I've been fascinated with games that actually try to portray racism in a more morally grey light. I'll use an example.
Back in the 90s there was this game by Chris Roberts (now infamous for Star Citizen) called Wing Commander 3. It had famous actors for it's FMVs like Mark Hamill, Malcolm McDowell and John Rhys Davis.
The plot is mostly similar to the previous games. The characters are fighting a war with this race of space aliens called the Kilrathi. Which are essentially really big anthropomorphic tigers.
When the game starts the main character is being reassigned to a ship called the TCS Victory and he finds out one of his old war buddies is on the ship. Who was a Kilrathi who defected named "Hobbes". However nobody trusts him to pilot because "no one will fly with a Kilrathi on his wing". The main character asks for him to be restored to the flight roster. This angers someone else on the ship, a female pilot named "Cobra" who hates Hobbes and thinks he'll betray them.
Turns out around 3/4ths through the game, the humans come up with a way to destroy the Kilrathi home planet and basically end the species. And Hobbes murders Cobra and steals her space fighter and flies back to warn them about it. And in a cutscene (that was cut from the final release but can be found on youtube) he reveals that he was actually a sleeper agent the whole time, and was activated by a phrase one of the antagonists says over a broadcast. And that a member of his race would never willingly turn his kind.
This was a really unique plot element to me. It's very rare that being racist was actually the correct viewpoint. Especially in today's climate.
that was less morally grey and more the writers being retarded. the ghouls killing everyone in the tower is never portrayed as a bad thing.
Nolan Perez
Morrowind
Joseph Campbell
Skyrim
Michael Murphy
Victoria 2.
There is literally no reason to play nice with non-whites, other than the Japanese (who are basically white as far as gameplay mechanics are concerned). And every reason to annex every non-white country you can get away with, use their people as cannon fodder against your white rivals, use their RGOs to fuel your industry, force them to buy your goods and only your goods, collect dat tax money, settle their lands with your own people, etc.
Alexander Reed
Man I enjoyed that game.
Camden Gutierrez
Back to your forum goons, nobody's falling for your D&C tactics.
Lincoln Lee
Its funny you never see posts like these in /tg/ and Holla Forums shitposting threads like "lmao my capeshit" and "elf slave wat do xD" being posted all the time.
Isaac Adams
Definitely Skyrim
William Jackson
Halo
Eli Cook
Basically any 4x and grand strat game.
Colton Garcia
What was it?
Aiden Allen
It was just some idiot posting >>>Holla Forums for like five pages
Landon Cox
Are there any /tg/ games that do this? I swear I remember something like that happening in one.
I'm glad this baiting is getting deleted.
Zachary Diaz
Glad he got banned, this is Holla Forums, not Holla Forums.
Oliver Thompson
Having right-wing views or talking about right-wing things if has to do with video games or having it relate to games means you're from Holla Forums didn't you know.
Asher Morales
Dwarf Fortress.
Fuck elves.
Hunter Walker
OP actually made a good post though. Shit like: With a Nazi or Trump image are low effort and seem like fucking false flags.
OP knows his shit though.
Camden Collins
I know and I agree you with you, it was bottom-barrel sarcasm.
Ethan Moore
racism has its basis in actual truth, probably the first two witcher games then? Knife ears are disgusting terrorists or degenerates in them and have no redeeming qualities like the average muslim
Brayden Long
"Hey guys what dragon dildo do you use while you play video games" isn't suddenly something that belongs on Holla Forums just because you shoehorned some tertiary link to video games to mask your off topic raiding.
Blake Morris
I'm talking about the amount of fags that say go back to Holla Forums whether it's what said or what OP said.
Evan Cruz
MMOs are a lot less of a pain in the ass to play if you become a racists prick and just flat out refuse to party with the scrub race. it's usually elves or whatever that game's flavor of midget is.
Elijah Ramirez
lets just have a nice thread, ignore the haters
Oliver Bell
I'm talking about the amount of fags that start talking about politics or the current election and other bullshit that isn't video games.
Landon Davis
Too many of those fags these days.
Nathaniel Morales
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Parker Martinez
Either way this thread is derailed and no one learns anything.
Yes its infamous for its shittiness.
Jonathan Allen
It's an alpha you double nigger. It's not even halfway finished.
Matthew Lewis
And it never will be. Enjoy your jpegs.
Nathaniel Long
This. Fuck elves. More so than goblins and clowns
Elijah Thompson
If its been cut from the game is not really in the game user
Jacob Nguyen
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Isaac Lopez
Im not comfortable with the banning, just tell him to fuck off to Holla Forums. Im tired of those faggots but i dont like the banning for because of certain views.
Jordan Gray
The fag wasn't Holla Forums he was telling OP to go to Holla Forums.
Henry Edwards
The problem is that's what causes derails. For everyone who says "go back to Holla Forums" or Holla Forums or whatever, someone else will jump in to defend them.
