 3D was pretty neat.
Expensive but neat nonetheless.

It is, it's really awesome. You know what else is awesome? Light guns! Also, steering wheels! and don't forget those flight controls for jet simulators! Those are pretty cool as well.

The problem however is not that it's not cool. The problem is that people don't care about that. How many people buy light guns, steering wheels or any other peripheral to play their games? Even worse how many games support those things. These things are destined to doom, they are nothing new, we've had these for decades and it's always a fad that end up with a few shitty games being released to support those things a lot of idiots with less money in their wallets.

These companies would be much better off investing all that money into video game studios to develop new exclusive games to sell their gaming platform or whatever. In less than 2 years people will be talking about VR as they are talking about Kinect today.

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I'm not saying it won't go that route, so many interesting things have gone down the shitter because the public saw it as "the cool next hip thing" and devs and peripheral manufacturers see quick cash and over saturate the market with absolute garbage.
I wish it was different, but it isn't. At least there's some good games that are made over time that support said devices. Maybe the same will be done for VR.

This man has a true love for video games, and is trying his best to save them. He deserves to be posted more. Yall should check out Dead Game News.

I think VR has potential, I'd be interested in more opinions from the gents who don't get the motion sickness and some actual QA for these games. At the moment it seems or seemed pretty shit, even before hearing what Ross had to say.

my only problem is that he has not looked at Razer's OSVR and other shit, but damn it's as if this video was made 6 months ago or something

This one with Steve Jobs?

That's the one. That's exactly what is ruining the gaming industry. Thanks.

I always imagined Ross as a nerd with square ass glasses

He looks metal as fuck

He looked like that a few years ago, but he grew his hair out.

He did look like he could be Gordon Freeman at one point, iirc.

Not seeing a webbum, mp4 or anything. So I'll just sage and report OP

You're retarded

Post is hidden due to niggerspeak

You stupid newfags, you are only supposed to mirror bad journalists

well shit, steve jobs talking about something and not making an ass of himself, thats not something you see often

You don't see it often because it last happened like twenty years ago and since then his company fell prey to pretty much exactly what he criticized.

Steve Jobs pretty much was a marketer thought. He had shitload of retards thinking his products literally ran on magic and that he could do no wrong.

I remember when the iPad was new and there were android tablets popping up to compete, I commented on Gizmodo (whom I had already grown to dislike but wasn't detached from yet) on a review they posted for an Android tablet that had what they referred to as an "eye straining" 2048×1536 resolution screen (or something around there, anyway). I said that they were full of shit, and when Steve Jobs announced the next iPad will have a high resolution screen they would herald is as "magic and revolutionary" like the good little fanboys they are.

I ended up being absolutely right about the display of the next iPad, and Gizmodo's opinion of it. The only thing I got wrong was that Steve Jobs was dead.

I doubt ingesting less estrogen is going to restructure your brain.

If you have less Estrogen in your system, your Testosterone will have a larger impact. It will have an affect, in more ways than one.

The only game I had any issue with was one where you jump 50 feet high and swing around like Tarzan.
My friend that owns the Vive has trained himself to be fine with that game just by pushing through the sick feeling for ~30 minutes a couple of times. He described it like a switch flicking in his brain and now nothing makes him sick.


Stop claiming there are biological differences between genders shitlord.
but seriously that is a quality post

Are we friends with the same guy?
He would spend entire paychecks on league skins.

He already talked about 3D monitors before, basically he says that modern ones aren't as good as an old 3D system from the early 2000's he had.

Report what? "Help vols my autism is not being catered to"

People are talking about new vidya tech in a vidya board. Thats whats happening you paranoid fuck.

Speak for yourself coward. You are what you do and all you is degrade.

who's the coward now schlomo

fuck man who let reddit in today

probably because his was a DK1

the future is here!

You guys do realize this man is a huge feminist and whines about sexism in games and is pro-censorship right?

You definitely should have made a webm

When did he do that?

In that horror rollercoaster game recap he did. Not sure of the name. I'll try to find it, if you want.

Who isnt for you faggots. If you want a webm make it yourself.

Dude I normally am against the "muh webm" sentiment here, because retards request it for every video, even video game music vids, and hate youtube period.

However, there are certain cases where it'd be better to not give them views.

yeah carnevil, its a small bit he starts calling out the big breasted vamp for being "sexist"

although I get it Ross is pretty big normalfag

No he didn't, he just said he personally didn't like shooting hot women.

Sorry user, its just that there is way too much of that shit around here. Also i really dont even care anymore, maybe if it was some actual feminism video or something but its juts him talking VR.

You're such a fucking tool it hurts. I mean look at that complete 180 you just did, from spouting flat out lies because you SUSPECTED something to "okay, I stand corrected"

I'm not trying to ride your ass bro, embeds are easier to get to and spending time compressing a video in ffmpeg just to please autists instead of just getting the link is annoying. I get it. I'm just giving you a heads up.

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This is bait. Ross said he doesn't like violence against women in games so avoids it personally.

Here we go.

I just rewatched it and it isnt as bad as I remember
he's still being a pansy about it, even though I like him.

When is he gonna do Freeman's Mind Season 2?

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WAIT? HE VOICED THAT?!

Yeah. He made Civil Protection, too.

He made it. Nearly all of it.

I played that shit on a DK1 and had zero motion sickness, but most people that tried it had a hard time at first (for what I heard). I don't think any game can get more motion sickness inducing that that. The benefit on depth perception really shines on that.
I wanna try video related on the vive eventually. Having a virtual range is pretty fucking appealing to me.

I just want my VR waifu date sim. Is that so much to ask?

Adjustable Stereoscopic 3D is miles better than Anaglyphic or whatever he had in the early 2000's. Nostalgia goggles?

Watched vid, he talks about a lot of problems with 3D. I've seen those problems listed on nvidia's 3dvision compatibility sheets. These are issues they make some effort to address in driver releases, but I haven't really kept up to date on it since I don't have it. The 3D this guy loves is 3D that pops out of the screen, in many instances this can look wrong or fucked up so most 3D chooses instead to fall back into the display. Things are impressive when they pop out, but it's apparently difficult to consistently do that without fucking up a lot. Pop out could also be a human limitation, in that it doesn't look right for all people. I think adjustability should address that, but I have not tried nor seen the modern state of nvidia's 3dvision & it doesn't sound like he has either.

is this the arcane sanctuary?

Yes -that is correct.

thats just evil

Most systems release with a decent lineup of games, this should have been no different.

Do you think he knows about virtual desktop? It's this VR app which seems to do nearly everything he asks for, and holds support for 3d display. Like, literally pretty much what he wants, save for some issues that have yet to be wrinkled out.

He's truly a god among men. If I can finally catch one of his videochats with fans I'm going to ask him what metal bands he listens to.

he basically just said he didn't like violence against women
but he kind of invalidates any claims of being an SJW almost immediately after when he says some shtick about how he feels the need to protect the weaker sex
in the same video he says he doesn't like killing the giant baby boss and prefers the teddy bear substitute because morals
I think its pretty damn silly that he can't just disregard his personal views when dealing with fiction like this, but I wouldn't call him an SJW

I don't think it's that he's saying they shouldn't do it, but more that he doesn't personally like it.

He lives in Poland. Pansy capital of the world, what did you expect?

Yes, because it is an incredibly expensive gadget on top of an already expensive rig. If you're not retarded and understand just a bit about business and economy, you will understand why there are no games.
Also, this isn't a "system", it's a peripheral.