Levi Barnes
They never promised the spaceship, just the metaphysical concept of one. You see, the true 10,000,000,000 spaceship is the one in your heart
Landon Rivera
God bless you user
David Foster
it was a nigger that hated the catpilot, so i was ok to join the catpilot
Nathan Hughes
We'll see that in about a year, niggers.
Angel Thompson
Did you back the kickstarter, user? Sounds like you did
Grayson Collins
Well fuck, even if I pulled and fought against the invading humans I wouldn't want to fucking oblierate earth.
Holy shit, an actual Scammed Citizen on 8ch Holla Forums of all places
Tyler Gomez
Wont happen, Roberts keeps adding random shit every other month. The game is gonna be released like 5 years from now.
Jace Price
Reason? in Holla Forums's Holla Forums of all places?
Mason Hill
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Austin Foster
Where exactly was Fallout 2 morally grey?
I know Fallout 1 actually had its morally grey choice cut out of it because they wanted a more black and white ending for Junktown.
Aiden Smith
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Connor Parker
okay fam
Daniel Hill
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Brayden Howard
I don't spam the reddit accusation bullshit like a lot of anons do but you sound just like a redditor.
Dominic Diaz
hue
Jack Cooper
i wouldnt call it blackmail
Michael Adams
New Reno maybe? Leaving a mob family in charge means the city thrives, killing them all leaves the city in ruins.
Andrew Gonzalez
I sank, I think, $30 into Star Citizen. I'm too lazy to get it back and kind of like having some skin in this train wreck.
Asher Stewart
I know.
'persuation', then.
Caleb Cox
You misunderstand me, I asked because I don't remember that F2 very well.
How the fuck is joining raiders and slavers suppose to be morally grey? Isn't it portrayed as the evil rout?
Joshua Williams
You use the ships you bought as reaction pictures?
Joshua Ortiz
I would agree except the scene was apparently restored in the PS1 port of Wing Commander 3.
Additionally even without that scene it hammers in "the racist was right" even more because then he wasn't programmed to betray you, he just did it out of his own free will.
Oliver Nelson
Wait how does the PS1 version work then. Because a main character betrayal seems like a huge plot point to just throw away.
Adrian Hernandez
The deleted scene seems to just be covering the fact that the Lionman was brainwashed, not that he betrayed you.
William Evans
He won't get any other use out of them
Jayden Williams
The thing with Wing Commander 3 is it portrays destroying the Kilrathi as literally the only option that won't end the human race.
Wing Commander 3 is actually a unique game because the game has an extended failure state where if you repeatedly fail missions, you get sent on different missions where you have to defend more than you have to attack. Eventually the storyline actually changes, Hobbes doesn't betray you. And the storyline turns from "lets destroy the Kilrathi" to "let's pull out of this sector of space and head back to Earth". Eventually you're literally put into a battle where you have to defend the Earth at the end and if you eject during the fight, you're treated to a final cutscene where you can choose how you're executed. And this was all done via FMV.
Adam Phillips
Apparently the scene was always intended to be shown but due to a bug it doesn't show in the PC release.
Daniel Perez
Dragon Age 2. Fuck the Qunari.
Ian Scott
This.
A lot of people when the game originally came out actually thought that he betrayed you because you were destroying his species.
Parker Morales
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Blake Foster
You're an idiot.
Robert Foster
Fallout 2: There were more choices, but it was years since I played the game the last time.
Grayson Ortiz
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Jeremiah Rogers
when was that implied?
Benjamin Bailey
You're a fag.
Nathan Cooper
You use butthurt as a form of reply?
Lincoln Cruz
So do you destroy their planet when you win?
Bentley Evans
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Nathan Morgan
I think you might enjoy the Starfire series of books that David Weber and Steve White wrote. It's basically Wing Commander except the cats and humans team up to stop a insectiod hivemind from conquering and eating every planet. The humans even preform an exterminates on a bug planet.
Landon Lewis
After Hobbes leaves you do a bunch of missions where you decide to assault the planet with your crewmembers and at the very end you have to fight both Hobbes and the leader of the Kilrathi race. Once that's done you finally destroy the planet.
Interestingly enough the subsequent game, Wing Commander 4. Actually deals with the aftermath of this. More specifically civil war breaking out due to the aftermath of the war.
It's one of those video game series where every single game was better than the previous one. I could've written an entire thread on just the 4th game specifically.
Chase Phillips
Because of course you have such excellent, refined tastes, you let other people decide for you which games are shit and never try anything questionable to form your own opinions. What would be the point? Better to not try any games at all and just read a trusty source like Kotaku to find out the quality of games, and heck, why bother actually playing games at all when you can just watch people play them on youtube, right?
Eet a dick you colossal fucking moron.
Noah Thompson
the projection is off the charts.
Aiden Cox
good meme
William Morgan
Read the books first. Especially the short story which was situated in Dol Blathanna. When your only choice becomes to die from hunger or to act like "disgusting terrorists" then you can badmouth Witcher's elves.
Jordan Taylor
hey, don't blame me that your responses are so predictably retarded and overwritten to the point where they're practically formed by a template.
Sebastian Perry
Nigger, DA2 was an objectively bad game.
Did you enjoy SWTOR and ME3 as well, Biocuck faggot? Does it trigger you that I'm calling a tasteless faggot and insulting your games? This place not like reddit like you were hoping? This projection enoguh for you nigger?
Aaron Walker
Yes, it was.
Are you enjoying your misdirected tirade?
Easton Martinez
And think about the circumstances of Geralt's death in the books. He didn't maintain his "neutrality" during a race motivated purge. Do you think he would risk his life to protect "degenerates without redeeming qualities" from being slaughtered?
Mason Smith
You misunderstand. The guy who got banned was a Holla Forums cuck spamming "back to Holla Forums" type shit because he got triggered by the subject
Bentley Richardson
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Cameron Powell
Thats kind of bad. Its vols taking sides. And people should say back to Holla Forums, those fags stick their noses in everywhere.
Alexander Green
Are you this fucking retarded. The spammer was a leftist, telling OP and everyone here to go to Holla Forums because this topic triggered him.
Adam Smith
I called you an idiot for acting like simply playing a bad game was somehow bad. Then you erroneously assumed I liked DA2 because you have the reading comprehension of a kindergartener.
Parker Jenkins
No, people shouldn't say back to Holla Forums, because everything politics related here is also related to games. One bad thing about Holla Forums is, you guys sure are a bunch of whiny faggots who take the leftist side every chance you get - even though Holla Forums was always on your side.
Josiah Walker
Are you sure it's Holla Forums doing the nose sticking?
Andrew Mitchell
Most of the total war games.
Lucas Clark
FOR THE BROTHERHOOD
WE ARE GOING TO CLEAN THIS WASTELAND OF EVERY UNPURE BLOOD
(Yes they are called unpure in-game)
Hudson Robinson
Its like you hate fun
Asher Williams
What counts as unpure in Fallout Tactics? Since I remember you could recruit ghouls and super mutants into your party.
Nathan Baker
This leftist faggotry really exists.
John Watson
You're only proving that the Witcher was always pozzed. Geralt always takes elfnigger and dwarf side before humans, his own race. He's a total race traitor.
Jayden Morris
Ghouls, death-claws, and tribes that don't give their young ones to serve in the brotherhood for protection.
Deathclaws, Mutants and Ghouls can be recruited, but they're mostly used for canon fodder, it is obvious that they're pretty much just used for the manpower.
There's a particular quest in which you rescue a town from a "far right anti ghoul human supremacist" group and rescue the mayor, but in the end it turns out that the mayor is just a puppet so the brotherhood can benefit from that town not really giving a shit about ghouls.
Daniel Davis
He's a mutant and most other humans are afraid of him or hate him, so he hangs out with other weirdos and rejects like non-humans and magic users
Xavier Green
You don't arm your most dangerous contenders for the top of the food chain with power armor and teach them tactics. That is just foolish. From a RP standpoint anyway. Super Mutants are balls nasty in FO Tactics.
Elijah Ramirez
Super Mutants are dumb as fuck though. They also respect power and by nature like to be told what to do. So having them mutiny isn't that likely.
Josiah Watson
Just trying to wake you losers up from your time wasting hobby before it's too late :^]
Caleb Rivera
It turns out that the Mutants were taught tactics from an elder brotherhood member who went nuts and joined their side. That's why they're so dangerous.
So it goes to show the MIGHT OF THE PUREBLOODS
William Rogers
Back when Chris Roberts was able to actually make games and attract Hollywood talent.
The way Hobbes even explained it too. Man that's good shit.
Jeremiah Phillips
Super Mutants made from Wastelanders are dumb as fuck. Super Mutants made using pure-blooded humans are superior to humanity in every single way except for their sterility.
Adrian Peterson
All of them.
Tyler Morris
They take orders well and are sterile, most them will be gone soon anyway unless bethesda is writing
Hudson Reyes
I know but honestly it's kind of pozzed, the whole story. It doesn't make sense that ALL humans would hate him or fear him just because he's a mutant, he's saved so many damn villages from monsters he would in the real world have been considered a hero despite being a mutant.
Especially considering that in Witcher the elves are a euphemism for negroes (they're literally going WE WUZ KANGZ all the time, 24/7) and the dwarves for jews (they own all the banks in the story, yet simultaneously whine about oppression while counting their shekels), Geralt is the depiction of a race traitor white.
Angel Stewart
Right. Well I guess you wouldn't want to hire any of the pure-blooded Super Mutants then.
Nolan Fisher
That sounds like Mutie talk, brother.
Dominic Lee
It only takes a few smart ones to rally the dumb ones.Why risk it?
My brother of steel
They may not breed but they can still kill and enslave you all. If I remember my lore correctly they are some long lived fucks anyway.
Brayden Reyes
Well everyone is a slav so if you want to get technical none of them are white
Adrian Ortiz
didnt they do that in the last wing commander game?
Wyatt Johnson
It's true, though. A Vaulter-made Supermutie is stronger, faster, more durable, longer-lived, can eat almost anything without ill effects, and is immune to radiation.
Literally the only advantages a human has over them is the fact that most armor is made for itty bitty humans and that they can't reproduce without concentrated FEV.
Bentley Martinez
Not really.
Jackson Young
IF I HEAR ANY MORE FANCY TALK ABOUT MUTIES I'M GOING TO STICK MY BOOT DOWN YOUR THROAT, NOW GIVE ME A 100, SOLDIER
Juan Johnson
But Super Mutants are also ugly as fuck. So if you were a kawaii~ gril who got turned into one you'd probably not be too happy until you realized being bearmode /fit/ is great
Dylan Wright
Sorry, I don't do freeform roleplaying.
Easton Nguyen
Just feelin' in the shitposting mood.
Jaxson Martinez
Aren't Skelligers Celts/Nordics? And joking aside, Slavs are white, they're just from different tribes than us westerners.
Noah Fisher
geralt is not human and everyone hates him, except his friends.
I always have a mixed team, even the qt deathclaw in late game, those claws do shit damage against robotscan you even have a robot in your team? i cant remember
William Green
Nope, Robots are the last enemies in the game, so by the time you defeat them and probably let them join, game's over.
I too mix my team a bit, mainly out of convenience
Cameron Anderson
But he is human. You don't stop being human if you mutate. You just become a human with a mutation. It's an excuse he keeps repeating because he likes to pretend he's nonhuman, but Witchers really are still humans, just with superpowers and less emotion.
Cameron Sullivan
Slavs and Euros are quite different from the standpoint of phenotypes, despite both being visibly white.
Brandon Carter
Literally any Civilization game
Carson Richardson
Says who? BoS were killing anything that aren't human, including ghouls, and they were the hero of the story.
Andrew Brown
Yes, I know. And? Just proves there are several different white races. We're still more related to each other than to non European races.
William Wood
There is one robot you can have in your army and vault boy who the jury is out on
Jackson Collins
Just pointing it out. Plenty of people seem to think Slavs and Euros are the same, when they're physically and culturally pretty different.
Leo Price
he doesnt even have human emotions, i cant remember, but they changed shit in his brain to stop him from doing human stuff, to keep him under control.
Cameron Johnson
They changed not only his genes, but his memes as well?
Justin Cruz
EverQuest.
The evil races literally worship Cthulhu or the god of hate. Fuck nigger elves.
Zachary Hernandez
Inoruuk did nothing wrong.
Daniel Rodriguez
No. Witchers do still have human emotions, but they are dulled and less potent. For example Geralt is capable of feeling love for Yennifer. He also gets angry sometimes.
The effect of the trials was that the emotions are easier to control, he's able to keep his calm in frightening situations etc.
Carson Johnson
its about keeping him under control so he doesnt plot to take over the kingdom or something like that, cant remember.
Jacob Powell
Lotta good that did
William Wilson
The Elves can hardly be compared to blacks. They were kangz, they had great and beautiful empires before the humans showed up. It's made clear that the main reason why humans are taking over the planet is because they breed so much faster than any other race. That's not a problem blacks have faced.
Jaxon Russell
Elves are more like the ancient Chinese. More advanced and powerful for a long time but fell to indolence and refusal to change leading to being outdone by those they considered lessers. They even have the arrogant refusal to see that they are mostly responsible for their own undoing.
Ian Richardson
Witcher 3 Besides he has a rational reason to hate non-humans and mages. All the elves in the game are edgy, self-righteous, thieves or all of the above. Radovid's father was murdered by a sorceress who then ruled the country until Radovid's accession.
Landon Rogers
Letho didn't want any recognition or fame for what he did though, he just did it because Nilfgaard was threatening to destroy his witcher school. As witchers are apolitical, he couldn't give less of a shit who ruled the north or that his actions would help Nilfgaard invade, he only cares about the safety of his brothers and killing monsters
Seeing as how the Wolf school got fucked real bad by both a pogrom and salamandra stealing their mutagens, its also likely that Letho is preserving the witcher's ability to create more witchers, as the wolf school Geralt comes from has no way of doing it anymore, the snake school might very well be the only one left that can
Ryder Wilson
Are you just so stupid that cognitive dissonance doesn't happen to you?
Henry Bailey
Most games with races tend to be racist as fuck, to be honest.
Zachary Howard
In fact most works of fantasy fiction in general.
Jeremiah Diaz
I backed the game too but you're being an even bigger faggot than me, holy shit.
Leo Price
Fuckin' Kraut bastards get what's comin' to 'em.
Michael Price
But of course.
Luis Wright
Says the bigass karma hit you take from killing any of the ghouls after they just dindu'd all over the tower, you fucking twit. The game tries to present the ghouls as in the right.
Camden Barnes
Disgusting and weak.
William Richardson
Or they're just fucking Elves.
Caleb Hughes
They're clearly a reference to whining nonwhite races. Next you're going to tell me that the dwarves aren't a reference to the Jews, despite their monopoly on banking and whiny attitude.
Angel Morales
Where're they bankers? I usually think "hardworking craftsman basement dwellers" on account of D&D.
Jonathan White
In the Witcher? We are talking about the Witcher lore specifically, not just any elves or any dwarves. Not all dwarves in the Witcher are bankers, but all bankers are dwarves. So despite having some of the most powerful positions in society they constantly whine - same as the Jews, despite having a monopoly on most powerful careers they still find something to whine about.
I find dwarves likeable in most other fantasy stories though.
Carter Foster
Aw fuck, I remember playing it on my 3DO. Didn't beat the last mission, though.
James Clark
Whoops, my bad. Half of what was said for elves can apply to loads of other interpretations of them so I got mixed up. I also confused this tab for /tg/ for a second. I am not a clever man.
Lincoln Jackson
You can't be racist to those who you are at war with. There's mutual hate because they're at war with eachother, so why call it immoral?
Juan Campbell
It was pretty clear they where painting killing all these "rich out of touch white people" as the neutral option.
Justin Reed
In civ3 foreign citizens in your cities will start shit when you go to war with their country. They'll also work at half rate if you recruit them as worker units (regardless of whether you're at war). Because of that it's usually better to raze enemy cities unless they're strategically important, starve captured cities down to size etc.
Grayson Moore
Why did you attach a picture of a brick wall?
Jaxson Johnson
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Parker Rodriguez
Ghouls are white people too, and from other races as well. They're not a different race, their face is just melted. So it's not racism, and Bethesda writers are fucking retarded for trying to make it seem like it's mean to ban ghouls from your establishment, on the account of the fact that ghoul brains are slowly rotting and one day every one of them goes feral.
Also racism is natural and moral. It's the normal state of human mind. Anti-racist people are immoral and misguided people who have been brainwashed by a globalist agenda.
Luke Harris
If anything the slavs are superior.
And the radio guy making a speech about how bad a guy you are for doing it. In hindsight it's a pretty good parallel for real world mass media.
Asher Johnson
The author is Polish. We don't like ethnic cleansing if it involves killing women and children.
David Bell
Because the only smart supermutants are possible to be created from pre-wasteland, non-mutated human stock? IIRC FEV given to anyone else than vault denizens makes them pretty dumb.
Samuel Jones
Explain what is your exact post here.
Connor Turner
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Aaron Young
What does ethnic cleansing of women and children have to do with Witcher or Poland? Yeah I know the Soviets treated you like shit, but to my knowledge they didn't outright genocide you like they did to the Ukrainians and some other groups.
Dominic Wright
both groups are just a bunch of whinny faggots and need more Jesus in their lives
Joshua Moore
I couldn't help myself
Eli Walker
why would racism be immoral? It was perfectly normal a few centuries ago
Luis Hernandez
That pogrom Geralt died in was a frenzied mob killing nonhumans indiscriminately and in quite creative ways. If you want to imagine how it might look, read about peasant uprisings in Middle Ages and their usual practices. Worse than rabid dogs, I say.
Blake Reed
Ooops. Forgot to unsage.
Angel Lopez
No. "Racism" is actually the natural state for a human to be like. It's actually called ethnic nepotism, and it's completely natural. We whites are the only race on this entire planet who has been brainwashed to think it's wrong, but look at any other race, the Arabs, Asians, Negroes, anyone, and every one of them openly prefers their own race above others.
Soviets were dying for them? Jesus man read some history. They practically made polacks into slaves for many decades. It was hell on earth to be ruled by them.
Literally never happened, read history, do your research.
They were labor camps. Besides, every single person put in those camps deserved it. We are talking of radical communist terrorists, rapists, murderers. Good people weren't put in camps.
Cameron Anderson
Thank you for your thoughtful contribution. Now crawl back whence you came. Dare to say that to Poles face to face, please.
I have no problem saying that to the face of Poles. Again, every single person who the Germans put in camps DESERVED IT. Fully. We are talking about the scum of society. Violent criminals and radical communist agitators and terrorists. You do realize vast majority of Poles were treated quite well by the Germans, much better than by the Soviets?
You do realize that a tiny miniscule percentage of them ended up imprisoned in camps, because majority of Poles were not commies or other bad people.
This guy volunteered, how is it the Germans fault if a dumb fuck volunteers for execution so an evil person can be spared?
Sounds like a real good person. Defender of drug addict degenerates, political prisoners (read: radical communist terrorists), journalists (Jewish media propagandists), prisoners (rapists and murderers).
Oy vey, don't you ever dare questioning the Polocaust!
Nice dubs, Pollack
Gabriel Roberts
More bullshit. Vast majority of Poles were subjected to Hunger Plan, for starters. Don't pretend to know more on the subject than my grandparents, who experienced it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan
Caleb Jackson
Enlighten me how he found himself in that place in the first place. It was possible he was aware of his failing health which would make his eventual death slow and not less painful. Christians are not allowed suicide and that was an honorable way out.
Luke Carter
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Chase Smith
["Oy Vey!" in the distance]
Cooper Perry
And that stranger was chosen for execution in an act of "collective responsibility" for successful escapes from the camp. It was supposed to encourage snitching on future escape attempts.
Xavier Gomez
How nice. No, I don't have Jewish relatives. Learn to read. Poles were also subjected to the Hunger Plan.
Nathaniel Johnson
Surely that information is entirely truthful and the kids dindu nuffin ;) We can trust everything the Jews say about the evil Germans. Why would a Jew ever do such a thing, just go and lie about something?
Thats the one thing about Slavs that's a shame, you are more susceptible to Jewish propaganda, even though you are very patriotic otherwise.
I do know more about this subject than you or your grandparents. I've researched it all my life. Were your grandparents by any chance communists, by the way? Or Jewish? Both?
He must have done something for sure, probably defended a commie and was arrested for that. If all these fantastical and absurd horror stories about German camps were true, then why did the German state execute every camp guard who killed a prisoner? There are a few known cases of guards murdering Jew prisoners, and then getting sentenced to death for murder and executed the next day.
Mistreatment of prisoners was strictly punished, and murder was treated as murder, no matter who the victim was.
Mason Adams
Don't pretend to know more on the subject than my grandparents, who experienced it
Carson Myers
That's what the Jews are telling you, but it's just not true.
Mason Diaz
I'd say that's more just Bethesda's retarded design. It's like how you take a karma hit for stealing from Powder Gangers in New Vegas despite just murdering the shit out of them in horrendous ways.
Noah Davis
i will pray for you, faggot
Brandon Watson
My grandparents were gentiles and they survived the WWII. Sorry, but they were more trustworthy (when they were alive) than some edgy teenager from Holla Forums.
Levi Price
Dragon Age series, all of it. In Dragon Age Origins Zevran just flat out betrays you unless you showered him with gifts all day. Also cutting down the Dalish is a great decision. In Dragon Age 2 the giraffe looking elf on your team turns out to practice blood magic and keeps an artifact capable of destroying a couple of cities in her closet. In Inquisition the bald elf fuck steals your artifact in the end of the game and fucks off to give it to ancient elven gods. He might even be one himself. I believe you can't even shank the cunt.
Fuck elves, if you see one just kill it before it fucks up the entire world with retarded magic.
Asher Cooper
ahm… no
Camden Bell
The Jews being rounded up after being warned and refusing to leave Germany is a very different thing that the Jews being rounded up to be systematically genocided.
polite sage for offtopic
Jordan Collins
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Benjamin Green
Huh? Was I mentioning Jews? German Jews, on top of that?
Camden James
Of course it's good. It's the natural state of mind for a human. Going against your nature is bad. Embrace your instincts, your humanity. Do not fight against it, that is what the Jews want you to do.
Not a teenager though, nor is it edgy to acknowledge the truth of what happened instead of the lies and propaganda we have been fed all our lives.
You didn't answer my question. Were your grandparents communists? Or in any way involved in partisan activities? If so, they deserved to be put in a camp for being terrorists.
Brody Brown
Read it again, slowly. The Hunger Plan was forced on ALL occupied population.
Austin Garcia
Not even really close to true. Witcher mutations and meditation helps them keep their emotions under control, them being emotionally dead is an exaggeration the common folk sort of make up because of how cold and calculated most of them come across.
There's multiple instances where Geralt feels emotions, both in the games and in the books.
James Hernandez
yeah i'm sure kids as young as 2 years old did something to deserve being put in a forced labor camp
Jaxon Howard
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Andrew Evans
well, they are the master race after all, why go against them?
David Nelson
And don't forget that Goebbels was tasked with spreading the truth, unlike these two-faced Jews.
It's good because it encourages people to look after their own people over others. Much like you'd sacrifice more for your family than someone else's.
If you're not looking out for your interests and the interests of those genetically similar to you, then nobody else will.
Pathological altruism is a sure path to extinction. if everyone was like that, maybe it could work. But everyone is not like that, not even close. And they're still looking out for their people, at the expense of others.
were they more or less trustworthy than uncle Joseph?
Robert Hall
Than "uncle" Joseph Goebbels? Sure! They weren't paid to lie.
Ian Jones
Am I? And if we'll go that way, is all the official history just fabrication of the victor?
Christian Foster
Who knows? I prefer to stick to issues I have the conviction I don't repeat lies.
Josiah Robinson
He was, certainly.
Hunter Miller
Yes surely it's true just because we are told so without any evidence. Just trust in comissar Bronstein.
It's possible. Throughout history, kids have been trained to be combatants in war. Right now, Arabs are training kids to bomb targets and shoot with AKs. Partisans in WW2 sometimes used child soldiers.
Goebbels is one of the most trustworthy people to have lived in history. You are such a good goy.
Nicholas Martinez
What's next?
None of my granparents' last names were Bronstein nor they were communists.
I forgot if shillary calls herself truthful hillary then it must be true! Just like how it works the other way. Holy fuck, leftycucks really are dense when something goes against their programming.
Jeremiah Gomez
You do realize that propaganda can be truthful? Just showing the truth about bad people who aim to hurt your nation and its citizens is propaganda, yet it's still the truth.
The negative connotation to the word propaganda was created post WW2. Back then it was not a negative word, and merely meant messaging something, conveying a message in short sentences and posters.
What evidence do you have that 20k polish children were imprisoned? I mean, they claim also that 6 million Jews were imprisoned and killed, when all the evidence shows the truth is that that many Jews didn't even exist in the world back then, and that only 110 000 Jews died in total in all the camps combined.
A total of 280 000 prisoners died in all the camps combined. Out of this, vast majority died of typhys and typhoid disease.
These are the official records from the Red Cross organization, which was neutral during the war, and had personnel present at every German camp to count every death and ensure no war crimes are committed.
Josiah Barnes
Just stop spasming on the keyboard and die already.
Brilliant comeback Shlomo. Just ignore the facts and try to change the subject, it always works against the normalfags ;) But oh wait, we're not on Reddit right now!
Jonathan Peterson
Yes, it is. Nobody cares about your Polish martyrs who died to save commies and Jews.
Not even close to 3 million Jews lived in Poland back then. It's funny how all the records show that after 1948 more Jews existed in the world that in records from the 1930's. What about muh six gorillion?
Xavier Richardson
But it is ok when the russian commies did a complete genocide on anything remotely german in Poland ? To the point of where none remained ? Note that mass arrests done by russians were a thing from the very first days of setting foot in poland.
Owen Cruz
I kinda like watching you rage and double post, but after two years it is getting tiring and you should seriously consider ceasing to exist.
Julian Thomas
11% of citizens of Poland before the war were Jews by their declared religion. 11% of 29 mln. Do the math yourself.
Easton Morgan
It was called "expulsion" for a reason.
Dominic King
It's fine to this good goy and his partisan terrorist grandparents.
What? I didn't double post. Learn the meaning of that term retard.
Also maybe you should consider going back to cuckchan if Holla Forums is too triggering for you. Here we openly talk about the truth, even if it's an unpopular truth.
Jeremiah Anderson
10% of population was Jewish? Hitler really did Poland a favor (cost was a couple million Poles tho)
Logan Collins
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Henry Thomas
Not even touching on the 124 000 that died during said expulsion on the russian side. It is deemed that 1 200 000 were moved to the russian side and 1 600 000 were moved to the german side in the first years. The deaths on the russian side cannot even be properly reviewed since few documents from the time are truly revealed.
That said: According to the German Federal Ministry for Expellees, Refugees, and War Victims, 9,575,000 Germans lived in these eastern territories in 193910 (about 15 percent of Germany's population).
Are we going to pretend that german civilians faced no threat of death in those exact regions ?
The very assumption that all 3 million were killed by germans, when the country was being torn apart on two sides from the very start of the war is absurd. You can't even determine how many were killed by russians and how many fleed but you outright believe 11% of the population was genocided.
Jayden Hall
10% of the population jewish? Don't be silly, the entire country would had collapsed due to massive jewery and scams long before it reached a quarter of that.
Justin Thomas
only winners are allowed to write history, user
Kevin Harris
You forgot one thing.
Losers can't be winners. :^)
Lincoln Jenkins
This. It's not possible for that to be true. If 10% of Polands population was Jewish back then, Poland would have collapsed before Germany had time to invade them. Germany did them a favor, freeing them from the Jewry.
Where did I state that all of them died in death camps?
The fate of German civilians was not on Polish hands. Blame Stalin. But I guess if they have stayed, they would regret not fleeing themselves. People wanted revenge. And Germans here from before the war were justly seen as traitors for the most part.
The Polish Census from 1931 showed otherwise: By 1931, Poland had the second largest Jewish population in the world, with one-fifth of all the world's Jews residing within its borders (approx. 3,136,000).
Carter Watson
so hes a mary sue whos misunderstood by the stupid dumb ignorant general peasant population but has a cool circle of friends and is always right and never does anything evil and always fucks all the hot women
amazing writing, truly worthy of the cultural heritage of poland
Luis Perez
Yes that is the ridiculous part. You really should be grateful. Despite being cruel and horrible people, the Germans treated you quite well and purified your nation of Jews and other communist subversives. They were quite patient.
Considering that your country had just been genociding German farmers living in Poland, who were left stuck in areas that you took in WW1, they were quite nice to you. Those Germans in Danzig and other annexed areas were having their farms taken away by the Polish government, being murdered and then the land being given to Polish immigrants.
You could have avoided it all by not doing everything in your power to start a fight with Germany, a much stronger country. Then again your country back then had an absolutely retarded leader who thought the Polish army was greater and would easily win.
Alexander Thompson
Thanks for visiting and spreading your tripe all over our board Holla Forums, we really appreciate it
Nicholas Phillips
My bad. It was even more: According to the Polish national census of 1921, there were 2,845,364 Jews living in the Second Polish Republic; but, by late 1938 that number had grown by over 16% to approximately 3,310,000.
Tyler Torres
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John Barnes
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Jacob Sanchez
that game was pretty funny, playing a racetraitor who fights to keep his own people enslaved by british terrorist scum
Julian Williams
Where did I say death camps ?
7-8 million people killed or moved lad. Not exactly a number one can ignore when trying to paint nazis as ebil genociders.
Luis Brown
I figured you'd reply with (1) but I guess you're too dumb to check IDs. Thanks for confirming youre a crossboarder
Thomas Powell
Races ARE different. Being able to distinguish between them and what to expect is a good thing.
Also, what's your problem with alleged genociding German farmers in Poland (links please, btw)? They were only purifying the nation of hostile elements… (as if forcing someone off his property required killing him in the first place).
Brayden Ramirez
Peasant population is supposed to be stupid, dumb and ignorant in this type of setting. And of course superstitious. They would not stand being peasants otherwise.
Cooper Lopez
Ayyy, or I just forgot to check. You're right, you are a fucking shill.
Look at the picture in and educate yourself
Go to Holla Forums and ask for photographs about the Polish massacre of German farmers, you'll get plenty of evidence.
Hostile elements? Those people were born on those farms, and worked on them all their lives. Then suddenly the land was annexed by Poland, and instead of you know, sending them to Germany or something, Poland just murdered them.
Or you know, could have taught them Polish and slowly converted them to Polish culture? Kind of like Germany did with their Slavs for a long time, accepting them and converting them, instead of killing them?
Samuel Carter
Thanks for the invitation, but I prefer links to sources reachable through Google Scholar.
Liam Martin
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Nathaniel Brooks
I'm not an academician. I don't have any subscriptions going to hop over paywalls.
I don't. Black people are horrible and I've got 25 years of experience backing that up. There's no chance of us being "honorary aryans" we're fucked.
Julian Murphy
My sincere condolences, Jamal. Your lot must be one of the most depressing, being aware of your "kin".
Julian Powell
I don't actually agree that Dragon Age Origins specifically advocated for racism.
Bare in mind Zevran was literally paid to murder the protagonist. And he tells you when you talk to him that the only reason he accepted your offer to tag along is because he failed. And because he failed there's no guarantee that his organization the Crows won't come after him or that they'll accept him back in.
This is proven false towards the end of the game when the Crows attack the player again, only it's one of Zevran's friends who offers to Zevran an opportunity back in. And if you hadn't really talked to Zevran or tried to become friends with him of course he accepts.
This changes of course if you befriend Zevran naturally and he sides with you instead. If anything it promotes racial equality because it shows you can work through your differences with other races and work together.
It was an aspect of the character I liked because he felt consistent. I'd actually think if he just sided with you by default it would've been less interesting.
With the Dalish I thought siding with the Werewolves was the best option because then you have a crew of Werewolves to fight the Archdemon instead of pussy elves.
As for Dragon Age 2 I have no opinion because the writing shit the bed constantly and character motivations were pulled out of nowhere.
Gavin Parker
What the fuck are you talking about? We were talking about foreign Europeans on your own land. Germany didn't mistreat Slavs living IN GERMANY, is what I said. It didn't hurt or kill them, it converted them to German culture and accepted them as Germans, even though they were racially Slavic.
Meanwhile, Poland massacred the Germans living in Poland.
Jesus fuck get your head checked.
Yes but as you can tell, I was speaking of the majority. Vast majority of blacks like other blacks more than any other race, correct? It is the norm for people from every race, to prefer their own race. People like you are a rare exception to the rule of nature and human instinct.
My condolences though, it has to be terrible being a black who is a racial realist.
Ryan Torres
Angry Birds
Jackson Diaz
Morrowind is a great one for this kind of stuff, Icewind Dale too. Hell id even suggest Little Big Adventure Also when it comes to religion they are great
Jackson Morris
Age of Empires 2
Dylan Reed
Disgusting.
Austin Russell
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Zachary Carter
No race operates like this irl. Sure blacks like to talk about solidarity, but at the end of the day they'd gladly turn on each other if it benefits them.
Jackson Carter
It's a sci-fi fantasy game. Lol. It's allowed to make the evil warrior tiger race biologically unwilling to turn on his own kind. It just hammers in the "it's natural to side with your kind" theme that the game has.
Isaiah Baker
Trips of truth. The movie was amazingly red pilled for what it was.
Cameron Rivera
That's probably because that's what actually happened in history. That's just realism.
Again, more bullshit. Czechoslovakia didn't resist and that gave it nothing besides the loss of all dignity it had.
Poland didn't attack Germany, Germany attacked Poland in retaliation for not complying with Germany's ultimatum about the Baltic Corridor.
Charles Hughes
His mother was a magic user and a father a mercenary. He was given to witchers to raise. Where is his obligation of loyalty to people not bound with the same obligation?